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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:04:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:04:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:09:33 PM EDT
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Wish there were legal/employment repercussions for people that habitually pass laws that are struck down as unconstitutional..
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:10:35 PM EDT
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There should come a time when this official misconduct loses the protection of "good faith," and these people should be personally liable for a constitutional tort. It truly is outrageous that they substitute one oppressive and illegal scheme after another, and lose in the courts every time. Imagine what would happen if a pro-life state passed one total ban on abortion after another, each in direct contravention of existing law. And yet here we have a right enshrined in our founding documents that is held in abject contempt by those whom we entrust to make the law. The Eastern Shore has plenty of chicken farms. I'm sure I can get feathers. You bring the tar.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:11:48 PM EDT
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Yes!
MD has been watching this one, since the "good and substantial" requirement here is equal levels of fucked (though bureaucratically easier to skirt if you have the connections). |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:15:15 PM EDT
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They will just make up some other bullshit reason and keep on trolling the court system. We should start hanging these assholes after the 1st law of theirs that receives an unconstitutional ruling.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:15:38 PM EDT
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules?
Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? 
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:16:26 PM EDT
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Wish there were legal/employment repercussions for people that habitually pass laws that are struck down as unconstitutional.. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:16:54 PM EDT
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? It probably means it now reverts to shall issue instead. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:21:10 PM EDT
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Wish there were legal/employment repercussions for people that habitually pass laws that are struck down as unconstitutional.. This. They just keep coming up with new schemes that have to be smacked down. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:38:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:40:29 PM EDT
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PLEASE GO TO SCOTUS!
GOODBYE SULLIVAN LAW! |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:41:10 PM EDT
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And next year they will get ordered for a third time............and on and on
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:41:16 PM EDT
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The only way this ruling does any good is if someone has the balls to arrest the people not following the law.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:41:26 PM EDT
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The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Thank you. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:42:22 PM EDT
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Apparently the basic human right of self-defense is not good enough for the heavily infested criminal kingdom.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:44:33 PM EDT
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Thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Thank you. I'm in if you're in: non-resident DC permit, here we come! 
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Posted: 5/17/2016 2:47:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish there were legal/employment repercussions for people that habitually pass laws that are struck down as unconstitutional.. There is in Florida. When state preemption passed making all local ordinances involving firearms null & void and holding local politicians personally and financially responsible for any contrary legislation, the city attorneys couldn't scrub the books fast enough. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:14:06 PM EDT
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There is in Florida. When state preemption passed making all local ordinances involving firearms null & void and holding local politicians personally and financially responsible for any contrary legislation, the city attorneys couldn't scrub the books fast enough. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wish there were legal/employment repercussions for people that habitually pass laws that are struck down as unconstitutional.. There is in Florida. When state preemption passed making all local ordinances involving firearms null & void and holding local politicians personally and financially responsible for any contrary legislation, the city attorneys couldn't scrub the books fast enough. That type of legislation would be welcomed in Illinois. Welcomed by the citizens anyway..... |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:15:35 PM EDT
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The only way this ruling does any good is if someone has the balls to arrest the people not following the law. Interesting isn't it, that when the government wants people to stop doing something they don't like (be it legal or illegal - it doesn't seem to matter), they will arrest them and force compliance through the use of financial and personal hardship; but when the government ignores the will and actual intent of the court and the people, there is no recourse but to let them to continue, without penalty, until eventually they are successful in their goals. In the interest of equality, these fuckers should be driven to personal and financial ruin using whatever means necessary. The "you may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride" approach to behavior modification would be appropriately ironic in cases such as these. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:16:29 PM EDT
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I'm in if you're in: non-resident DC permit, here we come!
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Thank you. I'm in if you're in: non-resident DC permit, here we come!
That is ultimately what I want.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:20:43 PM EDT
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The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." What about all the licenses that were denied before the injunction because they didn't meet the good reason requirement? How many will they actually issue while they are sorting this out? My guess is 0. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:24:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:27:08 PM EDT
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It always amazes me when good news comes out of DC.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:29:54 PM EDT
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Fuck DC
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:30:08 PM EDT
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I wonder if/how many put in "2nd Amendment" as the good reason...
I mean...that technically should be all the good reason you need  Or "'Murica!" |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:32:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:32:21 PM EDT
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Fuck DC X87 |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:33:01 PM EDT
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Wretched Hive of scum and villainy...
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:33:30 PM EDT
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I just sent a copy of the decision to my delegates and state senator. I think they monitor email when the GA is not in session. I asked them how they could stand for reelection when they have such obvious contempt for their constituents. We must be morally and intellectually inferior to our brothers in Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware. We are an island of reprobates floating in a sea of shall issue and constitutional carry.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:34:32 PM EDT
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Good Reason?
Because Reasons |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:34:34 PM EDT
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Government officials who break the law should be hold criminally liable. Also, before these fuck tards pass another unconstitutional law it should have to pass a court ordered litmus test. This constant flaunting legal judgements is ridiculous.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:35:07 PM EDT
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That is ultimately what I want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Thank you. I'm in if you're in: non-resident DC permit, here we come!
That is ultimately what I want. Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:39:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That is ultimately what I want. Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. Yes...yes we do. Unless you have a DD-214...then it's waved  |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:43:35 PM EDT
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Interesting isn't it, that when the government wants people to stop doing something they don't like (be it legal or illegal - it doesn't seem to matter), they will arrest them and force compliance through the use of financial and personal hardship; but when the government ignores the will and actual intent of the court and the people, there is no recourse but to let them to continue, without penalty, until eventually they are successful in their goals. In the interest of equality, these fuckers should be driven to personal and financial ruin using whatever means necessary. The "you may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride" approach to behavior modification would be appropriately ironic in cases such as these. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only way this ruling does any good is if someone has the balls to arrest the people not following the law. Interesting isn't it, that when the government wants people to stop doing something they don't like (be it legal or illegal - it doesn't seem to matter), they will arrest them and force compliance through the use of financial and personal hardship; but when the government ignores the will and actual intent of the court and the people, there is no recourse but to let them to continue, without penalty, until eventually they are successful in their goals. In the interest of equality, these fuckers should be driven to personal and financial ruin using whatever means necessary. The "you may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride" approach to behavior modification would be appropriately ironic in cases such as these. Tarring and feathering needs to make a comeback. Most of the proletariat think they can work their way out of anything else. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:49:31 PM EDT
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Yes...yes we do. Unless you have a DD-214...then it's waved
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That is ultimately what I want. Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. Yes...yes we do. Unless you have a DD-214...then it's waved
They allow on-line "training" now. I think it's $20 and takes no time. Then you print out a certificate and you're done. Easy peasy. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They allow on-line "training" now. I think it's $20 and takes no time. Then you print out a certificate and you're done. Easy peasy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That is ultimately what I want. Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. Yes...yes we do. Unless you have a DD-214...then it's waved They allow on-line "training" now. I think it's $20 and takes no time. Then you print out a certificate and you're done. Easy peasy. Is that just for VA or any person wanting a DC non resident can do that? |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Is that just for VA or any person wanting a DC non resident can do that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is ultimately what I want. Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. Yes...yes we do. Unless you have a DD-214...then it's waved
They allow on-line "training" now. I think it's $20 and takes no time. Then you print out a certificate and you're done. Easy peasy. Is that just for VA or any person wanting a DC non resident can do that? I don't know, sorry. 
All I know is that's what I did for my VA resident permit. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 3:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know, sorry. All I know is that's what I did for my VA resident permit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't us VA folks still need to take some dumb training class? Is that still a thing? I'd like to get my permit and carry again in DC. Yes...yes we do. Unless you have a DD-214...then it's waved They allow on-line "training" now. I think it's $20 and takes no time. Then you print out a certificate and you're done. Easy peasy. Is that just for VA or any person wanting a DC non resident can do that? I don't know, sorry. All I know is that's what I did for my VA resident permit. Ahh, thank you |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:08:42 PM EDT
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? let me know, I'll make time for a legal rendezvous in DC this time.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:14:15 PM EDT
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I wish they would challenge New York's 16 month wait time to get a permit to basically hunt with your pistol and same thing without a good cause they wont issue you a carry permit. These laws are insane.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:26:37 PM EDT
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And next year they will get ordered for a third time............and on and on go lay down....we got this. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:35:03 PM EDT
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Wish there were legal/employment repercussions for people that habitually pass laws that are struck down as unconstitutional.. Until the politicians and government officials suffer some personal impact, or have their re-election chances put in jeopardy, they're going to continue to do whatever the hell they want. People that live in DC, VA, and MD need to find a way to impose some personal cost on the people who continually ignore the second amendment. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:36:14 PM EDT
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Why the fuck can't this be applied nation wide? New York? California? New Jersey?
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:43:08 PM EDT
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Because this is America is all the reason you should need. Fucking commies.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 4:53:37 PM EDT
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I just sent a copy of the decision to my delegates and state senator. I think they monitor email when the GA is not in session. I asked them how they could stand for reelection when they have such obvious contempt for their constituents. We must be morally and intellectually inferior to our brothers in Virginia, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware. We are an island of reprobates floating in a sea of shall issue and constitutional carry. They think everyone hails from PG Co. and Baltimore.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 5:00:12 PM EDT
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And next year they will get ordered for a third time............and on and on Exactly. No penalties = we will still do what we want. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 5:05:49 PM EDT
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That is ultimately what I want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this an immediate hold on the current rules? Does that mean that - like last time - until they quickly pass some new rules, open and concealed carry is temporarily legal in D.C.? The case is still pending. The Plaintiff asked for - and got - a preliminary injunction. As of now DC is enjoined (prohibited) from "denying concealed carry licenses to applicants who meet all eligibility requirements other than the 'good reason' requirement." Thank you. I'm in if you're in: non-resident DC permit, here we come!
That is ultimately what I want. I'm in. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 5:15:08 PM EDT
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Exactly. No penalties = we will still do what we want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And next year they will get ordered for a third time............and on and on Exactly. No penalties = we will still do what we want. +1 But you'd better bake that go**amned cake... And we mean right now, mister. 
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