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Posted: 11/15/2017 6:18:07 PM EDT

Shot a black and rust colored coyote with my crossbow while deer hunting yesterday and got to wondering. Are coyote populations self limiting due to food availability or do they need to die? There is a field of weeds where we walk our dogs nearby with a vehicle path to gas well heads. Every spring when it's time for the first fawns to drop and on through the summer all the coyote scat has deer hair in it. Doesn't have it the rest of the year. So I'm thinking they need to die. Maybe I'm wrong and it's all part of nature's plan so that too many deer don't overgraze their territory and have massive dieoffs due to starvation.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:18:55 PM EDT

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Any hunt becomes a Coyote hunt if you see one.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:21:02 PM EDT

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Exactly....hell, I'll hunt 'em with my truck bumper...

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:23:31 PM EDT

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Lol

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:23:48 PM EDT

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FPNI. They killed my favorite dog and its been on every since. Fuck ‘em all with extreme prejudice.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:24:22 PM EDT

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Stack em up every chance you get.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:24:28 PM EDT

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They eat mice, I keep em around on my ranch

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:24:50 PM EDT

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I would shoot them but there is a strong case that when they howl it’s basically a roll call. Meaning when one is missing more get born.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:25:03 PM EDT

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Shoot em

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:25:20 PM EDT

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This guy has studied coyotes the better part of his life:

Dan Flores - Coyote America

https://www.amazon.com/Coyote-America-Natural-Supernatural-History/dp/0465052991

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:25:20 PM EDT

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The only good coyote is a dead one.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:27:20 PM EDT

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It’s a tough decision, but this makes sense after listening to the coyote guru.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:28:36 PM EDT

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As much as I hate coyotes, there are way too many deer in Ohio. The coyotes need to be killing some of the deer off.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:29:25 PM EDT

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Unlimited open season year round in Colorado. I keep my AR in the truck just in case when I'm down in the Grasslands scouting for pronghorns and mule deer. I've gotten exclusive hunting rights and private land owner turkey tags in some pretty choice areas for clearing coyotes for a few ranchers. Now I just need to learn how to handle the pelts so I can make a few more dollars instead of selling the carcass whole to a taxidermist.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:29:51 PM EDT

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May they burn in hell

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:31:20 PM EDT

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That may not necessarily be true. That gets discussed in this podcast. It's a really interesting podcast all about yotes, if you have the time, I highly recommend it.

Justin Brown is a biologist who leads coyote field research for Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area.

Joe Rogan Experience #954 - Justin Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSybjsqJc8

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:31:54 PM EDT

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter how many you kill aside from keeping the current population away from the area you kill them in.
kill a yote and more rabbits breed there and a new yote will take the old ones place.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:32:08 PM EDT

[#17]

Kill

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:32:26 PM EDT

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That is some major coyote hate!

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:32:54 PM EDT

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For every 1 you kill, 3 more were just born.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:33:14 PM EDT

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You won't make any kind of a dent in the population by shooting them.
It's takes a control effort with traps, M44s, and possibly, aerial gunning to have any kind of measurable effect on a population.

In a lot of areas, fawns are the #1 food source for coyotes in late spring/ early summer. It is what it is.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:33:42 PM EDT

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Fuck Lyme Disease! They eat rodents which are the number one carrier. I let them live.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:34:51 PM EDT

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FPNI, I'll let a buck walk if a coyote comes out. Shoot on sight is always the answer with them damn things.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:35:01 PM EDT

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I missed one on Monday. Perfect broadside 150yd shot, and I yanked it.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:36:04 PM EDT

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And rabbits,turkey,deer and anything else they can kill.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:36:55 PM EDT

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Depends on if you consider yourself a fellow Predator and part of the food chain.

If you don't mind dropping out of the competition for prey, then you can let the Coyote run his course.

If you want to be the top predator and have prey, he has to go.

The way it's always been.

There can be only one.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:36:59 PM EDT

[#26]

Dead for a ducat.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:39:12 PM EDT

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That’s how we deal with those vermin in Ohio.

When I was shooting at my in-laws and the farmer that owns the land next to them stopped by and told me that I had full permission to kill any coyotes I see on his land. We hate the coyote in Ohio...

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:39:32 PM EDT

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Coyotes will lure your dog into the woods, then the pack will kill and eat it. I will kill every one that I can find.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:40:15 PM EDT

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You won't make any kind of a dent in the population by shooting them.
It's takes a control effort with traps, M44s, and aerial gunning to have any kind of measurable effect on a population.

In a lot of areas, fawns are the #1 food source for coyotes in late spring/ early summer. It is what it is.

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Tremors 3: Back to Perfection - All Shriekers scenes in CGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4f2WOEuST4

A whitetail hunting group I follow on facebook are huge into yote hunts. They had a contest, like legit sign up and all, and killed like 200 in a weekend. Lots of thermal vision scope video of them hunting at night.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:41:21 PM EDT

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I don't care what else I'm doing if I come across a coyote it gets deaded.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:43:10 PM EDT

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Schwack 'Em!

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:43:15 PM EDT

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So do owls, hawks, snakes, etc.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:43:27 PM EDT

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Damn. What breed if I may ask?

(I'm curious how large an animal coyotes will and can kill.)

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:44:01 PM EDT

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That takes the cake as the most stupid thing with the worst optics for non-hunters that I've ever seen posted here.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:45:37 PM EDT

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After one got the farm dog and terrorized the horses, the lead will fly

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:46:01 PM EDT

[#36]

Terminate, with extreme prejudice.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:46:26 PM EDT

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Doesn't matter. Studies have shown that their population stays about the same no matter the level of predation.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:47:19 PM EDT

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This.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:47:32 PM EDT

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You won't make any kind of a dent in the population by shooting them.
It's takes a control effort with traps, M44s, and possibly, aerial gunning to have any kind of measurable effect on a population.

In a lot of areas, fawns are the #1 food source for coyotes in late spring/ early summer. It is what it is.

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The more they are hunted the more they fear humans. I'm in the kill every one you see camp.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:47:33 PM EDT

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Damn. What breed if I may ask?

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Jumping out of line but ours was a lab/rottie mix about 80lbs, a little old but a damn good dog.
Picked her up on the road on the way back from a sale.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:47:53 PM EDT

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I'm not a hunter, but I will kill any coyote that comes within range. Fuck them.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:50:44 PM EDT

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Jumping out of line but ours was a lab/rottie mix about 80lbs, a little old but a damn good dog.
Picked her up on the road on the way back from a sale.

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Damn. What breed if I may ask?

(I'm curious how large an animal coyotes will and can kill.)

Jumping out of line but ours was a lab/rottie mix about 80lbs, a little old but a damn good dog.
Picked her up on the road on the way back from a sale.

How many coyotes does it take to attack an 80lb dog?

Or is one that bold?

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:52:23 PM EDT

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Most states have a bounty on them. Kill with impunity, keep the ears for cash.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:52:53 PM EDT

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FPNI. They killed my favorite dog and its been on every since. Fuck ‘em all with extreme prejudice.

Damn. What breed if I may ask?

(I'm curious how large an animal coyotes will and can kill.)

My stepmothers 2yo Jack Russell was attacked by two in their back yard, he put up a hell of fight but in the end it was a yoga on each end toting him into the woods.,she watched from her mothers yard a few hundred yards away.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:52:56 PM EDT

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I always understood coyote packs to be self-regulating. Typically, only the dominant male and female breed, and the fertility window is very narrow. One week in February. During this time in heat, the dominate female will not let her daughters/sisters breed with any of the males.

If the social hierarchy is changed by the death of one of the dominate couple, then in the near term the sister/daughters breed until the pack once again has an established hierarchy. If there is widespread mortality within the pack, they all breed and the pack is back up to it's natural territorial numbers in a year to 18 months.

Hence the idea - you really can't eliminate them from an area without destroying their habitat/food source or re-introducing other apex predators. Wolves can be real effective control on yotes. But, that's not really an option in most places.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:54:35 PM EDT

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How does FP always NI

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:55:31 PM EDT

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We lease some of our land out for cattle. The coyotes will wait for a cow to start birthing a calf and then they'll eat the calf while both are helpless.

All coyotes get shot on sight on our farm.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:56:04 PM EDT

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Shoot on sight. I listened to the presentation by the game biologist at the Ohio Deer & Turkey Expo last year about predation effects on deer herds. He said the coyotes moved in from the west and are here to stay, and DO affect the deer population. We plan on hunting the coyotes this winter if I can get the guys I deer hunt with to understand they need to be smarter about hunting a predator and not a deer.

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:57:44 PM EDT

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People hunt coyotes with dogs pretty regularly as well, because the coyotes will follow the dog in trying to get it until the yotes are in range. They are called decoy dogs.

Ton of vids on youtube

Posted: 11/15/2017 6:58:17 PM EDT

[#50]

Only good 'yote is a dead 'yote.

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