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Posted: 2/10/2018 3:49:55 AM EST

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We really need to stop repeating this. Pan Arab unity = Ba'athist Arab nationalistic socialism = about 30 good years in Syria, 10 in Iraq before the majority populations getting fucked over by typical Arab tribal corruption caused nations to fracture. In Iraq, the Ba'athist controlling things were Sunni under Saddam, he fucked the Shia over bad enough that he essentially forever destroyed Iraq doing so much to try to keep them in check after. In Syria, once papa Assad took over the Ba'ath govt it became Alawite, specifically their tribe running it and being typical corrupt as fuck tribal dictator who managed to piss off his majority, who were Sunni Arabs.

Both Saddam and Assad courted religion nuts on their own side. When the Sunni revival started in the early 90s, Saddam started his Faith campaign, promoting religious piety, hajibs are back, religious schools catering to Wahhabists/Salafists spring up at Saddam University for Islamic Studies (alma matter of most of ISIS cadre). And Assad courted 12'er Shia nuts, like Hezbollah, Iran, Lebanon.

So stop with the secular crap already. Thats as true as suggesting a communist country is actually a worker's paradise. Its propaganda and bullshit.

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Who gives a f**k?

Seriously? Who the hell gives two fucks about this place? Jesus Christ.

Now, can we get back to twitter please?

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:50:58 AM EST

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Ok, but to go back to where we were beforehand:

When the US was overflying the USSR with U2s and SR71s, should the Russians have done the same thing the Israelis just did? Of course not, that would have led really bad places really quick.

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So what does it all mean? Another bout of skirmishes or do we here in the U.S. Wake up to an initiated Samson option? Thus a different world later on in the AM.... We live in such interesting times.... All will probably quite before next escalation or maybe not...

I'm not expecting WWIII by the A.M. but Israel is pissed, as they should be and will retaliate with even more aggression, as they should. Things could escalate with time, or things could end up with outside talking head influences de-escalating the situation with what-if's, this is why's, and here's why you can'ts. Just too early to say

This is my problem and questions that led to a certain someone losing his mind.

Why does Israel have a right to unilaterally strike another sovereign nation?

Why do they expect not to be shot at when doing that?

Why do Americans care when they are?

You still forget to mention the military drone over Israel is what started it. If Syria don't want to get fucked up then keep their hardware out of Israel's space. Its a simple concept and dummy can understand.

Ok, but to go back to where we were beforehand:

When the US was overflying the USSR with U2s and SR71s, should the Russians have done the same thing the Israelis just did? Of course not, that would have led really bad places really quick.

Israel can retaliate because Syria doesn't have nukes, Israel does. Soviets couldn't do small reprisal against US over U2 incident because they'd start a fuckin global thermonuclear war.

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:51:23 AM EST

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The Israeli military says it has carried out a "large scale attack" against Iranian targets in Syria. The military says it planes struck 12 targets Saturday including three aerial defense batteries and four Iranian targets that are part of Iran's military establishment in Syria.

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Posted: 2/10/2018 3:52:38 AM EST

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First and foremost, Islam sucks. Does anyone else question why the West is programmed to hate Syria/Iran, yet the likes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar seem to get a pass? Does anyone else find it odd that the majority of Islamic violence/female suppression/terrorism is exponentially carried out by radical Sunni muslims (Saudi Wahhabism), not Shia? Maybe it has something to do with the petrodollar? Again, not taking sides, as I think they all suck, but I think we need to look at the bigger picture.

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This is another one of my Issues.

I don't love Islam in any of its forms, none.

But one form of its is far more hostile to the West than another, and we happen to be most buddy-buddy with that form.

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:54:24 AM EST

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First and foremost, Islam sucks. Does anyone else question why the West is programmed to hate Syria/Iran, yet the likes of Saudi Arabia and Qatar seem to get a pass? Does anyone else find it odd that the majority of Islamic violence/female suppression/terrorism is exponentially carried out by radical Sunni muslims (Saudi Wahhabism), not Shia? Maybe it has something to do with the petrodollar? Again, not taking sides, as I think they all suck, but I think we need to look at the bigger picture.

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Iran not part of Petrodollar scheme. Iran attacked our embassy and took hostages, only went downhill from there. Saudi king and govt officially were never our enemy, rogue elements inside kingdom were, to include numerous senior princes and Saudi intelligence, controlled by same rogue princes.

Who have all been snatched up, likely dead at this point, from new crown prince who doesn't fuck around.

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:55:25 AM EST

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Israel can retaliate because Syria doesn't have nukes, Israel does. Soviets couldn't do small reprisal against US over U2 incident because they'd start a fuckin global thermonuclear war.

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So what does it all mean? Another bout of skirmishes or do we here in the U.S. Wake up to an initiated Samson option? Thus a different world later on in the AM.... We live in such interesting times.... All will probably quite before next escalation or maybe not...

I'm not expecting WWIII by the A.M. but Israel is pissed, as they should be and will retaliate with even more aggression, as they should. Things could escalate with time, or things could end up with outside talking head influences de-escalating the situation with what-if's, this is why's, and here's why you can'ts. Just too early to say

This is my problem and questions that led to a certain someone losing his mind.

Why does Israel have a right to unilaterally strike another sovereign nation?

Why do they expect not to be shot at when doing that?

Why do Americans care when they are?

You still forget to mention the military drone over Israel is what started it. If Syria don't want to get fucked up then keep their hardware out of Israel's space. Its a simple concept and dummy can understand.

Ok, but to go back to where we were beforehand:

When the US was overflying the USSR with U2s and SR71s, should the Russians have done the same thing the Israelis just did? Of course not, that would have led really bad places really quick.

Israel can retaliate because Syria doesn't have nukes, Israel does. Soviets couldn't do small reprisal against US over U2 incident because they'd start a fuckin global thermonuclear war.

Exactly.

This is why Iran is currently trying to build nukes as rapidly as possible, and I don't blame them at all. It makes sense, don't you agree.

That said, I do apologize for offending you, I honestly wish for nothing but peace.

I want Israel to have its (current) borders, Syria to have its, and everyone be held to the same standard.

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:56:27 AM EST

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Saudi king and govt officially were never our enemy, rogue elements inside kingdom were, to include numerous senior princes and Saudi intelligence, controlled by same rogue princes.

Who have all been snatched up, likely dead at this point, from new crown prince who doesn't fuck around.

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lol

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:57:52 AM EST

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So you blame the US when we overfly countries we don't have agreements with with military drones? I mean we even killed people doing that (Pakistan right?)

I mean we overflew the USSR for a couple decades with Military Aircraft right?

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So what does it all mean? Another bout of skirmishes or do we here in the U.S. Wake up to an initiated Samson option? Thus a different world later on in the AM.... We live in such interesting times.... All will probably quite before next escalation or maybe not...

I'm not expecting WWIII by the A.M. but Israel is pissed, as they should be and will retaliate with even more aggression, as they should. Things could escalate with time, or things could end up with outside talking head influences de-escalating the situation with what-if's, this is why's, and here's why you can'ts. Just too early to say

This is my problem and questions that led to a certain someone losing his mind.

Why does Israel have a right to unilaterally strike another sovereign nation?

Why do they expect not to be shot at when doing that?

Why do Americans care when they are?

Rights don't come into play here. There is no world-wide Bill of Rights of country on country strikes. What gave Japan the right to attack us?

They don't expect not to be shot at. Israeli's are not the least bit stupid. Why do Americans care? Israel is our ally and American patriots have their friends/allies backs. And if that's how you feel, why do you care what we think? Why do you care about any of it if it doesn't affect you?

I can understand your argument that in terms of force in international relations there are no "rights", however, isn't it well established that the Japanese acted "wrongly" in doing so? I mean even aside from "Victors Justice"? Whats the difference here?

I disagree that Israel is our ally, but I'll set that aside.

As to how this affects me.

Well, seeing as how most are outraged by the Syrians defending their airspace from attack, and a segment of the populace demanding War with Assad even before this, I have an interest in seeing that their wishes are non fulfilled and war doesn't happen, or at least not a war between the US and Syria, or worse yet, Russia.

As I stated in another thread, the setup for this is eerily similar to WWI, with slight modification.

No country would tolerate another country invading their airspace and killing their soldiers defending said airspace.

No country would tolerate a military drone in their airspace either. Syria is to blame for this one. I hope they pay.

So you blame the US when we overfly countries we don't have agreements with with military drones? I mean we even killed people doing that (Pakistan right?)

I mean we overflew the USSR for a couple decades with Military Aircraft right?

Blame the U.S. for what? Flying military hardware over hostile countries that we know could possibly retaliate on us for doing so? We choose to do it, we fully understand the consequences of doing it, and those countries fully understand the consequences of retaliating on us for it.

Just like Syria understood the consequences of flying drones over Israel. Just like Israel understood the consequences of flying over to Syria in retaliation. Just like Syria understands the consequences for firing on Israel's Jets. This will not end well for Syria.

Posted: 2/10/2018 4:00:25 AM EST

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Exactly.

This is why Iran is currently trying to build nukes as rapidly as possible, and I don't blame them at all. It makes sense, don't you agree.

That said, I do apologize for offending you, I honestly wish for nothing but peace.

I want Israel to have its (current) borders, Syria to have its, and everyone be held to the same standard.

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Apology not accepted, COC doesn't allow me to properly reply besides stating I'm hoping mods ban you. Guess we'll have to wait till tomorrow to find out.

Posted: 2/10/2018 4:01:18 AM EST

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Exactly.

This is why Iran is currently trying to build nukes as rapidly as possible, and I don't blame them at all. It makes sense, don't you agree.

That said, I do apologize for offending you, I honestly wish for nothing but peace.

I want Israel to have its (current) borders, Syria to have its, and everyone be held to the same standard.

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So what does it all mean? Another bout of skirmishes or do we here in the U.S. Wake up to an initiated Samson option? Thus a different world later on in the AM.... We live in such interesting times.... All will probably quite before next escalation or maybe not...

I'm not expecting WWIII by the A.M. but Israel is pissed, as they should be and will retaliate with even more aggression, as they should. Things could escalate with time, or things could end up with outside talking head influences de-escalating the situation with what-if's, this is why's, and here's why you can'ts. Just too early to say

This is my problem and questions that led to a certain someone losing his mind.

Why does Israel have a right to unilaterally strike another sovereign nation?

Why do they expect not to be shot at when doing that?

Why do Americans care when they are?

You still forget to mention the military drone over Israel is what started it. If Syria don't want to get fucked up then keep their hardware out of Israel's space. Its a simple concept and dummy can understand.

Ok, but to go back to where we were beforehand:

When the US was overflying the USSR with U2s and SR71s, should the Russians have done the same thing the Israelis just did? Of course not, that would have led really bad places really quick.

Israel can retaliate because Syria doesn't have nukes, Israel does. Soviets couldn't do small reprisal against US over U2 incident because they'd start a fuckin global thermonuclear war.

Exactly.

This is why Iran is currently trying to build nukes as rapidly as possible, and I don't blame them at all. It makes sense, don't you agree.

That said, I do apologize for offending you, I honestly wish for nothing but peace.

I want Israel to have its (current) borders, Syria to have its, and everyone be held to the same standard.

Islam has no borders, as we have seen first hand. If they escalate anything they will lose.

Posted: 2/10/2018 4:02:49 AM EST

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We really need to stop repeating this. Pan Arab unity = Ba'athist Arab nationalistic socialism = about 30 good years in Syria, 10 in Iraq before the majority populations getting fucked over by typical Arab tribal corruption caused nations to fracture. In Iraq, the Ba'athist controlling things were Sunni under Saddam, he fucked the Shia over bad enough that he essentially forever destroyed Iraq doing so much to try to keep them in check after. In Syria, once papa Assad took over the Ba'ath govt it became Alawite, specifically their tribe running it and being typical corrupt as fuck tribal dictator who managed to piss off his majority, who were Sunni Arabs.

Both Saddam and Assad courted religion nuts on their own side. When the Sunni revival started in the early 90s, Saddam started his Faith campaign, promoting religious piety, hajibs are back, religious schools catering to Wahhabists/Salafists spring up at Saddam University for Islamic Studies (alma matter of most of ISIS cadre). And Assad courted 12'er Shia nuts, like Hezbollah, Iran, Lebanon.

So stop with the secular crap already. Thats as true as suggesting a communist country is actually a worker's paradise. Its propaganda and bullshit.

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Of course they did. That's what Islam does, but you cannot say Iraq/Libya/Syria were not better off under their dictators than they are currently - it appears to me that Islamic countries have to be ruled with an iron fist to keep shit in check.

Posted: 2/10/2018 4:04:40 AM EST

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Thanks, I had the picture in my mind, but damned if I could remember the name!

Posted: 2/10/2018 4:05:06 AM EST

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Blame the U.S. for what? Flying military hardware over hostile countries that we know could possibly retaliate on us for doing so? We choose to do it, we fully understand the consequences of doing it, and those countries fully understand the consequences of retaliating on us for it.

Just like Syria understood the consequences of flying drones over Israel. Just like Israel understood the consequences of flying over to Syria in retaliation. Just like Syria understands the consequences for firing on Israel's Jets. This will not end well for Syria.