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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:38:21 PM EDT
But daddy needed new shoes.

Yet again I contemplate getting a no-mar tire changer.

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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:41:19 PM EDT
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Never again will I do that myself.   F spoons
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:45:19 PM EDT
[#2]
I could change mine on my 1290 SAR, glad I didn’t try harder or I would have damaged the pressure sensor.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:49:48 PM EDT
[#3]
I got a little carried away.  Changing tires is easy in my garage now.

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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:56:35 PM EDT
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Wow!


I had a KLX 250. Needed a new tire. So Smart Guy here says I'll change it my self with spoons to learn how in case I ever need to do it out in the field.

So I learned a lot. Lotza new bad words, bruised hands and more. Finally got the tire changed.

Will Never do that again.............

Couple of weeks later I pick up about 3 inches of bent up welding rod in rear tire and get to do it again.

Second time went a little better but still a very difficult job.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:01:48 PM EDT
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I got a little carried away.  Changing tires is easy in my garage now.

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I'm jelly

The crime scene:

The results:




Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:04:08 PM EDT
[#6]
It doesn’t suck when you have these



Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:05:40 PM EDT
[#7]
A No Mar would make your life much easier.

I bought a Cycle Hill that has paid for itself ten times over. I’ve changed hundreds of tires on it, it’s a cake job. I got a trailer hitch mount for it so I can change tires in the driveway, at the track, wherever.

The downside is that your friends know that you have it.......you get REAL popular. But, it keeps the beer stocked, so there’s that.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:05:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Nomar is a good alternative to those who dont want to spend alot for pneumatic machines.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:07:33 PM EDT
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But daddy needed new shoes.

Yet again I contemplate getting a no-mar tire changer.

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No-Mar bar + HF stand for me!   And I change/flip tires a lot!

Full No-Mar is pretty nice.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:07:35 PM EDT
[#10]
Not having a clue what I was doing changed tires on my bike with a pair of spoons and didn't think it was too difficult.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:09:07 PM EDT
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I got a little carried away.  Changing tires is easy in my garage now.

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I’ve had those same machines going on 7 years now.

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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:11:20 PM EDT
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I paid a shop to change my tires when I got my first bike back in '94.  I've lost count of the number of tires I've put on at this point.

It takes longer to get the stupid wheels off the bike than it does to remove and replace the tire.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:15:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Heidenhaus  are the worst. Hell you can hardly tell they got air in them they are so stiff. lol
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:18:19 PM EDT
[#14]
There is a giant thread on ADV about changing tires with lots of pointers.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:20:13 PM EDT
[#15]
You don't know suck until you try to change an ice tire.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:21:37 PM EDT
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Oh, and balancing beads worked great for me.  Never used them before, no trouble at all.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:23:11 PM EDT
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GBRSE
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:23:17 PM EDT
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If you went in dry, that's your fault
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:25:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:28:25 PM EDT
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Copious Yamalube was used.

I like these 705s but the rear on the GSA is a bit of a bear.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:42:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Every video I have ever watched on changing a stiff sidewalled tire makes me never want to attempt it

I'd rather just pay someone else.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:43:55 PM EDT
[#22]
I've changed motorcycle,car,truck,and tractor tires by hand with tire irons. Just remember when you start to keep the bead of the tire in the drop center of the rim on one section. Start working the tire off the rim opposite this point.Rim locks (bead locks) on dirt bike tires will still require a few cuss words though.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:47:17 PM EDT
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Every video I have ever watched on changing a stiff sidewalled tire makes me never want to attempt it

I'd rather just pay someone else.
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I don’t have a shop anywhere near me. Plus I figure one day I may not have a choice so I just change them all myself.

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:49:50 PM EDT
[#24]
The skinny ones are bad.  The rear (170 to 190) are less shitty.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:57:19 PM EDT
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Do it.


I only swap out rubber once or twice a year for myself, but... I get to change all my friends tires too so... there's that.

Upgrade from the cam blocks though.
Adv tires are way easier with the other things I cant recall what they're called
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 11:03:43 PM EDT
[#26]
But, so much easier when you’re at home in the garage rather than out on the road or off the beaten path. Spoons beat the screwdrivers we used in my teens.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 11:13:52 PM EDT
[#27]
I just changed the read on my ebike two days ago. Bled the brakes myself, changed the rotors, and new pads. Was my first time and taught myself with youtube. Wasn't so bad, but i did get a pinch flat the first go, had to pull it again, replace the tube, and then get it all back together.

Guys have suggested rimlock for the rear. I think ill pass, seems like it would make things infinitely more difficult.

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 11:34:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Changed the tires on my son's KTM 85 today,17/14 inch. Kicked my ass for the better part the day. Pinch popped 3 tubes in th process. My fingers bled, still sore. Never again
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 11:55:14 PM EDT
[#29]
No whining till you take the bib mousse out of a Husky that doesn't need it anymore. (hint, C-clamps, lots of them,can't use the machine)
Also there's at least one Suzuki and 2 Triumphs that don't have dropped sections on the rim.
$100 labor if you bring me the wheel.
Wanna talk about $90 tubes with proprietary valve stem placement and design  on a Vulcan?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:43:39 AM EDT
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Changed the tires on my son's KTM 85 today,17/14 inch. Kicked my ass for the better part the day. Pinch popped 3 tubes in th process. My fingers bled, still sore. Never again
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Tiny dirt bike tires are the worst, hands down!

I did a set of TTR-90 tires and extra thick tubes.  Absolutely kicked my ass.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:47:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Look up the zip tie method on Youtube... $3 worth of zip ties from Harbor Freight and it's easy peasy.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 10:55:45 AM EDT
[#32]
Long tire irons and lots of lube, off and on. I have done more than a few on the side of the road and the lube makes the biggest difference. I run the big Heidi’s also.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:02:19 AM EDT
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Look up the zip tie method on Youtube... $3 worth of zip ties from Harbor Freight and it's easy peasy.
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I have seen that method but have never tried it. It always seems to be road tires though so I wonder how well it does on dual sport/dirt tires.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:04:30 AM EDT
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Instead of a No-Mar, I'd look around for a used actual professional tire machine. A relative has a No-Mar he uses for his motorcycle tires. Compared to doing it by hand it seems great. However, I bought a used Hunter tire machine and balancer for not much more than he paid for the No-Mar. I've seen multiple in that price range since. Compared to the No-Mar, there is no comparison. It is so much easier. It's also much much easier to change my own car and truck tires, and I can balance them on the balancer, which he can't do.

The last time I used his No-Mar, I couldn't believe how much of a pain it was compared to the ease of the Hunter machine I have. The last few times my uncle with the No-Mar has needed to change his tires, instead of using the No-Mar he's just driven over to my house to use my Hunter machine instead. That tells me all I need to know.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:07:13 AM EDT
[#35]
I'd change mine at the local BMW club's tech days.  The only thing better than having your own machine, is using someone else's machine for free.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:14:30 AM EDT
[#36]
Never done a motorcycle tire, but I did all four tires on our golf cart once. I’m paying someone to do it next time.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:29:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:37:19 AM EDT
[#38]
Rabaconda
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:47:51 AM EDT
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I paid a shop to change my tires when I got my first bike back in '94.  I've lost count of the number of tires I've put on at this point.

It takes longer to get the stupid wheels off the bike than it does to remove and replace the tire.
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This. If you guys are having trouble changing a motorcycle tire, you’re doing something wrong.

I got pretty good at changing tires when I had a dirt bike since I’d go through them really fast. But I’ve been changing all my motorcycle tires for years now.

Here’s a tip: use tire shine for lube instead of soapy water. It stays slippery for longer. Just make sure to spray the tread down with soap before going for a ride or you may have trouble keeping the rubber side down.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:49:17 AM EDT
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Your tire spoons are absolute shit and you probably rubbed it raw.

Get a set of motion pro tire spoons and use more lube.  

Youre screwed if you’re not using enough lube.  Pretend like the tire and rim is your ass and you’ve been selected as a stand in for piper perri.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:50:35 AM EDT
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I just changed the read on my ebike two days ago. Bled the brakes myself, changed the rotors, and new pads. Was my first time and taught myself with youtube. Wasn't so bad, but i did get a pinch flat the first go, had to pull it again, replace the tube, and then get it all back together.

Guys have suggested rimlock for the rear. I think ill pass, seems like it would make things infinitely more difficult.

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@DCLXVI

Have you tried Tubliss?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:50:37 AM EDT
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This. If you guys are having trouble changing a motorcycle tire, you’re doing something wrong.

I got pretty good at changing tires when I had a dirt bike since I’d go through them really fast. But I’ve been changing all my motorcycle tires for years now.

Here’s a tip: use tire shine for lube instead of soapy water. It stays slippery for longer. Just make sure to spray the tread down with soap before going for a ride or you may have trouble keeping the rubber side down.
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On the flip side...some tires are harder than others and that's just the way it is.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:53:25 AM EDT
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I changed a 16" on the back of a Kz1000LTD once by hand. Once.
Not again without a changer.
18/19" might be easier but still not worth the effort.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:53:40 AM EDT
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The stories

No center stand makes it more of a bitch.

I’ve lifted bikes with ropes and chains to garage trusses to remove the wheels

And trying to change them bitches in cooler weather sucks even more
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 11:56:25 AM EDT
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Why wouldn't you just cut the old tire off?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:02:23 PM EDT
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Heidenhaus  are the worst. Hell you can hardly tell they got air in them they are so stiff. lol
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The Mefo's I had on my KTM990 were the same way.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:02:45 PM EDT
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Why not just cut the old tire off?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:05:55 PM EDT
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Why not just cut the old tire off?
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I actually had to do that on a really old tire off a classic Triumph. The thing is tires are filled with metal and the rubber likes to melt and smear. Its an absolute nightmare, in short.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:07:10 PM EDT
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I bought a cheap HF changer years ago and some aftermarket nylon "fingers" to grab the motorcycle wheels. But it was difficult to use with the HF lever bar, trying to stick scraps of milk-jug plastic over the rub points when removing the tire. And using spoons and scraps of plastic jug with the wheel on the HF unit was awkward.

So I just went back to spoons and clamps on a scrap of carpet or plywood on the floor.

Next time I will order the no-mar bar kit and try that with the HF changer.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:07:39 PM EDT
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Here’s a tip: use tire shine for lube instead of soapy water. It stays slippery for longer. Just make sure to spray the tread down with soap before going for a ride or you may have trouble keeping the rubber side down.
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Armor-All is the correct answer.
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