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Posted: 10/21/2015 3:01:36 AM EST
So the best thing about being 21 is getting a concealed.
I want a PPS the Mr says shield.
Which do you think would be better?
Keep in mind I am 5'8 and 122 ibs so anything you recommend to conceal should be on the smaller side.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:02:00 AM EST
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First!
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:08:46 AM EST
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Hard to say what would be "better" for you.
But my Wife is 5ft 3in 115 lbs and a Shield 9mm just disappears on her.
She also carries a G19 and a SIG 1911 Carry Scorpion
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:10:33 AM EST
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Hate to agree with Smiley but..............Shield.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:11:23 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:15:13 AM EST
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I knew I should have registered that username.

Hi Mrs. Smiley!

I vote Ruger LC9s.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:15:41 AM EST
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I would suggest the LC9.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:16:19 AM EST
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Do not listen to this guy, he likes wieners.  
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:16:43 AM EST
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I am seeing a trend. LOL.
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Hi Mrs. Smiley!

I vote Ruger LC9s.



Do not listen to this guy, he likes wieners.  


You say that like it is a bad thing....
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:17:28 AM EST
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LOL
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:18:01 AM EST
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What's the trigger like on the LC9?
I fucking hated the LCP
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:18:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:20:28 AM EST
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Little Pony recently got the LCP Custom. I have fired it a little bit. The trigger is very nice.

My LC9S has a very nice trigger as well.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:21:29 AM EST
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So the best thing about being 21 is getting a concealed.

I want a PPS the Mr says shield.

Which do you think would be better?

Keep in mind I am 5'8 and 122 ibs so anything you recommend to conceal should be on the smaller side.

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Chick I used to date is 5'11, weighs the same an conceal carries an XDM9, even in dresses.

 
Don't think firearm size has to limit what you carry.







Best bet is to find a place that rents out what options you're looking for, and find something you shoot well, and enjoy shooting then work around concealing that.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:21:39 AM EST
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LC9 trigger has a long pull

The LC9s trigger is [borat]very nice[/borat]
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:22:46 AM EST
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I'm with Smiley and SD, the shield would be a fine selection.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:24:10 AM EST
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How do you intend to carry this gun?

Purse? If so, Glock 26 or Glock 19 depending on purse size.

On your body? Whatever the biggest one you can tolerate is. Shield (without thumb safety), Glock 43, Walther PPS are all good choices. Ruger LCP if something even smaller is required.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:25:49 AM EST
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Have not owned or ever fired a shield but from what I have heard the LC9S trigger is better. Again, just what I have heard and knowing how smooth my lc9s trigger is.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:28:05 AM EST
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Go to the next hometown forum shoot. You can try the g43 and PPS I have. Plus smiley is trying to steal my C5L.

I vote g43.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:28:15 AM EST
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I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:28:59 AM EST
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I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.


The shield trigger is terrible IMO
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:29:41 AM EST
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The 43 is a really good choice honestly.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:29:53 AM EST
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P238 or P938.

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Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:31:17 AM EST
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The shield trigger is terrible IMO
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I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.


The shield trigger is terrible IMO



No, it is not too bad. i was surprised how well it shoots. Very nice trigger.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:32:23 AM EST
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The 43 is a really good choice honestly.
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Go to the next hometown forum shoot. You can try the g43 and PPS I have. Plus smiley is trying to steal my C5L.

I vote g43.

The 43 is a really good choice honestly.


I did the disconnect and $0.25 trigger job and it's awesome now.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:32:36 AM EST
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I like 238s, but I have seen enough 938s with issues to hesitate in recommending them.

I also won't recommend a gun with a thumb safety. By the time someone is experienced enough to depend on using a gun with a thumb safety under stress, they won't need my advice.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:40:06 AM EST
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Kahr PM9
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:41:24 AM EST
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How do you intend to carry this gun?

Purse? If so, Glock 26 or Glock 19 depending on purse size.

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I plan on carrying 3 o'clock. So it'd have to meld with my hip. I also want it to be smaller because SOs concealed is full size and the grip digs into my hip. It's about g19 size. I wanted to steal his and make him get a new one but it won't work for me.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:42:20 AM EST
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Whens the next shoot?



Aren't you the official planner now?



 
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:42:39 AM EST
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When is the next one?
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:43:15 AM EST
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I vote g43.




When is the next one?


GET OUT OF MY HEAD



 
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:45:26 AM EST
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I plan on carrying 3 o'clock. So it'd have to meld with my hip. I also want it to be smaller because SOs concealed is full size and the grip digs into my hip. It's about g19 size. I wanted to steal his and make him get a new one but it won't work for me.
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Upon newly disclosed information Taurus Curve is what you seek .
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:46:05 AM EST
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I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.
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Have not owned or ever fired a shield but from what I have heard the LC9S trigger is better. Again, just what I have heard and knowing how smooth my lc9s trigger is.



I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.


So what you're saying is that you're not a fan of the shield, right?
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:46:14 AM EST
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I plan on carrying 3 o'clock. So it'd have to meld with my hip. I also want it to be smaller because SOs concealed is full size and the grip digs into my hip. It's about g19 size. I wanted to steal his and make him get a new one but it won't work for me.




Upon newly disclosed information Taurus Curve is what you seek .


This is a Taurus free house.



 
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:48:21 AM EST
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Go to the next hometown forum shoot. You can try the g43 and PPS I have. Plus smiley is trying to steal my C5L.

I vote g43.

Whens the next shoot?

Aren't you the official planner now?
 

I think the last one fell flat on its face. I was out of town and left the planning up to others. You guys could always meet me at TCGC if the HTF shoot doesn't happen soon. It might get too rainy.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:49:32 AM EST
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I plan on carrying 3 o'clock. So it'd have to meld with my hip. I also want it to be smaller because SOs concealed is full size and the grip digs into my hip. It's about g19 size. I wanted to steal his and make him get a new one but it won't work for me.


Upon newly disclosed information Taurus Curve is what you seek .


That's gonna be a no.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 3:50:23 AM EST
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The shield trigger is terrible IMO
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Have not owned or ever fired a shield but from what I have heard the LC9S trigger is better. Again, just what I have heard and knowing how smooth my lc9s trigger is.



I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.


The shield trigger is terrible IMO



This, unless you install the Apex kit. Otherwise get a G43.


ETA- I went shooting yesterday and shot my Shield (I do have the Apex kit- not the whole trigger) better than my 43, but I still like my 43. Both have Trijicon HD's. I don't know... maybe it's because I use a Glock 17 at work and have a few others, but I would sell the Shield before the 43.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 4:00:25 AM EST
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Go to the next hometown forum shoot. You can try the g43 and PPS I have. Plus smiley is trying to steal my C5L.





I vote g43.



Whens the next shoot?





Aren't you the official planner now?


 



I think the last one fell flat on its face. I was out of town and left the planning up to others. You guys could always meet me at TCGC if the HTF shoot doesn't happen soon. It might get too rainy.



If that's the case, then you should really take the title as official planner. Both the ones you set up went off great, I mean besides you getting shot
You keep inviting me so I'll take you up on going to TCGC
There is also smaller pistol range I might take her that's in Delta Park. They have some rental guns there, so that might be good for her to shop around. Place is fucking crazy expensive though





 
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 4:08:24 AM EST
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Glock 43 and I'd also check out a j-frame smith.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 4:58:57 AM EST
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XDS 9mm or XD9sc
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:06:38 AM EST
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Sig Sauer P938

Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:07:28 AM EST
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Do NOT carry a striker-fired pistol that doesn't have an external safety in a purse - even in a holster, unless the holster is integrated into the purse.  And I know you have more than one purse, OP.












That makes all of the Glocks, as well as the PPS unacceptable.  The Shield is GTG, as is the LC9 or LC9s.  The LC9s Pro version does not have an external safety (I don't count trigger safeties as 'external') so that disqualifies it for purse carry, IMHO.
 









Keep in mind that the Rugers have a magazine disconnect 'feature'.  It can be disabled, but of course that voids the warranty, and sets you up for a bad day in court, when the D/A asks: "Mrs. Smiley, why did you disable a safety function on your murder machine?"




 







I gave my LC380 to my Mom, and I don't worry about the mag disconnect, since she will never be in a situation where it will affect the outcome of a self-defense encounter.










YMMV




 
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:15:21 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:25:23 AM EST
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I have both the Shield and 43 and I prefer the 43. Both are good choices. The PPS is also fine but doesn't feel quite as good either.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:27:07 AM EST
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Shield
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:41:06 AM EST
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This
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:42:06 AM EST
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There are so many good choices, so few of them are on the list. A big question is how are you planning on carrying? On body go smaller, purse carry why not a fullsize/compact glock or CZ? What's the budget? Important decisions shouldn't be based on money but welcome to reality.  What ammo does Smilley currently reload/stock for his guns. Getting another caliber when you already have a large stack of ammo isn't always smart. What are his guns? Mags that interchange are always a plus. What's you current shooting level? Buying a match type pistol for a "my target looks like it was a long range shotgun target" shooter isn't as good an idea as buying something really cheap to shoot so you can work on that control issue. Where are you on the tolerates recoil scale? A small 9mm is rather snappy. The micro 380s are as well. I've started several women on a KelTec P32. Easy to carry, low recoil, cheap, accurate, and function reliably. My wife carries hers in her body and a compact CZ 75b in her purse. She is an excellent shot (possibly better than I, high praise) and decided the CZ was hers. She tried several guns before staking her claim on the CZ. I recommend you do the same.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:44:43 AM EST
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I bought a PPS 9mm when I turned 21.  I've carried it for about 7 years now. It's a great gun but I think I'm going to sell it and get a glock 43. I also carry a g19 and g26 depending on how I'm dressed and my biggest problem with the PPS is the mag release.  
Back when it was my only carry pistol it wasn't much or a problem, but now that I have so many other pistols with a normal mag releases I find myself getting tripped up on the PPS when every second counts.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:49:20 AM EST
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Go shoot them all. Try them on if you can. I really like the G43. That being said there are some other good choices. Don't let anyone pick your gun.
Link Posted: 10/21/2015 5:55:18 AM EST
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I have shot both, so I have an opinion, Shield. Fact not feels.


The shield trigger is terrible IMO


That's what I've read.  

Of all those, the PPS, shield and G43 felt the best in my hands.  With the recent drop in price I'd lean toward PPS.  PPS has a nice trigger compared to the others.
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