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Posted: 9/4/2017 5:51:44 PM EST
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My plan for Seoul is that he doesn't hit it if we target his missile facilities only. As far as plans go, it lacks a little... je ne sais quoi. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 5:53:35 PM EST
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Am I the only one who wants NK to keep firing off their bombs? Sooner or later they've got to run out.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 5:57:47 PM EST
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I thought they were impoverished. Where do they get the money to waste launching all these expensive rockets? 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:06:24 PM EST
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I'd love for an actual psychologist to explain what the purpose of Kim's behavior is. I figure that he is either being scripted by handlers...likely the Chinese...and just a puppet whose master has some larger, grandiose plan....or....he truly is nuts. All this test firing dick waving has gotten silly. He knows what he has, and by now knows what his weapons do. Yet...he keeps being conspicuous about things...which makes me think he is completely full of shit. Lots of talk...lots of posturing....lots of bullshit. Am I the only one who thinks that all this being played out in the media is exactly why it's not a real threat? Who fights like this in real life? It's like some stupid B movie. Even more evidence that idiocracy was a documentary. The best analogy for him is what happens with rock stars when they never get told no and have a near unlimited budget. He is like Michael Jackson but instead of rising to fame was born into a religion with a nation state as his followers and instead of building an amusement park and molesting kids he builds nukes and kidnaps Japanese . Consider who the last person to ever tell him "no" might have been and who could try to guide him now. His view of reality just isn't anything near ours and trying to place our precepts into him is pointless. It's not that he is crazy in the way of having a diagnosable illness ,it is that his entire reality is so far removed from ours. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:06:54 PM EST
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Its really happening. Nikki Haley SecState POTUS they'll all say : Time for talk is over I have no more comment regarding NOKO Etc Etc They only understand 1 thing Won't let this happen They need to stop Blah blah Fire and Fury Ain't gonna stop em. Not gonna do anything except talk big talk |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:08:38 PM EST
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Hey Kim -
And we are supposed to be afraid of him? 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:21:58 PM EST
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nobody will do anything about it, so why not just start ignoring him. anything else is giving the desired attention and playing his game.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:24:34 PM EST
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I thought they were impoverished. Where do they get the money to waste launching all these expensive rockets? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:25:21 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:25:37 PM EST
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I thought they were impoverished. Where do they get the money to waste launching all these expensive rockets? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:26:50 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:28:22 PM EST
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China doesn't control him. They wish they did,but they don't. The best analogy for him is what happens with rock stars when they never get told no and have a near unlimited budget. He is like Michael Jackson but instead of rising to fame was born into a religion with a nation state as his followers and instead of building an amusement park and molesting kids he builds nukes and kidnaps Japanese . Consider who the last person to ever tell him "no" might have been and who could try to guide him now. His view of reality just isn't anything near ours and trying to place our precepts into him is pointless. It's not that he is crazy in the way of having a diagnosable illness ,it is that his entire reality is so far removed from ours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd love for an actual psychologist to explain what the purpose of Kim's behavior is. I figure that he is either being scripted by handlers...likely the Chinese...and just a puppet whose master has some larger, grandiose plan....or....he truly is nuts. All this test firing dick waving has gotten silly. He knows what he has, and by now knows what his weapons do. Yet...he keeps being conspicuous about things...which makes me think he is completely full of shit. Lots of talk...lots of posturing....lots of bullshit. Am I the only one who thinks that all this being played out in the media is exactly why it's not a real threat? Who fights like this in real life? It's like some stupid B movie. Even more evidence that idiocracy was a documentary. The best analogy for him is what happens with rock stars when they never get told no and have a near unlimited budget. He is like Michael Jackson but instead of rising to fame was born into a religion with a nation state as his followers and instead of building an amusement park and molesting kids he builds nukes and kidnaps Japanese . Consider who the last person to ever tell him "no" might have been and who could try to guide him now. His view of reality just isn't anything near ours and trying to place our precepts into him is pointless. It's not that he is crazy in the way of having a diagnosable illness ,it is that his entire reality is so far removed from ours. Yep, don't control them, can't control them. It would take maybe a week of China cutting trade with North Korea for North Korea to collapse. They could just stop sending oil and food to North Korea, for instance. But yea, they don't control them... |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:29:06 PM EST
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inb4 nothing
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:31:40 PM EST
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I wonder if the hackers can get to his launch guidance system and change the course of his next launch to China or Russia
 That would take care of our problem with the NORKS, either one of those two can use their ordnance to F him up and we can sit back and laugh.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:33:31 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:43:40 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:45:21 PM EST
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Does anyone actually think that they know what they are supposedly holding? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:45:49 PM EST
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Does anyone actually think that they know what they are supposedly holding? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Does anyone actually think that they know what they are supposedly holding? Does it matter? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:47:42 PM EST
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Well?
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:57:11 PM EST
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I come here to not see this kind of shit. The fucking commies HERE think they can bait THE_EMPORER into a fight? 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:57:12 PM EST
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Posted: 9/4/2017 6:59:14 PM EST
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Does anyone actually think that they know what they are supposedly holding? SEOUL – NK News has obtained exclusive photos of Saturday’s “Victory Day” parade showing close-up details of North Korea’s military that tell a very different story from the sterner file photos distributed by international media.The high resolution photos paint a different portrait to the straight-faced, goose-stepping and robotic soldiers normally associated with North Korean military parades. These images were taken minutes after the convoy passed the main square, showing the excitement of the soldiers and adding a more human touch.They also reveal telling clues about the state of some of North Korea’s most advanced weaponry. NK News has learnt that North Korean officials said that the “nuclear backpacks” seen at Saturday’s parade contain hazardous materials suits — not miniaturized nuclear weapons, as some media have suggested.Hazardous suits are impermeable whole-body garments, normally worn as protection during times of radioactive, chemical or biological contamination.Commentators at Armscontrolwonk.com also speculated that the bags could contain “repackaged DP-5B geiger counters,” a Soviet-era device used commonly to detect radiation after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. But the bottom line, however, is that there is healthy cause for skepticism about what could be in these bags — even with close up pictures.“Everyone wants to make news about these, however, what they contain is pure speculation…They could barely contain a mask and protective overalls. In reality, it is likely that they are simply stuffed with paper or rags,” said Korean People’s Army (KPA) expert Joseph Bermudez, Jr, in an email to NK News.“Readers need to understand is that the North Koreans know that we look at every little detail and try to gain intelligence from it. So at times they do things to ‘mess with our heads,'” Bermudez cautioned. 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:07:14 PM EST
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How quickly after an ICBM launch can we find its trajectory?
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:07:57 PM EST
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Trade with China only makes up 83% of North Korea's economy as of 2015, and probably more now. Yep, don't control them, can't control them. It would take maybe a week of China cutting trade with North Korea for North Korea to collapse. They could just stop sending oil and food to North Korea, for instance. But yea, they don't control them... FYI, You're again showing your ignorance of PRC-DPRK relations, NK was actually selling food to China in the form of seafood (which has since stopped, as of 26 days ago). NK isn't starving because they have no food, certain North Koreans are starving because the food produced is denied to them because Songun, Military First policy. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:08:10 PM EST
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Click SEOUL – NK News has obtained exclusive photos of Saturday’s “Victory Day” parade showing close-up details of North Korea’s military that tell a very different story from the sterner file photos distributed by international media.The high resolution photos paint a different portrait to the straight-faced, goose-stepping and robotic soldiers normally associated with North Korean military parades. These images were taken minutes after the convoy passed the main square, showing the excitement of the soldiers and adding a more human touch.They also reveal telling clues about the state of some of North Korea’s most advanced weaponry. NK News has learnt that North Korean officials said that the “nuclear backpacks” seen at Saturday’s parade contain hazardous materials suits — not miniaturized nuclear weapons, as some media have suggested.Hazardous suits are impermeable whole-body garments, normally worn as protection during times of radioactive, chemical or biological contamination.Commentators at Armscontrolwonk.com also speculated that the bags could contain “repackaged DP-5B geiger counters,” a Soviet-era device used commonly to detect radiation after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. But the bottom line, however, is that there is healthy cause for skepticism about what could be in these bags — even with close up pictures.“Everyone wants to make news about these, however, what they contain is pure speculation…They could barely contain a mask and protective overalls. In reality, it is likely that they are simply stuffed with paper or rags,” said Korean People’s Army (KPA) expert Joseph Bermudez, Jr, in an email to NK News.“Readers need to understand is that the North Koreans know that we look at every little detail and try to gain intelligence from it. So at times they do things to ‘mess with our heads,'” Bermudez cautioned. https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zoomed-out-dirty-bombs.jpg https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/dirty-bomb-suicide-pack1.jpg |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:09:53 PM EST
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We were supposed to attack them or at least have a few precision missiles take out a few weapons factories after they detonated that nuke.
They called our bluff. They will continue to escalate, provoke, and advance their weapon technologies without ever bombing a US city. They want to be perceived as a powerful militaristic state and they will keep showboating and walking that line until they are satisfied. You know Kim is sitting there with a big fucking smug smile on his face. In his mind, he's succeeding at bullying the "bully". He's probably quite satisfied with himself and I bet he wants more. A lot more. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:10:09 PM EST
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Click SEOUL – NK News has obtained exclusive photos of Saturday’s “Victory Day” parade showing close-up details of North Korea’s military that tell a very different story from the sterner file photos distributed by international media.The high resolution photos paint a different portrait to the straight-faced, goose-stepping and robotic soldiers normally associated with North Korean military parades. These images were taken minutes after the convoy passed the main square, showing the excitement of the soldiers and adding a more human touch.They also reveal telling clues about the state of some of North Korea’s most advanced weaponry. NK News has learnt that North Korean officials said that the “nuclear backpacks” seen at Saturday’s parade contain hazardous materials suits — not miniaturized nuclear weapons, as some media have suggested.Hazardous suits are impermeable whole-body garments, normally worn as protection during times of radioactive, chemical or biological contamination.Commentators at Armscontrolwonk.com also speculated that the bags could contain “repackaged DP-5B geiger counters,” a Soviet-era device used commonly to detect radiation after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. But the bottom line, however, is that there is healthy cause for skepticism about what could be in these bags — even with close up pictures.“Everyone wants to make news about these, however, what they contain is pure speculation…They could barely contain a mask and protective overalls. In reality, it is likely that they are simply stuffed with paper or rags,” said Korean People’s Army (KPA) expert Joseph Bermudez, Jr, in an email to NK News.“Readers need to understand is that the North Koreans know that we look at every little detail and try to gain intelligence from it. So at times they do things to ‘mess with our heads,'” Bermudez cautioned. https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zoomed-out-dirty-bombs.jpg https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/dirty-bomb-suicide-pack1.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does anyone actually think that they know what they are supposedly holding? SEOUL – NK News has obtained exclusive photos of Saturday’s “Victory Day” parade showing close-up details of North Korea’s military that tell a very different story from the sterner file photos distributed by international media.The high resolution photos paint a different portrait to the straight-faced, goose-stepping and robotic soldiers normally associated with North Korean military parades. These images were taken minutes after the convoy passed the main square, showing the excitement of the soldiers and adding a more human touch.They also reveal telling clues about the state of some of North Korea’s most advanced weaponry. NK News has learnt that North Korean officials said that the “nuclear backpacks” seen at Saturday’s parade contain hazardous materials suits — not miniaturized nuclear weapons, as some media have suggested.Hazardous suits are impermeable whole-body garments, normally worn as protection during times of radioactive, chemical or biological contamination.Commentators at Armscontrolwonk.com also speculated that the bags could contain “repackaged DP-5B geiger counters,” a Soviet-era device used commonly to detect radiation after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. But the bottom line, however, is that there is healthy cause for skepticism about what could be in these bags — even with close up pictures.“Everyone wants to make news about these, however, what they contain is pure speculation…They could barely contain a mask and protective overalls. In reality, it is likely that they are simply stuffed with paper or rags,” said Korean People’s Army (KPA) expert Joseph Bermudez, Jr, in an email to NK News.“Readers need to understand is that the North Koreans know that we look at every little detail and try to gain intelligence from it. So at times they do things to ‘mess with our heads,'” Bermudez cautioned. https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zoomed-out-dirty-bombs.jpg https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/dirty-bomb-suicide-pack1.jpg Are those new production over there? 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:22:07 PM EST
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Click SEOUL – NK News has obtained exclusive photos of Saturday’s “Victory Day” parade showing close-up details of North Korea’s military that tell a very different story from the sterner file photos distributed by international media.The high resolution photos paint a different portrait to the straight-faced, goose-stepping and robotic soldiers normally associated with North Korean military parades. These images were taken minutes after the convoy passed the main square, showing the excitement of the soldiers and adding a more human touch.They also reveal telling clues about the state of some of North Korea’s most advanced weaponry. NK News has learnt that North Korean officials said that the “nuclear backpacks” seen at Saturday’s parade contain hazardous materials suits — not miniaturized nuclear weapons, as some media have suggested.Hazardous suits are impermeable whole-body garments, normally worn as protection during times of radioactive, chemical or biological contamination.Commentators at Armscontrolwonk.com also speculated that the bags could contain “repackaged DP-5B geiger counters,” a Soviet-era device used commonly to detect radiation after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. But the bottom line, however, is that there is healthy cause for skepticism about what could be in these bags — even with close up pictures.“Everyone wants to make news about these, however, what they contain is pure speculation…They could barely contain a mask and protective overalls. In reality, it is likely that they are simply stuffed with paper or rags,” said Korean People’s Army (KPA) expert Joseph Bermudez, Jr, in an email to NK News.“Readers need to understand is that the North Koreans know that we look at every little detail and try to gain intelligence from it. So at times they do things to ‘mess with our heads,'” Bermudez cautioned. https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zoomed-out-dirty-bombs.jpg https://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/dirty-bomb-suicide-pack1.jpg |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:26:36 PM EST
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@limaxray or anyone else.
Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:28:49 PM EST
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@limaxray or anyone else. Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:32:08 PM EST
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BREAKING:
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK! You know how you know North Korea is testing a nuke or a missile? It's a fucking day that ends in "Y", that's how. Somehow South Korea and Japan are still fucking fine. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:33:38 PM EST
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Well that makes more sense. Here's what we had.  U.S. had Cold War 'backpack nukes' 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:34:10 PM EST
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That's actually a good question. The way I read it, it goes "Does China have the ability to detect incoming missiles?" |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:37:54 PM EST
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Its time to worry when everyone in the Trump administration says, "No Comment".
Everything else is political theater at this point. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:39:54 PM EST
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You read wrong. It wasnt a political question about PRC DPRK Relations. Its straight military tech, does the DPRK themself possess the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:40:25 PM EST
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Does anyone actually think that they know what they are supposedly holding? |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:41:33 PM EST
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Its time to worry when everyone in the Trump administration says, "No Comment". Everything else is political theater at this point. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:45:16 PM EST
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You read wrong. It wasnt a political question about PRC DPRK Relations. Its straight military tech, does the DPRK themself possess the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's actually a good question. The way I read it, it goes "Does China have the ability to detect incoming missiles?" |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:46:24 PM EST
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Here we go again?
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:46:46 PM EST
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"The Korean People's Army operates a very large amount of equipment, including 4,100 tanks, 2,100 APCs, 8,500 field artillery pieces, 5,100 multiple rocket launchers, 11,000 air defense guns and some 10,000 MANPADS and anti-tank guided missiles in the Ground force; about 500 vessels in the Navy and 730 combat aircraft in the Air Force, of which 478 are fighters and 180 are bombers. North Korea also has the largest special forces in the world, as well as the largest submarine fleet."
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:47:34 PM EST
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My plan for Seoul is that he doesn't hit it if we target his missile facilities only. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:52:52 PM EST
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You want to do some reading on NK strategic missile deployment. He would think twice about ending his own life, over a few factories, before deciding to destroy Seoul. We need to precision strike one of his factories while all our forces are ready to go just in case. Call his bluff. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:55:20 PM EST
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You want to do some reading on NK strategic missile deployment. Oh yeah. Fuck S. Koreans. They are swarthy little yellow slant eyes? I don't trust them... as far as I can throw them. 
ETA: No way do I get THAT cocky...if I'm 4'2 and U.S. 50's DADs' insured that I had land. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:57:36 PM EST
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If Seoul gets shelled, that will be the day Kim and his country die. He would think twice about ending his own life, over a few factories, before deciding to destroy Seoul. We need to precision strike one of his factories while all our forces are ready to go just in case. Call his bluff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You want to do some reading on NK strategic missile deployment. He would think twice about ending his own life, over a few factories, before deciding to destroy Seoul. We need to precision strike one of his factories while all our forces are ready to go just in case. Call his bluff. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:58:57 PM EST
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No. I posted this in one of the other threads. What I think we're seeing: a race to the finish line. To get the keys to the nuclear clubhouse, a country needs to demonstrate A) a working nuclear weapon that's B) small & robust enough to be deliverable with C) a working platform (plane, ICBM, SLBM, etc.). If they had a nuke, but nothing to deliver it with, who cares, right? If they have an awesome ICBM, but no nuke to put on it, all they have is a really expensive lawn dart. All of those things involve testing of the individual components, then testing as a system, to achieve an operational capability. Lil Kim knows we'd never let him get away with any kind of long-term testing program to get to his goal. So, he's jamming all his final developmental tests into a really short time frame, in an effort to saturate the decision-making processes of his adversaries. If he gets his tests done quickly enough, one after another, then boom, he's now demonstrated the capability before his adversaries can come up with a response. He's at first and goal on the 2 yard line. He's just got to do a couple of sprints at the end to make it happen, he's hoping to do that in a blitz before the opposition organizes a good defense. My bet: one or two more launches, at least one more nuke test (intel says he's getting ready to do both), then a major announcement on Sept 9 that they have a nuclear capability. (Sept 9th is their independence day.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That fat fuck is playing the biggest game of "suicide by cop" that the world has ever seen. I posted this in one of the other threads. What I think we're seeing: a race to the finish line. To get the keys to the nuclear clubhouse, a country needs to demonstrate A) a working nuclear weapon that's B) small & robust enough to be deliverable with C) a working platform (plane, ICBM, SLBM, etc.). If they had a nuke, but nothing to deliver it with, who cares, right? If they have an awesome ICBM, but no nuke to put on it, all they have is a really expensive lawn dart. All of those things involve testing of the individual components, then testing as a system, to achieve an operational capability. Lil Kim knows we'd never let him get away with any kind of long-term testing program to get to his goal. So, he's jamming all his final developmental tests into a really short time frame, in an effort to saturate the decision-making processes of his adversaries. If he gets his tests done quickly enough, one after another, then boom, he's now demonstrated the capability before his adversaries can come up with a response. He's at first and goal on the 2 yard line. He's just got to do a couple of sprints at the end to make it happen, he's hoping to do that in a blitz before the opposition organizes a good defense. My bet: one or two more launches, at least one more nuke test (intel says he's getting ready to do both), then a major announcement on Sept 9 that they have a nuclear capability. (Sept 9th is their independence day.) Russia doesn't want that, China doesn't want that, India can't want that...but there won't be any stopping South Korea or Japan if he demonstrates a deliverable thermonuclear capability. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 7:59:09 PM EST
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In short nothing to worry about. Here's what we had.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UokyDHJnjg4
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3147/3080371066_5692b39000_z.jpg?zz=1 http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201308/07/06/d0063806_185241.jpg Yeah I know they probably had other jobs. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:00:02 PM EST
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ya backpacks full of fidget spinners! there is a pic of them right on the front! |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:01:22 PM EST
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:04:35 PM EST
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China doesn't control him. They wish they did,but they don't. Having a degree of support for NK means the US has less world power. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 8:05:40 PM EST
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That is one helluva reckless gamble with one million lives, including at least 28,000 Americans. Our national strategic actions rarely include such bets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You want to do some reading on NK strategic missile deployment. He would think twice about ending his own life, over a few factories, before deciding to destroy Seoul. We need to precision strike one of his factories while all our forces are ready to go just in case. Call his bluff. |
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