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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:24:39 PM EST
Starting to see multiple Reddit posts pushing this narrative.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1f9azjh/right_wing_influencers_were_allegedly_peddling/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1f9lguo/tenet_media_tim_pool_david_rubin_etc_are_paid/ And this from Ryan McBeth How Russia Today Infiltrated Right Wing Media |
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Yep. Just like the laptop was Russian disinformation, Jan 6 was a insurrection, Trump illegally had classified documents.....
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I don't give a shit. Fuck the left, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ.
Just cherrypicking bullshit to distract from their own crimes. More "Russian Collusion". THEY are the enemy, their accusations mean fuck-all to me. |
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Interesting that this story came out around the same time that it was discovered a Chinese Operative was working for the Governor of New York.
Did this Ryan guy cover that story as well? |
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Interesting to see who doesn't immediately come to their defense but are page one of anything anti kamala / democrat
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
The moral stated at the end of the Greek version is, "this shows how liars are rewarded: even if they tell the truth, no one believes them". It echoes a statement attributed to Aristotle by Diogenes Laërtius in his The Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, in which the sage was asked what those who tell lies gain by it and he answered "that when they speak truth they are not believed".[7] William Caxton similarly closes his version with the remark that "men bileve not lyghtly hym whiche is knowen for a lyer". However, when dealing with the moral behaviour of adults, Samuel Croxall asks, referencing political alarmism, "when we are alarmed with imaginary dangers in respect of the public, till the cry grows quite stale and threadbare, how can it be expected we should know when to guard ourselves against real ones?"[12] |
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What are Ryan Mcbeth's creds besides former NCO intel guy? Is that it?
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There's some truth to it.
Scott Ritter via Tucker Carlson. Ditto for col whatisface I remember when arf om hated the F35...on the strength of Pierre Sprey being interviewed about it on Russia Today We like to pretend we're immune to propaganda. We aren't. We absolutely need to be on guard against it and view everything with skepticism...doubly so the words that sound like honey. |
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I wonder how many billions Russia and now China have pumped through left wing media and schools.
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What is funny is that the reddit account linked in the OP is full of literal Ukraine propaganda, just look at the URL, mixed in with the stuff about republicans supposedly being Russian propaganda
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From what I've gathered, the "russian" angle was that they were just badmouthing Ukraine? And somehow their company also had a russian investor? That's the coincidence? That's the problem?
Ukraine sucks just like Russia does. I don't see how this is a crime or a huge deal. |
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Zuckerberg donated $400 million to influence an election for who ?
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Got a lot of mileage out of this one 5-6 yrs ago. Time to break it back out of storage.
Attached File |
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My take is some of these "conservative" sounding people tend to be anti Ukraine war support. Not that they necessarily agree with what's happening in Ukraine but like many why are we spending $$$$ there? There are mixed ideas of Ukraine war support. I think some still hold on to the Ukraine that was financing the Bidens and basically seen as corrupt and think they brought the Russian invasion on themselves. Has Ukraine changed any? Less corrupt now????? And then there's the side who support blowing the Russians out of the water.
So I think those conservative sounding ones pushing the stay out of the war narrative are being attacked by Ukraine itself. United24 is a Ukraine organization. |
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Quoted: What is funny is that the reddit account linked in the OP is full of literal Ukraine propaganda, just look at the URL, mixed in with the stuff about republicans supposedly being Russian propaganda View Quote Yeah one of the posters uses the name "JailTrumpTheCrook" Kinda obvious where his opinion lies. |
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Timcast has one person on their payroll (Cassandra Fairbanks) who used to work for RT... Therefore Russian shill. Got it.
The metric for many of these people is that if you aren't 100% for US taxpayer funding, military equipment, and possibly even US servicemen being sent to Ukraine, you're a Russian. |
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Seems like it was a setup of some sort.
And the talent wasnt involved in anything. If the allegations are even true. |
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What about how the Chinese have their fucking mitts in every Democrat?
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Quoted: No, what's interesting is the number of people on this site who are defending the DOJ and this clear targeting of people they disagree with View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Interesting to see who doesn't immediately come to their defense but are page one of anything anti kamala / democrat No, what's interesting is the number of people on this site who are defending the DOJ and this clear targeting of people they disagree with *That's true |
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Remember the hub bub about Russia funding the NRA? And then finding out it was like a dozen Russians or Americans living in Russia giving like a grand total through membership dues?
If you uncritically eat this shit up, you're the problem. I expect liberals and the mainstream media to lie and smear - and I also expect those on 'our side' to somewhat learn after the 50th incident. |
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Quoted: There's some truth to it. Scott Ritter via Tucker Carlson. Ditto for col whatisface I remember when arf om hated the F35...on the strength of Pierre Sprey being interviewed about it on Russia Today We like to pretend we're immune to propaganda. We aren't. We absolutely need to be on guard against it and view everything with skepticism...doubly so the words that sound like honey. View Quote I agree. We have our own echo chambers for the propaganda to bounce around in. I suspect the right is often agitated and spun up by propaganda in order to make us look more dangerous or crazy. Helps the left to further polarize against us and dismiss our viewpoints. |
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Quoted: Remember the hub bub about Russia funding the NRA? And then finding out it was like a dozen Russians or Americans living in Russia giving like a grand total through membership dues? If you uncritically eat this shit up, you're the problem. I expect liberals and the mainstream media to lie and smear - and I also expect those on 'our side' to somewhat learn after the 50th incident. View Quote Other than that whole deal with NRA folks meeting with a Russian spy and approaching the Russian arms industry to do business with them. |
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Quoted: Other than that whole deal with NRA folks meeting with a Russian spy and approaching the Russian arms industry to do business with them. View Quote What's your point exactly? She's a If I recall correctly, the entire thing was about promoting pro gun stuff. I don't have a problem with the NRA supporting pro gun movements in Russia, or the UK, or wherever ETA: Someone else phrased it better than I am: making a big deal about "giving money to people to do what they already were doing" because they're Russian. If they're not allowed to give money, fine go after them for that. But the strong implication is that these various conservative causes are being directed / bought and paid for by Russian money when it's simply not true. |
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Quoted: Other than that whole deal with NRA folks meeting with a Russian spy and approaching the Russian arms industry to do business with them. View Quote A lot of folks don't realize that information warfare is a thing, it has soldiers and tactics. It's just another tool to gain an edge. If the US stopped supplying Ukraine it'd be a huge edge for Russia. They can't destroy us ships or factories, but they don't need to. Just make support for Ukraine to unpopular. |
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Tim Pool files a lawsuit against Harris.
A couple days later, DOJ announces indictment against media company funding tim pool's culture war podcast. Hmmm.... |
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Riiiiight. So why did Putin endorse HeelsUp?
He didn’t get a little sumthin sumthin from her yet did he? |
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Quoted: What are Ryan Mcbeth's creds besides former NCO intel guy? Is that it? View Quote Regardless of the Tenet issue, McBeth's sudden stardom is very interesting. He went from a obscure guy making job interview tips videos pre 2022 that most of the time barely broke 4k views with what I imagine was an even lower subscribers number. To a guy suddenly doing war analysis, and disinfo ops videos raking up a couple high thousand view videos with an insanely high subscriber count. And all while some how making the rounds on other more well known youtube podcasts that align more or less with the right. |
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Quoted: There's some truth to it. Scott Ritter via Tucker Carlson. Ditto for col whatisface I remember when arf om hated the F35...on the strength of Pierre Sprey being interviewed about it on Russia Today We like to pretend we're immune to propaganda. We aren't. We absolutely need to be on guard against it and view everything with skepticism...doubly so the words that sound like honey. View Quote It's a shame that pretty much everyone in the "fake news research" space is there explicitly because Orange Man Bad, because there's a lot of interesting shit going on. |
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Has a pretty good take on it. Basically indict people who will never go to trial because they are in Russia for legally giving money to people to do what they already were doing. |
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What ever the opposite is, start looking around there for the real dealski.
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From what I can tell, the people highlighted, the "conservative influencers" were not influenced at all by whatever this is. The DOJ indictment has them as "victims" not accomplices.
Tim Pool did a segment on it and is nonplussed about it. One of his video segments is on Tenet's channel, but his main stuff, Timcast IRL is on his own channel. He has never been asked by Tenet to support any particular position. So it kinda seems like for the several independent media personalities, they were not being influenced by mUh rUsSiA rUsSiA rUsSiA!! |
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