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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:01:32 PM EST
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101206/ap_on_re_us/us_explosive_house
Now authorities face the risky task of getting rid of the explosives. The property is so dangerous and volatile that that they have no choice but to burn the home to the ground this week in a highly controlled operation involving dozens of firefighters, scientists and hazardous material and pollution experts.
Authorities went into the home after Jakubec was arrested, but encountered a maze of floor-to-ceiling junk and explosives that included 13 unfinished shrapnel grenades. Just how do you reckon that guy got all that stuff?  
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:03:26 PM EST
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Another one?
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:07:19 PM EST
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>>CA home filled with explosives to be burned down
Is that the same thing as "blowed up"? |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:08:21 PM EST
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101206/ap_on_re_us/us_explosive_house Now authorities face the risky task of getting rid of the explosives. The property is so dangerous and volatile that that they have no choice but to burn the home to the ground this week in a highly controlled operation involving dozens of firefighters, scientists and hazardous material and pollution experts.
Authorities went into the home after Jakubec was arrested, but encountered a maze of floor-to-ceiling junk and explosives that included 13 unfinished shrapnel grenades. Just how do you reckon that guy got all that stuff? Texas gunshow. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:16:29 PM EST
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The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also?
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:25:26 PM EST
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The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also? yeah whats the big deal only a couple people got blown up???? 
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:28:13 PM EST
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The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also? yeah whats the big deal only a couple people got blown up???? Yeah its not like no one has made exposlive retireving robots or anything. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:31:30 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also? yeah whats the big deal only a couple people got blown up???? Yeah its not like no one has made exposlive retireving robots or anything. Robots are great if you want to retrieve an explosive device. The house is filled with clutter, and chemicals are spilled everywhere. The place was discovered after a gardener got injured when he stepped in some spilled explosive powder outside of the house. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:32:03 PM EST
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Few years ago they had some tard in San Fran. making fireworks in his garage. His shit went up one day and took the place out.
Making grenades? What a dip shit. Quoted:
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The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also? yeah whats the big deal only a couple people got blown up???? Yeah its not like no one has made exposlive retireving robots or anything. Yea. So it can go in and get stuck 2 min. later in that rats nest. Then get ruined when they have to burn the house anyway. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:32:41 PM EST
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Weenie Roast!
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:35:08 PM EST
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Innocent until proven guilty.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:37:27 PM EST
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Few years ago they had some tard in San Fran. making fireworks in his garage. His shit went up one day and took the place out. Making grenades? What a dip shit. Quoted:
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The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also? yeah whats the big deal only a couple people got blown up???? Yeah its not like no one has made exposlive retireving robots or anything. Yea. So it can go in and get stuck 2 min. later in that rats nest. Then get ruined when they have to burn the house anyway. The house is a freaking mess, there is shit everywhere and im guessing the perp is bat shit crazy. Burn that fucking place down, its way to dangerous the way it is and no one's life should be risked. Rasanders u watch too many movies! |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:39:00 PM EST
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Few years ago they had some tard in San Fran. making fireworks in his garage. His shit went up one day and took the place out. Making grenades? What a dip shit. Quoted:
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The guy lived in the house for how long and didnt have any issues. Why would it be an isue to take the stuff out. Wouldnt his neighbors houses be compromised in a fire also? yeah whats the big deal only a couple people got blown up???? Yeah its not like no one has made exposlive retireving robots or anything. Yea. So it can go in and get stuck 2 min. later in that rats nest. Then get ruined when they have to burn the house anyway. The house is a freaking mess, there is shit everywhere and im guessing the perp is bat shit crazy. Burn that fucking place down, its way to dangerous the way it is and no one's life should be risked. Rasanders u watch too many movies! Actually the only movies I watch are kids movies (2 kids ages 4 and 1). I did not know about the interior of the house. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:40:26 PM EST
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Innocent until proven guilty. Burn his house down, Holy killdozer |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:41:03 PM EST
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Why not just ask him to go in and remove everything from the house in exchange for a plea deal?
Hell, he knows where everything is. And if he blows hisself up? Saves taxpayers $$$ for a trial. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:45:25 PM EST
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Why not just ask him to go in and remove everything from the house in exchange for a plea deal? Hell, he knows where everything is. And if he blows hisself up? Saves taxpayers $$$ for a trial. If only the government were so pragmatic. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:47:30 PM EST
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It's not even the bomb makers house. He rents it.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 2:54:16 PM EST
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Yeah a lot of explosives in a residential area might not be the best idear
From my country Bang at 1:10 and Big Bang at 2:13 |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:05:35 PM EST
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Yeah a lot of explosives in a residential area might not be the best idear From my country Bang at 1:10 and Big Bang at 2:13 
Whats the story behind this? Were there any deaths? |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:10:06 PM EST
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This is why we can't have nice things.
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:12:41 PM EST
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Yeah a lot of explosives in a residential area might not be the best idear From my country Bang at 1:10 and Big Bang at 2:13 Gramma has TigOlBitties at 1:16.... |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:19:01 PM EST
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Yeah a lot of explosives in a residential area might not be the best idear From my country Bang at 1:10 and Big Bang at 2:13 Gramma has TigOlBitties at 1:16.... * dashes off to YouTube * Indeed she does! |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:39:01 PM EST
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Yeah a lot of explosives in a residential area might not be the best idear From my country Bang at 1:10 and Big Bang at 2:13
Whats the story behind this? Were there any deaths? Enschede Fireworks Disaster 23 people dead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:46:26 PM EST
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You guys, you know how when someone gets arrested with a small fudd gun collection, the media spins it as them having an arsenal of deadly tank piercing ak47 assault rifles, high powered shotguns, Long range sniper rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo?
This dude probably had a few packs of black cats and a couple boxes of sparklers. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:54:04 PM EST
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Ohhhh the SCIENTISTS
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:54:07 PM EST
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Call me strange, but does setting a building full of explosives on fire seem like a bad idea to anyone else?
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Posted: 12/6/2010 3:57:23 PM EST
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Call me strange, but does setting a building full of explosives on fire seem like a bad idea to anyone else? Oh what could possibly go wrong. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 4:00:40 PM EST
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Call me strange, but does setting a building full of explosives on fire seem like a bad idea to anyone else? Oh what could possibly go wrong. Nothing as long as someone records it and puts it on youtube. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 4:03:31 PM EST
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So, does anyone know why this guy had this stuff?
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Posted: 12/6/2010 4:08:43 PM EST
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Must've been preparing a special geocache or something...
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Posted: 12/6/2010 4:24:41 PM EST
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Hmmmm... man is arrested. Evidence is "found" but can't be removed. Man has not been convicted yet. So they burn the house down.
Something does not appear to be constitutionally correct here. Now, do I think this guy is innocent? Nope.... but I do think proper procedure is not being followed here. It goes like this.... 1. Individual is arrested and charged with a crime; this is possible because of probable cause, evidence, crime committed in presence of officer/official. Innocent until proven guilty. 2. Both the State and the Charged individual is prepare for the trial. Evidence is collected, statements are made, etc.... 3. Trial starts, evidence is presented, witnesses and charged individual testify, etc.... Trial ends and the jury decides. 4. If the charged individual is convicted, then the State can "remove" the explosives "safely". If burning it down is required, the State should reimburse the owner of the property (house) and also convicted individual for the lost property not related to the case. But of course in this day and age..... that's not going to happen. Shit like this pisses me off especially since I'm a LEO. I'm for defending the rights of others.... the State is not doing that. |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 4:29:10 PM EST
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Call me strange, but does setting a building full of explosives on fire seem like a bad idea to anyone else? Oh what could possibly go wrong. yeah i bet that guys neighbors are carefully reviewing their homeowners insurance policy |
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Posted: 12/6/2010 4:45:25 PM EST
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Quoted: Hmmmm... man is arrested. Evidence is "found" but can't be removed. Man has not been convicted yet. So they burn the house down. Something does not appear to be constitutionally correct here. Now, do I think this guy is innocent? Nope.... but I do think proper procedure is not being followed here. It goes like this.... 1. Individual is arrested and charged with a crime; this is possible because of probable cause, evidence, crime committed in presence of officer/official. Innocent until proven guilty. 2. Both the State and the Charged individual is prepare for the trial. Evidence is collected, statements are made, etc.... 3. Trial starts, evidence is presented, witnesses and charged individual testify, etc.... Trial ends and the jury decides. 4. If the charged individual is convicted, then the State can "remove" the explosives "safely". If burning it down is required, the State should reimburse the owner of the property (house) and also convicted individual for the lost property not related to the case. But of course in this day and age..... that's not going to happen. Shit like this pisses me off especially since I'm a LEO. I'm for defending the rights of others.... the State is not doing that. much as I believe this guy is guilty of even deeper crimes than bank robbery, this was my first thought too. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:47:41 AM EST
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Yeah a lot of explosives in a residential area might not be the best idear From my country Bang at 1:10 and Big Bang at 2:13
Whats the story behind this? Were there any deaths? Enschede Fireworks Disaster 23 people dead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster Yes this was it. Another video shot by I think the fire brigade shows some of the force of the explosion First explosion at 0:55 the big one hits at 1:30 I |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:50:06 AM EST
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So they're gonna set a hazmat site fire and spread toxic smoke all over town
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:58:48 AM EST
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Quoted: Innocent until proven guilty. vee have vays of dealing vith people like you. what is this concept you vant us to follow? He is guilty since vee say so. No? the Motherland is looking out for you.... Signed Der Fuhrer Barrack Obama Generalleutnant Napolitano Generalleutnant Clinton Generalleutnant Eric H. Holder, Jr. Generalleutnant David Axlerod (vith Mustache) |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 1:00:35 AM EST
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Why not just ask him to go in and remove everything from the house in exchange for a plea deal? Hell, he knows where everything is. And if he blows hisself up? Saves taxpayers $$$ for a trial. THANK YOU for the first intellegent post this thread! 
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:50:35 AM EST
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What I think is funny about this is that in the state of california they've all but banned wood burning fireplaces in residences but somehow setting fire to this particular toxic pile is *not* going to cause any toxic smoke to go beyond the house itself.
Seriously, that's what they've said. -Gator |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:02:31 AM EST
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they're getting ready to set in on fire |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:06:34 AM EST
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Quoted: they're getting ready to set in on fire Live feed? Link? |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:08:00 AM EST
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they're getting ready to set in on fire Live feed? Link? i haven't found one yet |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:17:51 AM EST
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looks like it's going to be between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. pacific time here's the live stream link it'll be broadcast on http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12522732 |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:25:12 AM EST
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Quoted: looks like it's going to be between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. pacific time here's the live stream link it'll be broadcast on http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12522732 Thanks but it says i have to download microsoft silverlite in order to view it...  |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:25:41 AM EST
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:31:17 AM EST
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Tag for the upcoming hilarity. |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:33:36 AM EST
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looks like it's going to be between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. pacific time here's the live stream link it'll be broadcast on http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12522732 Thanks but it says i have to download microsoft silverlite in order to view it...
hmm. i use firefox and it works. |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:36:05 AM EST
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Call me strange, but does setting a building full of explosives on fire seem like a bad idea to anyone else? Oh what could possibly go wrong. Hold my beer, watch this... |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:36:09 AM EST
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The only way this could get better is if they could helicopter in a dead whale's carcass and lay it on the house before they light it.
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:37:14 AM EST
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looks like it's going to be between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m. pacific time here's the live stream link it'll be broadcast on http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12522732 Thanks but it says i have to download microsoft silverlite in order to view it...
hmm. i use firefox and it works. I couldn't get it to work either. Had to change my adblock settings. |
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:38:52 AM EST
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Oh well will wait to hear of any explosions after they set it on fire...
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Posted: 12/9/2010 7:46:21 AM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Hmmmm... man is arrested. Evidence is "found" but can't be removed. Man has not been convicted yet. So they burn the house down. Something does not appear to be constitutionally correct here. Now, do I think this guy is innocent? Nope.... but I do think proper procedure is not being followed here. It goes like this.... 1. Individual is arrested and charged with a crime; this is possible because of probable cause, evidence, crime committed in presence of officer/official. Innocent until proven guilty. 2. Both the State and the Charged individual is prepare for the trial. Evidence is collected, statements are made, etc.... 3. Trial starts, evidence is presented, witnesses and charged individual testify, etc.... Trial ends and the jury decides. 4. If the charged individual is convicted, then the State can "remove" the explosives "safely". If burning it down is required, the State should reimburse the owner of the property (house) and also convicted individual for the lost property not related to the case. But of course in this day and age..... that's not going to happen. Shit like this pisses me off especially since I'm a LEO. I'm for defending the rights of others.... the State is not doing that. much as I believe this guy is guilty of even deeper crimes than bank robbery, this was my first thought too. I agree with you but according to a friend of mine "in the know" as it were, it ain't just grenades and improvised explosives in that house. There is supposedly some bad, bad things in there. Things of a non explosive nature. Some of the info has made it's way to the media, there is "unknown powder" in the home and I read something on another board about an official who went in that house having his arm blister after contacting one of the interior walls of the home. That is why they are making such a huge deal about the controlled burn (evacuating the entire neighborhood, shutting down a major freeway etc). Looks like overreaction to most, but I believe there is a very valid reason for the way they are handling this. I hope they know exactly what they are doing by letting this place burn, if some of what is supposedly in there survives the temperatures of the fire and gets cast about by the wind, it could be very, very bad. It is a conflicting situation for sure and they are not handling it all properly IMO. Have also read the city went out of it's way to get a ruling to declare the house a "public nuisance" thereby denying the owner of the property any compensation for his loss (it is a rental house). Poor guy will probably get stuck with the bill for hazmat cleanup too. Will be interesting to see what comes out in trial. Unique situation for sure and I am conflicted about the need preserve evidence and the right of the BG to a fair trial VS something very, very nasty getting out of that place and spreading. |
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