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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:56:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Lol yes
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:56:56 PM EDT
[#2]
I don’t see why not
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:58:16 PM EDT
[#3]
It's got to be easier than building an atomic bomb.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:58:19 PM EDT
[#4]
No.
Only AKs Man still had testosterone back then. Couldn't quite yet build gay-R-15s |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:59:03 PM EDT
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No. Only AKs Man still had testosterone back then. Couldn't quite yet build gay-R-15s |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:59:40 PM EDT
[#6]
The AR-15 is an absurdly simple firearm compared to an M1 Garand or an FG42. It would have been quite easy to produce.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:59:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Ford motor company was capable of building one B-24 bomber an hour. They couldn't build a puny little rifle?
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:01:53 PM EDT
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Thompson sub gun required way more machine work. I think it could have easily been done. I mean most of us are building lowers in house with routers and a jig.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:02:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Johnson Automatic Rifle bolt:
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:03:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Well.
It would be wood grips, wood furniture. Parkerized steel receivers. Chambered in 30-06. Weigh about 15 pounds. 15-20 round capacity. Box magazines doubling as a kudgle to bludgeon Japanese and Germans to death with. Damn thing would be quite robust. No rapid fire. Hand guard would spontaneously combust. Maybe not. They'd probably use asbestos back then... 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:06:24 PM EDT
[#11]
It would have failed miserably. But it could have been built.
remember all the sub standard powder that fucked with the early m16s in the 60s? Where do you think the pencil pushers found it? that and " aircraft aluminum" is a pretty wide term mettalurgically. IIRC we did not have the quality that we have now. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:07:18 PM EDT
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I don't know how much plastic was around in those days, but I'm sure that bakelite or something similar could be used for the furniture.
I'd imagine that it would have been chambered in something more intermediate back then, like .30 carbine or .351 Winchester. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:09:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Why would you bother when you already have the finest service rifle in the world?
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:09:38 PM EDT
[#14]
easily, tolerances would be looser compared to stuff now, might be more finicky, oh and most likely have wood instead of plastic.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:09:42 PM EDT
[#15]
capable? you realize that the AR is a pretty simple, straightforward rifle right? both in terms of design and ease of manufacture.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:10:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Yeah, but it'd be about a pound heavier because of all the steel and wood we'd have slapped on it.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:13:53 PM EDT
[#17]
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I don't know how much plastic was around in those days, but I'm sure that bakelite or something similar could be used for the furniture. I'd imagine that it would have been chambered in something more intermediate back then, like .30 carbine or .351 Winchester. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:16:25 PM EDT
[#18]
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Why would you bother when you already have the finest service rifle in the world? Yeah, the M1 was definitely The Rifle To Have when adopted, but by 1942 in the middle of a war...you might want to make sure you're still working on the next rifle. Because the other side is (or you damn well should assume will be) working on improvements, too. And as much as I love my M1, the AR-type is definitely superior to it. Even an AR-type in Caliber .30 (i.e. 30-06) would be an improvement as a combat weapon. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:19:02 PM EDT
[#19]
Yes.
  
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:21:34 PM EDT
[#20]
Nope.
Even if it had been designed, it never would have been adopted and no major manufacturing firm would have been able to get a contract to sell it to the government. And most likely wouldn't have been allowed to sell it to foreign governments. People don't think the 1942 war economy be like it was, but it did. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:21:36 PM EDT
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Could one be built?
Sure. Could they be mass manufactured to equip an army? Probably not. Forged 7075 aluminum receivers isn't something our industry was really geared up to make in WWII. Likewise 7075 impact extrusions for the buffer tube. Lots of advanced polymers and composites too. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:22:02 PM EDT
[#22]
AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder....
It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:23:03 PM EDT
[#23]
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AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder.... It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:24:53 PM EDT
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30 Carbine was made from Day 1 with non-corrosive primers due to the M1 Carbine's gas system. No real reason why the '42-AR couldn't have the same treatment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder.... It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:25:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 Carbine was made from Day 1 with non-corrosive primers due to the M1 Carbine's gas system. No real reason why the '42-AR couldn't have the same treatment. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:25:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:26:30 PM EDT
[#27]
The first 7075 was developed in 1943 in Japan.
Even if the allies had access to the Japanese process, it was rather late in the war effort to invent the AR, tool up manufacturing for it (in a material that was brand new), and get it out to the front lines. Nevermind having to develop a new cartridge, or the problems we faced during Vietnam associated with poorly selected powders being used to load 5.56. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:26:44 PM EDT
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It's got to be easier than building an atomic bomb. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:26:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's got to be easier than building an atomic bomb. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:27:00 PM EDT
[#30]
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30 Carbine was made from Day 1 with non-corrosive primers due to the M1 Carbine's gas system. No real reason why the '42-AR couldn't have the same treatment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder.... It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:27:15 PM EDT
[#31]
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easily, tolerances would be looser compared to stuff now, might be more finicky, oh and most likely have wood instead of plastic. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1cae2f3370254a753b59d5a1b80dd34b |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:27:47 PM EDT
[#32]
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He makes a good point about the powder though. The cleaner powders enjoyed from the 50s/60s onward were often products of WWII chemistry research. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder.... It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:28:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Yes, the problem would be allocating enough aluminum.
 The Armalite AR-10 |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:30:23 PM EDT
[#34]
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The '42-AR would be constructed with a material not invented by mankind until 1943. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder.... It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:31:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Nope.
Mattel, Inc. (/m?'t?l/) is an American multinational toy manufacturing company founded in 1945 with headquarters in El Segundo, California. 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:31:34 PM EDT
[#36]
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Could one be built? Sure. Could they be mass manufactured to equip an army? Probably not. Forged 7075 aluminum receivers isn't something our industry was really geared up to make in WWII. Likewise 7075 impact extrusions for the buffer tube. Lots of advanced polymers and composites too.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:32:10 PM EDT
[#37]
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No. Only AKs Man still had testosterone back then. Couldn't quite yet build gay-R-15s |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:34:39 PM EDT
[#38]
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Nevermind having to develop a new cartridge, or the problems we faced during Vietnam associated with poorly selected powders being used to load 5.56. The select fire Armalite AR15s fielded BEFORE Vietnam actually kicked off seemed to have worked well enough in the hands of SOG. It took actually getting adopted and type classed the M16 to get properly ficked by Nader. Replace some uniquely AR parts that are aluminum with steel and 1940s era weapons makers likely would have done just fine. Look at the M3 Grease gun in terms of what kind of furniture an AR could wear. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:37:04 PM EDT
[#39]
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Cost cutting measures fucking with not having a chrome lined barrel probably played as huge a role in fucked up M16 reliability as did powder selection. The select fire Armalite AR15s fielded BEFORE Vietnam actually kicked off seemed to have worked well enough in the hands of SOG. It took actually getting adopted and type classed the M16 to get properly ficked by Nader. Replace some uniquely AR parts that are aluminum with steel and 1940s era weapons makers likely would have done just fine. Look at the M3 Grease gun in terms of what kind of furniture an AR could wear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nevermind having to develop a new cartridge, or the problems we faced during Vietnam associated with poorly selected powders being used to load 5.56. The select fire Armalite AR15s fielded BEFORE Vietnam actually kicked off seemed to have worked well enough in the hands of SOG. It took actually getting adopted and type classed the M16 to get properly ficked by Nader. Replace some uniquely AR parts that are aluminum with steel and 1940s era weapons makers likely would have done just fine. Look at the M3 Grease gun in terms of what kind of furniture an AR could wear. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:37:46 PM EDT
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Chrysler took the 40mm bofors cannon, which was not designed to be mass produced, made modifications to it, and was able to mass produce the shit out of them.
 MANUFACTURE OF THE BOFORS 40mm ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUN AT CHRYSLER BOFORS GUN TEAM 58844 |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:38:10 PM EDT
[#41]
No, the "shits where it eats" crowd would have killed it.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:39:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Easily.
I think problems with materials and powders could have been pretty easily overcome. This was a time in which quite a few more ridiculous ideas were floated and then implemented. You could probably cast the metal parts from the aluminum available if you didn't wanna make them from steel; and the powder issue could probably be overcome. I'd be surprised if you couldn't jury rig some sort of adjustable gas block to go with it as well. I think the end result would probably still be a little lighter than the rifles of the time as it'd be shorter and more compact. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:39:35 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:39:56 PM EDT
[#44]
How much aluminum was being used to make aircraft?
not sure we would've been able to spare such a critical material for such an insignificant thing. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:40:24 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryUh oh. Copyright infringement.
Damnit. Beat by a minute. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:41:38 PM EDT
[#46]
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AR-15 with corrosive primers and nasty powder.... It might have been doable, but it wouldn't have been good. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:44:11 PM EDT
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The underwood typewriter company designed the stamped type 4 trigger assembly for the M-1 carbine. Imagine what they and GM’s Guidelamp division, who designed the m3 grease gun and I believe the folding stock for the m1-a1, could have done with an AR-18.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:44:36 PM EDT
[#48]
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How much aluminum was being used to make aircraft? not sure we would've been able to spare such a critical material for such an insignificant thing.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:44:45 PM EDT
[#49]
Never would have been accepted thanks to the Cult of the .30/Cult of the Rifleman.
They still exist and still are trying to kill anything less powerful than .308. M2 Carbine in 5.7 Johnson would have been tits, and the Garand in .276 (as originally intended) would have been better than .30-06. DIGAS was already around, and France built the MAS49 just a few years after being conquered and blowed up twice. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 11:46:11 PM EDT
[#50]
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Uh oh. Copyright infringement.
Damnit. Beat by a minute. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Uh oh. Copyright infringement.
Damnit. Beat by a minute. 
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