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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:30:12 PM EDT
Lets have a thread about cars/trucks that failed because they were too far ahead of their time.
I'll start. 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:32:01 PM EDT
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Edsel. Once you got past that "Mercury sucking a lemon" grill, there were a lot of new concepts being tried out.
A company I worked for in the early '60s had one as the company car. Very comfortable and we put a lot of mileage on it with few problems. Ford tried to fill a niche with it that didn't exist. Unfortunately, the company folded about the time the Edsel did. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:33:18 PM EDT
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The Tucker
A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:33:27 PM EDT
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Vehicross
The new Cherokee looks like a copy about 30 years later. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:34:02 PM EDT
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:35:01 PM EDT
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Another vote for Tucker
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:35:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:38:10 PM EDT
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Chevrolet EV1. Battery technology wasn't there yet. Among other things.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:40:54 PM EDT
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The Lincoln also failed due to not offering 4 wheel drive.
GM offered airbags in the 70's and they did not sell well |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:41:32 PM EDT
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Lincoln continued their line of luxury trucks after the Blackwood with the Mark LT. I think the Blackwood failed because of those horrible looking lines on the bed
The Lincoln Mark LT is a luxury pickup truck that was sold by Lincoln. It first went on sale in January 2005 for the 2006 model year. The Mark LT is essentially a rebadged version of the popular Ford F-150 truck with a more luxury-oriented cabin. The Mark LT is a successor to the failed 2002-only Lincoln Blackwood (which was never sold in Canada), Lincoln's only other pickup truck, which was a rear-wheel drive vehicle. The Mark LT was built at Ford's River Rouge Plant in Dearborn, Michigan, and at the Ford Cuautitlan plant in Cuautitlán, Mexico, on the same lines as the closely related Ford F-150. The Mark LT also had optional all-wheel drive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Mark_LT |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:42:34 PM EDT
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AMC Eagle. Now everything is a cross-over.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:44:16 PM EDT
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Chevrolet EV1. Battery technology wasn't there yet. Among other things. https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gm-ev1.jpg That’s NOT a swipe at you. It’s just economics |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:44:35 PM EDT
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The Tucker http://www.tuckerclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tucker-1003.jpg A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:44:58 PM EDT
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AMC Eagle. Now everything is a cross-over. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:47:23 PM EDT
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Take a station wagon, give it a lift kit and a basic AWD system.
15 years before the Subaru Outback "created" the crossover catagory 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:47:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:49:13 PM EDT
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Not ahead of its time but behind. I like the Centaur:
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:51:52 PM EDT
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The Pontiac Aztek.
A minivan looking SUV -- it was ugly as sin. Now a lot of SUVs, crossovers really, look like minivans. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:53:17 PM EDT
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The Tucker http://www.tuckerclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tucker-1003.jpg A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. Many of the Tucker autos are still road worthy, IIRC |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:53:43 PM EDT
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2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. The Cadillac Escalade EXT (Avalance clone) also came out in 2002. The Ford F-150 King Ranch was released in 2001. So, luxury trucks existed at the same time as the Blackwood. The Blackwood may have failed because it was RWD only, available only in black-on-black color configuration, and had a carpeted bed. Perhaps luxury truck people still wanted to use a pickup truck like a pickup and not get the bed filthy when they went to pick up flowers at the nursery, tossed a saddle in the back, or hauled a deer carcass out of the woods. The Blackwood failed because its competitors were better. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:54:45 PM EDT
[#20]
2019 Ford Ranger
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:55:18 PM EDT
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Chevrolet EV1. Battery technology wasn't there yet. Among other things. https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gm-ev1.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:58:22 PM EDT
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Can’t believe nobody said DeLorean yet.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:00:56 PM EDT
[#23]
I liked the Vehicross too....
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:01:58 PM EDT
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Can’t believe nobody said DeLorean yet. besides stainless steel what really did it have to offer? I can't think of anything. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:02:54 PM EDT
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For my addition I would say cars from the 20th century that had their transmission mounted in the rear while the engine was up front.
Only now sports cars are starting to have that as commonplace. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:03:04 PM EDT
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Another vote for Tucker |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:04:54 PM EDT
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it. https://images.autotrader.com/scaler/620/420/cms/content/articles/oversteer/2017/03-mar/03-27/263414.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:05:26 PM EDT
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Can’t believe nobody said DeLorean yet. Styling was heavily euro influenced, so that was nothing new. ...and yet, people still bought those turds. Proof that cocaine compromises judgment 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:07:05 PM EDT
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Take a station wagon, give it a lift kit and a basic AWD system. 15 years before the Subaru Outback "created" the crossover catagory https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/1987_AMC_Eagle_wagon_burgundy-woodgrain_NJ.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:07:10 PM EDT
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 The Homer - The Car Built for Homer |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:07:29 PM EDT
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Bricklin sv1
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:08:10 PM EDT
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I liked the Vehicross too.... 
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:08:41 PM EDT
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The Tucker http://www.tuckerclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tucker-1003.jpg A company so far ahead of its time that the big three colluded to crush the brand. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:08:43 PM EDT
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... Why? besides stainless steel what really did it have to offer? I can't think of anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can’t believe nobody said DeLorean yet. besides stainless steel what really did it have to offer? I can't think of anything.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:10:03 PM EDT
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... Why? besides stainless steel what really did it have to offer? I can't think of anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can’t believe nobody said DeLorean yet. besides stainless steel what really did it have to offer? I can't think of anything. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:10:18 PM EDT
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Like the 2001-2007 Volvo XC70?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/262787/7A28FD4D-D657-49D6-B93F-D6A69761F4C0-638541.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it. https://images.autotrader.com/scaler/620/420/cms/content/articles/oversteer/2017/03-mar/03-27/263414.jpg The same block is still used. And it didn’t have head gasket issues. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:10:47 PM EDT
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Corvair - Basically, a pretty advanced concept (rear engine) for an American car, but the transmission (powerglide/3 spd manual) and drive train were still too far in the past.
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:12:06 PM EDT
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Lets have a thread about cars/trucks that failed because they were too far ahead of their time. I'll start. 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. http://playswithcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/blackwood2.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:12:11 PM EDT
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The Pontiac Aztek. A minivan looking SUV -- it was ugly as sin. Now a lot of SUVs, crossovers really, look like minivans. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:12:21 PM EDT
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Take a station wagon, give it a lift kit and a basic AWD system. 15 years before the Subaru Outback "created" the crossover catagory https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/1987_AMC_Eagle_wagon_burgundy-woodgrain_NJ.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:14:48 PM EDT
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Lets have a thread about cars/trucks that failed because they were too far ahead of their time. I'll start. 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. A luxury truck at a time when pickups were still just work vehicles. A "luxury" truck at the turn of the century meant you got a CD player and power windows. The Lincoln however had a plush leather interior and all the bells and whistles you could want. And it failed, only selling for one year. At a price of $50K (about $70k in today's dollars) it just didn't make sense. Now 16 years later, all of the big three make luxury trims of their trucks with MSRPs that are pushing $70k+. http://playswithcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/blackwood2.jpg I had a 2001 7.3 Diesel that had a whole lot of bells and whistles... Leather was an option, they could be well north of 50K back then. The truck you have posted failed because it is an aborted conglomeration of an old school woody boat, and a low end half ton pickup. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:17:13 PM EDT
[#42]
AMC Eagle
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:17:26 PM EDT
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For my addition I would say cars from the 20th century that had their transmission mounted in the rear while the engine was up front. Only now sports cars are starting to have that as commonplace. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:17:41 PM EDT
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Chevrolet EV1. Battery technology wasn't there yet. Among other things. https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gm-ev1.jpg Tesla's one thing I will grant him is he made vehicles that look normal enough that regular people wouldnt mind being seeing in one. Add in some of the other options and it begins to make sense that the car isnt just for a bunch of Randy Marsh fart sniffing morons. The Volt kinda gets the point as well without being too far over the line for stupid shitty looks. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:17:55 PM EDT
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Corvair - Basically, a pretty advanced concept (rear engine) for an American car, but the transmission (powerglide/3 spd manual) and drive train were still too far in the past. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/920/Unknown-638544.JPG |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:18:45 PM EDT
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Take a station wagon, give it a lift kit and a basic AWD system. 15 years before the Subaru Outback "created" the crossover catagory https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/1987_AMC_Eagle_wagon_burgundy-woodgrain_NJ.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:18:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... Why? besides stainless steel what really did it have to offer? I can't think of anything. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:19:06 PM EDT
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Take a station wagon, give it a lift kit and a basic AWD system. 15 years before the Subaru Outback "created" the crossover catagory https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/1987_AMC_Eagle_wagon_burgundy-woodgrain_NJ.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:19:22 PM EDT
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no one wanted this thing.. now everything is a slightly less ugly version of it. https://images.autotrader.com/scaler/620/420/cms/content/articles/oversteer/2017/03-mar/03-27/263414.jpg |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 4:20:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot to mention Congress, Unions, and several others. Many of the Tucker autos are still road worthy, IIRC Most are still road worthy. And pristine ones are selling for around $3 million. I remember seeing my first Tucker when the Smithsonian went on tour. I got so fascinated by the car. Now the Minneapolis Institute of Art has one on display. Or at least it did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_48 |
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