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Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:44:31 AM EDT
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Yeah, that surprised me too. Not what I expected coming out of A24.

Could be dogshit, who knows. Not going to make any predictions until I see it.

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Looks very conventional like something with Gerard Butler in it.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:51:58 AM EDT
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Wealthy western liberals have grown up in such comfort and ease that they can't comprehend the horror of any major break down in society so this film will be laughable at best.  

Plus, this is going to be pure leftists anti-conservative propaganda.   If you want to sit through the equivalent of a two hour lecture on how evil you are then by all means go see it.   I'll pass.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:03:41 PM EDT
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Did I hear that right in the trailer, California and Texas secedes and I assume are the ones in rebellion? How in the world would, even in fantasy land Hollywood, would that happen? Cali is extreme far left, and Texas is well... Texas, no way that changes overnight. That alone seems a bit much for the viewer to accept.

Edit to add: Right at the start the narration mentions "19 states seceded" and "western forces and Florida alliance" and at the 33 second mark is the mention of western forces being Texas and California.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:09:06 PM EDT
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Did I hear that right in the trailer, California and Texas secedes and I assume are the ones in rebellion? How in the world would, even in fantasy land Hollywood, would that happen?
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A Hispanic uprising. Otherwise, red California (they do have red counties) successfully revolting against blue california first, with Texas backing those rebels.

FWIW, I think they just paired them up so that contemporary Americans wouldn't accuse the film of political bias.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:17:42 PM EDT
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A Hispanic uprising. Otherwise, red California (they do have red counties) successfully revolting against blue california first, with Texas backing those rebels.

FWIW, I think they just paired them up so that contemporary Americans wouldn't accuse the film of political bias.
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Yeah that's about the only conceivable scenario. There is a reversed reflection of a national map with TX and CA in blue, with several north central/western states in red and a swath in white along with some southern states also possibly in red.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:20:31 PM EDT
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There are some unverified rumors/leaks that the national split isnt over rep/dem or race, one leak says there is some sci-fi aspect where near future tech or invention that causes unrest and the split.

Also it says president Ron Swanson is on his 3rd term so that might be part of it if hes going the dictator route.


Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:22:18 PM EDT
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Trailer looked dumber then hell.

"Shoot journalists on site in the capital."

California, Texas, and Florida teaming up?

Nick Offerman?

Skipping this one.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:27:30 PM EDT
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And you simply can't have a thread titled ' Civil War ' without mentioning the greatest American General Officer of all time. One who was touched by God.

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3: Now William Tecumseh Sherman is blind
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:30:37 PM EDT
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And you simply can't have a thread titled ' Civil War ' without mentioning the greatest American General Officer of all time. One who was touched by God.

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You mistakenly posted the wrong photo.



No one has ever torn down a statue of the guy you posted because he still made them fearful.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:30:59 PM EDT
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Was that Kirsten Dunst in the trailer?

She got old.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:31:30 PM EDT
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Florida alliance master race checking in!

More than cool with Texas as our ally, but WTF is this shit with California?
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:31:55 PM EDT
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I’m cautiously optimistic but have no idea what to think.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:33:15 PM EDT
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double tap
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:37:04 PM EDT
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And you simply can't have a thread titled ' Civil War ' without mentioning the greatest American General Officer of all time. One who was touched by God.

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Fuck.  Here it comes. Same shit. Every damn time.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:37:06 PM EDT
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Screen cap of the map reflection they show at about the 40 second mark in the trailer. Shows TX and CA in Blue, a number of states in Red and a swath of states in between in white (neutral or haven't taken sides?)

Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:44:07 PM EDT
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There are some unverified rumors/leaks that the national split isnt over rep/dem or race, one leak says there is some sci-fi aspect where near future tech or invention that causes unrest and the split.

Also it says president Ron Swanson is on his 3rd term so that might be part of it if hes going the dictator route.


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Kind of like the left saying from day one that Trump isn't going to leave office? I'm still in the wait for reviews camp before I spend any money on the movie. Wouldn't surprise me at all based off the director's words that they try to claim some kind of sci-fi reason causing the break up while showing it's the right wingers who are really the bad guys to deflect from it being a "political message".
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:48:25 PM EDT
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they're just up there to keep the hood ratz from stealing the copper. only have to worry about hi points
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:48:53 PM EDT
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Wealthy western liberals have grown up in such comfort and ease that they can't comprehend the horror of any major break down in society so this film will be laughable at best.  

Plus, this is going to be pure leftists anti-conservative propaganda.   If you want to sit through the equivalent of a two hour lecture on how evil you are then by all means go see it.   I'll pass.
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If you watched the trailer, there is literally a scene describing exactly what you're complaining about.

A liberal retailer work at some small fancy boutique type store saying "We're...just like...trying to stay out of it" when the guy mentions the war going on outside.

The scene is mocking the out-of-touch liberals living in their bubble.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:54:06 PM EDT
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If you watched the trailer, there is literally a scene describing exactly what you're complaining about.

A liberal retailer work at some small fancy boutique type store saying "We're...just like...trying to stay out" when the guy mentions the war going on outside.

The scene is mocking the out-of-touch liberals living in their bubble.
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I didn't get that at all. I thought they were just depicting the reality of the situation,  which is that most people would just be neutral and go about their lives as best as they can. Every man, woman and child isn't just going to pick up an AK and start slotting people they're politically opposed to. Many people in the Civil War, on both sides, fought begrudgingly. The Irish didn't want to fight for the liberation of blacks. They rioted against the draft.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:54:15 PM EDT
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If you watched the trailer, there is literally a scene describing exactly what you're complaining about.

A liberal retailer work at some small fancy boutique type store saying "We're...just like...trying to stay out of it" when the guy mentions the war going on outside.

The scene is mocking the out-of-touch liberals living in their bubble.
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I hope you're right, I'm just too cynical about anything Hollywood produces these days to give them any benefit of doubt.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:54:30 PM EDT
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Yeah, that surprised me too. Not what I expected coming out of A24.

Could be dogshit, who knows. Not going to make any predictions until I see it.

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This doesn't look like your typical A24 movie


Yeah, that surprised me too. Not what I expected coming out of A24.

Could be dogshit, who knows. Not going to make any predictions until I see it.

I saw an article a couple months ago about how A24 wants to expand into more mainstream movies. I'm a total A24 nerd, especially for their weird horror stuff, but I don't think I ever seen a movie I didn't like that they were involved with.
https://www.vulture.com/2023/10/a24-action-movies-ip.html

A24   the auteur-focused studio behind such films/classic Halloween costumes as Pearl, The Lighthouse, and Everything Everywhere All at Once   is looking to diversify. By becoming the same as all the other studios. The Wrap is reporting that A24 is looking for "action and big IP projects" as part of a new strategy "deemphasizing the traditional character/auteur-driven dramas" the studio has made previously. A24 became the first studio in Oscars history to win the big six categories (all the acting awards, plus Best Picture and Best Director) last year, but does that equal big buckets of cash in a Scrooge McDuck-style vault? Apparently not. In pursuit of their Scrooge McDuck money pit dreams, A24 will be "widening the aperture" of their offerings   giving people cinema about generational trauma, but also movies with shit blowing up. Or, in the case of Everything Everywhere All at Once, both.






Link Posted: 12/13/2023 12:55:53 PM EDT
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I didn't get that at all. I thought they were just depicting the reality of the situation,  which is that most people would just be neutral and go about their lives as best as they can. Every man, woman and child isn't just going to pick up an AK and start slotting people they're politically opposed to. Many people in the Civil War, on both sides, fought begrudgingly. The Irish didn't want to fight for the liberation of blacks. They rioted against the draft.
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Equally possible, if not more probable. Combine that with them not being able to answer what kind of Americans they are seems to indicate that theme.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:01:07 PM EDT
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Yeah that's about the only conceivable scenario. There is a reversed reflection of a national map with TX and CA in blue, with several north central/western states in red and a swath in white along with some southern states also possibly in red.
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A Hispanic uprising. Otherwise, red California (they do have red counties) successfully revolting against blue california first, with Texas backing those rebels.

FWIW, I think they just paired them up so that contemporary Americans wouldn't accuse the film of political bias.

Yeah that's about the only conceivable scenario. There is a reversed reflection of a national map with TX and CA in blue, with several north central/western states in red and a swath in white along with some southern states also possibly in red.
Possible scenarios for CA and TX (and FL) alliance:
  • .gov taking all imports, tariffs, state produced resources etc for the other states under some guise of emergency need)-leaving nothing for CA/TX/FL states (my 1st choice)
  • Cut off immigrant funding/support-states on their own
  • gerrymandering or some variation/Stripping away electoral votes and allocating them to states that lean towards incumbent (2nd choice)

Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:07:05 PM EDT
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I appreciate the fact they came up with some fictional scenario and didn't try to shoehorn it into current events.  Looks promising, will watch.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:16:28 PM EDT
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Now the question is: is this predictive programming…?
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:25:47 PM EDT
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Ahh ya think?

Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:33:27 PM EDT
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Screen cap of the map reflection they show at about the 40 second mark in the trailer. Shows TX and CA in Blue, a number of states in Red and a swath of states in between in white (neutral or haven't taken sides?)

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Where in this image do you see any red at all?  Did I just go color-blind???
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:41:36 PM EDT
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Trailer looked dumber then hell.

"Shoot journalists on site in the capital."

California, Texas, and Florida teaming up?

Nick Offerman?

Skipping this one.
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3 of the top 5 states with highest GDP, sustain any type war takes money ask Ukraine.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:44:45 PM EDT
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Did I hear that right in the trailer, California and Texas secedes and I assume are the ones in rebellion? How in the world would, even in fantasy land Hollywood, would that happen? Cali is extreme far left, and Texas is well... Texas, no way that changes overnight. That alone seems a bit much for the viewer to accept.

Edit to add: Right at the start the narration mentions "19 states seceded" and "western forces and Florida alliance" and at the 33 second mark is the mention of western forces being Texas and California.
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Why is it so hard to understand that most movies are made to be entertaining, unless you watch a documentary. Did you watch Ironman and complain about how it wasn't realistic also? How much complaining do you do when you watch porn? Sheesh.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:48:53 PM EDT
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Where in this image do you see any red at all?  Did I just go color-blind???
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Watch the trailer its more evident there in the several seconds that reversed state map image reflected off a window or glass apparently is on screen. The screen cap is one single frame so the colors may be off.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:53:09 PM EDT
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I bet it's non-political in terms of todays red/blue debate but based on some sort of made-up grievance.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:54:58 PM EDT
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Watch the trailer its more evident there in the several seconds that reversed state map image reflected off a window or glass apparently is on screen. The screen cap is one single frame so the colors may be off.
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Where in this image do you see any red at all?  Did I just go color-blind???

Watch the trailer its more evident there in the several seconds that reversed state map image reflected off a window or glass apparently is on screen. The screen cap is one single frame so the colors may be off.



I just tabbed through every frame with that reflection.  There's no red, but I suppose how you could assume you're seeing red, distorted through reflection\referaction, but I think that's more of an effect of being "trained" for so long looking at political maps using red and blue.  Or, again, I've had a stroke.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:56:26 PM EDT
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There were a lot of heroes on both sides.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 1:58:34 PM EDT
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Cool poster. I don’t think that arm can hold the sandbags though.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:02:25 PM EDT
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Why is it so hard that movies are made to be entertaining, unless you want a documentary. Did you watch Iron and complain about how it wasn't realistic also? How much complaining do you do when you watch porn? Sheesh.
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LOL are you involved in the movie? Seems you are a bit upset.

People always complain when movie plots/storylines don't make any sense. I assume the movie's story line will probably explain how the country got to the point where TX, CA, FL and a number of other states are suddenly on the same side rebelling. But from the trailer it made me go WTF how does that happen in the current polarized political environment that is according to some already in a form of civil war.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:02:46 PM EDT
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The Texas/California alliance? Is this the 2nd Mexican revolution?
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:06:07 PM EDT
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I enjoy this type of survival/apocalypse movie and it looks like it has a lot of potential.  Really hope we don't end up with another political panderfest like Don't Look Up.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:07:34 PM EDT
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I'm American!


"What kind of American are you?"  So accurate these days.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:09:49 PM EDT
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The problem with movie posters and trailers is they no longer have anything to do with the actual movie anymore.  But I am really hoping this movie goes the way I want it to. So much so that I am jerking off watching the trailer on repeat.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:12:19 PM EDT
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So the south is gonna get their asses kicked again?
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LOL are you involved in the movie? Seems you are a bit upset.

People always complain when movie plots/storylines don't make any sense. I assume the movie's story line will probably explain how the country got to the point where TX, CA, FL and a number of other states are suddenly on the same side rebelling. But from the trailer it made me go WTF how does that happen in the current polarized political environment that is according to some already in a form of civil war.
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Not involved at all, the autism here just drives me nuts. Imagine if all this autism focus went to good things like fixing the country.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:26:27 PM EDT
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Was that Kirsten Dunst in the trailer?

She got old.
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Yes. Her husband IRL is the guy in camo with the red glasses and AR.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:34:11 PM EDT
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Looks pretty good
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Yes. Her husband IRL is the guy in camo with the red glasses and AR.
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Was that Kirsten Dunst in the trailer?

She got old.

Yes. Her husband IRL is the guy in camo with the red glasses and AR.


At least it looks like Fat Damon lost a little weight.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:38:21 PM EDT
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3 of the top 5 states with highest GDP, sustain any type war takes money ask Ukraine.
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Controlling a Pacific coast state would be beneficial to receiving military aid, as well.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:41:42 PM EDT
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Controlling a Pacific coast state would be beneficial to receiving military aid, as well.
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3 of the top 5 states with highest GDP, sustain any type war takes money ask Ukraine.
Controlling a Pacific coast state would be beneficial to receiving military aid, as well.


Between Tn, AL, and GA there's a ton of weapon manufacturing not to mention all the military assets like Anniston.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:41:46 PM EDT
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Glad I'm not the only one who thought that!  
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I would hate to be the guy carrying those sand bags all the way up there.


Glad I'm not the only one who thought that!  



It wouldn't be so bad. Just carry them up empty and fill them at the top.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 2:48:57 PM EDT
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Eh, I'll watch it for free.

Better than zombies at least.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 3:05:44 PM EDT
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No fucking chance.

Yet, that would be a compelling story worth putting in print or film
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 4:07:39 PM EDT
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I can't think of anything Alex Garland related that I didn't like.

So I'm hopeful.
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