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Posted: 5/12/2019 2:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the fire fighter picked up the chunk of graphite with the fuel channel in it I just said "that's bad". What's the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? I got a wiff of muratic acid once and my mouth tasted like a battery. Or just plain old radiation damage directly to taste buds/mucus membranes. Could just be the taste of your own cells being wrecked. Vision changes, nausea, diharerra; tingling extremities, blood pressure changes..maybe metallic taste..all directly the result of radiation damage to various body systems. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 2:26:49 PM EDT
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I absolutely love this stuff. I spent 5 years designing the new AP1000 plants. Likely to only see 2 reactors built out of 8 planned through.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 2:27:05 PM EDT
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When the fire fighter picked up the chunk of graphite with the fuel channel in it I just said “that’s bad”. What’s the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? I got a wiff of muratic acid once and my mouth tasted like a battery. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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“What does the levels read?” “3.6... but only because the machine tops out at...” “Good. Good! 3.6 isn’t great but it ain’t terrible.” Meanwhile the 1000R/hr meter is locked in the safe. And we'll just ignore the core fragments scattered across the lawn.... |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 5:42:34 PM EDT
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There is thankfully limited experience with human exposure to extreme levels of radiation, but there have been a few. The metallic taste is something that has been reported with most of the events, I don't know if the reason is really understood. The victims of the Japanese criticality accident reported it, and that was liquid solutions so not necessarily metal vapor in the air or anything like that. Although I would suspect that there was some of the core material metals that were vaporized and that deposited on the graphite and other debris at Chernobyl. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the fire fighter picked up the chunk of graphite with the fuel channel in it I just said “that’s bad”. What’s the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? Another science question, the show has folks looking sun burned when exposed. How realistic is that and what’s the reason? Is it super high dose of UV, or just radiation fucking up cells/capillaries. If you’re exposed to gamma, do you “burn”? As in thermal damage to tissue? Or is it just fucking your cells up so much that blood rushes to “heal” tissue. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 5:44:18 PM EDT
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Is there any way we could get a human test subject and expose them to similar levels of radiation so we can see how accurate the show is? What kind of hoops would you have to jump thru do get that done?
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Posted: 5/12/2019 5:49:20 PM EDT
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Is there any way we could get a human test subject and expose them to similar levels of radiation so we can see how accurate the show is? What kind of hoops would you have to jump thru do get that done? |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 5:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I'm sure it has something to do with the electro chemistry of how taste buds work (ions in solution) with ionization wreaking havoc on that electrochemistry. But I'm just educated guessing. Another science question, the show has folks looking sun burned when exposed. How realistic is that and what's the reason? Is it super high dose of UV, or just radiation fucking up cells/capillaries. If you're exposed to gamma, do you "burn"? As in thermal damage to tissue? Or is it just fucking your cells up so much that blood rushes to "heal" tissue. Cancer patients receiving radiation treatments often suffer damage to tissues exposed during the treatments both the skin and various internal structures..similar mechanism I suspect |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever hoops one has to jump to to become a totalitarian dictator of a country with nuclear technology. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:11:04 PM EDT
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Thanks. I’m sure it has something to do with the electro chemistry of how taste buds work (ions in solution) with ionization wreaking havoc on that electrochemistry. But I’m just educated guessing. Another science question, the show has folks looking sun burned when exposed. How realistic is that and what’s the reason? Is it super high dose of UV, or just radiation fucking up cells/capillaries. If you’re exposed to gamma, do you “burn”? As in thermal damage to tissue? Or is it just fucking your cells up so much that blood rushes to “heal” tissue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the fire fighter picked up the chunk of graphite with the fuel channel in it I just said “that’s bad”. What’s the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? Another science question, the show has folks looking sun burned when exposed. How realistic is that and what’s the reason? Is it super high dose of UV, or just radiation fucking up cells/capillaries. If you’re exposed to gamma, do you “burn”? As in thermal damage to tissue? Or is it just fucking your cells up so much that blood rushes to “heal” tissue. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:31:04 PM EDT
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When the fire fighter picked up the chunk of graphite with the fuel channel in it I just said “that’s bad”. What’s the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? Another science question, the show has folks looking sun burned when exposed. How realistic is that and what’s the reason? Is it super high dose of UV, or just radiation fucking up cells/capillaries. If you’re exposed to gamma, do you “burn”? As in thermal damage to tissue? Or is it just fucking your cells up so much that blood rushes to “heal” tissue. Beta burns were a serious medical issue for some victims of the Chernobyl disaster; from 115 patients treated in Moscow, 30% had burns covering 10–50% of body surface, 11% were affected on 50–100% of skin; the massive exposure was often caused by clothes drenched with radioactive water. Some firefighters suffered beta burns of lungs and nasopharyngeal region after inhalation of massive amounts of radioactive smoke. Out of 28 deaths, 16 had skin injuries listed among the causes. The beta activity was extremely high, with beta/gamma ratio reaching 10–30 and beta energy high enough to damage basal layer of the skin, resulting in large area portals for infections, exacerbated by damage to bone marrow and weakened immune system. Some patients received skin dose of 400–500 Gy. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:32:04 PM EDT
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Reaction to exposure to extremely high radiation dose... Chernobyl is probably the only example of this kind of human exposure to beta radiation. At that kind of dose there would be immediate affects as if it was a heat burn. Electron beams are used in industrial settings for heating things, drying paint and ink, stuff like that. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:41:20 PM EDT
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Reaction to exposure to extremely high radiation dose... Chernobyl is probably the only example of this kind of human exposure to beta radiation. At that kind of dose there would be immediate affects as if it was a heat burn. Electron beams are used in industrial settings for heating things, drying paint and ink, stuff like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the fire fighter picked up the chunk of graphite with the fuel channel in it I just said “that’s bad”. What’s the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? Another science question, the show has folks looking sun burned when exposed. How realistic is that and what’s the reason? Is it super high dose of UV, or just radiation fucking up cells/capillaries. If you’re exposed to gamma, do you “burn”? As in thermal damage to tissue? Or is it just fucking your cells up so much that blood rushes to “heal” tissue. Beta burns were a serious medical issue for some victims of the Chernobyl disaster; from 115 patients treated in Moscow, 30% had burns covering 10–50% of body surface, 11% were affected on 50–100% of skin; the massive exposure was often caused by clothes drenched with radioactive water. Some firefighters suffered beta burns of lungs and nasopharyngeal region after inhalation of massive amounts of radioactive smoke. Out of 28 deaths, 16 had skin injuries listed among the causes. The beta activity was extremely high, with beta/gamma ratio reaching 10–30 and beta energy high enough to damage basal layer of the skin, resulting in large area portals for infections, exacerbated by damage to bone marrow and weakened immune system. Some patients received skin dose of 400–500 Gy. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 7:06:42 PM EDT
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If you see immediate effects is it safe to assume it was a fatal dose? The doses that aren't survivable are the ones that destroy chromosomes and marrow wholesale instead of retail. Most of the other effects can be survivable with intense supportive care. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 7:07:42 PM EDT
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Any of you guys with Xfinity cable, there's a free on-demand documentary that goes into quite a bit of detail. It's called "Chernobyl Disaster, As We Watched"
There is a very slight anti-nuclear bent in places but it's otherwise pretty good. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 8:03:36 PM EDT
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Just watched the first episode last night, and spent much of today reading this thread and diving into the rabbit hole that is youtube. Fascinating stuff!
Thanks to those knowledgeable posters for filling in the holes... |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 8:07:10 PM EDT
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The beta particles that are a form of radiation can cause a sunburn like effect. So it could be that or it could be extreme doses of gamma and xray that are causing damage to the skin in short order. Cancer patients receiving radiation treatments often suffer damage to tissues exposed during the treatments both the skin and various internal structures..similar mechanism I suspect Alpha particles are helium nuclei, iirc with no electrons. Gamma rays are just very high energy photons. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 8:58:43 PM EDT
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Any of you guys with Xfinity cable, there's a free on-demand documentary that goes into quite a bit of detail. It's called "Chernobyl Disaster, As We Watched" There is a very slight anti-nuclear bent in places but it's otherwise pretty good. The wikipedia page says 28 direct deaths and 15 estimated indirect deaths from Chernobyl. In this documentary they mention thousands of deaths. I think the truth is somewhere in-between but the middle ground between thousands and 15 is still north of a thousand. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 9:29:46 PM EDT
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The scene where the guy leaned over the edge and looked at the core and they showed the core freaked me out. Yeah that gave me chills. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 9:36:45 PM EDT
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If you see immediate effects is it safe to assume it was a fatal dose? |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 11:12:23 PM EDT
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Beta burns were a serious medical issue for some victims of the Chernobyl disaster; from 115 patients treated in Moscow, 30% had burns covering 10–50% of body surface, 11% were affected on 50–100% of skin; the massive exposure was often caused by clothes drenched with radioactive water. Some firefighters suffered beta burns of lungs and nasopharyngeal region after inhalation of massive amounts of radioactive smoke. Out of 28 deaths, 16 had skin injuries listed among the causes. The beta activity was extremely high, with beta/gamma ratio reaching 10–30 and beta energy high enough to damage basal layer of the skin, resulting in large area portals for infections, exacerbated by damage to bone marrow and weakened immune system. Some patients received skin dose of 400–500 Gy. 
FYI: 1 Gray = 1 Joule/kg absorbed = 100 rad absorbed (in the show they often use Roentgen (R) where 1 R works out to about 1 rad absorbed dose) Mortality due to Whole Body Absorbed Dose WITHOUT Medical Treatment: 1-2 Gy ... 0-5% 2-6 Gy ... 5-95% 6-8 Gy ... 95-100% 8-30 Gy ... 100% >30 Gy ... 100% Mortality due to Whole Body Absorbed Dose WITH Intensive Medical Care: 1-2 Gy ... 0-5% 2-6 Gy ... 5-50% 6-8 Gy ... 50-100% 8-30 Gy ... 99-100% >30 Gy ... 100% What strikes me as odd is (even though they were initially wildly mistaken about the source of radiation) the nonchalant manner in which they were like, "Oh you've just been around leaking feed water... that's all. You'll be fine, just go to medical. We've all seen worse. All this radiation is just from leaking feedwater no need to wake or notify anyone. Only 3.6 roentgen... are you a pussy or something?" LOL WUT? RBMK leaking feedwater is NORMAL and being around it unprotected is no big deal!?! 
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Posted: 5/12/2019 11:35:36 PM EDT
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HOLY SHIT
FYI: 1 Gray = 1 Joule/kg absorbed = 100 rad absorbed (in the show they often use roentgen where 1 R works out to about 1 rad absorbed dose) Mortality due to Whole Body Absorbed Dose WITHOUT Medical Treatment: 1-2 Gy ... 0-5% 2-6 Gy ... 5-95% 6-8 Gy ... 95-100% 8-30 Gy ... 100% >30 Gy ... 100% Mortality due to Whole Body Absorbed Dose WITH Intensive Medical Care: 1-2 Gy ... 0-5% 2-6 Gy ... 5-50% 6-8 Gy ... 50-100% 8-30 Gy ... 99-100% >30 Gy ... 100% What strikes me as odd is (even though they were initially wildly mistaken about the source of radiation) the nonchalant manner in which they were like, "Oh you've just been around leaking feed water... that's all. You'll be fine, just go to medical. We've all seen worse. All this radiation is just from leaking feedwater no need to wake or notify anyone. Only 3.6 roentgen... are you a pussy or something?" LOL WUT? RBMK leaking feedwater is NORMAL and being around it unprotected is no big deal!?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Beta burns were a serious medical issue for some victims of the Chernobyl disaster; from 115 patients treated in Moscow, 30% had burns covering 10–50% of body surface, 11% were affected on 50–100% of skin; the massive exposure was often caused by clothes drenched with radioactive water. Some firefighters suffered beta burns of lungs and nasopharyngeal region after inhalation of massive amounts of radioactive smoke. Out of 28 deaths, 16 had skin injuries listed among the causes. The beta activity was extremely high, with beta/gamma ratio reaching 10–30 and beta energy high enough to damage basal layer of the skin, resulting in large area portals for infections, exacerbated by damage to bone marrow and weakened immune system. Some patients received skin dose of 400–500 Gy.
FYI: 1 Gray = 1 Joule/kg absorbed = 100 rad absorbed (in the show they often use roentgen where 1 R works out to about 1 rad absorbed dose) Mortality due to Whole Body Absorbed Dose WITHOUT Medical Treatment: 1-2 Gy ... 0-5% 2-6 Gy ... 5-95% 6-8 Gy ... 95-100% 8-30 Gy ... 100% >30 Gy ... 100% Mortality due to Whole Body Absorbed Dose WITH Intensive Medical Care: 1-2 Gy ... 0-5% 2-6 Gy ... 5-50% 6-8 Gy ... 50-100% 8-30 Gy ... 99-100% >30 Gy ... 100% What strikes me as odd is (even though they were initially wildly mistaken about the source of radiation) the nonchalant manner in which they were like, "Oh you've just been around leaking feed water... that's all. You'll be fine, just go to medical. We've all seen worse. All this radiation is just from leaking feedwater no need to wake or notify anyone. Only 3.6 roentgen... are you a pussy or something?" LOL WUT? RBMK leaking feedwater is NORMAL and being around it unprotected is no big deal!?! I'm guessing the Soviets didn't care about OSHA safety standards. 
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Posted: 5/13/2019 12:15:18 AM EDT
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What's the reason they tasted metal? Ionization in their mouth or just metals in the air? |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 12:58:28 AM EDT
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I absolutely love this stuff. I spent 5 years designing the new AP1000 plants. Likely to only see 2 reactors built out of 8 planned through. Its a shame the plants scheduled for the US never materialized. What are your thoughts on the AP1000 - how does it stack up to the other alternative plant designs that are out there? |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 1:32:51 AM EDT
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Been fascinated with the Chernobyl incident for years, and was looking forward to seeing this show. I don't have HBO, but the first episode was available 'on demand' and I watched it earlier. Interesting take on what transpired, during the accident....those operators should have dragged Dyatlov over to the reactor, and tossed his ass in.
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:17:44 AM EDT
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It's probably the radiation stimulating the nerves in their tongue. At high enough rates, you can feel pinpricks on your skin from the nervous stimulation. Even at relatively low rates, you'll see retina stimulation with your eyelids closed. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 9:06:34 PM EDT
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Ep 2 just started
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Posted: 5/13/2019 9:18:36 PM EDT
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I've been reading about the AP1000 plants, they look really promising upgrades to the current Gen II/II+ we're currently using. Its a shame the plants scheduled for the US never materialized. What are your thoughts on the AP1000 - how does it stack up to the other alternative plant designs that are out there? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I absolutely love this stuff. I spent 5 years designing the new AP1000 plants. Likely to only see 2 reactors built out of 8 planned through. Its a shame the plants scheduled for the US never materialized. What are your thoughts on the AP1000 - how does it stack up to the other alternative plant designs that are out there? https://econtent.unm.edu/digital/collection/nuceng/search/field/all/mode/all/conn/and/display/200/order/subjec/ad/asc?utm_content=buffer6bf12&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer When it comes to to water reactor designs I was a fan of the ESBWR. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 9:54:13 PM EDT
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Been fascinated with the Chernobyl incident for years, and was looking forward to seeing this show. I don't have HBO, but the first episode was available 'on demand' and I watched it earlier. Interesting take on what transpired, during the accident....those operators should have dragged Dyatlov over to the reactor, and tossed his ass in. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 9:55:56 PM EDT
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i can't believe EVERYBODY died!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or will, eventually the in-laws are here so i can't watch
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Posted: 5/13/2019 9:58:57 PM EDT
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Ep 2 really interesting so far.
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:05:14 PM EDT
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Episode 2 ending was INTENSE!
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:12:29 PM EDT
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Did the lights go out because of shit ruskie technology / qc or did radiation toast the batteries?
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:14:37 PM EDT
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Episode 2 ending was INTENSE! I'm ecstatic they gave those 3 a major part of this episode. How that ended... holy shit. I couldn't think of many circumstances that would be more terrifying. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:15:05 PM EDT
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Did the lights go out because of shit ruskie technology / qc or did radiation toast the batteries? |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:15:10 PM EDT
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Did the lights go out because of shit ruskie technology / qc or did radiation toast the batteries? |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:27:05 PM EDT
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Did the lights go out because of shit ruskie technology / qc or did radiation toast the batteries? Consider it this way: A battery holds electrical potential because there's a reaction that wants to create a flow of electrons. But the potential is separated by the terminals, and normally flows through the load. Ionizing radiation creates paths for passage of electrons other than from the positive terminal to the negative one. Its the basic principle, by the way, of Americium based smoke detectors. Those have a beam of rads that flow through an air gap, ionizing the air molecules which allows an electronic charge to flow between two conductors as if a wire were there. (The smoke detector "detects" smoke when particles of smoke block the radiation, which impedes the ionizing of the air and interrupts the flow of that voltage. At any rate, back to the batteries... the high radiation shorts out the battery from the inside. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 10:31:31 PM EDT
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I swear I was on the edge of my seat the entirety of episode two.....HBO knocked this one out of the park.
When they told Gorbachev the impact of the "lava" hitting the full water tanks it's just hard to fathom even so many years later. 
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:02:35 PM EDT
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I swear I was on the edge of my seat the entirety of episode two.....HBO knocked this one out of the park. When they told Gorbachev the impact of the "lava" hitting the full water tanks it's just hard to fathom even so many years later. https://i.imgflip.com/30w8fn.jpg And also fair: Because the men the volunteered to go into that soup of liquid contamination were brave men, and just like the old men who volunteered to do high dose work at Fukishima because they were beyond child rearing years, the things needed to be done. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:14:35 PM EDT
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Very good episode. I'm so used to binging shows that it's hard to wait a week for new ones.
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:17:42 PM EDT
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Holy mackerel. The ending of the second episode, dude.
So many people are just total monsters and studs in this series. You can really see and feel how the true gravity of the situation hits Legasov and later on Shcherbina. Legasov knew things were fucked up all along, but Shcherbina had the party blinders on, like the "This is fine" meme with the dog sitting in the burning room. It wasn't until he actually got to Chernobyl that the reality hit him like a ton of bricks. He sure as hell didn't waste any time flinging Bryukhanov and Fomin under the bus, but Commies gonna Commie I guess. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:28:21 PM EDT
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With all the SJW bullshit these days are we really supposed to believe a woman muscled her way through security zones and single handedly saved the situation? It's cool if she really did, but Hollywood's agenda has me second guessing everything these days. The guy that finally gets to the valve that diverts the water in the next episode will probably be a black transgender rusky.
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:29:03 PM EDT
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Holy mackerel. The ending of the second episode, dude.
So many people are just total monsters and studs in this series. You can really see and feel how the true gravity of the situation hits Legasov and later on Shcherbina. Legasov knew things were fucked up all along, but Shcherbina had the party blinders on, like the "This is fine" meme with the dog sitting in the burning room. It wasn't until he actually got to Chernobyl that the reality hit him like a ton of bricks. He sure as hell didn't waste any time flinging Bryukhanov and Fomin under the bus, but Commies gonna Commie I guess. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:29:50 PM EDT
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Did i hear those estimates of the steam explosion right? Thought she said like 9 megatons, there is no way a steam explosion could do that.
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:32:51 PM EDT
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With all the SJW bullshit these days are we really supposed to believe a woman muscled her way through security zones and single handedly saved the situation? It's cool if she really did, but Hollywood's agenda has me second guessing everything these days. The guy that finally gets to the valve that diverts the water in the next episode will probably be a black transgender rusky. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:33:58 PM EDT
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With all the SJW bullshit these days are we really supposed to believe a woman muscled her way through security zones and single handedly saved the situation? It's cool if she really did, but Hollywood's agenda has me second guessing everything these days. The guy that finally gets to the valve that diverts the water in the next episode will probably be a black transgender rusky.
https://meaww.com/hbo-chernobyl-emilty-watson-spoiler-scientists-ulana-valery-legasov |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:35:54 PM EDT
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I like how it's a nuclear emergency and the nuclear scientists in Minsk won't come in because it's Saturday.
Such patriots! Communism: bringing out the worst in people since 1917. 
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:36:18 PM EDT
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That ending.
Shiiiiiiiit. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:38:01 PM EDT
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With all the SJW bullshit these days are we really supposed to believe a woman muscled her way through security zones and single handedly saved the situation? It's cool if she really did, but Hollywood's agenda has me second guessing everything these days. The guy that finally gets to the valve that diverts the water in the next episode will probably be a black transgender rusky.
https://meaww.com/hbo-chernobyl-emilty-watson-spoiler-scientists-ulana-valery-legasov God forbid the majority of good shit and good deeds came from white men. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither Hollywood nor the BBC produces the facts anymore. It's all about gender and identity politics. God forbid the majority of good shit and good deeds came from white men. Fuck's sake. I remember when news media used to take OFFENSE when bloggers accused them of "fake but true to the narrative" story telling. Now they take pride in it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 11:44:45 PM EDT
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Neither Hollywood nor the BBC produces the facts anymore. It's all about gender and identity politics. God forbid the majority of good shit and good deeds came from white men. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the SJW bullshit these days are we really supposed to believe a woman muscled her way through security zones and single handedly saved the situation? It's cool if she really did, but Hollywood's agenda has me second guessing everything these days. The guy that finally gets to the valve that diverts the water in the next episode will probably be a black transgender rusky.
https://meaww.com/hbo-chernobyl-emilty-watson-spoiler-scientists-ulana-valery-legasov God forbid the majority of good shit and good deeds came from white men. |
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