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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:53:23 PM EDT
Proactive.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/07/06/butler-county-sheriff-rick-jones-my-deputies-wont-use-narcan/457229001/

"They never carried it," he said. "Nor will they. That's my stance."

The sheriff explained that safety is his concern. When people who overdose are revived, they are often violent and are almost never happy to see the police.
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:55:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Good for him.
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:55:38 PM EDT
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Proactive.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/07/06/butler-county-sheriff-rick-jones-my-deputies-wont-use-narcan/457229001/

"They never carried it," he said. "Nor will they. That's my stance."

The sheriff explained that safety is his concern. When people who overdose are revived, they are often violent and are almost never happy to see the police.
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They are never happy to see the medic either. So definitely, let the guys without guns take care off it.


I don't think cops should give it. But that's a weak excuse.
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:55:45 PM EDT
[#3]
good
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:57:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Good.  Let em die.
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:58:12 PM EDT
[#5]
dont most people revived on narcan get pissed you fucked up their High anyway?
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:58:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Not sure I agree %100 with that. Sometimes kids of junkies will injest or otherwise consume haroine. I think they should carry it. Their duty is to protect and save lifes. Anything that can help them save lives should be utilized.
Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:58:52 PM EDT
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Good.  Let em die.
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Link Posted: 7/6/2017 11:59:05 PM EDT
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This will be intersting.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:00:11 AM EDT
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Not sure I agree %100 with that. Sometimes kids of junkies will injest or otherwise consume haroine. I think they should carry it. Their duty is to protect and save lifes. Anything that can help them save lives should be utilized.
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Your concern is noted.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:00:14 AM EDT
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Not sure I agree %100 with that. Sometimes kids of junkies will injest or otherwise consume haroine. I think they should carry it. Their duty is to protect and save lifes. Anything that can help them save lives should be utilized.
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Yeah. Nope.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:00:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:02:10 AM EDT
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Proactive.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/07/06/butler-county-sheriff-rick-jones-my-deputies-wont-use-narcan/457229001/
"They never carried it," he said. "Nor will they. That's my stance."
The sheriff explained that safety is his concern. When people who overdose are revived, they are often violent and are almost never happy to see the police.
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Yeah, they need to use money for more important things. Literally.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:02:21 AM EDT
[#13]
This will be interesting
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:02:51 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm Rick Jones bitch.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:03:09 AM EDT
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dont most people revived on narcan get pissed you fucked up their High anyway?
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In my experience no.  It did happen but more often than not they would still be pretty fucked up even after the narcan.

We don't give narcan to end the high.  We give it to get the respiratory rate back.  So once we get respirations back to normal levels we call it good and let the ER take care of the rest.

We(EMT) were only allowed to use the nasal spray shit though.  Paramedics could give it IV.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:03:39 AM EDT
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87% of Hamilton will die because of this. Good.

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Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:06:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:06:19 AM EDT
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Cheaper in the long run cleans up the jean pool quicker
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:08:00 AM EDT
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My brother is a junkie, last time I heard he OD'ed, I just wanted to know if he lived.

I hope he goes back to prison soon, or doesn't live through an OD, just so I don't have to worry about him as much. He is not ready to change, so those are the 2 options I live with from him. I don't wish it on him, and wish he would choose to get sober, but that's not the reality.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:16:32 AM EDT
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Self-solving problems are gonna solve themselves.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:17:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:19:48 AM EDT
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87% of Hamilton will die because of this.

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Truth
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:21:18 AM EDT
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Nice...

Well thats my opinion is what I meant.
Sheesh. Damned white devils.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:21:58 AM EDT
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Good.  Let em die.
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I know a EMT who said something like that to his partner when a repeat customer was bucking for ride #4. Doper's family complained to his boss.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:24:30 AM EDT
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dont most people revived on narcan get pissed you fucked up their High anyway?
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If you fuck up the dosage, yes. Most people give too much.


The goal is to get them breathing, not wake them up.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:26:10 AM EDT
[#26]
First do no harm.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:27:39 AM EDT
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My brother is a junkie, last time I heard he OD'ed, I just wanted to know if he lived.

I hope he goes back to prison soon, or doesn't live through an OD, just so I don't have to worry about him as much. He is not ready to change, so those are the 2 options I live with from him. I don't wish it on him, and wish he would choose to get sober, but that's not the reality.
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Sorry, man.  That sucks.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:28:38 AM EDT
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Cheaper in the long run cleans up the jean pool quicker
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Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:29:49 AM EDT
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Darwin you magnificent bastard, I read your book.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:30:03 AM EDT
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Sorry, man.  That sucks.
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Thanks man, deal with it for almost a decade and a half, and you get real jaded.

He's still my brother, and I love him and hope for the best, but you have to be realistic about what a phone call regarding him means.

It's not a good way to live thinking about a loved one, but I pray for prison over death, because his lifestyle, those are the most likely options.

ETA: To bring more GD lightheartedness back:

Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:30:47 AM EDT
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87% of Hamilton will die because of this. Good.

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Better get Bizarro Quinn out there to help them.

Sealab Bizarro "I'm helping"
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:44:55 AM EDT
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Intra-nasally administered narcan needs to be ambu bagged in to really take effect, at least to someone who is really blue. It's not a pulp-fiction wake up when you spray it up their nose.

I personally don't have a problem with cops (who have very minimal medical training) not administering medication. We have EMT's, medics, and nurses for that.

Let them be cops, that job is hard enough.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:49:18 AM EDT
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Not sure I agree %100 with that. Sometimes kids of junkies will injest or otherwise consume haroine. I think they should carry it. Their duty is to protect and save lifes. Anything that can help them save lives should be utilized.
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Is an overdose of Narcan dangerous? What if you give a 70 pound child a dose of Narcan more suitable for a 220 pound adult?

I say leave medical treatment to medical professionals.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:55:15 AM EDT
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If the Paramedics want to give Narcan, that is up to them.

There should be no expectation for Law Enforcement to do so, that is outside their scope.

Plus, ultimately it is the Junkie who created the problem, so ...
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:55:53 AM EDT
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Proactive.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/07/06/butler-county-sheriff-rick-jones-my-deputies-wont-use-narcan/457229001/

"They never carried it," he said. "Nor will they. That's my stance."

The sheriff explained that safety is his concern. When people who overdose are revived, they are often violent and are almost never happy to see the police.
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Good.  Save the taxpayers a lot of money.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 12:58:11 AM EDT
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Is an overdose of Narcan dangerous? What if you give a 70 pound child a dose of Narcan more suitable for a 220 pound adult?

I say leave medical treatment to medical professionals.
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There are documented cases of Narcan administration leading to pulmonary edema. Pulmonary edema can be fatal if untreated.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:01:41 AM EDT
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Allowing the problem to correct itself.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:05:44 AM EDT
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They should carry it for themselves at least. Fentanyl is nasty and if an officer accidentally comes in contact he should inject himself.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:08:35 AM EDT
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I empathize with the families of junkies...but bottom line we should not be spending the money for non-medical professionals to be administering Narcan to junkies. I read somewhere that they have librarians giving narcan to these shitheads in public libraries. We are bleeding tax dollars yet spend them on instead of deserving folks.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:13:35 AM EDT
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My brother is a junkie, last time I heard he OD'ed, I just wanted to know if he lived.

I hope he goes back to prison soon, or doesn't live through an OD, just so I don't have to worry about him as much. He is not ready to change, so those are the 2 options I live with from him. I don't wish it on him, and wish he would choose to get sober, but that's not the reality.
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That's fucked up
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:16:00 AM EDT
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That's fucked up
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My brother is a junkie, last time I heard he OD'ed, I just wanted to know if he lived.

I hope he goes back to prison soon, or doesn't live through an OD, just so I don't have to worry about him as much. He is not ready to change, so those are the 2 options I live with from him. I don't wish it on him, and wish he would choose to get sober, but that's not the reality.
That's fucked up
Yep, I'm aware. Reasons my family texts before calling. Phone calls direct don't mean good things.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:16:41 AM EDT
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Legal obligation and real life are kind of different.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:23:03 AM EDT
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dont most people revived on narcan get pissed you fucked up their High anyway?
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Out of the dozen or so times I've seen (or used) narcan on someone, nobody has ever gotten violent. They're usually so exhausted from being fucking dead that they don't know what to do or where they are.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:23:15 AM EDT
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I'm not even kidding when I say that stories like this are what make America great.

Nowhere else in the developed, 'westernized' world would someone find the balls to do/say this.  Nowhere. 
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:35:07 AM EDT
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Not sure I agree %100 with that. Sometimes kids of junkies will injest or otherwise consume haroine. I think they should carry it. Their duty is to protect and save lifes. Anything that can help them save lives should be utilized.
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no....no it's not.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:36:41 AM EDT
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It's a waste of money as far as I am concerned. The addicts carry their own narcan now.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:37:09 AM EDT
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87% of Hamilton will die because of this. Good.

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We should be so lucky!

Shame my brother's office won't do the same to clean up our county a bit...

Link Posted: 7/7/2017 1:58:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/7/2017 2:17:00 AM EDT
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Yeah. You are suppose to give just enough to keep them breathing but still under. Most people just slam it to piss them off because fuck them.

If the RN at the hospital are cunts to you, Slam it just as you unload them and they will puke and fight in the ER.

Link Posted: 7/7/2017 2:20:32 AM EDT
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Is an overdose of Narcan dangerous? What if you give a 70 pound child a dose of Narcan more suitable for a 220 pound adult?

I say leave medical treatment to medical professionals.
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No affect other than blocking opioid receptors. Have heard of Edema in lungs but most docs I talk to about it say it is a result of low heart rate and B/P being under the affect of the drug overdose.
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