How  much face can Xi lose on the inter national stage before the people behind the curtain decide he has to go?

What many fail to realize is that, over the past 3 decades, politicians from both sides of the ailsle have been trading American jobs for cheap Chinese goods. Reversing this trend is going to take more than just a couple of years.

We've enjoyed the music, now it's time to pay the piper.

LOL. There are plenty of people named Patel, Kim, Nguyen, and Mohamed who will pick up the slack.

The guy in charge of negotiating says they want to negotiate:

Beijing is denying any call took place so there's a decent chance Trump simply made something up on the spot...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-china-trade-chinese-called-us-twice-xi-jinping-seeks-make-a-deal-today-2019-08-26/

Right before the democrats realize this

I raffed

If it weren't for DT's impeding my civil rights and pursuit of happiness, I'd say he's the best CIC I've ever even read about. The guy is a true boss. The mission act has made my VA experience so good.

China is a one horse town, trading primarily with the US

The tariffs are hurting them a lot worse than the US

Stall tactics don't remove the tariffs

The Democrat Party bosses have known this since just after President Trump took office. That's one of the main reasons they're trying so hard to defeat him before the the low-infomation voters realize what's happening.

This. He's not conventional because he's not a politician but he's definitely trying to work in the best long-run interests of the US.

So how much Chinese/Democratic collusion will take place in the 2020 election?

No doubt.  Do you think China will leave it all to chance?

They are actively working to subvert our republic and overthrow Trump.

All of it.  All of the collusion.

Communism hasn't been a viable long-term strategy for anyone else yet, so hopefully we're OK for a while

I wouldn't disagree that is their goal but I don't think it's achievable for them.

It is amazing and refreshing that for the first time in my life our president is actually doing what is best for our nation.  Every other one has done their best to screw us every way they could and as much as they could without having street riots.  Yes he dicked up in bumpstocks but anyone that really thought those were going to remain legal....well I would love to sell them a bridge.  The never trumpers will not accept anything other than “orang man bad”

I skimmed the article and didn't see anything like what you are claiming.  Maybe I am just missing it.

the giant fentanyl shipment caught going into mexico yesterday is signs china is fucking lying.

fuck china.

I love that they "totally aren't aircraft carriers" and agree they are acting like an ally should.  What do they call them...helicopter destroyers? those have got to be the worlds biggest destroyers

When you owe the bank $25,000, the bank owns you.

when you owe the bank $25 Billion, you own the bank.

Nevermind, I found it.  It was hard to find in between all the bullshit CBS had in that story to support China and try to make USA look bad.

troof

Yep.....delay the deal and the US will cancel 1% of its debt to you (China) every business  day.  We will give you the weekends off.  Deal or no deal beeotches?

Don't like it?  Come collect it.

Lol no it's not.

You guys sound like Moms Demand Action with all your panty wetting about fentanyl.

They're stalling and are hoping that Trump doesn't get reelected. Just IMO.

they found 25 fucking TONS, of it going into Mexico in the last few days.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/08/25/25-tons-of-fentanyl-from-china-seized-in-mexico/

I don't know what planet your from but that sounds like a bit of a problem to me.

No that's bee their gameplay since day 1.

Also look at their use of our tech industry to help promote that.

Anyone remember when Th_At know it all  guy used to spam this board with post after post and page after page of bullshit regarding how great it was to move manufacturing from The United States to China ?

They don't call it a long march for nothing.   Frankly I can't see any real reason to take the screws off until we see regime change.    Why anyone ever thought doing business with china was a good idea is beyond me.

China doesn’t have good intentions PERIOD. They want control and are willing to play deception and the long game. Xi will hold onto the thrown long time.

Until on Wednesday we find out, "Oops! Jose and Juan down at the port Customs Station didn't know how to read the field test and it was never fentanyl."

Until on Wednesday we find out, "Oops! Jose and Juan down at the port Customs Station didn't know how to read the field test and it was never fentanyl."

CNBC
"In China's onshore market, the yuan fell to 7.1500 per dollar, the lowest since February 2008.  In the offshore market, the yuan slid to as low as 7.187 yuan, the weakest since international trading in the currency began in 2010, before recovering to 7.1624 yuan - down 0.4% on the day - after Trump's upbeat comments on a trade deal."

And that would be an easy position to take. Properly applied, 58,000lbs is enough fentanyl to wipe out most of the country-this is a national security issue that absolutely does require inspecting every ship coming into the country and is worthy of sinking any vessel found to be carrying it in the high seas.

A month of container inspections with thousands of freighters lined up waiting idle off of California would absolutely make the Chinese make any problems with fentanyl a distant memory.

We’ll leave Asia just as soon as they abandon the Panama Canal...

This!!

@Laoshi let us know when they start bailing for the houses they've bought in the USA. That'll be when the fun is about to kick off.

Never

It’s in their name. They will start saying that Trump is in secret alliance with aliens coming to invade the planet next.

Yeah...solid denial...pfftttt..ShareBlue shills.

My thoughts exactly.  Trump can put china in their place for the moment.  Hopefully Trump can come up with a long term solution that is unlikely to be reversed.

When they sign a deal we like, then they'll have bent the knee.

Until then, all of these reports are hot air.

Chinese PROPAGANDA--------China global news network.

The talking head are going crazy all over the board. A group of multi country talking heads from around the world. This includes a Nevertrumper professor from US, French, British, and a few Chinese.

" Oh Trump is impossible to negotiate. He will not allow the US team to send clear signals on their intentions."

"Trumps message changes so often it is very confusing."

"The US team is sending mix signals to China's team. This is not the way to negotiate. The Clear signals the US has used in their negotiations in the past has been thrown away and a new way of less clear signals are not working."

"Presidential negotiations need to play by the rules. Trump stating he is having " Second thoughts and wanything can change. " NOT FAIR NOT FAIR we need to pin down this man so as to give us the ability to plan our moves. His ego is driving the global market down."

"Trump is not heeding the rules on trade and this hurts the world."

" 2020 and Trump reelection run is fast approaching. He need to appeal to his base but the farmers are no longer supporting him. He is playing both sides of the street and will not commit to a firm rules based negotiations until after his reelection. "

" The US is tanking the global economy. Trump has abandoned the multilateral global agreement of the past and his US first policy is hurting the US allies. Trump only cares about US and the rest of the world is not getting their fair share of the global economy. "

" The US needs help from the world. Trump doesn't represent the majority of the US. The US has many other leaders who are constantly working to help the rest of world. These great democratic US leaders are in contact with the rest of the world. Trumps reelection is going to be hurt by the collapsing US economy. "

G7
Trump and Russia ----- Trump love Russia = China says this is bad because Russia is mean.
Trump and EU-------------Trump is making Europe sad and shaming them by asking for fair trade.
Trump and Iran ---------   Trump is killing the Iranian economic power around the world. THIS IS UNFAIR.

Trump has changed the rules and he feels the US doesn't have to follow the agreements or rules of the past. Rude orange man, TRUMP BAD.

 LMFAO.

I hate to say it but Trumps big mouth is his biggest enemy come Election Day.

Lol, that’s the softest “denial” I think I’ve ever read.

Trump openly talking about the calls is another poke at the ChiComs - who do not talk about the status of negotiations - and IMO demonstrates how much leverage he currently has.

They've been selling them off since ~2015 to defend their dogshit currency.

The string of dominoes has, IMHO, already begun. It will end with the collapse of the Yuan and China's economic house of cards will come crumbling down.