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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:16:09 AM EST
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Help me understand - are you an 88er or just pro Russia? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These things happen when you violate other countries airspace as a rule, and launch attacks on the lawful government. I could post the same thing, and change the Nationality, but I don't think those posts would last long. I believe the average American is better served with a good relation with Russia than a hostile one. I believe Putin is rational and can be engaged with strength to strength. I believe that we Americans have no fight with the Syrians or even Iranians and they are not threatening to us. You tell me. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:16:12 AM EST
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Help me understand - are you an 88er or just pro Russia? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These things happen when you violate other countries airspace as a rule, and launch attacks on the lawful government. I could post the same thing, and change the Nationality, but I don't think those posts would last long. Ba'athist ideology was spawned by an adoration of Nazi Germany. The Ba'ath Party was National Socialism, but for Arabs not Germans. @bland85 Do you still support Assad as the rightful ruler of Syria? Yes or No |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:16:51 AM EST
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Lets find out. Ba'athist ideology was spawned by an adoration of Nazi Germany. The Ba'ath Party was National Socialism, but for Arabs not Germans. @bland85 Do you still support Assad as the rightful ruler of Syria? Yes or No Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These things happen when you violate other countries airspace as a rule, and launch attacks on the lawful government. I could post the same thing, and change the Nationality, but I don't think those posts would last long. Ba'athist ideology was spawned by an adoration of Nazi Germany. The Ba'ath Party was National Socialism, but for Arabs not Germans. @bland85 Do you still support Assad as the rightful ruler of Syria? Yes or No |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:17:28 AM EST
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Israeli reporters with ties to the military keep saying the event in the north is ongoing, yet residents in the Golan were told things are back to normal. Sounds to me like they're implying that more details, currently censored, are forthcoming.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:17:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's debatable, personally I don't believe in Democracy. I certainly don't believe in Democracy in the Middle East. So with that in mind, I do exactly what Assad is doing to keep myself from being Quaddafi or Saddam. It did work, and it was a better more stable region when it was Assad, Nasser, Quaddafi and Saddam than it is now. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:19:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pro-American. I believe the average American is better served with a good relation with Russia than a hostile one. I believe Putin is rational and can be engaged with strength to strength. I believe that we Americans have no fight with the Syrians or even Iranians and they are not threatening to us. You tell me. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:22:04 AM EST
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Turns out 15'ers are derpier than 13'ers.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:23:48 AM EST
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This is my last response contributing to the thread drift
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You do not believe in democracy but are pro America? Just what America do you believe in? Quote HistoryQuoted:
You do not believe in democracy but are pro America? Just what America do you believe in? Quoted:
You believe people should be controlled by goverment ? Not every political system works for every people. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:24:04 AM EST
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Come on guys, can we talk about whats happening in Israel instead of the purse swinging.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:25:57 AM EST
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Come on guys, can we talk about whats happening in Israel instead of the purse swinging. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:27:12 AM EST
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Well this is interesting.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:27:37 AM EST
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Come on guys, can we talk about whats happening in Israel instead of the purse swinging. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:28:14 AM EST
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When did you stop beating your wife? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These things happen when you violate other countries airspace as a rule, and launch attacks on the lawful government. I could post the same thing, and change the Nationality, but I don't think those posts would last long. Ba'athist ideology was spawned by an adoration of Nazi Germany. The Ba'ath Party was National Socialism, but for Arabs not Germans. @bland85 Do you still support Assad as the rightful ruler of Syria? Yes or No |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:28:40 AM EST
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Syrian official is reporting multiple Israeli aircraft are down, I have seen reports of one F16 - Confirmed and one Apache - Unconfirmed.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:28:56 AM EST
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This is my last response contributing to the thread drift I believe in America, restored, without the 17th Amendment, and Qualified Franchise. I don't believe in 18 and a pulse. Theres a world of political thought between Modern Western Liberal Democracies and Absolute Despotism. Not every political system works for every people. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:29:04 AM EST
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That's debatable, personally I don't believe in Democracy. I certainly don't believe in Democracy in the Middle East. So with that in mind, I do exactly what Assad is doing to keep myself from being Quaddafi or Saddam. It did work, and it was a better more stable region when it was Assad, Nasser, Quaddafi and Saddam than it is now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: And there's something wrong with the thought of censoring posts that espouse the murder of Americans on a patriotic American gun forum? You're clearly here to push an agenda by even making that comparison. What, you want ISIS or Obama's Mythical "Moderate" Islamists in charge? ETA: My position is the position that results in 0 Dead Americans. Tell me how you and your 15 are the best option for your towns 100. In what universe is that going to work? Hint, benevolent dictators work when they represent the majority, not the tiny minority. I certainly don't believe in Democracy in the Middle East. So with that in mind, I do exactly what Assad is doing to keep myself from being Quaddafi or Saddam. It did work, and it was a better more stable region when it was Assad, Nasser, Quaddafi and Saddam than it is now. Before you start playing SECSTATE ask how Assad's daddy took power, why he was successful, what kept the peace for so long, and what changed, especially in the 90s, that sealed the fate of any Alawite attempting to control Syria. I know for a fact you can't answer any of these answers. Like I know without googling you couldn't tell me who created the modern state of Syria, from where did it come, and how it took its shape. I bet you couldn't tell me current Assad's dad's name. Ba'athist were national socialists for Arabs. As long as they weren't white colonists they were supposed to be treated all the same, be they Sunni or Shia Muslim, Christan, etc. But ultimately Assad regime proved only loyal to their own tribe from their own ethnicity and told the rest of the country to deal with his oppression against them or his secret police would kill them. Same thing Saddam did (also a Ba'athist), same as Gaddafi (who practiced something similar). Now Assad's secret police are dead or hiding in Europe and there is no fucking way Sunni Arabs, or even Kurds would ever unite under Assad or any Alawite. So you keep wishing in one hand for peace under Assad, shitting in the other, see which fills up first. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:29:39 AM EST
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Losing an F16 and an Apache, if true, is a pretty serious development. It makes one wonder if the Syrians have been holding back on some of the prior Israeli strikes.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:29:41 AM EST
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Syrian official is reporting multiple Israeli aircraft are down, I have seen reports of one F16 - Confirmed and one Apache - Unconfirmed. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:29:49 AM EST
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"This is a serious Iranian attack on Israeli territory. Iran is dragging the region into a situation in which it doesn't know how it will end. We are prepared for a variety of incidents...whoever is responsible for this incident is the one who will pay the price."
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:30:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When two men that have at more than one point wished death upon each other join together to expose you as a Nazi, the chances are strong that you are not on the side of the allies.... |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:31:39 AM EST
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I hope the Apache is just hype. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:31:47 AM EST
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Reports of Israeli Reservists on Alert
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:32:32 AM EST
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The only thing I can find about Apaches is them hitting the Syrians. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:33:31 AM EST
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It's early so who knows fact from fiction on this. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:33:33 AM EST
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There are ongoing operations it would appear, if other pilots are down, I don't expect Israel to talk about it until they are picked up.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:34:02 AM EST
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"This is a serious Iranian attack on Israeli territory. Iran is dragging the region into a situation in which it doesn't know how it will end. We are prepared for a variety of incidents...whoever is responsible for this incident is the one who will pay the price." - IDF Spokesman Brigadier General Ronen Manelis If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:35:39 AM EST
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When did you stop beating your wife? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These things happen when you violate other countries airspace as a rule, and launch attacks on the lawful government. I could post the same thing, and change the Nationality, but I don't think those posts would last long. Ba'athist ideology was spawned by an adoration of Nazi Germany. The Ba'ath Party was National Socialism, but for Arabs not Germans. @bland85 Do you still support Assad as the rightful ruler of Syria? Yes or No You already stated before you believed "Assad is the best option in the Area." Now you've been made aware he's an Arab Nazi who went tribal in politics while relying on whopping ~15-20% of his country to have his back, while pissing off rest, who finally kicked off rebellion brewing for decades. So now that your knowledge is broadened, does your ignorant ass opinion change? |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:36:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where was the F-16 and Apache? If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:37:07 AM EST
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True, but I'd put more faith in the Israelis being able to keep their Apaches up than Syrian claims of knocking them down until it's confirmed. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:37:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where was the F-16 and Apache? If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:37:53 AM EST
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:38:05 AM EST
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That's debatable, personally I don't believe in Democracy. I certainly don't believe in Democracy in the Middle East. So with that in mind, I do exactly what Assad is doing to keep myself from being Quaddafi or Saddam. It did work, and it was a better more stable region when it was Assad, Nasser, Quaddafi and Saddam than it is now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: And there's something wrong with the thought of censoring posts that espouse the murder of Americans on a patriotic American gun forum? You're clearly here to push an agenda by even making that comparison. What, you want ISIS or Obama's Mythical "Moderate" Islamists in charge? ETA: My position is the position that results in 0 Dead Americans. Tell me how you and your 15 are the best option for your towns 100. In what universe is that going to work? Hint, benevolent dictators work when they represent the majority, not the tiny minority. I certainly don't believe in Democracy in the Middle East. So with that in mind, I do exactly what Assad is doing to keep myself from being Quaddafi or Saddam. It did work, and it was a better more stable region when it was Assad, Nasser, Quaddafi and Saddam than it is now. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:39:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pro-American. I believe the average American is better served with a good relation with Russia than a hostile one. I believe Putin is rational and can be engaged with strength to strength. I believe that we Americans have no fight with the Syrians or even Iranians and they are not threatening to us. You tell me. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pro-American. I believe the average American is better served with a good relation with Russia than a hostile one. I believe Putin is rational and can be engaged with strength to strength. I believe that we Americans have no fight with the Syrians or even Iranians and they are not threatening to us. You tell me. Russia looks out for Russia, not necessarily hostile, but it certainly does not have our interest at heart. Our saving grace is a strong leader, and someone that Putin is willing to deal with, rather than milquetoast leaders that he knows he could intimidate. Putin and by extension Russia can be bargained with, so I'll give you that. Americans have no fight with the Syrians or even Iranians and they are not threatening to us. This ruling class has the means, money, and ability to finance strikes against us that would make 9-11 pale in comparison. Why they haven't yet is that they are waiting for the perfect time, had Clinton/Sanders or another weak president been in office, they would be ready to strike. With a wild card in office, they are scared, Trump may very well be the only thing saving us from attacks, along with a strong military. The United States is a country that threatens EVERY principal that the Muslims believe in, from equal rights, to freedom of speech, and they will do whatever it takes to destroy us. If not through all out war, then by immigration and our willingness to allow their assimilation. To them, Sharia law will rule, and nothing else matters. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:39:50 AM EST
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This is my last response contributing to the thread drift I believe in America, restored, without the 17th Amendment, and Qualified Franchise. I don't believe in 18 and a pulse. Theres a world of political thought between Modern Western Liberal Democracies and Absolute Despotism. Not every political system works for every people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do not believe in democracy but are pro America? Just what America do you believe in? Quoted:
You believe people should be controlled by goverment ? Not every political system works for every people. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:39:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where was the F-16 and Apache? If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Where was the F-16 and Apache? If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. Quoted:
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:41:06 AM EST
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NO. Bland85 has issues with America. We need to sort this out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on guys, can we talk about whats happening in Israel instead of the purse swinging. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:41:22 AM EST
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:44:06 AM EST
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Where was the F-16 and Apache? If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"This is a serious Iranian attack on Israeli territory. Iran is dragging the region into a situation in which it doesn't know how it will end. We are prepared for a variety of incidents...whoever is responsible for this incident is the one who will pay the price." - IDF Spokesman Brigadier General Ronen Manelis If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:44:11 AM EST
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I'm off to bed, I'd prefer news over opinions in this thread...TIA.
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:46:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Am I Being Detained", the life story of Bland85 and the 3% Movement |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:47:16 AM EST
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When two men that have at more than one point wished death upon each other join together to expose you as a Nazi, the chances are strong that you are not on the side of the allies.... 
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:47:24 AM EST
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I'm off to bed, I'd prefer news over opinions in this thread...TIA. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:47:50 AM EST
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I'm off to bed, I'd prefer news over opinions in this thread...TIA. We've cured all the ills of the world before noon, and spent the rest of the day fixing personal issues! |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:48:22 AM EST
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I'm off to bed, I'd prefer news over opinions in this thread...TIA. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:51:05 AM EST
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You're ignorant or deceitful. Israelis went north because their airspace was violated by a Iranian drone, after shooting it down they went after the controller, at which point their strike aircraft were attacked by SAMs. You keep skipping this initial part. Because what? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"This is a serious Iranian attack on Israeli territory. Iran is dragging the region into a situation in which it doesn't know how it will end. We are prepared for a variety of incidents...whoever is responsible for this incident is the one who will pay the price." - IDF Spokesman Brigadier General Ronen Manelis If they were launched on in Syrian airspace... oh well. If they were launched on in Israeli airspace he has a point. If the Izzys shot down the drone while it was over Israel... whatever. If they chased it into Syria, and blew up some shit along the way, then got shot down, thats entirely different is it not? |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:53:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you'd be ok with the Soviets chasing a U2 and striking a base of ours in the 70s and 80s? If the Izzys shot down the drone while it was over Israel... whatever. If they chased it into Syria, and blew up some shit along the way, then got shot down, thats entirely different is it not? |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:54:23 AM EST
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When two men that have at more than one point wished death upon each other join together to expose you as a Nazi, the chances are strong that you are not on the side of the allies.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These things happen when you violate other countries airspace as a rule, and launch attacks on the lawful government. I could post the same thing, and change the Nationality, but I don't think those posts would last long. Ba'athist ideology was spawned by an adoration of Nazi Germany. The Ba'ath Party was National Socialism, but for Arabs not Germans. @bland85 Do you still support Assad as the rightful ruler of Syria? Yes or No |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:55:11 AM EST
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:57:31 AM EST
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Posted: 2/10/2018 1:57:58 AM EST
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