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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:14:59 PM EDT
[#1]
When I had a body camera, the only people that were able to access the storage device (and subsequently edit, delete, etc. the footage) were the Chief and our head IT person.
Not really sure they serve their intended purpose very well if the person wearing it can delete it themselves... regardless of how much I hated the idea of Big Brother being next to me at every call, having it only helped me. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:17:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I had a body camera, the only people that were able to access the storage device (and subsequently edit, delete, etc. the footage) were the Chief and our head IT person. Not really sure they serve their intended purpose very well if the person wearing it can delete it themselves... regardless of how much I hated the idea of Big Brother being next to me at every call, having it only helped me. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:17:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. I didn’t realize you could actually “make” a cop violate your rights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's a professional, but the other guy shouldn't have put him in a position to violate his rights. Interesting. I didn’t realize you could actually “make” a cop violate your rights. This is like those damn women wearing mini-skirts and such, forcing men to rape them . . . . |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:22:01 PM EDT
[#4]
So asking someone to respect your personal space is now against the law, and considered "Breach of Peace"?
 What happened to social distancing? 
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:22:37 PM EDT
[#5]
Wow, some of you guys on the cop's side are crazy. Yes, the auditor is probably a shitbag, however the COP is more of a shitbag. Just because someone has a badge does not mean they get to assault someone. I am seeing way too many of these videos anymore to think it's "just a few bad apples". People in law enforcement must do more to be better at their jobs.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:37:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, some of you guys on the cop's side are crazy. Yes, the auditor is probably a shitbag, however the COP is more of a shitbag. Just because someone has a badge does not mean they get to assault someone. I am seeing way too many of these videos anymore to think it's "just a few bad apples". People in law enforcement must do more to be better at their jobs. If one of the employees really did "call their husband" and it was in fact this officer, that makes his actions even worse, as it would be completely retaliatory in nature. Based on the officer's demeanor, it seems pretty clear he wasn't there to just ask a few questions. He intended to intimidate, arrest, and/or assault the auditor from the start. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:38:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So asking someone to respect your personal space is now against the law, and considered "Breach of Peace"? What happened to social distancing? The guy should have politely requested six feet of space. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:38:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Exactly "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. So being held accountable undermines traditional western civilization? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:38:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Exactly "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. So being held accountable undermines traditional western civilization? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:39:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't. In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well hell, let's hear your debate. Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't. In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. I feel like we now know the username of the cop in the video. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:41:04 PM EDT
[#11]
POS cop should be removed, I'm not surprised the bootlickers are here.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:54:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So being held accountable undermines traditional western civilization? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. So being held accountable undermines traditional western civilization? No, I think he's clearly saying that law enforcement are the ones undermining traditional western civilization. He just missed a comma.  "... anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization, such as law enforcement." |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really shouldn't record either. Even though the law often says you can. The law in most places says you can go around calling everyone you meet a cocksucking piece of shit too. But again, you really shouldn't. Legally, the cop is wrong here, and the POS "auditor" is likely right (even though none of them seem to know what "easement" really means). But, as I am not involved in the adjudication of this mess, I can follow my heart instead of my head, and just say that I wish the property owner had physically removed the idiot with the camera with no repercussion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Live their lives, or conduct public business in public? You really shouldn't record either. Even though the law often says you can. The law in most places says you can go around calling everyone you meet a cocksucking piece of shit too. But again, you really shouldn't. Legally, the cop is wrong here, and the POS "auditor" is likely right (even though none of them seem to know what "easement" really means). But, as I am not involved in the adjudication of this mess, I can follow my heart instead of my head, and just say that I wish the property owner had physically removed the idiot with the camera with no repercussion. The auditor was on public property. Again, you want him physically removed from a public place by random people. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:25:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Boorish, rude, provocative behavior in public... You talking about the cop or the auditor? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Right up until a few decades ago, Western civilization was also not only allowed, but encouraged, to put checks and balanced on boorish, rude, provocative behavior in public as well. Boorish, rude, provocative behavior in public... You talking about the cop or the auditor? The one who committed assault bc he wasn't being respected. Duh. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:27:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To save everybody some trouble, it's a video by one of those "audits" douchebags. This. These guys go looking for trouble. 
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:33:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The auditor was on public property. Again, you want him physically removed from a public place by random people. Source on the property? The narrator said he was on an easement. My easements have restrictions for their use. NONE of them are for the public to freely access. So, what is it in this case? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:39:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't. In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. So, if you and I are out in public and I see you do something with which I find fault, I should have the right to beat you into a fucking coma with a Louisville Slugger, even if the act you commit is perfectly legal and you have every legal right to be where you were? You might want to review Tennessee Code Annotated 39-13-101, as it says your idea is a crime. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:39:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Source on the property? The narrator said he was on an easement. My easements have restrictions for their use. NONE of them are for the public to freely access. So, what is it in this case? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The auditor was on public property. Again, you want him physically removed from a public place by random people. Source on the property? The narrator said he was on an easement. My easements have restrictions for their use. NONE of them are for the public to freely access. So, what is it in this case? You don't have a sidewalk? You've never seen people walking on the side of the road where there is no sidewalk? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:46:20 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't have a sidewalk? You've never seen people walking on the side of the road where there is no sidewalk? That isn't an easement. It is public property. The public property extends until it hits private property. An easement would allow someone other than the owner to access it. But no, none of my properties have personal sidewalks with a public easement. ETA- The parcel map is messed up, but the line for all of the other roadway lines would show the guy was on public property. Not an easement. If you look at the video where the fire hydrant is, it looks to be about 10' inside the property line of the business. ETA2- Official GIS city map showing the lines and the guy was on public property  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:46:40 PM EDT
[#20]
I’ve encountered a couple. One just wanted to take a video of the parking lot and break area.
 He king of walked around whispering something to himself. The second guy came up asking legal questions and my opinion on the constitution. I suggested he contact an attorney trained to provide legal advice. He got pushy saying he was testing me as a public servant and demanded responses. I politely refused to participate in his test citing my freedom not to take unwanted exams. He got frustrated and went away. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:56:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t say it's okay, BUT... If you go around asking for trouble, it'll find you. Frankly, this looks like a case of 2 dumbasses colliding. Except, one is going to get paid, and one (should) be getting fired. The cop was a complete moron. LEO like that need to be culled from the job. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:58:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That isn't an easement. It is public property. The public property extends until it hits private property. An easement would allow someone other than the owner to access it. But no, none of my properties have personal sidewalks with a public easement. ETA- The parcel map is messed up, but the line for all of the other roadway lines would show the guy was on public property. Not an easement. If you look at the video where the fire hydrant is, it looks to be about 10' inside the property line of the business. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You don't have a sidewalk? You've never seen people walking on the side of the road where there is no sidewalk? That isn't an easement. It is public property. The public property extends until it hits private property. An easement would allow someone other than the owner to access it. But no, none of my properties have personal sidewalks with a public easement. ETA- The parcel map is messed up, but the line for all of the other roadway lines would show the guy was on public property. Not an easement. If you look at the video where the fire hydrant is, it looks to be about 10' inside the property line of the business. That sounds like a great thing to have a conversation about rather than assaulting the guy, illegally arresting him, and tampering with evidence. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:02:29 PM EDT
[#23]
It took me about 10 seconds to recognize where in Florence that is. I grew up there in the 60s, 70s and 80s. The only family still there are in Mt Hope. I am really glad my Dad is not around to see this crap.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:03:51 PM EDT
[#24]
It would have been really funny if the guy with the camera asked the cop if his wife had called him and said he was there. I wonder what his reply would have been? The cop needs to be fired, and then charged with some level of batter on the camera guy also, IMHO.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:04:57 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do cops like the one in the video exist because of "first ammendment auditors"? Or do "first ammendment auditors" exist because of cops like the one in the video? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To save everybody some trouble, it's a video by one of those "audits" douchebags. Do cops like the one in the video exist because of "first ammendment auditors"? Or do "first ammendment auditors" exist because of cops like the one in the video? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:05:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t say it's okay, BUT... If you go around asking for trouble, it'll find you. Frankly, this looks like a case of 2 dumbasses colliding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then it's okay? Didn’t say it's okay, BUT... If you go around asking for trouble, it'll find you. Frankly, this looks like a case of 2 dumbasses colliding. One "dumbass" has the power of law enforcement. If he does not act in a professional way, then he can cost the taxpayers of the city/county 6 to 7 figures. There's no excuse for bad behavior from him. There's definitely not an excuse if he destroyed evidence related to his bad actions. I'm not worried about the other "dumbass" as long as he doesn't break the law, "auditor" or not... |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:17:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. These guys go looking for trouble. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To save everybody some trouble, it's a video by one of those "audits" douchebags. This. These guys go looking for trouble. That officer was most definitely looking to start trouble. He arrived with the intent to intimidate, arrest, and/or assault that man. He looked like a pitbull going after a toddler. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:18:09 PM EDT
[#28]
"HEY, GO CALL YOUR HUSBAND"
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:25:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't really matter. One of them came asking for trouble, one came looking for trouble. They both got what they wanted, and probably went home happy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do cops like the one in the video exist because of "first ammendment auditors"? Or do "first ammendment auditors" exist because of cops like the one in the video? Doesn't really matter. One of them came asking for trouble, one came looking for trouble. They both got what they wanted, and probably went home happy. One needs to lose his job and be charged with assault. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:28:08 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You really shouldn't record either. Even though the law often says you can. The law in most places says you can go around calling everyone you meet a cocksucking piece of shit too. But again, you really shouldn't. Legally, the cop is wrong here, and the POS "auditor" is likely right (even though none of them seem to know what "easement" really means). But, as I am not involved in the adjudication of this mess, I can follow my heart instead of my head, and just say that I wish the property owner had physically removed the idiot with the camera with no repercussion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Live their lives, or conduct public business in public? You really shouldn't record either. Even though the law often says you can. The law in most places says you can go around calling everyone you meet a cocksucking piece of shit too. But again, you really shouldn't. Legally, the cop is wrong here, and the POS "auditor" is likely right (even though none of them seem to know what "easement" really means). But, as I am not involved in the adjudication of this mess, I can follow my heart instead of my head, and just say that I wish the property owner had physically removed the idiot with the camera with no repercussion. Sounds like you are attacking the guy following the law and defending the guy breaking the law...Interesting approach. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:31:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So being held accountable undermines traditional western civilization? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Exactly "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. So being held accountable undermines traditional western civilization? His statement is pretty humorous when you think about it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:34:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Source on the property? The narrator said he was on an easement. My easements have restrictions for their use. NONE of them are for the public to freely access. So, what is it in this case? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The auditor was on public property. Again, you want him physically removed from a public place by random people. Source on the property? The narrator said he was on an easement. My easements have restrictions for their use. NONE of them are for the public to freely access. So, what is it in this case? Well, He was not charged with any form of trespass... so |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:35:22 PM EDT
[#33]
Florence is a ghetto shit hole
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:35:26 PM EDT
[#34]
Me in 2019: The guy was causing a problem, and shouldn’t have been a pain in the cop’s ass.
Me today: CoC |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:37:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, He was not charged with any form of trespass... so I'm still curious about how he was arrested for Breach of Peace, but charged with Third Degree Assault. Who did he assault? Did he punch the officer in the fist with his face or something? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:38:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That isn't an easement. It is public property. The public property extends until it hits private property. An easement would allow someone other than the owner to access it. But no, none of my properties have personal sidewalks with a public easement. ETA- The parcel map is messed up, but the line for all of the other roadway lines would show the guy was on public property. Not an easement. If you look at the video where the fire hydrant is, it looks to be about 10' inside the property line of the business. ETA2- Official GIS city map showing the lines and the guy was on public property https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77939/Otis_Way_JPG-2526261.JPG County ordinances show a right-of-way on either side of the street. https://library.municode.com/sc/florence_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=COOR_CH28.6LADESUOR easement was the wrong word, but auditor was still within his rights to be there. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:38:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t say it's okay, BUT... If you go around asking for trouble, it'll find you. Frankly, this looks like a case of 2 dumbasses colliding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then it's okay? Didn’t say it's okay, BUT... If you go around asking for trouble, it'll find you. Frankly, this looks like a case of 2 dumbasses colliding. You implied it by calling the guy a douche bag. If Police are doing the right thing and respecting the constitutional rights of citizens then these encounters would be uneventful. Why are you against the constitution? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:38:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do cops like the one in the video exist because of "first amendment auditors"? Or do "first amendment auditors" exist because of cops like the one in the video? 
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:40:46 PM EDT
[#39]
When someone deletes or tries to delete video or audio it pretty much tells you who wants to change what really happened.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:41:34 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To save everybody some trouble, it's a video by one of those "audits" douchebags. It's okay if cops violate people's rights if you don't like how they are exercising them? Did I get that right? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:41:39 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't really matter. One of them came asking for trouble, one came looking for trouble. They both got what they wanted, and probably went home happy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do cops like the one in the video exist because of "first ammendment auditors"? Or do "first ammendment auditors" exist because of cops like the one in the video? Doesn't really matter. One of them came asking for trouble, one came looking for trouble. They both got what they wanted, and probably went home happy. So engaging in a constitutionally protected right is “Asking for trouble”? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:42:02 PM EDT
[#42]
It’s like a chicken and the egg.
Which came first, the first amendment auditor or the cop that abused his authority? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:45:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "First Amendment auditors" exist because Youtube has a very lucrative monetization policy for anyone who undermines traditional Western civilization such as law enforcement. Not arguing - but what's the policy and how do they differentiate between 'auditors' and every other monetized channel? I ask because I've never heard of it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:46:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You really shouldn't Legally, the cop is wrong here, and the POS "auditor" is likely right (even though none of them seem to know what "easement" really means). But, as I am not involved in the adjudication of this mess, I can follow my heart instead of my head, and just say that I wish the property owner had physically removed the idiot with the camera with no repercussion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Live their lives, or conduct public business in public? You really shouldn't Legally, the cop is wrong here, and the POS "auditor" is likely right (even though none of them seem to know what "easement" really means). But, as I am not involved in the adjudication of this mess, I can follow my heart instead of my head, and just say that I wish the property owner had physically removed the idiot with the camera with no repercussion. See how that ignorant line of thinking works when it’s applied to other constitutional rights? You ok with that too? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:51:40 PM EDT
[#45]
One bad apple. 5 other bad apples in training, stood around watching.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:53:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do cops like the one in the video exist because of "first ammendment auditors"? Or do "first ammendment auditors" exist because of cops like the one in the video?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:54:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s like a chicken and the egg. Which came first, the first amendment auditor or the cop that abused his authority? If police were consistently passing these audits - which a couple have even chimed into this thread stating how they had done so in a professional manner (thank you for that) then the auditors would get far fewer clicks. But this one in the OP failed the audit, and now plenty of clicks later, here we are… |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:56:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve encountered a couple. One just wanted to take a video of the parking lot and break area. He king of walked around whispering something to himself. The second guy came up asking legal questions and my opinion on the constitution. I suggested he contact an attorney trained to provide legal advice. He got pushy saying he was testing me as a public servant and demanded responses. I politely refused to participate in his test citing my freedom not to take unwanted exams. He got frustrated and went away. Learn how to make auditors go away with this one simple trick! Good to see not everyone takes the bait. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:05:56 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Source on the property? The narrator said he was on an easement. My easements have restrictions for their use. NONE of them are for the public to freely access. So, what is it in this case? So what difference does it make? The cop belongs in jail, regardless of what kind of property it is. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:20:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: See how that ignorant line of thinking works when it’s applied to other constitutional rights? You ok with that too? Okay reductio ad absurdum, how quick are you going to jump up and defend the NAMBLA Drag Story Hour out on the street in front of the elementary school playground? |
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