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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:30:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes it could be. A weaponized aerosol version of Ebola would be very bad.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:33:46 PM EDT
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Chyna and Fauci are probably working on one as I type.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:36:57 PM EDT
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Protomolecule disguised as a vaccine.
It will be worse than Eros. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:37:26 PM EDT
[#4]
there is only ONE captain trips.....
heh heh (we are everywhere) |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:40:11 PM EDT
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The Covid was a bio weapon the Chicoms used to get rid of Trump and it worked. If Trump wins in 2024 we will probably see a more lethal virus.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:41:14 PM EDT
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Ask Fauchi.
Gain of function of transmissibility looks successful. Now let's add the effects of, I don't know, maybe nipah. (It's reported that Wuhan is working on nipah too). Bam! You got a weapon that's unusable, because it will wipe out everybody. Well 75% or so. You'd have to also engineer in a lifespan, a reduction of severity over time. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:43:54 PM EDT
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Of course there could. It’s happened many times in human history, but now we have the ability to custom design them.
I remember thinking the “Cpt. Trips” name was so fucking stupid and unrealistic. Then covid happened. Turns out, it’s pretty realistic. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:45:34 PM EDT
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Bubonic was courtesy of nature. I have no doubt man could create a monster.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:50:34 PM EDT
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Anything's possible.
The first SARS and MERS were both more controllable because the onset of symptoms was faster. C-19 is more effective as a pandemic because of the longer period before symptoms arise. A virus like in the Stand is a little less likely to achieve pandemic levels because too high a mortality and people do a better job of sequestering from it. Ebola outbreaks are good at keeping everyone away. For something to wipe out a huge percentage of the population, it would have to have a long a-symptomatic period and be highly contagious during that time. Something like airborne aids would do it where people would be contagious for years before any symptoms arise. It can be imagined, and there's plenty of scary shit out there that's nothing to sneeze at so to speak. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:51:27 PM EDT
[#10]
Like Smallpox in the New World?
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:52:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:53:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anything's possible. The first SARS and MERS were both more controllable because the onset of symptoms was faster. C-19 is more effective as a pandemic because of the longer period before symptoms arise. A virus like in the Stand is a little less likely to achieve pandemic levels because too high a mortality and people do a better job of sequestering from it. Ebola outbreaks are good at keeping everyone away. For something to wipe out a huge percentage of the population, it would have to have a long a-symptomatic period and be highly contagious during that time. Something like airborne aids would do it where people would be contagious for years before any symptoms arise. It can be imagined, and there's plenty of scary shit out there that's nothing to sneeze at so to speak. About the only thing I think could be effective would be an easily transmitted virus that caused one symptom… Sterility. It wouldn’t kill anyone, just put an end date on mankind. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:58:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ask Fauchi. Gain of function of transmissibility looks successful. Now let's add the effects of, I don't know, maybe nipah. (It's reported that Wuhan is working on nipah too). Bam! You got a weapon that's unusable, because it will wipe out everybody. Well 75% or so. You'd have to also engineer in a lifespan, a reduction of severity over time. Nipah is very scary. Hell, why wouldn't the ChiComs develop it? They figure it would wipe out the earth's population and free up some space for the Chinese to claim it all. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:01:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chyna and Fauci are probably working on one as I type. For a certainty |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: About the only thing I think could be effective would be an easily transmitted virus that caused one symptom Sterility. It wouldn't kill anyone, just put an end date on mankind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anything's possible. The first SARS and MERS were both more controllable because the onset of symptoms was faster. C-19 is more effective as a pandemic because of the longer period before symptoms arise. A virus like in the Stand is a little less likely to achieve pandemic levels because too high a mortality and people do a better job of sequestering from it. Ebola outbreaks are good at keeping everyone away. For something to wipe out a huge percentage of the population, it would have to have a long a-symptomatic period and be highly contagious during that time. Something like airborne aids would do it where people would be contagious for years before any symptoms arise. It can be imagined, and there's plenty of scary shit out there that's nothing to sneeze at so to speak. About the only thing I think could be effective would be an easily transmitted virus that caused one symptom Sterility. It wouldn't kill anyone, just put an end date on mankind. Children of Men. Of course the 1994 The Stand miniseries had a good opener:  The Stand (opening scene) |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:07:11 PM EDT
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Of course.
In the age of communication, naturally developed viruses are comparatively easy to cope with, though. Mutations happen and can reasonably be contained. Gain of function researched viruses, however (like Fauci funded), is a different story. Pre-mutated and exponential. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:09:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Exactly like? Improbable.
Mostly like? Pretty easy given today's technology. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:12:20 PM EDT
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I see COVID as a precursor for something far more insidious. Something virulent to take a chunk of world population out but burns out fairly fast. Oh, and with an effective vaccine.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:15:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chyna and Fauci are probably working on one as I type. Not probably. Definitively. Fauci is funding ebola research * right now *. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:19:57 PM EDT
[#20]
we ARE everywhere
thanks BBFCM |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:26:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Covid was a bio weapon the Chicoms used to get rid of Trump and it worked. *snip* THIS  Skeptics and Chinese Government apologists say; “if COVID were developed as a bio-weapon, it would have had a MUCH higher whole population mortality rate than <0.2%”. However, if you are pursuing bio-weapon development to the extent the Chinese Government has demonstrated then you are going to want an arsenal of weapons to select from, ranging from “nuke” options down to precision targeted assignations and everything in between. COVID-19 was simply the right tool for the desired outcome. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:57:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Children of Men. Of course the 1994 The Stand miniseries had a good opener:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7QRsx9lbBU |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:01:47 PM EDT
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On of the reasons govts tip their toes around N Korea is that its rumored they have Soviet era bioweapons, and those things make captain tripps look nice and sweet. No telling who else might have them as well.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:03:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chyna and Fauci are probably working on one as I type. https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/26/quay-wuhan-nipah-virus.html TLDR; wuhan samples of corona virus included genetic code fragments for "Nipah" virus (80% mortality rate). They were messing around with that too. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:06:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it could be. A weaponized aerosol version of Ebola would be very bad. probably the best would be a rabies virus as contagious as the measles. by the time you get symptoms there is no treatment. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:07:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Captain Trips was stupid, it literally killed people instantly, then suddenly took days to kill.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:10:59 PM EDT
[#27]
If you were China, just secretly inoculate your population.
Then, bombs away with a virus with the traits and characteristics already discussed. Doable. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:13:46 PM EDT
[#28]
 China’s Nightmarish New Bio Weapon Targets Race and Ethnicity |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:13:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Captain Trips was stupid, it literally killed people instantly, then suddenly took days to kill. That's actually a fairly typical progression from mutations. Evolutionary pressure selects for slower killing. We saw the same thing with AIDS, early in the epidemic it killed quickly. Today's variants are much slower at it (without treatment) because the fast viruses simply couldn't spread as well as the slow ones could. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:16:53 PM EDT
[#30]
TRASHCAN MAAAAAN
HEY TRASSSSHHHY |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:18:39 PM EDT
[#31]
I saw the word covid.
IBTM. 
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:18:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ask Fauchi. Gain of function of transmissibility looks successful. Now let's add the effects of, I don't know, maybe nipah. (It's reported that Wuhan is working on nipah too). Bam! You got a weapon that's unusable, because it will wipe out everybody. Well 75% or so. You'd have to also engineer in a lifespan, a reduction of severity over time. As to engineering a life span in a virus that would then be released into the wild, I always think of Jurassic Park, "You were so busy trying to figure out if you could, you never stopped to ask if you should." |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:22:17 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm fairly confident we're going to look back at 2020 and say "wow, remember when we thought COVID was a terrible pandemic, nothing compared to this one (whatever new one we'll face in the future)."
Invest in CBRN kit now and learn to use it. Every single person here should have or be planning to acquire said kit. Surgical masks from the pharmacy aren't going to cut it in the future. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:24:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Give it a week or so, and maybe we'll get to see
NIPAH WARNING https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1504430/nipah-virus-news-vaccine-covid-delta-variant-pandemic-warning-latest |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:24:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Already has been done. Read:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0385334966?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:24:58 PM EDT
[#36]
Covid is the Arquebus of bio weapons.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:27:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Captain Trips was stupid, it literally killed people instantly, then suddenly took days to kill. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's actually a fairly typical progression from mutations. Evolutionary pressure selects for slower killing. We saw the same thing with AIDS, early in the epidemic it killed quickly. Today's variants are much slower at it (without treatment) because the fast viruses simply couldn't spread as well as the slow ones could. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Captain Trips was stupid, it literally killed people instantly, then suddenly took days to kill. That's actually a fairly typical progression from mutations. Evolutionary pressure selects for slower killing. We saw the same thing with AIDS, early in the epidemic it killed quickly. Today's variants are much slower at it (without treatment) because the fast viruses simply couldn't spread as well as the slow ones could. In fact, the military leader (don't remember his name, I think Ed Harris played him) discusses this very early in the series and how it will play out. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:35:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The disease itself is a McGuffin in the book and the movie to set a stage. But, if you remember it got away from them due to a screw up. IIRC a containment vessel broke and one of the guys there ran, and ended up killing the world. Not something that strains credulity when it comes to the potential oopsies involved in dicking around with this stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Captain Trips was stupid, it literally killed people instantly, then suddenly took days to kill. The MP saw on camera what was happening in the lab, retrieved his family, and bailed thus bringing the virus into the world but yes, in King's view point the virus is a McGuffin to bring about a sort of Lord of the Rings battle in the US utilizing Christianity as the driving force of a showdown between good vs. evil on earth. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:38:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: About the only thing I think could be effective would be an easily transmitted virus that caused one symptom… Sterility. It wouldn’t kill anyone, just put an end date on mankind. Funny thing about natural selection, if a virus kills 100% of it's host it to goes extinct. "successful" viruses don't drive their hosts to extinction, and as a result the host passes through an "evolutionary screen" and natural selection means that immunity is achieved. If a virus is being weaponized, too high a mortality rate turns into a doomsday scenario, like wearing a suicide vest for self defense, it may be effective at taking out the threat, but taking yourself out in the process defeats the purpose. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:41:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: Just wondering if something could be that virulent and deadly? Maybe what covid was supposed to be or potentially could be? Bio-warfare is a highly researched method. "Covid_19" pales in comparison to what's researched and stored in labs. Could a bio-warfare agent kill off 90+% of the Earth's population, maybe. Would there be a few who are immune? Probably. But you might not see another human for years....if ever. While CDC publishes (well , kind of) Bio-terror information: https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/agentlist-category.asp And the US Army does as well: https://www.army-technology.com/features/featurethe-worlds-most-dangerous-bioweapons-4546207/ Do not expect public information to be complete. From a risk perspective, distribution is the real issue; how to spread a disease and not have it remain localised, or to remain lethal during mutation. It's a big planet from a microscopic perspective. Change happens. Were such a thing to occur, I wouldn't plan on survival. Your guns an ammunition, if they are ever found, would be found by someone with no one to shoot. Food would be the priority. Meeting a nice girl, like Frannie Goldsmith, odds would be near zero. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:43:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's actually a fairly typical progression from mutations. Evolutionary pressure selects for slower killing. But that's the thing. Captain Trips was a US Government Bioweapon that escaped. Why would you start with a virus that kills people in 20 seconds, when you can just make V-Series Nerve Agents that do the same thing, and don't mutate? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:51:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Captain Trips was stupid, it literally killed people instantly, then suddenly took days to kill. Viruses typically become less severe over time. That said as fast as it initially killed it was unlikely that anyone would have escaped the base to spread it so yeah it wasn't a great plot. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:54:19 PM EDT
[#44]
It's called liberalism.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:56:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bio-warfare is a highly researched method. "Covid_19" pales in comparison to what's researched and stored in labs. Could a bio-warfare agent kill off 90+% of the Earth's population, maybe. Would there be a few who are immune? Probably. But you might not see another human for years....if ever. While CDC publishes (well , kind of) Bio-terror information: https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/agentlist-category.asp And the US Army does as well: https://www.army-technology.com/features/featurethe-worlds-most-dangerous-bioweapons-4546207/ Do not expect public information to be complete. From a risk perspective, distribution is the real issue; how to spread a disease and not have it remain localised, or to remain lethal during mutation. It's a big planet from a microscopic perspective. Change happens. Were such a thing to occur, I wouldn't plan on survival. Your guns an ammunition, if they are ever found, would be found by someone with no one to shoot. Food would be the priority. Meeting a nice girl, like Frannie Goldsmith, odds would be near zero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just wondering if something could be that virulent and deadly? Maybe what covid was supposed to be or potentially could be? Bio-warfare is a highly researched method. "Covid_19" pales in comparison to what's researched and stored in labs. Could a bio-warfare agent kill off 90+% of the Earth's population, maybe. Would there be a few who are immune? Probably. But you might not see another human for years....if ever. While CDC publishes (well , kind of) Bio-terror information: https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/agentlist-category.asp And the US Army does as well: https://www.army-technology.com/features/featurethe-worlds-most-dangerous-bioweapons-4546207/ Do not expect public information to be complete. From a risk perspective, distribution is the real issue; how to spread a disease and not have it remain localised, or to remain lethal during mutation. It's a big planet from a microscopic perspective. Change happens. Were such a thing to occur, I wouldn't plan on survival. Your guns an ammunition, if they are ever found, would be found by someone with no one to shoot. Food would be the priority. Meeting a nice girl, like Frannie Goldsmith, odds would be near zero. If my goal was to spread a disease rapidly around the world then my plan would be to infect airport personnel. Particularly food court workers. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:58:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: TRASHCAN MAAAAAN HEY TRASSSSHHHY |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 6:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Covid is the Arquebus of bio weapons. You know what would be great? It would be great if you were wrong. But you're not. 
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Posted: 10/13/2021 6:14:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WHY DINCHA BURN DOWN THE SCHOOL?!!? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: TRASHCAN MAAAAAN HEY TRASSSSHHHY |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 6:28:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Try it for yourself. I've killed the world a few times. And yes, if it's too deadly it can burn out.
 Plague Inc: Evolved Official Launch Trailer |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 6:52:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nipah is very scary. Hell, why wouldn't the ChiComs develop it? They figure it would wipe out the earth's population and free up some space for the Chinese to claim it all. The nice thing about nipah is the long incubation time combined with the high casualty rate. If you could make it easily transmittable during incubation, it's a civilization ending nightmare. That's the whole trick isn't it. Transmissible, long incubation, high lethality. Doubt the chicoms or anyone else are that crazy. You'd need a way to control it, or a mass produced antidote readily available. If we ended ourselves like that, it would be an accidental release |
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