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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:22:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the U. S. Air Force's first official kill of a Chinese aircraft? The navy got a J-8 a few years back. Maybe that doesn't count. Just like the deer my wife got last season. I told her it doesn't count if you hit it with the Suburban. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:22:38 PM EDT
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Fox just said Subic Bay will be reopened with Philippine Government blessing to piss off the ChiCommies.
As to Balloon Gate, too little too late. Time to park a sub wolf pack between Chyna and Taiwan and see if they fuck around! Some are saying the tech package was blown up. Not what I saw on that video. The balloon was destroyed and you can see the tech package falling from the proofed balloon. Question now is will we be able to recover it?!?! |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of that makes any sense. I don't think you know how this works at all lol. Let the big kids chat for awhile and sit this one out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol at the replies. Combat Sent hoovered up everything there is to know about what was being transmitted. Hardware recovery would have been nice but it was seemingly decided that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.  All we can collect is everything we already know. The balloon wasn't collecting and transmitting Intel about China! Letting the balloon traverse our country, including a number of sensitive sites, is criminal. None of that makes any sense. I don't think you know how this works at all lol. Let the big kids chat for awhile and sit this one out. Educate me. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:23:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:23:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Proof Biden isn't in charge. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:23:34 PM EDT
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The.condensible gases inside the balloon are troubling.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:24:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Educate me. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:24:44 PM EDT
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hmmm, they have F-16's 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:25:00 PM EDT
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Watch the latest clip, He does. “I told them to shoot it down on Wednesday”. Total embarrassment.
But replies in this thread are pure gold. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They know more about the F22 that did something within the fighter and missile envelope that's published on wikipedia? lol ok. THEY TRICKED US GANG! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKpj2InCQAAfVQJ?format=jpg&name=small They certainly could have gather radar or heat signature at close range. Bomb bay doors opening. Radio encryption and frequency data, weapons system data from point blank range. While the F22 is not exactly a secret, the Chinese have never gotten a chance to gobble up all that data from so close. Anything the Combat Sent, E8, and Rivet Joint were getting, this could have been doing exactly the same back. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We shot down many Chinese aircraft in the Korean War. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:25:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You must be fun at parties Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: - lol at the "goin hot" cheerleaders - the commies almost certainly rigged the payload to separate in case of lifting body disturbance - super-light fragile structure, robotics, comms, and other electronics will frag heavily on hitting water at terminal velocity - nothing to recover except the bag and bits of frames/panels - water shootdown ensures coverup complete - everyone involved was just following orders You must be fun at parties funny thing is, he's not wrong. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:25:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally obliterated the hardware suite.  Nice footage, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Someone make a gif of the missile detonating yet? Good close up of it getting hit.
Totally obliterated the hardware suite. Nice footage, though. Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:26:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The.condensible gases inside the balloon are troubling. Explain please. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watch the latest clip, He does. “I told them to shoot it down on Wednesday”. Total embarrassment. But replies in this thread are pure gold. He probably thinks this morning was Wednesday... |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol at the replies. Combat Sent hoovered up everything there is to know about what was being transmitted. Hardware recovery would have been nice but it was seemingly decided that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. This. We'll never know any of the details, but you can bet your bottom dollar we soaked that thing before splashing it. Good execution by the 'doers.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a russian flag in your avatar? Fuck no. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Educate me. Russia have you by the tail and won't let go? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You serious Clark? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is this the first ever shooting down of a foreign aircraft over US territorial waters ? Try 7 December 1941. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was the PRC, I would send ten more, all with powerful transmitters that played the PRC National Anthem lol. "Hunter Biden, your check late, we send next week, we promise" on occasion, or via Morse on some obscure frequency would really stir shit up.  Kharn |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:29 PM EDT
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Seems like a better plan would have been an F15 and a couple bursts from the M61, rather than to target the payload with a missile from an F22.
F15 is supposed to have a higher service ceiling anyways. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does a fighter pilot denote a balloon kill on his plane? Yeah, what nose cone art? A Whoopie cushion right under the canopy? Chocolate starfish letting out a toot? What is USAF standard? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:52 PM EDT
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Good. Fuck China and FJB!
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:27:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a russian flag in your avatar? Fuck no. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Educate me. Dog tags and a Russian flag. Ain't that some shit. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:28:41 PM EDT
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double
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:28:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like a better plan would have been an F15 and a couple bursts from the M61, rather than to target the payload with a missile from an F22. F15 is supposed to have a higher service ceiling anyways. Has it been confirmed that is was a F22? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:29:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:29:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does pilot get to paint balloon kill on his plane? yes His plane captain will be on the tarmac painting before the engines even stop spinning. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:29:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Proof Biden isn't in charge. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's the potato.... Biden wanted to shoot it Wednesday but Pentagon wanted to wait. I thought it showed up Thursday. NORAD can track Santa across the globe but apparently this balloon used unconventional tactics that evaded detection. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been confirmed that is was a F22? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seems like a better plan would have been an F15 and a couple bursts from the M61, rather than to target the payload with a missile from an F22. F15 is supposed to have a higher service ceiling anyways. Has it been confirmed that is was a F22? no |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:29:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: Fox just said Subic Bay will be reopened with Philippine Government blessing to piss off the ChiCommies. As to Balloon Gate, too little too late. Time to park a sub wolf pack between Chyna and Taiwan and see if they fuck around! Some are saying the tech package was blown up. Not what I saw on that video. The balloon was destroyed and you can see the tech package falling from the proofed balloon. Question now is will we be able to recover it?!?! @RABIDFOX50 look closely at my last post on the previous page. You can see it completely destroyed in the Twitter clip, perhaps a panel falling. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The.condensible gases inside the balloon are troubling. What are you thinking? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:30:07 PM EDT
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First footage of the wreckage has been posted.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:30:41 PM EDT
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Maybe I'm slow but why couldn't they have just towed it away days ago with some sort of grappling hook on a plane?
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:30:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ALL missiles have a proximity fuse, that is why they arent called hitiles  |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:30:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:31:00 PM EDT
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lol all the beach combers coming out with metal detectors
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:31:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So 80 years ago, we managed to shoot down a balloon BEFORE it crossed the whole country? Dozens of Japanese balloons landed in the PNW in WW2. The US government kept it secret. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:31:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dog tags and a Russian flag. Ain't that some shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Educate me. Dog tags and a Russian flag. Ain't that some shit. I hope you're having fun. I am. 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:31:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @RABIDFOX50 look closely at my last post on the previous page. You can see it completely destroyed in the Twitter clip, perhaps a panel falling. You are correct. Perhaps what we see is the solar panels but maybe the tech pack itself may still be intact. We shall see but yes, I stand corrected. 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:31:52 PM EDT
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That was the opening act, now, on to the main event.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:31:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoJfcTbWYAM8UQB?format=jpg&name=large
F22 or F35? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Someone make a gif of the missile detonating yet? Good close up of it getting hit.
Totally obliterated the hardware suite. Nice footage, though. Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. It could have bottles of extra helium or hydrogen onboard to keep the envelope pressurized in case of small leaks. Kharn |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:32:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:32:13 PM EDT
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That was entertaining at least, embarrassing for the country though.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:32:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:32:48 PM EDT
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China... Mission accomprished!
Biden admin.. We saved America from the threat! |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:32:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Someone make a gif of the missile detonating yet? Good close up of it getting hit.
Totally obliterated the hardware suite. Nice footage, though. Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. I'll let the real pilots talk more if they want to though but I don't think most people understand how big this fucking thing was. Here's a hint, my house is smaller. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 4:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Someone make a gif of the missile detonating yet? Good close up of it getting hit.
Totally obliterated the hardware suite. Nice footage, though. Yeah, I'm not an expert on shooting down Chinese spy balloons, but I would have thought a fighter with a 20mm cannon would have deflated it and it would have fallen relatively slowly with the balloon creating a bunch of drag acting as sort of a parachute. Certainly would have suffered some damage at impact but probably wouldn't be destroyed. You're absolutely correct. I and others mentioned just that, early on in this thread. The precision isn't as great as a seeker head, but at least you've got a good chance of not completely destroying the hardware. |
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