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Take your children out of these insidious public INDOC centers they label "Schools."
Your children would be better off reading chapter books at home than going to those places. I guarantee it. |
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Quoted: Whenever this kind of stuff comes up, just REMIND people that literally the only reason women’s sports exists (in the Olympics, college, pro, etc) is to protect women from competing with men, because they literally cannot. View Quote Dave Chappelle:If Lebron James changed his gender |
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View Quote Ewwwwwww |
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Our society has moved from providing equal opportunities to equal outcomes - and when the reality sets in that this is not the case, they just create a new reality.
These are symptoms of a culture that is deeply distressed |
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Quoted: Some women can be as strong as (or stronger than) some men. It’s not a universal. But that isn’t really the point. We aren’t competing. We compliment each other. View Quote Your point illustrated but the overlap probably isn't that generous. Attached File |
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My gf is tough as nails. She's a farrier. Which is very hard work and a male dominant business. She will be the first to call bullshit on woke equality nonsense. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses but a perfect example is I could easily carry her. She absolutely cannot carry me. When we hike I can pack double what she can and while she might hike faster.i can hike longer especially up a hill.
Our bodies are different because millions of years of evolution made us that way. Sure some corn fed giant woman can probably do everything I can do but she can't do everything some giant corn fed man can do. It's just life.... |
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Quoted: If you're saying a woman who trains can be as strong as a man who doesn't train or trains far below her level... sure. Otherwise, 100% wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: A woman can absolutely be as strong as a man, but I bet they won't be. If you're saying a woman who trains can be as strong as a man who doesn't train or trains far below her level... sure. Otherwise, 100% wrong. The statement as I wrote it is 100% correct. It was worded purposefully. |
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Hark back to that thread where many assured us that no one really believed that movie and TV crap about women being just a strong and physically capable as men.
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In rock climbing and mountaineering, women are near peer with men. Unless you are well off on the right hand side of the bell curve, expect to get rocked by some women, if not a lot of women.
But, none of these women will say that women are stronger than men. I don't even think they would say that they, themselves, are stronger than most men their size. They can out climb me, out hike me, they can be half my age, but even as below average as I am for an adult male, I'm 5'5", I don't think they'd fight me. Yes, admittedly, fighting is a rather stark and perhaps embarrassing way to frame this, but I think that's one of the most practical and true tests of "strength." It's been a long time since I was in a military environment, and there were far, far fewer females back then, so fewer to compare against. They weren't NCAA athletes, and only PFT competitive with the bottom of the barrel males. There was no comparison. Not back then. Decades later, I taught academic courses in a martial environment. I had female students who were NCAA athletes, club sport female power lifters, and so forth. While they may be top notch athletes, more skilled, perhaps faster, some even exceptionally well respected for their physical and leadership abilities by their male peers, I've never heard any of them say they are as strong, or stronger than a comparably size male - but, I have heard them say they weren't - and, it was a conversation that would come up regularly, even outside of training environments. |
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Quoted: I find women dont want to compliment anymore. they want this competition to prove how good women really are. that the gap is super close and they are just being kept down from their true potential. my wife doesnt think she is stronger than me at all but ill be damned if she will listen to a thing i say. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Some women can be as strong as (or stronger than) some men. It’s not a universal. But that isn’t really the point. We aren’t competing. We compliment each other. I find women dont want to compliment anymore. they want this competition to prove how good women really are. that the gap is super close and they are just being kept down from their true potential. my wife doesnt think she is stronger than me at all but ill be damned if she will listen to a thing i say. For a long time, feminine traits/activities/behaviors have been denigrated, dismissed, and ridiculed. “That’s GIRL stuff!” “Women…” “Stay-at-home moms are useless and lazy; I can do all that in virtually no time AND hold down a job!” When pretty much everything that is remotely feminine gets trash-talked or held up to a male standard and found wanting, it naturally follows that those seeking to show themselves as valuable and able to contribute will operate within a male framework for demonstrating that value. When there is no honor or respect for feminine things, they will be abandoned. |
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Quoted: Hark back to that thread where many assured us that no one really believed that movie and TV crap about women being just a strong and physically capable as men. View Quote I used to teach sports physiology a bit. I’ve had women genuinely triggered by the statement that women should expect roughly half the rate of muscle gain when working out, and that women have less upper body strength, etc. just basic sports differences between genders. Some were aghast that I would say such a thing, that it was some sexist bigoted statement. The world has gone mad. |
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Depends on what you mean by strong. Strong willed and driven? Perhaps. Emotionally strong and physically strong? No.
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OP, show her video of that guy posing as a woman to win swimming events.
Gather the data first on typical winning times for men and women and his standing among male swimmers. Just a guess but if he was ranked #100 as a male and #1 as a fake female it should help her accept reality. |
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OK, at surface value, have her look up the following or similar... and not necessarily in sports of "strength", but with 100+ years of effort and the best athletes of modern times.
Men vs. Womens Marathon world records - Men is like 20 minutes or 15% less Swimming, Mens record times are like 10-15% faster than women Weightlifting is a blowout Cycling - Mens records are all 10-15% better than the womens |
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Quoted: Women don’t piss out a kid from their piss hole. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Women are stronger than men. You try pissing out a kid from your piss hole. (FemalenNurse told me that and she made her point) Women don’t piss out a kid from their piss hole. How does it get out? And more importantly, how does it get in? |
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My middle daughter is almost sixteen and works on a farm on weekends and during the week in the summer slinging square bales, feed bags etc.
She's a tough kid and always willing to test her limits but she's had to accept that tools and technique are a more effective way for her to match requirements of some tasks. |
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You should have told her that only the women with dicks can be as strong as men.
I kid. Don’t do that. |
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Quoted: Your point illustrated but the overlap probably isn't that generous. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/178958/Capture_JPG-2451034.JPG View Quote It’s probably a lot more overlapped, in actually. I would say that , depending on physical task, men will typically perform 15% +/- 5% better than women given an identical percentile physique within their respective gender class. ie: a physically 85th percentile male will outperform an 85th percentile female by about 15%, give or take 5%. |
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Quoted: In rock climbing and mountaineering, women are near peer with men. Unless you are well off on the right hand side of the bell curve, expect to get rocked by some women, if not a lot of women. But, none of these women will say that women are stronger than men. I don't even think they would say that they, themselves, are stronger than most men their size. They can out climb me, out hike me, they can be half my age, but even as below average as I am for an adult male, I'm 5'5", I don't think they'd fight me. Yes, admittedly, fighting is a rather stark and perhaps embarrassing way to frame this, but I think that's one of the most practical and true tests of "strength." It's been a long time since I was in a military environment, and there were far, far fewer females back then, so fewer to compare against. They weren't NCAA athletes, and only PFT competitive with the bottom of the barrel males. There was no comparison. Not back then. Decades later, I taught academic courses in a martial environment. I had female students who were NCAA athletes, club sport female power lifters, and so forth. While they may be top notch athletes, more skilled, perhaps faster, some even exceptionally well respected for their physical and leadership abilities by their male peers, I've never heard any of them say they are as strong, or stronger than a comparably size male - but, I have heard them say they weren't - and, it was a conversation that would come up regularly, even outside of training environments. View Quote This post pretty much nails it. But if you take a random slice of Americana, a 115lb woman will typically be stronger than a 115lb man. At that weight, the woman will be in shape and the man will be a pencil necked geek or meth head. A 180lb man will be stronger than a 180lb woman. At that weight the man will more likely be in shape and the woman will be a fat cow. So then we look at the match ups for the people of Walmart. The 180lb female cow is likely stronger than her 115lb meth head boyfriend. Then go to the people of Arfcom. The 180lb man is likely stronger than his 115lb model girlfriend. The former couple outnumbers the latter. Far more people of Walmart than people of Arfcom. |
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Quoted: In rock climbing and mountaineering, women are near peer with men. Unless you are well off on the right hand side of the bell curve, expect to get rocked by some women, if not a lot of women. But, none of these women will say that women are stronger than men. I don't even think they would say that they, themselves, are stronger than most men their size. They can out climb me, out hike me, they can be half my age, but even as below average as I am for an adult male, I'm 5'5", I don't think they'd fight me. Yes, admittedly, fighting is a rather stark and perhaps embarrassing way to frame this, but I think that's one of the most practical and true tests of "strength." It's been a long time since I was in a military environment, and there were far, far fewer females back then, so fewer to compare against. They weren't NCAA athletes, and only PFT competitive with the bottom of the barrel males. There was no comparison. Not back then. Decades later, I taught academic courses in a martial environment. I had female students who were NCAA athletes, club sport female power lifters, and so forth. While they may be top notch athletes, more skilled, perhaps faster, some even exceptionally well respected for their physical and leadership abilities by their male peers, I've never heard any of them say they are as strong, or stronger than a comparably size male - but, I have heard them say they weren't - and, it was a conversation that would come up regularly, even outside of training environments. View Quote Women can have an advantage in things like climbing due largely to the leg to bodyweight ratio and that they start off climbing relying on their legs a lot more where men like to power their way through on upper body strength. |
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Go find a 13 year old boy and ask her to arm wrestle him or pick some weights up
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Should add a note that it is possible for women to be stronger than some men.
But for comparison sake it needs to be apples to apples, same sport or same dedication within a sport. Comparing some athletic woman to a man that does not put any importance into physical strength or athletics is not a fair comparison. |
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Quoted: How does it get out? And more importantly, how does it get in? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Women are stronger than men. You try pissing out a kid from your piss hole. (FemalenNurse told me that and she made her point) Women don’t piss out a kid from their piss hole. How does it get out? And more importantly, how does it get in? You do know women don’t “pee out of their vaginas”, right? … right?!? Attached File |
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Food for thought: the world record for female weight lifting (snatch, clean & jerk) is about 300lbs less than the world record for male weight lifting.
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Quoted: Been waiting on something like this happening. I told her I'll be one of the only people in her life that won't bullshit her, because I love her too much. She's 13 and we recently adopted her. Had a good discussion about how false that statement was, but in a way to not crush her either. Told her most people in her life are gonna feed her politically correct bullshit, things that sound good, but fly in the face of reality. And that the people that try to do that have good intentions, but are doing her a disservice. Comparing women to men is like comparing a sewing machine to a washing machine. They are too different to compare. Women can do so many things a man can't, and men can do so many things a woman can't. And that's ok. We're not here to compete with each other, but work in harmony with each other's strengths. View Quote Listen Bigot. You can't assume your daughter's gender. Are you a biologist? That's a great approach. I might use it myself, thanks |
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Quoted: Do you know any women who can raw bench press 500 lbs? The answer is no. Then they can't be as strong as men. Most men's powerlifting records are 80 to 100 percent higher than women's. Sorry you are wrong. View Quote And the best female powerlifter is stronger than 35% of men. Women can be just as strong as men |
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Women can do so many things a man can't, and men can do so many things a woman can't. And that's ok. We're not here to compete with each other, but work in harmony with each other's strengths.
Nailed it. I don’t know why this is so difficult for the left to understand |
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Most women have never experienced any sort of direct physical contest with a man.
I have been in multiple close quarters combat classes where women showed up. Even the very fit and very strong ones were usually surprised by what happened when the training evolutions dialed up the effort. I've seen grown men go to pieces when they were outmatched by someone bigger, stronger, or more skilled than they are, too...but it happened more frequently with women in those classes because when we were doing exercises at 50% intensity they were often going 100% and still couldn't do much with the dude who was essentially humoring them. Once the FIST helmets come out and the intensity gets turned up to near max level, they just get gooned unless they have excellent technique. And even in the more intense exercises dudes are holding back because they don't want to hurt the girl. I had one 90 pound girl tell me one time "I hate it when guys go easy in these things!", to which I responded "If I don't, I'd kill you. I weigh 2.5 times what you do. If I suddenly drop all my weight on your rib cage I could put you in the ICU." To quote an ex girlfriend "I have to work my ass off and lift so heavy I can't move to maybe have a little more than half the strength you have just by sitting on the couch eating Cheetos." If one wanted to conduct an experiment, go to an event and randomly grab 1,000 males between the age of 15 and 60 and have them attempt to deadlift a bar with two 45 pound plates on it. Do the same with a random assortment of females between 15 and 60. The percentage of males who can accomplish that will be orders of magnitude higher than the females. And the females that can do it will generally be physical outliers in their sex. Physics is not social conditioning. Most women in our society have never actually felt that difference for themselves. They maybe tussled with brothers when they were kids or something and that's it...but actually having a man use the full measure of his power on them is beyond the understanding most have because we don't beat the shit out of our women, here. Joe Rogan - Amanda Nunes Hits Like a Dude That's the reality of it. "She hits like a dude." Yeah. The girl in that video suffered a TBI because she got hit by an exceptionally skilled female....even being an exceptionally skilled female herself. And she is forced to describe it as: "She hit like a dude." |
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Lmao, no.
You usually see naive ideas like this in areas where the leftie-woke-religiious groupthink is strong, and in office environment types where 1) There's a HIGH ratio of soyboy men, who spend much of their time avoiding upsetting the low-agreeableness womyn (Cause that'll take their jobs) 2) Those assumptions aren't getting tested. 3) BONUS: Unmarried women. IMHO a lot of wives get a glimpse into it There's a concept they call Husband-Strong. When her very normal househusband "picks up the couch, with her on it", and her mind is blown. When his best buddy the gymrat comes over to help with a chore/task, and they watch him pick the heavy thing up by himself, carry it off the truck, and walk it up the stairs. Those (usually single) office-dwelling women surrounded by manlets and soyboys, usually have no concept of the gaps between men in terms of physical capacity, they have no frame of reference for how far away they are from the main event. |
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Sher needs to know that these tiny women you see on TV and the movies will not be kicking most men around, that would be men that are healthy.
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Quoted: Yet very few women kill with guns. I don't think guns are the great equalizer you think they are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It’s kind of irrelevant since guns have been invented. A bullet shoots just as dead regardless of whether a woman pulls the trigger or a man. Yet very few women kill with guns. I don't think guns are the great equalizer you think they are. Sure they are. It is 100% fact to say that a gun does the same damage regardless of whether a man pulls the trigger or a woman. There are many reasons women don’t kill as much as men, but none of it has to do with the deadliness of the gun changing depending on who pulls the trigger. If part of the conversation with your daughter wasn’t that she could equalize the strength disadvantage by learning to shoot, you missed a golden opportunity. |
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Quoted: It’s kind of irrelevant since guns have been invented. A bullet shoots just as dead regardless of whether a woman pulls the trigger or a man. View Quote |
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Quoted: View Quote Note also, She may have had experiences in the not-so-distant past where she was right. BUT. She's just getting out of the age phase where, for a while, girls and boys had similar strength. Puberty is hitting at 12+, and testosterone/HGH are flooding into males, so they are going to increase their muscle/strength twice as fast as her for the next 6+ years straight. The overlap charts are also good true scientific measurements. |
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Quoted: Heard an interview of a woman whos' daughter is a competitive swimmer. She said that at ages 8-10 the girls are so much better than boys that par times to qualify for matches is stricter than for the boys. By ages 13-14 that changes and the girls can no longer compete with/match the boys. View Quote |
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