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Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:33:09 PM EDT
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You can have them. Pm me where to send them.
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1-17-91

Night before graduation as an M1 tanker from One Station Unit Training at Ft. Knox, KY.  Nervous times but my ultimate orders sent me to South Korea where we heard about all the big tank battles that happened later.

You guys got me the National Defense Ribbon for my Class A's (participation trophy)


Good story and glad you made it home.
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I listened to a podcast with Tyler Jay Satterfield( the EAS Song guy) and he brought up an interesting point. He said that as Marines all we ever looks for is a CAR. That he is more impressed by the NDR because you volunteered during active conflict. And the CAR really just means you were doing your job and defended yourself. It was part of a larger narrative and story but I found it interesting.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:42:16 PM EDT
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Great read!  Thanks for this!  Would love to hear more.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:43:35 PM EDT
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"...When I was a man, I put away childish things"

1 Corinthians 13:11-12

I was 2/3 of the way through basic training at Ft Jackson when we got word that the USA was going to war.  I had turned 18 just a couple of weeks before.  That news caused me to put away a lot of my childish things and my childish mindset.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:46:14 PM EDT
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Yep. My wife was sitting outside of the SAC General’s office when DS/DS was going on.  She was in the AF, and was the general’s secretary. She said once “ The Storm” kicked off, Offutt AFB was hopping.
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Great story OP, and a happy ending.

The relationship between the AWACS and Rivet Joint communities hasn't always been friendly. An AWACS officer threw what must have been a very serious punch (I saw the recipient a few days later) at an RJ guy in the Officer's Club at Mildenhall not long after the Blackhawk shoot-down. From what I was told it wasn't a career-ender for either man, and was written off to alcohol and stress.

For reasons way above my pay grade - which were never explained to us - Offutt took DS and went to Saudi, while we were sent to open Det 1, Souda Bay Greece. We were disappointed, if that's the right word for not going into a war, and the Marines guarding the aircraft were furious. Funny, I was just talking about that in another thread earlier today.

Funny looking RJ on the ramp at Souda, definitely not vanilla (it's an RC-135U, Combat Sent). Notice the tank is already sporting CFM56s, while the gazillion dollar recce is still rocking the "beast", the TF33.
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Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:48:05 PM EDT
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I normally go to the comments to see if the OP's book is worth reading so I'll have to subscribe to this for later.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:49:16 PM EDT
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"...When I was a man, I put away childish things"

1 Corinthians 13:11-12

I was 2/3 of the way through basic training at Ft Jackson when we got word that the USA was going to war.  I had turned 18 just a couple of weeks before.  That news caused me to put away a lot of my childish things and my childish mindset.
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Amen.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:56:20 PM EDT
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Cool story.

I was turning 18 in January that year. Mom and dad thought I was going to get drafted and it was going to be like a Vietnam quagmire. Dad even mentioned me heading up to Canada to stay with his cousins in Calgary.

Fuck that.

Shit was over with stupid quick.

Yeaes later I joined right before the 9-11 attacks. They were both pretty much in shock.

So... I didn't get to go to Iraq the first time. But I was there the second time.

I know.... Cool story Brah.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 6:59:54 PM EDT
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OP, I'm almost certain I remember reading there was a strike package of EF-111s flown from RAF Heyford in Operation El Dorado Canyon. Were you involved in that at all?
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:01:39 PM EDT
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About a year ago an old Vietnam veteran stopped by my house and told me that he was cleaning out his house and wanted to know if I wanted these.
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I had a binder full of these.


Can't recall if these came with the chalky hard bubble gum though.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:09:54 PM EDT
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Threads like this make GD awesome.

Thank you for sharing, and thank you all that served.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:21:27 PM EDT
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I was the driver of a chapparal. This picture was taken by Janes Defense and I have the magazine it was printed in.  That's me driving the POS.

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I was in the first armoured division and we were assigned to provide air defense for the MRLS guys.  Because we were air defense we stayed well off of the flanks of the convoy of vehicles.

Every M1 and Bradley we came across wanted to blow us to smithereens.  I was told by many a tanker that they requested permission to engage us but somebody out there was smart enough to properly identify us as friendly each time.  

Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:22:06 PM EDT
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19 year old Lance Corporal, 0861

Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:26:48 PM EDT
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I had a binder full of these.


Can't recall if these came with the chalky hard bubble gum though.
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They 100% came with that pink "bubble" "gum."

Probably some hefty dental bills from kids chipping their teeth on it.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:28:44 PM EDT
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JTF PROVEN FORCE at Incirlik AB.  The Army was under GO1, the USAF wasn't until the ground war started.

The USAF was also on per diem, even the plebs in tent city.  The day the ground war started the expeditionary wing was tied in knots over whether to declare field conditions or not... Which would have cut off their per diem.


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My dad went from Incirlik AB at the same time to link up with Kurdish rebels across the Turkish border. I think it was the same JTF.

He said when they encountered their Kurdish contacts, it started as a firefight, but they were able to cease fire and work it out.

Every time he went to Incirlik, he'd always talk about the golf course. I don't get it lol.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:28:50 PM EDT
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We were flying from Kadena to Clark when we heard on the HF's that Desert Storm had kicked off.

Sometime later enjoying a bourbon and Coke outside my tent at King Khalid Military City:

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Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:29:30 PM EDT
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OP, thanks for sharing!  The Vark has always been one of my most favorite aircraft, and I never agreed with retiring them when we did, especially the Spark. 6 months later it cost us.

Question - could you have oriented your aircraft in such a way as to jam the F-15 that was targeting you as a means of self defense?
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:43:48 PM EDT
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I was actually cleaning up at the shop...I looked at what I had been wearing today -1* to about 9*....so I took them off and used my night camo for the spread....the model I built drunkish in the barricks like all E-3 and below did...and some of the E4 mafia

Picture is Desert Shield, it was still green...and yes we had to paint W4 with the fuckning mechanics brushes

I found the NIB card set at a junk shop, owner heard me...and my excited 55 year old ass telling my wife this and that...and said just buy them...He said $5....Done deal...still in wrapper...all the clothing was my issue in Desert Storm...shit the camo I still wear is that old...


The Spurs and Hat (only officers wear the ugly Stetson) mine, it's a Baileys cattleman beaver. This is a Cav tradition, different ways to be presented with them, you can earn your spurs by a spur ride or you can earn them in combat  

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Enjoy, lets se more pics
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:46:54 PM EDT
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I was the driver of a chapparal. This picture was taken by Janes Defense and I have the magazine it was printed in.  That's me driving the POS.

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I was in the first armoured division and we were assigned to provide air defense for the MRLS guys.  Because we were air defense we stayed well off of the flanks of the convoy of vehicles.

Every M1 and Bradley we came across wanted to blow us to smithereens.  I was told by many a tanker that they requested permission to engage us but somebody out there was smart enough to properly identify us as friendly each time.  

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I don't know what that thing is, but it looks awesome!
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:49:45 PM EDT
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OP,

You should post more.

Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you came home safely.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:53:22 PM EDT
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OP, I'm almost certain I remember reading there was a strike package of EF-111s flown from RAF Heyford in Operation El Dorado Canyon. Were you involved in that at all?
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I was still a T-38 IP at Laughlin in 86.  I got to the EF the next year.  When I got to Upper Heyford the following year there was only on person left the the squadron who had flown on that mission, my squadron commander.  He had been the Ops Officer at the time and lead the 4 ship of EFs.  He had some interesting stories about orbiting just outside of SA2 range and watching them burn out and drop in the Mediterranean just under their orbits.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 7:55:08 PM EDT
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Great read!  Thanks for this!  Would love to hear more.
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I have a few other stories, I'll try to dig them up and post one later
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:01:04 PM EDT
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As a fuel truck driver during DS, I was glad you guys were keeping the sky's clear.  I can only imagine how exciting it would be to pop a fuel truck from up there.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:01:38 PM EDT
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Thanks for sharing
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:04:34 PM EDT
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glad you made it home!
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:07:01 PM EDT
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2nd Tanks

Thanks for making me feel old today.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:08:51 PM EDT
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My dad went from Incirlik AB at the same time to link up with Kurdish rebels across the Turkish border. I think it was the same JTF.

He said when they encountered their Kurdish contacts, it started as a firefight, but they were able to cease fire and work it out.

Every time he went to Incirlik, he'd always talk about the golf course. I don't get it lol.
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I've played many a round of golf at Incirlik
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:11:00 PM EDT
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We were flying from Kadena to Clark when we heard on the HF's that Desert Storm had kicked off.

Sometime later enjoying a bourbon and Coke outside my tent at King Khalid Military City:

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THANK ME! For building that for you.

Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:11:01 PM EDT
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Nice post OP.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:11:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:11:45 PM EDT
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OP, thanks for sharing!  The Vark has always been one of my most favorite aircraft, and I never agreed with retiring them when we did, especially the Spark. 6 months later it cost us.

Question - could you have oriented your aircraft in such a way as to jam the F-15 that was targeting you as a means of self defense?
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The Jamming system on the EF wasn't designed to defeat airborne radars for interceptor aircraft.  Our self protection jammers were optimized for Soviet AA radars.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:13:05 PM EDT
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Finally got a chance to take a minute and read all of that. Wild stuff. Thanks for sharing. I was today years old when I found out what AWACS.

Glad the commands shit all over those two crews, and that you didn't get shot down.

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I was actually cleaning up at the shop...I looked at what I had been wearing today -1* to about 9*....so I took them off and used my night camo for the spread....the model I built drunkish in the barricks like all E-3 and below did...and some of the E4 mafia

Picture is Desert Shield, it was still green...and yes we had to paint W4 with the fuckning mechanics brushes

I found the NIB card set at a junk shop, owner heard me...and my excited 55 year old ass telling my wife this and that...and said just buy them...He said $5....Done deal...still in wrapper...all the clothing was my issue in Desert Storm...shit the camo I still wear is that old...


The Spurs and Hat (only officers wear the ugly Stetson) mine, it's a Baileys cattleman beaver. This is a Cav tradition, different ways to be presented with them, you can earn your spurs by a spur ride or you can earn them in combat  

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Whats a spur ride?
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:14:25 PM EDT
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You probably flew over me at some point.

I'll read the whole thing later!
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:14:44 PM EDT
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Truth.

I have photo album from DS that I can't find.  Bummer I have a friend who died not long after the war and those were the only pictures I have of him.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:20:45 PM EDT
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One of my best friends in the National Guard was a Marine TOW gunner in Desert Storm.  He got out a year or so after, lived a good life but joined the Guard after 9-11.  He retired the same year I did with 23 years.  I like to tease him that I was in the 6th grade while he was in DS.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:22:41 PM EDT
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Incredible account OP.

And it occurred to me that 33 years before 1991 was 1958, to put things into perspective...
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:24:08 PM EDT
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OP, thank you for your service. The high security place I worked at put a padlocked chain across the entrance driveway to keep car bombs away from the building. The exit gate was left open. We were the laughing stock of the community. Our Chief of Security was a retired Air Force Aerospace Medical Service Specialist.  

Yep, we sucked.

Me, I was sweating bullets because I got the “put your things in order and prepare for a recall to active duty” letter from Headquarters Marine Corps.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:32:04 PM EDT
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I knew I was in trouble the second he called that out.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:33:37 PM EDT
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For your reading pleasure I'll leave this story and a few pictures from a mission I flew in DS.  It's written to given the lay person some ideas of what a mission is like and enough details for the military folks to appreciate.


Today is the 33rd Anniversary of the start of Desert Storm. Those of us in Turkey followed close behind the first wave coming out of the south.  On Veterans Day several years a high school friend asked me to tell her a story from my time in the service.  I wrote this out with the helpful comments of my mentors Colonel's Dave Skakal and Tom Faust.  This story will give you some insight on the planning and execution of a modern combat sortie.  This particular story is about a friendly fire incident I was involved in.  

These events occurred in mid to late February 1991 in Northern Iraq during Operation Desert Storm. I was leading a two-ship sortie of EF-111's in support of an 80-plane attack package attacking Republican Guard Units of the Iraq Army. My mission that night was to provide SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defense) against several SA-2 and mobile SA-6 surface to air missile (SAM) systems around the target area to protect USAF F-111 and B-52 aircraft as they attacked the Iraqi Army Units.

A typical night strike mission would start around 5pm. I would wake up from sleeping all day, collect my crewmate and flight members and we would head to "hard ops". It is hardened concrete bunker that was our base of operations. I would go to the mission planning cell and see what the target was for the nights mission. The Mission Planning Cell was a group of pilots and navigators whose job was to develop the overall attack plan. After that I would go down to maintenance and talk with them about the condition of our aircraft and find some dinner. Then the mission planning started. It would take about 4 hours in total. This encompassed viewing the overall mission and then planning how we would support it, our individual formation briefing and then an overall mission brief for the 80-plane attack. After the overall brief we had a few minutes to ourselves. One of my personal rituals was to sanitize my uniform. We took off all our patches and name tags, anything that could identify our unit or where we might have come from. We only had our USAF ID cards and a "Blood Chit" with us. A Blood Chit is a numbered piece of paper with an American Flag on it and a message written in several languages promising reward for helping the American pilot that has it. Each one was serialized, and the number associated to the issued pilot. I would then take all my personal items and give it to our intel officer. She would promise to hold it for me, and I promised I would return in a few hours for it. It was a game we played. She and I both knew the risks, but they went unspoken. After that I would go to life support to get dressed for flight. I would put on my G-suit and get my helmet. I would then put on a winter flight jacket and don my survival vest. The vest had various items that would be handy to have if I had to eject from the plane. It included two day/night flares, flashlight, Gyro Jet Flare Gun, signal mirror, whistle, strobe light with IR (infrared) filter, compass, PRC-90 Survival Radio, several packets of water and a M9 sidearm (Beretta 92FS 9mm handgun) and two spare magazines.  We would then step to our planes and get them ready for takeoff.  We launched that night from Incirlik AB Turkey around 0100 hours. It was about a 50-minute flight to the Turkish Iraqi border at an altitude of 23,000 feet and our normal cruise speed of 450 KTAS (Knots True Air Speed) (518 MPH). As we approached the border, we double checked a line on our maps that was marked FEBA (Forward Edge of the Battle Area). Past this point there are no friendly troops on the ground and little to no risk of attacking friendly ground forces. This is a critical reminder to us to preform our "Fence Check." We armed our chaff and flare systems, turned on our defensive ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) systems, turned off our exterior lights and otherwise made the plane ready to respond to any threat and do our mission. As we crossed "The Fence" I accelerated my plane to my planned combat speed of 540 Knots (621 MPH). This will give us the best performance and better maneuverability against any potential threat. At this point in tonight's mission, I turn the Master Radiate Switch to "ON" and commence our Offensive Operations against the Iraqi Early Warning Radars that are trying to locate the attacking forces I am trying to screen.  DENY, DECIVE and DEFEAT was our MOTTO. To perform my mission that night I was flying a flight orbit that looked like a stretched-out bow tie. It ran east and west across the width of Iraq. This is an important detail as the story unfolds (see the attached picture).

All the pieces were in place and the attack began. It was another typical combat mission much like many of the previous ones. About 30 minutes into the attack things changed radically. I was on the western leg of my orbit at 22,000 feet when the AWACS (Airborne Early Warning and Control) called out on the tactical radio frequency "High speed BOGEY" and then gave his bearing and range from "The Bullseye". The Bullseye is a point in space that we can use to reference position on an unsecure frequency so as not to give our current position away yet let everyone know where we are talking about. A BOGEY is an unknown aircraft. My EWO (Electronic Warfare Officer) sitting next to me said that position was near us. I start scanning outside in that direction and increased our speed from 540 to 600 Knots (690 MPH). The F-15s north of us start scanning their Air-to-Air Radars in that direction looking for the unknown aircraft. I was now at the end of my orbit leg and started a turn to the north. When I was pointed north one of the F-15s pointed south called out "radar contact 1000 knots closure". This meant the combined speed of the two aircraft was 1000 knots (1150 MPH). As I continued my turn to the east, the F-15 pilots called out that the Bogey was now maneuvered to "The Beam". This is interpreted as a defensive maneuver an Iraqi aircraft would do to try to avoid detection. For a better understanding of this Google "Pulse Doppler Radar Notch." By making our relative velocity as close to zero as possible we would have been well positioned to attain velocity gate pull off and not be seen by his radar.
At this point the AWACS called out the bogey as a "bandit", a confirmed "bad guy." The F-15 pilot locked his radar on the bandit. My RWR (Radar Warning Receiver), a very high-tech radar detector like the one you have in a car, started yelling at me that someone had a radar lock on me. Now everything is starting to make sense. In the heat of the battle the AWACS lost track of me and then called me out as the unknown aircraft. This is a mistake on their part and should be easy enough to sort out. I called out "Buddy Spike" you have Ghost Lead locked up. You are targeting a friendly. Ghost is my callsign for the night and Buddy Spike is the term we use when a friendly aircraft has targeted a friendly aircraft. No one would listen to me. They are blind to what was going on. I left this radio frequency and went to another one and spoke to a different controller on the AWACS. His job was to watch me specifically. I told him to "knock this shit off." He told me they are too busy to talk to me because of the bandit. I yelled at him that you have me targeted as the bandit. He would not listen to what I was saying. I went back to the tactical frequency again and told them they had the wrong aircraft targeted. No one would listen. We had a special altitude to go to if we believed we were in distress and in danger of being engaged by a friendly aircraft. We called it the "Sanctuary Altitude." I went to that altitude and called out what I was doing and to not shoot. There are extremely specific rules about how to do all of this. It is referred to as ROE (Rules of Engagement). Well, that night the F-15 pilot and everyone on the AWACS threw the rule book out the window and I was about to pay the price for it. You are not supposed to shoot anyone at that altitude unless you have a positive EID (Electronic Identification). There are lots of ways to do this that I cannot discuss but for the sake of this story they were all throwing the rule book out the window.

Things were not looking good for our EF-111 crew and we were about to get shot out of the sky by our own aircraft and there is nothing I could do to stop it. Well, I was not going down without a fight, so we started to configure the aircraft for an emergency descent to the ground. I was getting ready to push the nose of the plane in a 30 degrees dive, engage full afterburner and go as fast as the plane would fly trying to avoid the missile shot that I know is about to come.

Then divine intervention occurred. Fortunate for me a National Reconnaissance Asset happened to be in the area (Google "RC-135 Rivet Joint") and he made the following radio call on Guard (the emergency frequency we monitor). It truly was like the voice of God calling from on high. "THIS IS VACUUM ON GUARD. HEY AWACS ARE YOU GOING TO LET THAT F-15 SHOOT THAT EF-111? VACUUM OUT". The Rivet Joint callsign is Vacuum. As you can imagine all hell broke loose at that point. The AWACS called the F-15 off from the attack and I did not have to dive for the ground. I was happy about that because the Anti-Aircraft fire that night was intense and if the missile did not get me the bullets might have.

So, after I take a few moments to compose myself I got rather snippy on the radio. I matter of fact told the AWACS controllers and the mission commander that if they were not going to follow the ROE on how to tell the sheep from the goats then I was going the fuck home. My wingman that evening was my Squadron Commander and I asked if he was coming or staying. He said he agreed with me and we left the battlefield. At this point the entire mission had gone so sideways that it was cancelled, and we all went home.

When we got back to Incirlik the face to face debrief got a little ugly. The result was the AWACS controller crew, and the F-15 pilot lost their Mission Ready status and the F-15 pilot was sent home. I drank several beers and went to bed. Got up the next day and flew another combat mission the following night.

Combat is dangerous. The modern battlefield is lethal, and shit can go sideways fast especially when you follow the rules and others do not!

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That is wild
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:36:41 PM EDT
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When I enlisted,in 97 my engineer unit was full of DS vets.  There were a few Vietnam guys as well, just finishing up their 20 years in the NG.
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Thanks for taking the time to share that. Really, really interesting. Glad you came out of it unscathed!

Thank you for your service.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:55:08 PM EDT
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What a story.  Thank you for sharing.  This is the type of stuff that brings me back to arfcom.
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I listened to a podcast with Tyler Jay Satterfield( the EAS Song guy) and he brought up an interesting point. He said that as Marines all we ever looks for is a CAR. That he is more impressed by the NDR because you volunteered during active conflict. And the CAR really just means you were doing your job and defended yourself. It was part of a larger narrative and story but I found it interesting.
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Night before graduation as an M1 tanker from One Station Unit Training at Ft. Knox, KY.  Nervous times but my ultimate orders sent me to South Korea where we heard about all the big tank battles that happened later.

You guys got me the National Defense Ribbon for my Class A's (participation trophy)


Good story and glad you made it home.


I listened to a podcast with Tyler Jay Satterfield( the EAS Song guy) and he brought up an interesting point. He said that as Marines all we ever looks for is a CAR. That he is more impressed by the NDR because you volunteered during active conflict. And the CAR really just means you were doing your job and defended yourself. It was part of a larger narrative and story but I found it interesting.


Interesting perspective but I still never got a combat patch for my right shoulder.  National Defense Ribbon will have to do.  (No stolen valor here fellas)
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:57:06 PM EDT
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Time sure flies by. We had long since left Camp 15 and were living in hand dug holes on the border. It was a crazy night watching all the planes flying towards Baghdad and knowing that we too would soon be turned loose. I was 20, a M60 gunner and surrounded by some of my best friends. What a time.
Semper Fi
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Time sure flies by. We had long since left Camp 15 and were living in hand dug holes on the border. It was a crazy night watching all the planes flying towards Baghdad and knowing that we too would soon be turned loose. I was 20, a M60 gunner and surrounded by some of my best friends. What a time.
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Yes sir.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 8:59:00 PM EDT
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Was on the ground there. Passed through Camp 15

Thanks for your story!

Semper Fi!
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I'm glad everyone enjoyed the story.  I loved reading all of your stories and seeing your pictures.  This is a great place.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 9:02:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/17/2024 9:12:00 PM EDT
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THANK ME! For building that for you.

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Thank you!

I only stayed in it once or twice.

The rest of the time I was usually in a hotel somewhere in Europe or England.
Link Posted: 1/17/2024 9:18:17 PM EDT
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I was at WOMAK , casualties consisted of troops that got run over in the rush .

* this was after we converted barracks to hospital beds to fill . News reporting the tens of thousands of body bags we'd need .
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