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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:35:55 AM EDT
I know once again that I’m late to the party but this is the best thing I’ve seen on tv in years.
I’ve always had a morbid fascination with this subject including the incident at 3 Mile Island but I am blown away at the way the people over there solved this impossible task. Or at the very least contained it for the short term and eventually a longer term. Hell, I even got a respect for Boris Yeltsin.  .I can’t wait to watch the rest of it, politics be damned. I remember years back when my ex wife asked me why I could get into super hero movies. I told her that I didn’t like the idea of make believe demigods demonstrating their abilities simply for entertainment. That it cheapens the concept of what it means to be a hero. The sheer amount of sacrifice to the average random soviet citizen had to go through is difficult to imagine, especially with those that participated. Plenty of heroism took place there.....and as much of a total goat fuck that that was, it could have been hideously worse  Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:36:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Meh. 3.6. Not good, not bad.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:37:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. 3.6. Not good, not bad. I finally understand what that means, and holy fuck...... |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:38:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Excellent show. My favorite scene.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:38:33 AM EDT
[#4]
it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:40:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. Ok comrade. Any significant examples or just nitpicking? |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:41:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:43:14 AM EDT
[#7]
It’s fantastic and truly frightening.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:43:41 AM EDT
[#8]
Edited ~ medicmandan
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:44:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: I know once again that I’m late to the party but this is the best thing I’ve seen on tv in years. I’ve always had a morbid fascination with this subject including the incident at 8 Mile Island but I am blown away at the way the people over there solved this impossible task. Or at the very least contained it for the short term and eventually a longer term. Hell, I even got a respect for Boris Yeltsin. .I can’t wait to watch the rest of it, politics be damned. I remember years back when my ex wife asked me why I could get into super hero movies. I told her that I didn’t like the idea of make believe demigods demonstrating their abilities simply for entertainment. That it cheapens the concept of what it means to be a hero. The sheer amount of sacrifice to the average random soviet citizen had to go through is difficult to imagine, especially with those that participated. Plenty of heroism took place there.....and as much of a total goat fuck that that was, it could have been hideously worse  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8You're not wrong. One of the best shows ever made. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:44:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan Wow 19’er. That escalated quickly |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:45:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. 3.6. Not FIFY |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:45:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. There was a few things incorrect, but for the most part my understanding is that it was mostly accurate. I hate it when people start shit like this then don't back anything up. ETA- I see your follow up, why don't you get the fuck out you angry little troll. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:46:59 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... Good edit troll GTFO and let the adults talk now |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:47:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Support that statement with specifics Edited ~ medicmandan WTF?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:48:10 AM EDT
[#15]
i thought it was great also
Also it runs pretty close with the book Chernobyl. (forgot the author and i've packed it away). that book will keep you up at night. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:49:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Support that statement with specifics Read Midnight in Chernobyl. I, too, thought this was a great series, but then I read the book it is based upon and realized much of the story was completely made up. The primary scientist figure in the series was 100% complicit in the events that led up to the Chernobyl event. Plenty of other reactors had had similar incidents with the same behavior. They make him out to be the "voice of reason" for a "if only we had listened to the scientists" narrative, but his hands were just as dirty as the rest. The whole water explosion scenario is vastly overblown. At the end, I give the series a high rating for drama, but a very low one for accuracy. Read the book. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:51:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: I know once again that I'm late to the party but this is the best thing I've seen on tv in years. I've always had a morbid fascination with this subject including the incident at 8 Mile Island but I am blown away at the way the people over there solved this impossible task. Or at the very least contained it for the short term and eventually a longer term. Hell, I even got a respect for Boris Yeltsin. .I can't wait to watch the rest of it, politics be damned. I remember years back when my ex wife asked me why I could get into super hero movies. I told her that I didn't like the idea of make believe demigods demonstrating their abilities simply for entertainment. That it cheapens the concept of what it means to be a hero. The sheer amount of sacrifice to the average random soviet citizen had to go through is difficult to imagine, especially with those that participated. Plenty of heroism took place there.....and as much of a total goat fuck that that was, it could have been hideously worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8 I have seen the show tag on either Amazon or Netflix... (cant remember which) but wondered. I think I will take a look! Thanks!  |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:53:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. Agreed to an extent. Some of it was over the top and unrealistic. The unborn child absorbing radiation from the mothers exposure to her firefighter husband was one such moment. Suggesting the people on the bridge all died from the fallout was bullshit- most everyone survived. OTOH the character of Ulana Komhyuk was artistic liberty and I think necessary for streamlining the story. Overall a very good series. The explanation into how the RBMK failed, as I understand it was spot on. As well as the realization the USSR knew there was a flaw in the design and hid it from everyone, even their own nuke techs operating the reactors. That’s what commies do. ETA: don’t be a fucking dick, 19’er. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:55:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HOLY SHIT!! THE NUCLEAR INCIDENT CAUSED THE ISLAND TO GROW BY 5 MILES??? I never knew that. I have seen the show tag on either Amazon or Netflix... (cant remember which) but wondered. I think I will take a look! Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know once again that I'm late to the party but this is the best thing I've seen on tv in years. I've always had a morbid fascination with this subject including the incident at 8 Mile Island but I am blown away at the way the people over there solved this impossible task. Or at the very least contained it for the short term and eventually a longer term. Hell, I even got a respect for Boris Yeltsin. .I can't wait to watch the rest of it, politics be damned. I remember years back when my ex wife asked me why I could get into super hero movies. I told her that I didn't like the idea of make believe demigods demonstrating their abilities simply for entertainment. That it cheapens the concept of what it means to be a hero. The sheer amount of sacrifice to the average random soviet citizen had to go through is difficult to imagine, especially with those that participated. Plenty of heroism took place there.....and as much of a total goat fuck that that was, it could have been hideously worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8I have seen the show tag on either Amazon or Netflix... (cant remember which) but wondered. I think I will take a look! Thanks! Lol. Typo corrected Three mile island |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:55:24 AM EDT
[#20]
Found it fascinating. Was in Germany when it blew, and took the downwind radioactive fallout. Didn't even faze me.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:55:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Read Midnight in Chernobyl. I, too, thought this was a great series, but then I read the book it is based upon and realized much of the story was completely made up. The primary scientist figure in the series was 100% complicit in the events that led up to the Chernobyl event. Plenty of other reactors had had similar incidents with the same behavior. They make him out to be the "voice of reason" for a "if only we had listened to the scientists" narrative, but his hands were just as dirty as the rest. The whole water explosion scenario is vastly overblown. At the end, I give the series a high rating for drama, but a very low one for accuracy. Read the book. Agreed on both points, but as a drama its gets about as close to a documentary as you can get while still keeping the average Joe's attention. Most folks don't want to sit through Chernobyl Uncensored, but they'll gladly sit down for the HBO series. Its not a bad way to introduce people to the failures of the Soviet State. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:55:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Agreed. It was absolutely amazing, incredibly well done and fascinating. I've always been interested in that incident
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:56:39 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed to an extent. Some of it was over the top and unrealistic. The unborn child absorbing radiation from the mothers exposure to her firefighter husband was one such moment. Suggesting the people on the bridge all died from the fallout was bullshit- most everyone survived. OTOH the character of Ulana Komhyuk was artistic liberty and I think necessary for streamlining the story. Overall a very good series. The explanation into how the RBMK failed, as I understand it was spot on. As well as the realization the USSR knew there was a flaw in the design and hid it from everyone, even their own nuke techs operating the reactors. That’s what commies do. ETA: don’t be a fucking dick, 19’er. Apologies. And it was good TV....well acted.. and a compelling story. It just didn't have the medical/traumatic physical effect that the TV series showed. That's the biggest part. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:57:43 AM EDT
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There was a video series where someone took a motorcycle trip through the area of Chernobyl many years after the incident. It was like another planet where all life seemed to cease to exist. Very eerie.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 11:59:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a video series where someone took a motorcycle trip through the area of Chernobyl many years after the incident. It was like another planet where all life seemed to cease to exist. Very eerie. it's on youtube, and the village is Pripyat. they just left. period. eerie. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:00:02 PM EDT
[#26]
There were things they changed to make it a better show but it was still really good and still got most things right. It was good though.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:00:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Support that statement with specifics Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. I've read that the mining official guy, whatever his title was, was actually very much a veteran miner himself and that the miners were far more willing. But I also didn't even stay at a holiday inn express last night so take that with a radioactive grain of salt. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok comrade. Any significant examples or just nitpicking? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. Ok comrade. Any significant examples or just nitpicking? I remember in some early threads about the series some pedantic people on here were complaining they didn't speak with Russian accents. I would think speaking English instead of Russian would be a more glaring inaccuracy. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:09:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: it's on youtube, and the village is Pripyat. they just left. period. eerie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There was a video series where someone took a motorcycle trip through the area of Chernobyl many years after the incident. It was like another planet where all life seemed to cease to exist. Very eerie. it's on youtube, and the village is Pripyat. they just left. period. eerie. Its like life hit the pause button in 1986 over there and now you can see nature is starting to grow and swallow it up and the man made creations are deteriorating. George Carlin was right. After we are gone, earth will rebuild... shake us off like we were a bad case of fleas. We too will become fossils eventually |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:13:03 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Read Midnight in Chernobyl. I, too, thought this was a great series, but then I read the book it is based upon and realized much of the story was completely made up. The primary scientist figure in the series was 100% complicit in the events that led up to the Chernobyl event. Plenty of other reactors had had similar incidents with the same behavior. They make him out to be the "voice of reason" for a "if only we had listened to the scientists" narrative, but his hands were just as dirty as the rest. The whole water explosion scenario is vastly overblown. At the end, I give the series a high rating for drama, but a very low one for accuracy. Read the book. Every document has discrepancies from the others, personal accounts and timelines vary some but the show nailed the major causes and events. Did the coal miners really mess up the suit of the minister of mining? Who knows, probably not. There were miners, they did excavate a chamber under the reactor. Was there a risk of massive(megaton) explosion if the coreium hit the bubbler pool..I don't think so but did they think that it could explode at the time? The causes of the accident were accurate. Was there a visible beam of radiation out of the wrecked reactor? Probably not but I wasn't there. Did everyone on the bridge of death later die of radiation sickness? Its disputed. The show reflected the conflicting "truth" that exists even today. Nitpicking. Excellent show that dramatized a highly technical event better than anything I've ever seen. The greatest take away from Chernobyl (show) is the political dysmorphic disorder of its creators. They honestly believed it was a commentary on the Trump administration...completely missing the obvious criticism of socialism and communism. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:13:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the village is Pripyat. they just left. period. "two weeks" |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:16:17 PM EDT
[#32]
“Its just radiation bro”
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:27:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Great series. I watched it twice.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:29:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it's nowhere near historically, or even scientifically, accurate. 6/10. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:31:00 PM EDT
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They did pretty good for getting period correct items but they messed up on some of the guns. The soldiers "AK74" rifles were incorrect in the scene when the Coal Minister met with the miners. They had a 74 muzzle brake, but appear to have a late cast-pattern AKM 45-degree gas block, AKM FSB, and the laminate furniture is AKM pattern. The magazines have 7.62x39 curvature. The one soldier on the right had a steel ribbed magazine, which the Soviets never used in the AK74(the Poles and Romanians had steel 5.45 mags). They only had AG4 "bakelites" and possibly some plum mags at that time for the 74 in the mid 80's. The soldier on the right seems to have a Polish 3-cell magazine pouch. Also note the dark bakelite handled 6x3 pattern bayonets, possibly Polish or E-German. An orange bakelite 6x4 or even a plum 6x5 bayonet would be correct for the period and use on a AK74.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:38:42 PM EDT
[#36]
Ukrainian wife said they nailed local details, the buses used, telephones in apartments, was period correct. She was singing along and impressed how well they did it. Not sure on accuracy of actual accident, we did the tour back in 2017.
     
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:43:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:46:29 PM EDT
[#38]
I liked it.
When the dude went up on the roof and got the first look at the meltdown...that was terrifying. Great scene. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:46:45 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukrainian wife said they nailed local details, the buses used, telephones in apartments, was period correct. She was singing along and impressed how well they did it. Not sure on accuracy of actual accident, we did the tour back in 2017. https://i.ibb.co/SvyvH9j/21458043-1100845536719353-6189259096065697703-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/j5MBBsg/21414741-1100408080096432-3650124349669833675-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Sn76SNg/cn24.jpg https://i.ibb.co/3f1mHvM/22218306-1116279265175980-2452858600536427331-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/3TnyShP/22219664-1116285785175328-5406438077230803463-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/9sxPrhG/cn12.jpg Super cool. It’s on my bucket list.....fairly far down the line |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:46:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Typo corrected Three mile island Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I know once again that I'm late to the party but this is the best thing I've seen on tv in years. I've always had a morbid fascination with this subject including the incident at 8 Mile Island but I am blown away at the way the people over there solved this impossible task. Or at the very least contained it for the short term and eventually a longer term. Hell, I even got a respect for Boris Yeltsin. .I can't wait to watch the rest of it, politics be damned. I remember years back when my ex wife asked me why I could get into super hero movies. I told her that I didn't like the idea of make believe demigods demonstrating their abilities simply for entertainment. That it cheapens the concept of what it means to be a hero. The sheer amount of sacrifice to the average random soviet citizen had to go through is difficult to imagine, especially with those that participated. Plenty of heroism took place there.....and as much of a total goat fuck that that was, it could have been hideously worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8I have seen the show tag on either Amazon or Netflix... (cant remember which) but wondered. I think I will take a look! Thanks! Lol. Typo corrected Three mile island Here's the guy responsible for the 8 mile island incident.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:49:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed on both points, but as a drama its gets about as close to a documentary as you can get while still keeping the average Joe's attention. Most folks don't want to sit through Chernobyl Uncensored, but they'll gladly sit down for the HBO series. Its not a bad way to introduce people to the failures of the Soviet State. This. It's a scathing indictment of applied Marxism. Honestly I can't believe it got made these days. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:53:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukrainian wife said they nailed local details, the buses used, telephones in apartments, was period correct. She was singing along and impressed how well they did it. Not sure on accuracy of actual accident, we did the tour back in 2017. https://i.ibb.co/SvyvH9j/21458043-1100845536719353-6189259096065697703-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/j5MBBsg/21414741-1100408080096432-3650124349669833675-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Sn76SNg/cn24.jpg https://i.ibb.co/3f1mHvM/22218306-1116279265175980-2452858600536427331-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/3TnyShP/22219664-1116285785175328-5406438077230803463-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/9sxPrhG/cn12.jpg Nice shirt choice. 
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:54:01 PM EDT
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I loved it. Some of the actors they cast were great dopplegangers for the real people. Pretty amazing piece of TV.
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Posted: 9/1/2020 12:59:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great series. I watched it twice. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:00:38 PM EDT
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I also was stationed in Germany when it happened. Bizarre time for US troops, we didnt know what was going on, we went on full alert with all our rolling armor loaded up and waiting at the front gate to head out.
Later when we stood down the food supply was interrupted, no fresh veggies, milk, eggs or stuff like that. My wife and I watched the show and really enjoyed it. I think it was a given they took a certain artistic freedom in making the show. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:00:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukrainian wife said they nailed local details, the buses used, telephones in apartments, was period correct. She was singing along and impressed how well they did it. Not sure on accuracy of actual accident, we did the tour back in 2017. https://i.ibb.co/SvyvH9j/21458043-1100845536719353-6189259096065697703-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/j5MBBsg/21414741-1100408080096432-3650124349669833675-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Sn76SNg/cn24.jpg https://i.ibb.co/3f1mHvM/22218306-1116279265175980-2452858600536427331-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/3TnyShP/22219664-1116285785175328-5406438077230803463-o.jpg https://i.ibb.co/9sxPrhG/cn12.jpg |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:02:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan 
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:03:38 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok comrade. Any significant examples or just nitpicking? |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:09:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For starters, the woman's character is totally made up just to add a female role. But since that wasn't SJW enough, they went even further to have her save the day. Good series otherwise. They even showed a real photograph of the group of scientists that the character was meant to represent in the closing credits....during the explanation of khomyuk's character. They were totally open about it. |
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They openly stated that khomyuk was a composite of the many scientists that were consulting on the disaster, there was no dishonesty there, they had to compress many characters into one for the sake of telling the story. They even showed a real photograph of the group of scientists that the character was meant to represent in the closing credits....during the explanation of khomyuk's character. They were totally open about it. |
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