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Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:11:54 PM EDT
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Who could have possibly seen this coming? We need Nostradamus back.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:15:56 PM EDT
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Yup, almost zero white people are joining the Army these days.....


From Infantry and Cav Scouts reception in January.  Almost zero white people!


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You should learn what a strawman argument is.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:18:28 PM EDT
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You illustrate their problem with your photo.  Whites are over represented in combat arms, that is why they are worried with the decline of whites.
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Correct.  Go to Ft. Jackson and see what the demographics are there.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:20:49 PM EDT
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Whitey says fuck you . And that was that .
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:22:08 PM EDT
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The sad thing is that when I was enlisted back in the 80's, it was completely colorblind.  The structure of the military kinda makes it that way by default.  They had to go out of their way to break it.
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Why would anyone in their right mind join the military today, especially whites?


The sad thing is that when I was enlisted back in the 80's, it was completely colorblind.  The structure of the military kinda makes it that way by default.  They had to go out of their way to break it.
You obviously did not get the memo. The woke cult has decreed that being colorblind and not judging people based on their ethnicity or skin color is inherently racist! Ergo the color blind meritocracy had to go.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:30:59 PM EDT
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I remember when my dad was up for CSM back in the 90s. They shitted on him and selected based on melanin rather than competence and qualification. He had been 1SGT in a CA Bde, and he just checked out and went to a school unit until he retired. Waste of a great man.
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 I did 5 years as a 19D. My ex BIL did 30 and retired a CSM. His brother was passed up 3 times for minorities to go to ANOC.
 He said F it I'm out. This was the mid 90's, he got a civilian contractor gig and went to Kosovo and made bank doing the same thing  he did wearing a uniform, maintaining helos.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:44:47 PM EDT
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Yes it does.  Hopefully it won’t be disastrous in some way or another but I’m not optimistic.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 3:50:20 PM EDT
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Why would I tell my son to serve for a country that hates him.
We’ll be making our own way, thank you.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:08:27 PM EDT
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According to documents obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation, the military's recruiting crisis is now its worst in 50 years — worse than at the height of the Iraq War — and the decline is almost entirely from a drop in white recruitment.

The U.S. military is powerful, but it is fragile too. A large share of recruits have consistently come from a small slice of the population: Middle Americans whose fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers all served their country.

Now, open borders and globalization has gutted many of the communities that produced those recruits, leaving millions of young men who are too addicted, too obese, or too dysfunctional to serve. Meanwhile, years of politicizing the military means that those young men who would have served in the past have gotten the message: Stay away. The military doesn't want you. It hates you, your values, and your way of life.

Why should we be surprised the military can't fill its ranks anymore?


https://dailycaller.com/2024/02/13/exclusive-a-huge-blow-decline-in-white-recruits-fueling-the-militarys-worst-ever-recruiting-crisis-data-shows/

Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:10:53 PM EDT
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Why would I tell my son to serve for a country that hates him.
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Indeed.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:35:29 PM EDT
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That's fucking retarded.

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Disagree?

See OTHER flags prominently flying at the White House?  Note the decline of the National Anthem? You see the rise of Americans who HATE America?  You see the foundational pillars of our country (family, church, etc) crumbling?  

The sad fact is the numbers of Americans who love America is shrinking.  Some of it might simply be apathy but I believe this is deliberate.  Regardless the fact remains more people aren't willing to find and die for this country than previous generations.  By design.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:37:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:42:26 PM EDT
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A significant part of the reduction in recruitment is from families of service.  

Thirty years ago, 40 percent of recruits had a parent who served.  That figure was down to 15% in 2018, and is apparently still dropping.  DEI polices that disparage white males simply by virtue of their gender and skin color, coupled with rapidly accelerating woke policies, have created the impression that national defense is no longer the military's priority, and that white males who enlist are likely to face at least harassment, if not also outright discrimination.  Couple that situation with the sudden and poorly planned withdrawal from Afghanistan and you end up with many patriotic families who no longer encourage their children to join, because why would they?  Hell, you have senior military leaders in the Biden admin saying they don't want a recruit pipeline fed by a "warrior caste" (i.e., children of veterans).

But there is another major factor that has significantly affected recruitment and that has not received much attention - the fielding of the Military Health System Genesis, which arrived at recruit-processing centers in March 2022

Why?  

Well, the short version is that it integrates with civilian medical record systems, like MyChart, and the result is that a large number of recruits are being filtered for conditions that would have gone undetected previously, because recruits would have done what we have always done.  Lied.  But no longer.  You were prescribed Ritalin for ADHD at 16, or Zoloft for anxiety? Broke a bone snowboarding that's since healed?  Had a cortisone injection for a shoulder you torqued playing HS football?  Now they know. They know it all.  And it is filtering out a number of recruits that would have gotten in prior to that rollout.

The linked article is a good read, but here is one nugget from it:


The result is that the system is now disproportionately filtering out recruits whose parents routinely took them to doctors for preventive care and to treat various ailments.  That's the irony.  A kid who was never taken to the doctor has zero black marks on their medical record at MEPS.  

And there is a racial component because white kids are twice as likely to be treated for mental health conditions as black kids.  The reasons why are a separate discussion, but the result is that your average white kid is more likely to enter MEPS with one or more medical strikes against them when many black and Latino kids come in with a clean medical slate.  Not 100% true, of course, but it is a significant factor that is not getting much attention, because it would require military leaders to acknowledge that the rollout of the medical system has had unintended adverse consequences, and that previously the military relied on recruits lying, often prompted by their recruiter.  Recruits like JFK.  And me.  
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Good post, I actually came here to quote this...just finished reading a long report on what Genesis is doing, and it's actually throwing so much sand into the gears I'm surprised the recruiting service isn't up in arms over it. At some point they're going to have to start putting much less restrictive discriminators in the system. Broke a bone over three years ago? No fucks given, if it's still a problem the doctors at MEPS should catch it. That kind of thing.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:43:16 PM EDT
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Disagree?

See OTHER flags prominently flying at the White House?  Note the decline of the National Anthem? You see the rise of Americans who HATE America?  You see the foundational pillars of our country (family, church, etc) crumbling?  

The sad fact is the numbers of Americans who love America is shrinking.  Some of it might simply be apathy but I believe this is deliberate.  Regardless the fact remains more people aren't willing to find and die for this country than previous generations.  By design.
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That's fucking retarded.



Disagree?

See OTHER flags prominently flying at the White House?  Note the decline of the National Anthem? You see the rise of Americans who HATE America?  You see the foundational pillars of our country (family, church, etc) crumbling?  

The sad fact is the numbers of Americans who love America is shrinking.  Some of it might simply be apathy but I believe this is deliberate.  Regardless the fact remains more people aren't willing to find and die for this country than previous generations.  By design.


There are certainly more UN-patriotic people, but that doesn't make the other true.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 4:51:47 PM EDT
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The diversity the .mil wants.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:09:32 PM EDT
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History of The Decline and Fall of the(insert next Empire/Republic here).

If only there were a history or something so we could avoid known pitfalls.
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Avoiding the pitfalls is why some of us study real history. Most are functionally illiterate and/or caught up in the Pop/Woke/Socialist counterculture war. They are so lost they will spend the rest of their lives trying to find themselves.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:14:32 PM EDT
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History of The Decline and Fall of the(insert next Empire/Republic here).

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If you really want to know, here is a great place to start.

https://online.hillsdale.edu
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:27:04 PM EDT
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Must be that "white rage" the SECDEF was blathering about.

Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:32:29 PM EDT
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The sad thing is that when I was enlisted back in the 80's, it was completely colorblind.  The structure of the military kinda makes it that way by default.  They had to go out of their way to break it.
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That was my experience as well when I enlisted in 2006. Everything was completely merit based and I was damn proud to be a part of such an organization. Not the same today unfortunately, and it's even worse now that I'm on the O side of the house. I can't wait to retire
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:35:58 PM EDT
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A close relative of mine has been tasked to do a deep dive apolitical, no holds bard, “be as controversial as you want” study on recruitment and retention woes that plague the Army. Can’t wait to see the results. As a previous poster stated, Genesis has a major part to play.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:41:42 PM EDT
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Forcing a bullshit experimental drug on them under threat of life wrecking dishonorable discharge while telling them they are oppressors of everyone not a straight white male will do that. My oldest went through that abominable treatment and this woke faggot military we have now won’t get to shit on any more of my kids if I have anything to say about it. A family tradition of service dating back to one of Gen Washington’s aide de camps is ending unless this country unfucks itself and becomes worthy of serving again.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:45:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:53:31 PM EDT
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The average age of an infantryman on the front lines of Ukraine for the Ukraine army is 43 years old.

Demographics have changed.  

Middle age men in the USA better start taking their health and physical fitness more seriously. Can't rest knowing that the young guys can handle all the fighting now.

I'll tell you what too, a lot of young men are very physically frail.  I've got friends in Law Enforcement and I've seen it myself in martial arts that you've got young guys with twig arms and bones that break like you wouldn't believe. My good friend who is an LEO says they're having a hard time getting Gen Z through police academies and when they show up at a department they'll all but useless basically.   Maybe it's just the young guys I'm seeing, but they get injured a Hell of a lot more easily than I remember kids getting injured when I was their age.   I honestly think bone density might be an issue with a larger percentage of young men.

I'm in my mid 40's and I can lift more weight, run longer (I do 10k three times a week), and I can roll longer in BJJ than most the guys in their early 20's I'm coming across.  That's with all my injuries over the years and little issues (shoulder, knee, forearm).   As cool as that is for me it's also a little concerning.  

Link Posted: 2/13/2024 5:57:37 PM EDT
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A close relative of mine has been tasked to do a deep dive apolitical, no holds bard, “be as controversial as you want” study on recruitment and retention woes that plague the Army. Can’t wait to see the results. As a previous poster stated, Genesis has a major part to play.
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Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:15:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:25:26 PM EDT
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A close relative of mine has been tasked to do a deep dive apolitical, no holds bard, “be as controversial as you want” study on recruitment and retention woes that plague the Army. Can’t wait to see the results. As a previous poster stated, Genesis has a major part to play.
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They realize if they put the truth in that report, they will see their career destroyed, right?  TPTB already know why, your relative is being set up to be a scapegoat.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:28:14 PM EDT
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Patriotism is almost dead.

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Government is wacky and a challenge to serve , citizens don’t support the military.

Thankfully there are still some that still decided to serve. Shit could be a lot worse if we had no armed forces.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:33:02 PM EDT
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My son is 17 and was in jrotc. He's doing electrical/welding now

NO way in hell I'm approving of him fighting for this .gov

Afghanistan was the conflict when I was 18; look how that turned out
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:34:22 PM EDT
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Why would anyone in their right mind join the military today, especially whites?
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You can be in your right mind and still be dumb as a rock. This is not new.
When I was growing up, the military was where you went if you fucked up and didn't want to do time.
Think Grenada War era.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:38:36 PM EDT
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I have a feeling most of the illegals have no desire to join the US military, they are here to work and game the system.
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Illegals can’t even pass the ASVAB and security clearance investigation nightmares
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:39:06 PM EDT
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I can tell you that working in a Command Section before I retired end of 2020, that the military was and most likely has become increasingly overly friendly with DEI.

Diversity is our strength. - Literally verbatim of current culture.

They are bleeding experience at 20 years.
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All done on purpose to create this problem so they can justify the draft, IMO
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If they are even half intelligent, they don't want a draft. The American populace is severely disenfranchised with the ruling government already, trying to force them into conscription would set off a powder keg that even they don't want.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:46:12 PM EDT
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White people constitute about 65% of the population of America but any industry that is represented by 50% white people (or maybe even less) is often derided as "not diverse" or, even worse, "racist."
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With the exception of the NFL, NBA and MLB.

The NBA is 82% black and 17% white.  The racist culture of the NBA has led to massive under represented demographics.

This must change.

Diversify the NBA!!!
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If they are even half intelligent, they don't want a draft. The American populace is severely disenfranchised with the ruling government already, trying to force them into conscription would set off a powder keg that even they don't want.
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they could force me to fight, they just couldn't define the enemy for me.
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Biden to sign bill allowing illegal aliens to join the military and earn citizenship upon completion of basic training.



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Service equals citizenship
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:53:13 PM EDT
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From the DC criminal enterprise"  F you whiteys!  So do want to join our racist military now?  

Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:54:35 PM EDT
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Defend a Country and be sent to die by a .gov that tells you, to your face!:    that you are evil, that you are to blame for the ills of society, that you are what's wrong, that you shouldn't be allowed success, that your merits should be discounted, that you are racist, that everything you hold dear was stolen by you and your kind, that you should be replaced.

"Oh noes! We can't figure it out."
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Perfectly put.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:57:42 PM EDT
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A close relative of mine has been tasked to do a deep dive apolitical, no holds bard, “be as controversial as you want” study on recruitment and retention woes that plague the Army. Can’t wait to see the results. As a previous poster stated, Genesis has a major part to play.
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Would love to see this when completed.  

Please post if you can.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 6:59:36 PM EDT
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Which MOS’s have the lowest ASVAB score requirement?
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:00:36 PM EDT
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A close relative of mine has been tasked to do a deep dive apolitical, no holds bard, "be as controversial as you want" study on recruitment and retention woes that plague the Army. Can't wait to see the results. As a previous poster stated, Genesis has a major part to play.
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The chances of any report that tells the ugly truth actually seeing the light of day is precisely ZERO.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:03:09 PM EDT
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Space Force is probably stealing all the white guys.

Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:07:27 PM EDT
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I am a male line descendent of men who have fought for this country since the american revolution, which was one guy who foreswore his amish/mennonite faith to fight for this country. While my family no longer qualifies as 'white' we still have served.


that said, i get it. why would anyone want to be sent




Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:14:32 PM EDT
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Don’t really know why this is a news story.

Army has had this goal for a long time.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:26:02 PM EDT
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It's funny how the dominate predator on this planet is a group of like-minded White Christian Males with a common goal in mind, is not only what they recruited prior, but then REJECTED via a forced Covid vax, and are now saying waaaaiiiiiit…. We need you to fight China and Russia.
FU we need our team to fight communism on our own home turf.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:28:53 PM EDT
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Biden to sign bill allowing illegal aliens to join the military and earn citizenship upon completion of basic training.



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Service guarantees citizenship.

Would you like to know more?
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:32:45 PM EDT
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It's funny how the dominate predator on this planet is a group of like-minded White Christian Males with a common goal in mind, is not only what they recruited prior, but then REJECTED via a forced Covid vax, and are now saying waaaaiiiiiit…. We need you to fight China and Russia.
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That’s probably coming next which would explain moves being made to get out ahead of it .
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:38:16 PM EDT
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if they were not trying to destroy the country.  Would round up all the illegals crossing and make penal units.  shoot deserters.  and they serve for 7 years, no pay,  no instant citizenship.


your theory more likely to happen sadly.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:38:43 PM EDT
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A close relative of mine has been tasked to do a deep dive apolitical, no holds bard, “be as controversial as you want” study on recruitment and retention woes that plague the Army. Can’t wait to see the results. As a previous poster stated, Genesis has a major part to play.
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9 months ago I got out at 17 years with great evaluations - just couldn't compromise myself for another 3 years for a retirement check.

If they want some REAL no holds barred feedback I can provide  a large amount of feedback.  I kept detailed notes.
Link Posted: 2/13/2024 7:52:14 PM EDT
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My son is currently an Army ds I think we might have bigger issues than the color of their skin. They have a dude who no speaks english, one who is 40yo, a hand full mid 30s
and a bunch of brain dead fat kids. This was the first week and they are dropping like flies not to mention they couldn't even form 4 platoons with the amount that showed up.

We is Fucked!
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