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Quoted: Did you read the thread? People are literally advocating and/or fogging acres. Maybe we should just go back to spraying weeds with diesel fuel. And pouring oil into swamps and ditches. That will kill all the mosquitoes too. Just use some lead based paints. After all, that’s the way great grand daddy did it, right??? View Quote Sounds like something a seller of Diesel fuel would say. |
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Quoted: Make sure you kill as many pollinators and useful creatures as you can. As long as you are comfy. Nothing COC about my opinion of people who do this or use companies that spray yards. My mothers neighbor hood has zero pollinators because a couple of dicks get their yard sprayed. The parish next to ours aerial sprays and doesn't have pollinators or even bugs around outdoor lighting in the rural areas. I'm not a tree hugger. I am a beekeeper. View Quote Do the mosquito repellent sprays (the garlic smelling stuff) affect bees and pollinators? |
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Quoted: I've been very tempted, but we just have too many resident critters that we enjoy seeing like lizards and tree frogs and don't want to mess them up. View Quote Pyrethroid class pesticides (Permethrin, Bifenthrin and other -thrin pesticides) are toxic to cats, fish and amphibians, so not indiscriminately blasting the entire surrounding area, is a good idea. I DO spray around the base of the house and entry points (doorways, windows, eaves etc.) with a mix of Permethrin and Imidacloprod (a neonicotinoid class pesticide), once a month in warm weather (UV degrades these. Indoors, sprayed on the baseboards and in corners, these residuals can remain effective as long as 6-12 months). No issues with crawling bugs inside the house. For flying bugs that occasionally zip in open doors etc. (not mosquitoes. Mosquitoes aren’t really drawn to UV light. People that put zappers outside for mosquitoes, are idiots. They’ll draw, and kill pretty much all flying bugs EXCEPT mosquitoes) I run a combo of these two chem-free UV traps indoors.
The zappers work by zapping insects that bridge the gap between the electrodes in the grid. They don’t need to simultaneously touch the alternating electrodes, just touching one, and narrowing the potential gap for a spark to jump, is enough. The reason why I brought that up, is because to avoid excessive/nuisance sparking, the electrode gaps for the zappers are made a bit bigger. They’ll readily zap housefly-sized bugs or bigger, but many/most won’t zap the no-see-um tiny sized gnats and fruit flies, hence, pairing zappers with the Katchy vacuum/fan-style traps (which don’t work well on even houseflies, much less anything bigger). I also like that particular model of zapper I linked, because it appears to use a charged capacitor to produce one LOUD snap, vs the ZZZZZZTTTTTTT bug fry that many other zappers do (that has a tendency to produce the fried bug smell). The first few times, the snap kind of made me jump. Nowadays, when I hear the snap, I just think, “HAH! Shouldn’t have come inside, m’fer!”. |
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Quoted: No shit. Typical short sided ideas implemented by people who will do whatever makes them comfortable regardless of consequences down the road. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Everyone body be spraying neurotoxins like it’s going out of style. This won’t cause any problems in 50 years… No shit. Typical short sided ideas implemented by people who will do whatever makes them comfortable regardless of consequences down the road. I’m sure some will happily screech about how the clawtshawt is responsible for all the cancer, and totally unrelated to indiscriminate abundance of toxic chemicals everywhere. |
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Quoted: Shitty neighbor has created a jungle/swamp in their back yard. Our back yard (and the next neighbor's) is mostly unusable because of the mosquitoes. I'm guessing there's nothing to be done for this kind of situation? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: .... Because the environmental factors around where skeeters harbor up and hide is way more important than anything else. If you don't have that, it's not going to work. No matter how much you spray. I'm guessing there's nothing to be done for this kind of situation? Now when I go over to check on her, I bring a few anti-mosquito tablets to drop into her derelict swimming pool and koi ponds. |
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Quoted: I've attempted that. I got the powder, and need to get it into their nest as I read they need to come in contact with it for it to work. After this years freeze, when cleaning up dead plants, when I found their holes (I think they belonged to the cicada killers) I dusted them with Carbaryl, and used a stick to force it down in. I'll found out later this summer if it was successful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Except Cicada Killer wasps. I can't kill them with anything. Try Carbaryl, it's what used to be in Sevin before they replaced it with Bifenthrin I've attempted that. I got the powder, and need to get it into their nest as I read they need to come in contact with it for it to work. After this years freeze, when cleaning up dead plants, when I found their holes (I think they belonged to the cicada killers) I dusted them with Carbaryl, and used a stick to force it down in. I'll found out later this summer if it was successful. I can blow the powder into their holes and it is all over by the crying at that point. |
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Quoted: Pyrethroid class pesticides (Permethrin, Bifenthrin and other -thrin pesticides) are toxic to cats, fish and amphibians, so not indiscriminately blasting the entire surrounding area, is a good idea. I DO spray around the base of the house and entry points (doorways, windows, eaves etc.) with a mix of Permethrin and Imidacloprod (a neonicotinoid class pesticide), once a month in warm weather (UV degrades these. Indoors, sprayed on the baseboards and in corners, these residuals can remain effective as long as 6-12 months). No issues with crawling bugs inside the house. For flying bugs that occasionally zip in open doors etc. (not mosquitoes. Mosquitoes aren’t really drawn to UV light. People that put zappers outside for mosquitoes, are idiots. They’ll draw, and kill pretty much all flying bugs EXCEPT mosquitoes) I run a combo of these two chem-free UV traps indoors. www.amazon.com/dp/B09PHP2452 www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6RZP4H The zappers work by zapping insects that bridge the gap between the electrodes in the grid. They don’t need to simultaneously touch the alternating electrodes, just touching one, and narrowing the potential gap for a spark to jump, is enough. The reason why I brought that up, is because to avoid excessive/nuisance sparking, the electrode gaps for the zappers are made a bit bigger. They’ll readily zap housefly-sized bugs or bigger, but many/most won’t zap the no-see-um tiny sized gnats and fruit flies, hence, pairing zappers with the Katchy vacuum/fan-style traps. I also like that particular model of zapper I linked, because it appears to use a charged capacitor to produce one LOUD snap, vs the ZZZZZZTTTTTTT bug fry that many other zappers do (that has a tendency to produce the fried bug smell). The first few times, the snap kind of made me jump. Nowadays, when I hear the snap, I just think, “HAH! Shouldn’t have come inside, m’fer!”. View Quote Those are UV attractors that supposedly kill mosquitos, but you said mosquitos aren't attracted to UV light. Not picking, just asking for clarification. Edit: I don't mind mosquitos nearly as much as I mind the damned kissing bugs that have shown up over the past couple of years. |
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Quoted: Those are UV attractors that supposedly kill mosquitos, but you said mosquitos aren't attracted to UV light. Not picking, just asking for clarification. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pyrethroid class pesticides (Permethrin, Bifenthrin and other -thrin pesticides) are toxic to cats, fish and amphibians, so not indiscriminately blasting the entire surrounding area, is a good idea. I DO spray around the base of the house and entry points (doorways, windows, eaves etc.) with a mix of Permethrin and Imidacloprod (a neonicotinoid class pesticide), once a month in warm weather (UV degrades these. Indoors, sprayed on the baseboards and in corners, these residuals can remain effective as long as 6-12 months). No issues with crawling bugs inside the house. For flying bugs that occasionally zip in open doors etc. (not mosquitoes. Mosquitoes aren’t really drawn to UV light. People that put zappers outside for mosquitoes, are idiots. They’ll draw, and kill pretty much all flying bugs EXCEPT mosquitoes) I run a combo of these two chem-free UV traps indoors. www.amazon.com/dp/B09PHP2452 www.amazon.com/dp/B07B6RZP4H The zappers work by zapping insects that bridge the gap between the electrodes in the grid. They don’t need to simultaneously touch the alternating electrodes, just touching one, and narrowing the potential gap for a spark to jump, is enough. The reason why I brought that up, is because to avoid excessive/nuisance sparking, the electrode gaps for the zappers are made a bit bigger. They’ll readily zap housefly-sized bugs or bigger, but many/most won’t zap the no-see-um tiny sized gnats and fruit flies, hence, pairing zappers with the Katchy vacuum/fan-style traps. I also like that particular model of zapper I linked, because it appears to use a charged capacitor to produce one LOUD snap, vs the ZZZZZZTTTTTTT bug fry that many other zappers do (that has a tendency to produce the fried bug smell). The first few times, the snap kind of made me jump. Nowadays, when I hear the snap, I just think, “HAH! Shouldn’t have come inside, m’fer!”. Those are UV attractors that supposedly kill mosquitos, but you said mosquitos aren't attracted to UV light. Not picking, just asking for clarification. They’re marketed that way, but most don’t work that way. Ask anyone who’s tried putting one of those UV zappers outside. They’ll find all sorts of bugs OTHER than mosquitoes. Lots of moths and other insects that ARE drawn to light sources in general, and specifically UV spectrums. Interview with an entomologist who does research on mosquitoes. Relevant part at ~4:20 What attracts mosquitoes? The answers might surprise you That said, there are some that DO work on mosquitoes, but most of the ones on the market are crap, and as mentioned in the video, aren’t very effective at drawing mosquitoes. What all blood sucking insects (mosquitoes, bed bugs, fleas etc.) are attracted to, are cues of a warm-blooded mammal to feed on; CO2, body heat etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9225645/#:~:text=These%20results%20indicated%20that%20the,light%20sources%20 The netted fan + yeast and sugar water, is simply a cheaper version of the propane mosquito traps (which do work). Those use the propane to produce the CO2 (and heat) that draws the mosquitoes, and usually some kind of suction, to suck them into the trap. |
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Quoted: Are you sure you know what you're talking about? You seem pretty confident with this whole insect thing. View Quote @Macker13 Attached File |
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Quoted: Those who think this is bad for the bees don’t understand how it’s applied. Bees don’t hang out where you should be applying Bifenthrin for mosquito control. Bifenthrin is highly effective and, if applied correctly, doesn’t mess with the pollinators. Don’t let that stand in your way of moral indignation/superiority, however. I built my own fogger for $10 (hand pump sprayer fitted onto a leaf blower), but ultimately bought the backpack fogger as it simply worked better. View Quote in a small enough yard pollinators may still be impacted. I hate the skeeters but I wouldnt take the chance in my yard. |
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Quoted: Make sure you kill as many pollinators and useful creatures as you can. As long as you are comfy. Nothing COC about my opinion of people who do this or use companies that spray yards. My mothers neighbor hood has zero pollinators because a couple of dicks get their yard sprayed. The parish next to ours aerial sprays and doesn't have pollinators or even bugs around outdoor lighting in the rural areas. I'm not a tree hugger. I am a beekeeper. View Quote this is why we don't do it. Some say you can spot treat (someone said so below) but as far as I know there is no way to show pollinators are not being impacted. I live in a farming area and the consensus among the farmers, beekeepers, and agricultural support folks is that killing just some bugs isn't possible without killing pollinators. |
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View Quote I'll be right back for more rodent/bug nightmare fuel.....after I see what comes out of that tap on the left. @Lorax |
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Quoted: Those who think this is bad for the bees don’t understand how it’s applied. Bees don’t hang out where you should be applying Bifenthrin for mosquito control. Bifenthrin is highly effective and, if applied correctly, doesn’t mess with the pollinators. Don’t let that stand in your way of moral indignation/superiority, I built my own fogger for $10 (hand pump sprayer fitted onto a leaf blower), but ultimately bought the backpack fogger as it simply worked better. View Quote The problem is......98% of DIY'ers just don't care and blast everything. And I've seen about the same rate as "Pros" do the same also. It gets fun when a neighbor is listed on the landscape registry and files a complaint. And those who go on that list are just looking for a fight. I know a family member that got a huge fine for spraying for mosquitoes in the wind and it drifted over. Five digits. I warned him about it. Yeah....he was going to show ME how it gets done. Between the fine, and doing it on someone else's property where he wasn't even licensed, he got whacked hard. Some people have to learn the hard way I guess. |
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Quoted: The problem is......98% of DIY'ers just don't care and blast everything. And I've seen about the same rate as "Pros" do the same also. It gets fun when a neighbor is listed on the landscape registry and files a complaint. And those who go on that list are just looking for a fight. I know a family member that got a huge fine for spraying for mosquitoes in the wind and it drifted over. Five digits. I warned him about it. View Quote We're ('cause I fall into this) also incapable of using PPE. The only time I saw my dad don a facemask was working on fiberglass. And he worked with all sorts of s**t in the 70s and 80s that would freak California out. |
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Quoted: @walkinginadangerzone Mine has been perfectly fine. Milwaukee fixed that issue pretty early on and sent replacements is my understanding, but mine hasn't had any issue. I love it. My only complaint is the flat bottom of the container. They should have built in a funnel system such that it doesn't become unusable with 2" in the bottom still. You have to contort your body a certain way to get the bottom 1-2" to spray okay, which if it had a sloped bottom you could effectively use all the liquid, but that's not the case here. Other than that it's honestly great. I've used the crap out of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: @-Obsessed- How has the Milwaukee sprayer worked for you? Really want to get one, but some reviews point to it being leaky. @walkinginadangerzone Mine has been perfectly fine. Milwaukee fixed that issue pretty early on and sent replacements is my understanding, but mine hasn't had any issue. I love it. My only complaint is the flat bottom of the container. They should have built in a funnel system such that it doesn't become unusable with 2" in the bottom still. You have to contort your body a certain way to get the bottom 1-2" to spray okay, which if it had a sloped bottom you could effectively use all the liquid, but that's not the case here. Other than that it's honestly great. I've used the crap out of it. I have one which I haven't used much and I think it started leaking. The flat bottom design is terrible and Milwaukee should be ashamed of themselves for designing the product like that. There is usually a 1/2 gallon left that I can't get out so I take the backpack off and carry it by hand tilting it so the liquid runs towards the pickup. Also the pickup sucks with the built in filter and will clog easily. Besides those 3 things the sprayer is awesome. |
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Man this thread is awesome.
One thing I will say is that the EPA is moving to remove bifenthrin from its regulated pesticide list. We are expecting that to happen within the next year or two |
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Talstar kills the shit out of everything. A beetle literally can't make it across my garage floor without going tits up. And that's months after I spray. Nowadays, I only spray the house when I start seeing spiders inside, a couple times a year max. And I pretty much stopped using it in the yard because the poor lizards were going hungry
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I'm dealing with this now.
There is section of my yard I would like to clear. Wasp nest is somewhere inside the bush, but I can't locate it. I see the little pricks come and go, so can't just cut it down. I'm actually thinking to get a beekeeper suit off Amazon and don't worry about the wasps when clearing the bushes |
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Quoted: Sounds like something a seller of Diesel fuel would say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Did you read the thread? People are literally advocating and/or fogging acres. Maybe we should just go back to spraying weeds with diesel fuel. And pouring oil into swamps and ditches. That will kill all the mosquitoes too. Just use some lead based paints. After all, that’s the way great grand daddy did it, right??? Sounds like something a seller of Diesel fuel would say. Surprisingly, the EPA-approved, yes the US Environmental Protection Agency, labels of many herbicides require mixing with diesel or fuel oil for certain applications, especially with woody brush. |
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Quoted: Trailer sprayer? This is what you need, amigo https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eHeErcRowkM/sddefault.jpg View Quote Is that a Killdeere? |
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If you can't enjoy being outside without killing every bug in the area you need to seek some professional help.
Stop being so soft. |
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Quoted: If you can't enjoy being outside without killing every bug in the area you need to seek some professional help. Stop being so soft. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: It will kill all the things. Sorry about the bees. I'm trying a natural solution this year for the yard (just ordered today) that is "good bug safe" but still kills soft bodied insects (like skeeters, ticks), so we shall see what it do. I'll report back if I remember . I'll still use the nuclear grade stuff in the woods though. Our woods have no flowers, nothing in there I don't want dead. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I hate mosquitoes with a passion, but I want to keep good bugs, like bees and lightning bugs, around and healthy. Does that juice kill off everything? Sorry about the bees. I'm trying a natural solution this year for the yard (just ordered today) that is "good bug safe" but still kills soft bodied insects (like skeeters, ticks), so we shall see what it do. I'll report back if I remember . I'll still use the nuclear grade stuff in the woods though. Our woods have no flowers, nothing in there I don't want dead. How about frogs? We have a ton of tree frogs that I'd like to keep around. I like the sound and they eat lots of bugs. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Trailer sprayer? This is what you need, amigo https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eHeErcRowkM/sddefault.jpg Is that a Killdeere? A Killdeere for bugs and fungus instead of Granby bureaucrats Pulling an Air-O-Fan orchard sprayer. |
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Quoted: Why would you want to kill them? They aren't aggressive to humans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Except Cicada Killer wasps. I can't kill them with anything. Why would you want to kill them? They aren't aggressive to humans. This is GD kind sir. Everything that isnt liked is killed with a vengeance. Nuisance or not. |
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Quoted: Yes. Buy more fuel. But seriously. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/IMG_4518-3220682.jpg I use some candles on my deck and torches. It’s been fine. I have 250 acres and a cattle farm. We put a ton of bird boxes up to control the flys around the house. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did you read the thread? People are literally advocating and/or fogging acres. Maybe we should just go back to spraying weeds with diesel fuel. And pouring oil into swamps and ditches. That will kill all the mosquitoes too. Just use some lead based paints. After all, that’s the way great grand daddy did it, right??? Sounds like something a seller of Diesel fuel would say. Yes. Buy more fuel. But seriously. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/IMG_4518-3220682.jpg I use some candles on my deck and torches. It’s been fine. I have 250 acres and a cattle farm. We put a ton of bird boxes up to control the flys around the house. Ohio? lol. |
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Woke up one morning and my dog was laying on the bed whining, he couldnt move and was in terrible pain. Took him to the vet and they said it was a tickborne illness.
We live in the middle of a forest, no way im not going to do kill everything to keep my kids from getting some lifelong bug. |
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@rat_patrol
I have been mixing up 10 gal and spraying around house and shop and hunting camps and it keeps wasps, spiders and all other bugs away. Any harm in doing this? |
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Quoted: Woke up one morning and my dog was laying on the bed whining, he couldnt move and was in terrible pain. Took him to the vet and they said it was a tickborne illness. We live in the middle of a forest, no way im not going to do kill everything to keep my kids from getting some lifelong bug. View Quote Yeah, so you check for ticks after going in the woods, use pemethrin for clothes and shoes, use other insect repellent on skin, make tick tubes, discourage rodents and all other critters from hanging in the yard. You know, stuff that normal people who 'live in the middle of a forest' do. Not, let's kill everything indiscriminately. |
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Quoted: Yeah, so you check for ticks after going in the woods, use pemethrin for clothes and shoes, use other insect repellent on skin, make tick tubes, discourage rodents and all other critters from hanging in the yard. You know, stuff that normal people who 'live in the middle of a forest' do. Not, let's kill everything indiscriminately. View Quote I do all those things too. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did you read the thread? People are literally advocating and/or fogging acres. Maybe we should just go back to spraying weeds with diesel fuel. And pouring oil into swamps and ditches. That will kill all the mosquitoes too. Just use some lead based paints. After all, that’s the way great grand daddy did it, right??? Sounds like something a seller of Diesel fuel would say. Yes. Buy more fuel. But seriously. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/IMG_4518-3220682.jpg I use some candles on my deck and torches. It’s been fine. I have 250 acres and a cattle farm. We put a ton of bird boxes up to control the flys around the house. Ohio? lol. lol, MS. |
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Any reccomendation to get rid of flies? We have a shitload here at our new property.
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We've gotten fleas started at our house and those bastards will not die. It rains heavy about every 5 days and I think it's washing all my chemical away. I brought home a jug of talstar P from work, sprayed the backyard where the dogs spend some time, heavy rate 1oz/gallon, still picking up fleas back there. Then I was in the front yard, where the dogs simply walk to get in my truck everyday. I was fucking swarmed by goddamned fleas.
I resprayed the front and back yard again with Talstar. Front yard appears clean. One of chihuahuas came in this morning with fleas on his feet after his morning shit in the backyard. He was barking at the fence next door, I think the fleas are coming from the yard next door. The mexican guy who lives there doesn't have dogs or cats, but the house behind him does. I think his yard is infested. I think I'm going to spray part of his yard and make a kill zone. I have a bottle of Archer IGR at work somewhere and can't find it. I think after this next rain, I'll mix up a few oz of Enstar 2 and put it out. It is fucking ridiculous at this point. Put my dogs on Capshield, trying to break the cycle. We've sprayed in the house with over the counter stuff, cleaned, vacuumed and put a couple of lighted flea traps out, we are still picking those bastards up. |
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Every June I hit the fenced in area of the yard with Cutter backyard bug control
and don't have an issue with bugs. I started this years ago when the dog got fleas, that sucked |
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Quoted: I support OP's insect genocide. Wage a war of total extermination against the bug menace. https://mediastudio1.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Untitled-33-4.png View Quote Without "bugs" you wouldn't be here. |
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boomers destroying ecosystems because they don't want bugs when they go outside (where bugs live)
people who do this are retarded scumbags |
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Quoted: boomers destroying ecosystems because they don't want bugs when they go outside (where bugs live) people who do this are retarded scumbags View Quote First, that is a gross exaggeration. Second, when you get covered in ticks and skeeters walking 20' to get from the truck to the house in the middle of a sunny day, the cute little bat houses do jack and shit. No, no standing water around my cabin. No junk collecting water. Lots of bats. GD gets a major case of "my situation is no different than anybody else's situation, therefore my solution is universal in efficacy" syndrome. I spent 15 years doing every natural solution out there. Nothing worked. |
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Quoted: I support OP's insect genocide. Wage a war of total extermination against the bug menace. https://mediastudio1.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Untitled-33-4.png View Quote |
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