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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:25:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you please explain what that means ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Vote of Non Confidence in the House of Commons on Monday" It's getting floated around right now and very well may happen. Can you please explain what that means ? parliamentary version of impeachment. castro jr loses a vote of no confidence and he's out as PM. ruling party then elects a new PM |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:25:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read his thread. Seems like he's trying to think but he calls this problem with the truckers an outside context problem. Outside context problem: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OutsideContextProblem "An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop." — Iain M. Banks, Excession The Outside Context Problem is, quite simply, a curveball that no one saw coming; more strictly, it is a curve ball that nobody could possibly have seen coming. I'll bet you most of arf and most everyone to the right of mao in canada and the usa saw the announcement of the vaccine mandates for the truckers and instantly thought something along the lines of "this will not end well and the truckers may go on strike." You have to be in a very thick bubble to have not seen a pushback from the truckers coming. That makes me wonder about the guy who made the twitter posts you linked. Doesn't make what he said wrong, but I find the idea of "nobody could have seen anything like this coming" risible. We saw that back when mandates for helthcare workers were first brought up. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:30:40 AM EDT
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My wife is Canadian and glued to watching the protest all day long. She is rooting for the protesters. Her family lives in Toronto and Ottawa. They have sucked on the Socialist tit for so long they are helpless and angry as they see the corruption of their dreams erupt in their faces. She just asked, "What price are you willing to pay for your freedom?" They are speechless.
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:33:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:36:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The CHAZ protesters must be looking in awe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Many of them eat together in large white tents. They have bonfires at night. They've even installed three working saunas." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/AATwf6k_jpg-2268807.JPG  Chaz protesters couldn't find the coding to weld or pound a nail in straight. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:40:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: let me start by saying truckers and others aren't little people. I get what you are saying but for me dealing with the entire public I marginalize very few. Your first point is true and you second very true. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is a looking glass into the difference between those protestor groups. 1) Is the group of people who don't contribute to society in any meaningful way. They are literally the boat anchor.  Remember Rittenhouse managed to deal with HOW many criminals within one 50ft circle? Where they go, destruction follows. 2) The second group, are the group of people who ACTUALLY make a society run. Truckers, carpenters, plumbers, you name it. Where they go, civilization follows. I know this is impossible for the midwits in Ottawa to comprehend, but your society actually needs its truckers and little people - it can do with less laptop-class .gov jobs and their various activist mascot groups. Shit I forgot to call them "Little People", I don't in any way mean they're less important TBH I really do view this through the lens of Sherman's campaign through the south. He brought the war to the doorsteps of the people who supported it, in the hopes of throwing it into their faces to end it. He took at Atlanta and broke their back in terms of material supply, and political supply too. The whole time he wrote how basically believed he was God's instrument punishing them for the war. I actually view the truckers in Ottawa through the same lens. The city-elite folks who told people "Don't worry, the insurance money will give you a few pennies back after BLM rioters burned down your businesses as we clapped  " are getting a fraction of a taste and they can't handle it.Good. It's literally these city folks, who brought these problems onto the remainder of the nation, and now they're hearing about it. Good. ETA:  I'll probably be Sherman-posting as long as this goes on. 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:53:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chaz protesters couldn't find the coding to weld or pound a nail in straight. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:59:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit I forgot to call them "Little People", I don't in any way mean they're less important TBH I really do view this through the lens of Sherman's campaign through the south. He brought the war to the doorsteps of the people who supported it, in the hopes of throwing it into their faces to end it. He took at Atlanta and broke their back in terms of material supply, and political supply too. The whole time he wrote how basically believed he was God's instrument punishing them for the war. I actually view the truckers in Ottawa through the same lens. The city-elite folks who told people "Don't worry, the insurance money will give you a few pennies back after BLM rioters burned down your businesses as we clapped " are getting a fraction of a taste and they can't handle it.Good. It's literally these city folks, who brought these problems onto the remainder of the nation, and now they're hearing about it. Good. ETA: https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-you-might-as-well-appeal-against-the-thunder-storm-as-against-these-terrible-hardships-william-tecumseh-sherman-126-23-46.jpg I'll probably be Sherman-posting as long as this goes on. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:59:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The CHAZ idiots thought they knew it all and could do anything. The Canadians know what they can do and do it. They do it and maintain the politeness and understand they should benefit all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Chaz protesters couldn't find the coding to weld or pound a nail in straight.  What is, "Arrogant young costal elite, woke lefty college students"? Remember the 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.jeopardy.com/sites/default/files/styles/jbuzz_article_teaser/public/files/image//Assets/jeopardy/images/s34_jbuzz/september/signaling-device/sd_buzzer3_840x473.gif?itok=dzfUpC_D What is, "Arrogant young costal elite, woke lefty college students"? Remember the |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:07:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.jeopardy.com/sites/default/files/styles/jbuzz_article_teaser/public/files/image//Assets/jeopardy/images/s34_jbuzz/september/signaling-device/sd_buzzer3_840x473.gif?itok=dzfUpC_D What is, "Arrogant young costal elite, woke lefty college students"? Remember the I wonder what the lawn on Parliament Hill would look like plowed under and planted in canola? It's very pretty when it flowers. No doubt the boys could get the crop in in an afternoon. 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:15:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:21:11 PM EDT
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Canada has been referred to as "USA's hat".
If the USA doesn't grow some balls, we're gonna be known as "Canada's shorts". |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Canada has been referred to as "USA's hat". If the USA doesn't grow some balls, we're gonna be known as "Canada's shorts". Would that make Mexico Canada's thong? |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would that make Mexico Canada's thong? |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:25:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: America's dong? That's Florida |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:30:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would that make Mexico Canada's thong? Canada's willnot is more like it. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:36:21 PM EDT
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It occurs to me that the reason the leftys are in such a conundrum is that they use the threat of force from a small minority of people to impose their will on the rest of "civil" society. The power hungry people at the top believe they need only snap their fingers and whatever idiotic thing they want will happen and the people will go along with it. The reason this protest is so "dangerous" is that it spectacularly points out that the government only functions with the consent of the governed. That is an anathema to the way totalitarians think.
When the .gov backs down, and they will, it will open the eyes of many both in Canada and around the world that governments can only exist and exert power with the consent of the governed. When that consent is revoked, the government is powerless. That is the threat to globalist, authoritarian control these truckers and others represent. I hope they make their dominance over the .gov up there complete and total. When the .gov is rendered impotent, there is freedom. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:36:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Canada has been referred to as "USA's hat". If the USA doesn't grow some balls, we're gonna be known as "Canada's shorts". https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-801204258687  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:37:56 PM EDT
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In all seriousness, it feels like this situation is about to enter the most critical (and dangerous) phase. If Canada.gov and lil' Castro are truly paralyzed/cornered/panicked, it means them taking some type of real, next-level action is not far off. Things could go one of two ways:
A) Competent heads prevail, they capitulate and begin to de-escalate by (essentially) acknowledging the will of the people and making changes. B) They will move to the violent put-down of what they consider rebellion of the serfs against the rulers and ruling class. Either way, once they believe they're completely cornered and out options, action will come. They seem to be approaching this inflection point quickly. Keep those convoys/people in your thoughts and prayers. They're making this stand for ALL of us. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:41:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It occurs to me that the reason the leftys are in such a conundrum is that they use the threat of force from a small minority of people to impose their will on the rest of "civil" society. The power hungry people at the top believe they need only snap their fingers and whatever idiotic thing they want will happen and the people will go along with it. The reason this protest is so "dangerous" is that it spectacularly points out that the government only functions with the consent of the governed. That is an anathema to the way totalitarians think. When the .gov backs down, and they will, it will open the eyes of many both in Canada and around the world that governments can only exist and exert power with the consent of the governed. When that consent is revoked, the government is powerless. That is the threat to globalist, authoritarian control these truckers and others represent. I hope they make their dominance over the .gov up there complete and total. When the .gov is rendered impotent, there is freedom. An excellent synopsis and to make clear for all here - WE grant them the ability to govern. They can not govern what is ungovernable. 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:44:14 PM EDT
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I think they are trying to decide whether to break this up through subversive means( infiltrate and make the protesters look bad) or overt means( move in the cops and remove the protesters).
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:45:39 PM EDT
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seems like alot of Euro countries are backing down on mandates why hasnt canada and the liberal US states doing the same?
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the truckers really want to troll they can rewrite this and have fun. I can if they want.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvxxdZpMFHgThis would be EPIC!! |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:47:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they are trying to decide whether to break this up through subversive means( infiltrate and make the protesters look bad) or overt means( move in the cops and remove the protesters). They *can't* do it through overt means. That's the impossible problem the Truckers have presented the government with. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:47:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: seems like alot of Euro countries are backing down on mandates why hasnt canada and the liberal US states doing the same? Because they think they can get away with it. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:48:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The CHAZ protesters must be looking in awe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Many of them eat together in large white tents. They have bonfires at night. They've even installed three working saunas." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/AATwf6k_jpg-2268807.JPG Capitalism once again showing up Marxism. 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they are trying to decide whether to break this up through subversive means( infiltrate and make the protesters look bad) or overt means( move in the cops and remove the protesters). No doubt |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: seems like alot of Euro countries are backing down on mandates why hasnt canada and the liberal US states doing the same? The power hungry but cynically aware overlord can see when to fold before things get out of control. The true believer can't. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:48:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In all seriousness, it feels like this situation is about to enter the most critical (and dangerous) phase. If Canada.gov and lil' Castro are truly paralyzed/cornered/panicked, it means them taking some type of real, next-level action is not far off. Things could go one of two ways: A) Competent heads prevail, they capitulate and begin to de-escalate by (essentially) acknowledging the will of the people and making changes. B) They will move to the violent put-down of what they consider rebellion of the serfs against the rulers and ruling class. Either way, once they believe they're completely cornered and out options, action will come. They seem to be approaching this inflection point quickly. Keep those convoys/people in your thoughts and prayers. They're making this stand for ALL of us. The Canadian military has already stated they will lay their arms down and join the protest if they are asked to put down the movement. Many LEO's are in the same camp. The government has essentially become combat ineffective and their options for a way out is to capitulate or get booted out. They will capitulate first, and get booted out shortly thereafter. They screwed the pooch and are done. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:51:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Canadian military has already stated they will lay their arms down and join the protest if they are asked to put down the movement. Many LEO's are in the same camp. The government has essentially become combat ineffective and their options for a way out is to capitulate or get booted out. They will capitulate first, and get booted out shortly thereafter. They screwed the pooch and are done. that is pretty awesome the military is telling the GOV to get fucked in dealing with the truckers |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Canadian military has already stated they will lay their arms down and join the protest if they are asked to put down the movement. Many LEO's are in the same camp. The government has essentially become combat ineffective and their options for a way out is to capitulate or get booted out. They will capitulate first, and get booted out shortly thereafter. They screwed the pooch and are done. Source? I've heard telling .gov that it is a civil matter, have they escalated their refusals? |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:53:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Canadian military has already stated they will lay their arms down and join the protest if they are asked to put down the movement. Many LEO's are in the same camp. The government has essentially become combat ineffective and their options for a way out is to capitulate or get booted out. They will capitulate first, and get booted out shortly thereafter. They screwed the pooch and are done. Not holding my breath. They're cockroaches that can survive being nuked. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Canadian military has already stated they will lay their arms down and join the protest if they are asked to put down the movement. Many LEO's are in the same camp. The government has essentially become combat ineffective and their options for a way out is to capitulate or get booted out. They will capitulate first, and get booted out shortly thereafter. They screwed the pooch and are done. I sincerely hope so, as that is the "right" thing to do on the .mil's part. Either way, it seems the moment of truth is fast approaching. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:00:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They *can't* do it through overt means. That's the impossible problem the Truckers have presented the government with. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Canadian military has already stated they will lay their arms down and join the protest if they are asked to put down the movement. Many LEO's are in the same camp. The government has essentially become combat ineffective and their options for a way out is to capitulate or get booted out. They will capitulate first, and get booted out shortly thereafter. They screwed the pooch and are done. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Source? I've heard telling .gov that it is a civil matter, have they escalated their refusals? Pretty sure I posted that info with a link in this thread about 3 days ago. The story has since been removed from the internet. Can't find it now. Here is some of it... https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-military-tells-ottawa-to-find-someone-else-to-evict-the-truckers |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:02:03 PM EDT
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So does barbaric Russia move first or barbaric Canada?
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure I posted that info with a link in this thread about 3 days ago. The story has since been removed from the internet. Can't find it now. Here is some of it... https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-military-tells-ottawa-to-find-someone-else-to-evict-the-truckers The link is what we already knew. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read his thread. Seems like he's trying to think but he calls this problem with the truckers an outside context problem. Outside context problem: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OutsideContextProblem "An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop." Iain M. Banks, Excession The Outside Context Problem is, quite simply, a curveball that no one saw coming; more strictly, it is a curve ball that nobody could possibly have seen coming. I'll bet you most of arf and most everyone to the right of mao in canada and the usa saw the announcement of the vaccine mandates for the truckers and instantly thought something along the lines of "this will not end well and the truckers may go on strike." You have to be in a very thick bubble to have not seen a pushback from the truckers coming. That makes me wonder about the guy who made the twitter posts you linked. Doesn't make what he said wrong, but I find the idea of "nobody could have seen anything like this coming" risible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: worth reading entire thread:
I read his thread. Seems like he's trying to think but he calls this problem with the truckers an outside context problem. Outside context problem: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OutsideContextProblem "An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop." Iain M. Banks, Excession The Outside Context Problem is, quite simply, a curveball that no one saw coming; more strictly, it is a curve ball that nobody could possibly have seen coming. I'll bet you most of arf and most everyone to the right of mao in canada and the usa saw the announcement of the vaccine mandates for the truckers and instantly thought something along the lines of "this will not end well and the truckers may go on strike." You have to be in a very thick bubble to have not seen a pushback from the truckers coming. That makes me wonder about the guy who made the twitter posts you linked. Doesn't make what he said wrong, but I find the idea of "nobody could have seen anything like this coming" risible. I agree. One thing I like to point out is the right is original, the left is iterative. Trump, the collapse of Kabul, and the trucker convoy are things reasonable people that paid attention could have foreseen, the problem is noticing those sorts of things before they happen is a low-prestige activity for blue tribe SWPLs because it demonstrates lack of faith. It's an interesting thread because it demonstrates blue tribe mindset, and how they're susceptible to out of context problems that really aren't. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:20:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-staycation-tax-credit Bahahahha.... Overview The temporary Ontario Staycation Tax Credit for 2022 aims to encourage Ontario families to explore the province, while helping the tourism and hospitality sectors recover from the financial impacts of the COVID-19covid 19 pandemic. Ontario residents can claim 20% of their eligible 2022 accommodation expenses, for example, for a stay at a hotel, cottage or campground, when filing their personal Income Tax and Benefit Return for 2022. You can claim eligible expenses of up to $1,000 as an individual or $2,000 if you have a spouse, common-law partner or eligible children, to get back up to $200 as an individual or $400 as a family This is bullshit^^^ All those folks who havent worked in the last two years cuz they're laid off arent planning on a vacation... they're broke |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:35:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:51:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is bullshit^^^ All those folks who havent worked in the last two years cuz they're laid off arent planning on a vacation... they're broke Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-staycation-tax-credit Bahahahha.... Overview The temporary Ontario Staycation Tax Credit for 2022 aims to encourage Ontario families to explore the province, while helping the tourism and hospitality sectors recover from the financial impacts of the COVID-19covid 19 pandemic. Ontario residents can claim 20% of their eligible 2022 accommodation expenses, for example, for a stay at a hotel, cottage or campground, when filing their personal Income Tax and Benefit Return for 2022. You can claim eligible expenses of up to $1,000 as an individual or $2,000 if you have a spouse, common-law partner or eligible children, to get back up to $200 as an individual or $400 as a family This is bullshit^^^ All those folks who havent worked in the last two years cuz they're laid off arent planning on a vacation... they're broke Nothing more than feel good, sound great, do nothing BS. "SeE!!! We'RE HeLPinG!" |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freedom Convoy 2022 2m https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/273524912_120364223888353_69946103853210-2269022.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/273500472_120364280555014_24896477154191-2269011.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/273548096_120364250555017_53879535547729-2269013.JPG |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 1:57:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 2:00:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It occurs to me that the reason the leftys are in such a conundrum is that they use the threat of force from a small minority of people to impose their will on the rest of "civil" society. The power hungry people at the top believe they need only snap their fingers and whatever idiotic thing they want will happen and the people will go along with it. The reason this protest is so "dangerous" is that it spectacularly points out that the government only functions with the consent of the governed. That is an anathema to the way totalitarians think. When the .gov backs down, and they will, it will open the eyes of many both in Canada and around the world that governments can only exist and exert power with the consent of the governed. When that consent is revoked, the government is powerless. That is the threat to globalist, authoritarian control these truckers and others represent. I hope they make their dominance over the .gov up there complete and total. When the .gov is rendered impotent, there is freedom. If the left could figure out a sure fire way to get the right optics they would have anyone who stands against them killed. |
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