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Posted: 4/12/2022 11:53:32 AM EDT
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The abutment should be sitting on piles/a deep foundation. I think the broken concrete is just to prevent erosion.
In theory it could be a problem, but there would have to be a whole lot of erosion first. Edit: skimmed too fast. One of the piles is actually exposed. Yes, I would call the DOT. |
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I believe that concrete is only for erosion control so not an immediate concern.
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Quoted: Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone? https://i.imgur.com/0tpDDaj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AjewOeJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QzgGBMT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/83r65tO.jpg View Quote Just erosion protection. We use stone / crushed concrete around here unless it’s really steep. Your actually bridge pillars could be as deep as 50-60 feet into the ground, depending on the design / specs / etc. |
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I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't.
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Quoted: I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/351202/Untitled_png-2346590.JPG View Quote Being at an angle, the size, the location and how it’s joined, makes me think that wasn’t actually part of the bridge. Maybe something from an old bridge they tore out and just buried on site. |
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Only call if you are bored an like to talk to people who have no control and don't give a shit.
If you can get a local news station to run a hit piece on highway funds being siphoned for migrant housing you might get some traction. |
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Quoted: Only call if you are bored an like to talk to people who have no control and don't give a shit. If you can get a local news station to run a hit piece on highway funds being siphoned for migrant housing you might get some traction. View Quote Local I like the sound of that. |
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Quoted: If you see something.... View Quote Walked out there and sure enough, looks like someone smacked the mail boxes/power pole then took off. The power pole looked fine in my opinion, just some scratches, but I don't work for the power company and they must have caused it to rock or something because my power blipped. Called the power company and let them know what I heard and what their pole looks like. I expressed that it just looked like surface scratches and I didn't think the pole was really damaged, but they were out here ricky tick to check their shit. |
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Looks like the entire bridge shifted back 3+ ft.
What does the other side look like? |
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Quoted: Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone? View Quote So, you already know the answer to your question. What did you do, OP? |
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Quoted: So, you already know the answer to your question. What did you do, OP? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Was exploring on the motorcycle and saw this under a bridge for a major highway. Should I call someone? So, you already know the answer to your question. What did you do, OP? I just wanted to have a good time. That was all. |
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Quoted: The abutment should be sitting on piles/a deep foundation. I think the broken concrete is just to prevent erosion. In theory it could be a problem, but there would have to be a whole lot of erosion first. Edit: skimmed too fast. One of the piles is actually exposed. Yes, I would call the DOT. View Quote It looks like it's getting pretty close to washing out the road surface and barrier too. Probably a lot closer to that than to the bridge supports failing. |
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Quoted: I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/351202/Untitled_png-2346590.JPG View Quote You mean the gap under the ledge? Not a big deal in itself. The horizontal member is supported by piles under it (like the one sticking out, except that doesn't look like one of the ones for that piece), and the piles are mostly held up by static pressure from the soil on their sides. |
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Eventually erosion will eat away at the soil and expose the foundations. That won' t happen for a long time, but yes it does need to be fixed. Does your DOT have a BRINSAP program? Ha. Just noticed you're in Texas. Look up your local TxDOT maintenance office and get in contact with the bridge department. Send them the pics and they will inspect it, or get the railroad to do it. Not sure who's responsible for it exactly.
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That's what happens when you let water get under concrete... it creates voids and the pretty concrete slopes collapse. The bridge generally is carried down to bedrock, so unless you're seeing cracks you can fit your hand in i wouldn't worry too much. It wouldn't be the first bridge to use angled piers at the bridge abutments, so I wouldn't worry too much about it being exposed. Having said that if you're worried call the RR and highway dept and they'll both have a meeting on site and it'll get put in the reapir plan for circa 2030. Both the RR and highway dept inspect bridges regularly and ignore the need for maintenance. |
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Quoted: I am just a guy but....this part seems like a problem. Seems like it used to be supported by earth but now isn't. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/351202/Untitled_png-2346590.JPG View Quote Unplanned structural sunshine under what appears to be a structural footing is not a good thing. |
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Maybe we should create a program/source of funding to replace and repair bridges...
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It's supposed to look like that. Kind of like when people want 'distressed' cabinets in their new house so you take a chain to the doors and wipe some off-color paint over them.
In this case it's supposed to help you get used to a post-apocalyptic USA. |
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Doesn’t look like an area that gets noticed too often. I’d call.
I did something similar on a box culvert that was 80% clogged. They got right on it. (Meaning six months later) |
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It's the result of deferred maintenance, and poor design. It's not an immediate threat, but continued erosion could make it a serious problem. BTDT many times.
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It isn't, until it is.
In all seriousness, there is a pier showing, so Id guess the whole thing is supported by piers. Probably won't be a problem for a long time. The broken up slabs are just there to carry water away, they aren't really structural. |
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Quoted: Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Watch out for railroad police, trespasser. Is it still trespassing if you’re a sovereign citizen traveler? You should definitely fuck around and find out. |
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Quoted: It isn't, until it is. In all seriousness, there is a pier showing, so Id guess the whole thing is supported by piers. Probably won't be a problem for a long time. The broken up slabs are just there to carry water away, they aren't really structural. View Quote Without them though, you're gonna see a lot more rapid erosion. I think this is one of those times where an ounce of prevention is way better than a pound of cure. |
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Quoted: It's supposed to look like that. Kind of like when people want 'distressed' cabinets in their new house so you take a chain to the doors and wipe some off-color paint over them. In this case it's supposed to help you get used to a post-apocalyptic USA. View Quote Best to ease into these sorts of things. |
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Is it a big problem? Absolutely not! Not for me, anyway. Because I'm not going over the bridge.
Seriously, if you want some action, don't bother with the DOT. Send the photos (and your concerns) to your Congressman. Be sure to mention how the bridge seems to have dropped a few inches in recent weeks. |
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It won't be a problem until the bridge collapses, then everyone will be blaming the inspectors.
I would say that is a big problem, not a civil engineer. |
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Keep Quiet and tell nobody
set up game cameras record footage when bridge collapses sell video to news media profit |
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Bridges are a kind of metaphor for government. Neglected, it breaks down and blocks progress
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Quoted: It's the result of deferred maintenance, and poor design. It's not an immediate threat, but continued erosion could make it a serious problem. BTDT many times. View Quote Muddy run off water and outflows indicate soil being removed from under the slab. Lack of vertical concrete or sheet pile cut off walls under the slab, burrowing mammals, broken drainage system and most likely not doing any maintenance grouting under the slab all contributed. |
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Quoted: Attached File In blue: I don't know how you guys do it there, but all the bridge pilings I've seen driven up here are driven vertically. That looks to be an issue to me, but I could be wrong. Also, could be camera angle giving an optical illusion. Either way, that shit should not be exposed like that. View Quote It depends what it is doing. It may be to resist lateral movement. It is also more likely to be part of the abutment than the bridge. |
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<< Bridge Inspector sitting in a inspection training class.
This thread should be pretty interesting. |
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