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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:39:56 AM EST
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About 15 years ago, a young man with a handgun carry permit was stopped in the Nashville, TN area because a passenger in his car was known to have gang ties. During a search of the car, the cops found a legally possessed KelTec PLR-16 5.56mm pistol under the driver's seat. (Again, the driver had a carry permit and was legally carrying the gun.)
The cops, wanting to fuck with the guy hanging out with a childhood friend who had gang ties and not being familiar with the PLR-16, decided to charge the driver with possession of a prohibited weapon-to wit, a short barreled rifle. The kid was too broke to hire his own attorney, so, despite knowing full well the PLR-16 was marketed and sold as a pistol, agreed to dispose of the pistol to an FFL in order to have the charges dropped. The gun was sold to a gun shop in Nashville (Eastside Guns), where it was bought by none other than ARFCOM's own, the infamous kwikrnu, aka Leonard Embody. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:46:09 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What an idiot, he deserved everything he had coming.  Ah, I can tell you're a stalwart defender of gun rights. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:47:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Potential jail time if convicted is over a year which equals prohibited person Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Serious question Why turn in to get misdemeanors dropped? They’re misdemeanors. Do they mean something else in NY? I wipe my ass w misdemeanors in Ohio Potential jail time if convicted is over a year which equals prohibited person He commented that he was afraid they would find something else illegal in his storage container where he kept them. I’ll post that when I get a chance today. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:51:06 AM EST
[#4]
MD bans 80%s
Any 0% you create in MD must be serialized by an FFL within 30 days. Days 1-28:  Day 29:  Unless there's a buyback during the month paying $50 per nonfunctional, unserialized firearm.  Kharn |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:53:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Potential jail time if convicted is over a year which equals prohibited person I'd bet he's done with firearms either way. Edit: sounds like he wasn't. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:54:23 AM EST
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:10:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe giving up a legal owned item for a favor that is being forced by someone has another name. Oh yeah extortion. That is it . Not extortion when your lawyer proposed it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:14:04 AM EST
[#8]
Yet felonious, feral animals run rampant.
New York City is a vile cesspool to be avoided. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:33:50 AM EST
[#9]
It's always about disarming of law abiding and taking their $$. When I did a job at the Queens DA's ofice years ago, I saw a whiteboard with info listing an out of state traveler getting busted at JFK for having a handgun, magazine and number of rounds. The board listed that the traveler has a concelead carry in his home state, was traveling from A to B and "forgot" he had his firearm with him. The solution on the bottom of the whiteboard said, agreed to the charges, loss of firearm, mag and ammo and fines. Which I'm sure were huge.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:41:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can say with 100% certainly that this isn’t the first time social media has gotten people hemmed up for gun violations. There was that kid in MD who posted pics of his Tavor and cops thought it was an SBR (because they’re stupid) and they showed up and killed him. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:43:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I represented someone on "attempted possession of a firearm" I can't give specifics but it was as bizarre as it sounds. Case got dropped for other reasons Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Possession of handgun ammo without a permit and and attempted possession of a firearm. Just let sink in for a minute. sounds. Case got dropped for other reasons Attempted possession is a weird one. Could that happen if he was prohibited and then got denied while trying to buy a gun? Bizarre nonetheless. Pro tip. Stay off social media. Pro tip 2. Looks like NYPD subpoenas gun broker, the 80% frame seller and others and got al, of his info. Wonder what and whose other purchase records they got? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:47:53 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryThis guy is a retard for posting stuff like this. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:00:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Took his tools too. Daaamn https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/reddit10-2789172.jpg I uploaded a few more snippets from the comments for folks not going through the reddit post. Things are changing so rapidly in some places, and with little fanfare, I'm afraid there's going to be a lot of surprises for people. One must actively seek out the state of the art. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:01:51 AM EST
[#14]
He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in
Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:02:35 AM EST
[#15]
Parts of this country are turning more and more dystopian and authoritarian as the years pass on.
Scary stuff and a complete violation of his civil rights. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:04:57 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:12:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Potential jail time if convicted is over a year which equals prohibited person Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Serious question Why turn in to get misdemeanors dropped? They’re misdemeanors. Do they mean something else in NY? I wipe my ass w misdemeanors in Ohio Potential jail time if convicted is over a year which equals prohibited person It was one year for each, he would not be a prohibited person. The total for multiple misdemeanors does not add up to make you a prohibited person. Also misdemeanors with a penalty of up to two years are exempt from making you a prohibited person. It says that right on the 4473 in the instructions. To be prohibited it needs to be a felony or a misdemeanor with a penalty of over two years. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:24:49 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:37:22 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My big question is why did he ever admit to owning all that stuff outside NYC? And especially listing and turning in ALL of it. Perhaps he yapped about that on social media, too. If I read correctly, they had his receipts basically. They knew what he had and wanted it. I'd guess they thought it was all at his house. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:43:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His problem is that he no prior criminal history. If he was a felony then they would have ignored him. “Welcome to NY! If you don’t have a criminal record, one will be provided for you.” |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:55:52 AM EST
[#21]
Another victimless gun criminal neutered. Who are these people enforcing victimless gun crime? Do the feel noble? Do they feel like their pension is worth it destroying and scaring the living shit out of law abiding gun owners? I’d like to know.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:14:36 AM EST
[#22]
OP failed. Your attorney should have told them to fuck off.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:40:12 AM EST
[#23]
So do I understand correctly that he had NY "prohibited" items in a storage OUTSIDE of NY proper yet NY still views that as possession of illegal items?
If so then all the people inside NY that repatriated their fully featured weapons to PA, etc. after NY SAFE ACT are breaking NY laws? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:43:02 AM EST
[#24]
fascism is alive and well.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:43:08 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:44:01 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Possession of handgun ammo without a permit and and attempted possession of a firearm. Just let sink in for a minute. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:46:08 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the "common sense gun laws" they want for the entire country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Possession of handgun ammo without a permit and and attempted possession of a firearm. Just let sink in for a minute. DC has a similar law where people get charged with one count for each round of ammunition they are found with. Of course crime is rampant there and no one seems to get arrested for anything. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:47:25 AM EST
[#28]
Another friendly reminder that the tbl is never on your side.
And they will destroy lives of law abiding citizens willingly but let criminals with 87+ charges roam free. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:48:22 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. Maybe when it comes to free states having to choose between American right and fed subsidies would you have groups of people able to even gather for that kinda thing. Until then, everyone is alone fighting the endless assets of the system. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:50:11 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe when it comes to free states having to choose between American right and fed subsidies would you have groups of people able to even gather for that kinda thing. Until then, everyone is alone fighting the endless assets of the system. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. Maybe when it comes to free states having to choose between American right and fed subsidies would you have groups of people able to even gather for that kinda thing. Until then, everyone is alone fighting the endless assets of the system. Social media is not your friend either. Looks like the pics he posted got this whole thing started. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:53:27 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe when it comes to free states having to choose between American right and fed subsidies would you have groups of people able to even gather for that kinda thing. Until then, everyone is alone fighting the endless assets of the system. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. Maybe when it comes to free states having to choose between American right and fed subsidies would you have groups of people able to even gather for that kinda thing. Until then, everyone is alone fighting the endless assets of the system. Which is why I always tell people, get to know your neighbors, train and educate them. Make a support system now rather than later. Also learn counter intelligence, know the players. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:57:24 AM EST
[#32]
Some of you think you are immune to this.
And you might be….for now. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:57:27 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My big question is why did he ever admit to owning all that stuff outside NYC? And especially listing and turning in ALL of it. Perhaps he yapped about that on social media, too. All firearm purchases in the state are tracked and registered with the state i believe, Also if he had and hand guns they would of been on his permit. so they already knew what he had just didnt know where they were. All very disturbing and absolutly fly in the face of freedom. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:58:46 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement.  Pick up the can |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 11:00:00 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe giving up a legal owned item for a favor that is being forced by someone has another name. Oh yeah extortion. That is it . This. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 11:01:19 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Social media is not your friend either. Looks like the pics he posted got this whole thing started. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. Maybe when it comes to free states having to choose between American right and fed subsidies would you have groups of people able to even gather for that kinda thing. Until then, everyone is alone fighting the endless assets of the system. Social media is not your friend either. Looks like the pics he posted got this whole thing started. He said he’d ask his lawyer about getting a copy of the affidavit they used to apply for the search warrant (another redditer told him he could do that). So maybe we’ll find out more. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 11:09:10 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He should’ve used his guns and not turn them in Make a plan, practice your plan, if/when the time comes execute your plan It’s easy to call for others to go down in a blaze of glory. May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders OK Spartan. Looking forward to reading about your exploits when things kick off. Of course, we all know you won’t do shit other than cheer others on from the safety of your basement. https://media.tenor.com/SMCoyKaxE9EAAAAd/metrocop-trash-can.gif Pick up the can Safety and environment first! Thank you for showing me where it was so I can take care of it.  Ahh this sucks guys. How come WE had to live through a culminating era…. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 11:11:19 AM EST
[#38]
thank god they got this menace off the street. Now they have time to focus on the smaller fish out there, like guys who stab random strangers, or throw strangers in front of a subway train. At last, the public is safe.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 12:12:58 PM EST
[#39]
Out of curiosity, what would NY have been able to do if dude packed his shit up and moved to Texas or something? Have him 'extradited', or whatever the term is between states, for misdemeanor attempted possession of a firearm?
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Posted: 4/20/2023 6:27:50 PM EST
[#40]
DA told him they’d have fucked him if they found what he’d turned in. AND he understood why he wanted to defend himself cuz his dad was murdered.
Wtf, these people man. I know why you did it. But we’d still lock you up and throw away the key! Cheers man! 
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Posted: 4/20/2023 6:38:00 PM EST
[#41]
r/fosscad is definitely NOT the place to brag about breaking laws.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:13:38 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: r/fosscad is definitely NOT the place to brag about breaking laws. Yea… he made a comment about not knowing what tipped the cops off and in the same breath said “I only posted in gun forums.” And he broadcasted “NY” in his screen name (probably names). Anyway, I wonder when they’ll start policing the files themselves and their makers. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:24:26 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another victimless gun criminal neutered. Who are these people enforcing victimless gun crime? Do the feel noble? Do they feel like their pension is worth it destroying and scaring the living shit out of law abiding gun owners? I’d like to know. You already know the answers to these questions. Despite what so many on here say, the overwhelming majority of them will do the enforcing without hesitation for exactly the reason you listed. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:40:09 PM EST
[#44]
It’s easy for me to be tough when I do not have the boot on my neck.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:54:53 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What an idiot, he deserved everything he had coming. The enemy is among us. These are the definition of unjust laws. Completely pants-on-head retarded. I'd say you should think about what you said, but I don't think you could change your stripes. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:56:36 PM EST
[#46]
What constitutes an unfished receiver? A block of wood/metal/plastic, and power tools?
I bet NY has some vague law than can and will be distorted to whatever the DA decides it means from day to day.  |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:57:35 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s easy for me to be tough when I do not have the boot on my neck. The process is the punishment, and the system is designed to protect those with nothing to lose. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:36:28 PM EST
[#48]
So they took his bank documents (probably mail sitting on his counter) and other documents from a locker he had despite none of that being listed on the search warrant?!
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:54:39 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuote History Irony be like it is. Quoted: Quoted: Serious question Why turn in to get misdemeanors dropped? They’re misdemeanors. Do they mean something else in NY? I wipe my ass w misdemeanors in Ohio https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/reddit7-2789140.jpg LOL |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 1:07:49 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe giving up a legal owned item for a favor that is being forced by someone has another name. Oh yeah extortion. That is it . Happened to my BIL in CA. He shot a two-time felon/local gang banger who broke into his house and beat the crap out of him. He met all the requirements for Castle Doctrine but they arrested him anyway and took all his guns. DA decided not to press charges after he spent $20k on legal fees, but threatened to prosecute him when he asked for his guns back. He was told, “We still have three years to press charges, so don’t ask again”. DA refused to press charges against the guy who broke into his house. BIL waited two years before finally paying his lawyer to demand his guns he returned. |
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