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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:03:52 PM EDT
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socialist boomers or conservative boomers? pagan boomers or Christian boomers maybe some other flavor of boomers? figure they are all in on it together eh? I recently asked another Gen X’er, a priest, how we can distinguish the good Boomers vs the bad ones. His response was, “Kill them all, for the Lord knows those that are His own.” I feel at peace now with what has to be done. 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:03:59 PM EDT
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Generation X or Gen X is the demographic cohort following the baby boomers and preceding the Millennials. Demographers and researchers typically use birth years ranging from the early-to-mid 1960s to the early 1980s. Wikipedia Period: 1961 1981 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We first need to agree on what constitutes a "Boomer". Baby Boom Generation: anyone born from 1946 to 1964. Baby Bust aka Generation X: anyone born from Millennials: Anyone born from 1983 to 2000. Keep in mind that most Boomers weren't able to vote until the 1970s, because the voting age was 21 back then. Period: 1961 1981 Most would agree that a single generation spans 18 years and ends as soon as its first members hit adulthood, and since the Post War Baby Boom generation didn't start until AFTER WWII in 1946 that would mean it ended about 1964. And since even your article admits Gen X could be counted starting in the mid-60s, I stand by my numbers. 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:04:15 PM EDT
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"Social Security has problems, but running out of cash isn't one of them The big question a lot of folks (especially millennials) are probably asking about Social Security, given its many problems, is this: When, exactly, will the program run out of cash? Believe it or not, the honest answer, assuming no changes to the way Social Security is funded, is never." https://www.fool.com/retirement/2018/11/09/heres-when-social-security-will-run-out-of-cash.aspx |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:05:00 PM EDT
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Of course.
They inherited the world's greatest creditor nation with the best infrastructure in history, decided that paying for it (or fiscal responsibility of any kind) were for suckers, and they borrowed and spent every dime on history's greatest orgy of greed and excess. They spent all their own money, and their kid's money, and grandkid's money, and great grandkid's money all on themselves. Because fuck it, let the grand kids foot the bill, am I right? And were that not enough, they were too fucking lazy to even take care of the things they were gifted. Infrastructure? Education? Liberty? Fuck all that, it's time for another euro vacation and a new granite counter top. Hell, these assholes were anti-WAR until the minute they were too old to serve themselves. It was "give peace a chance" baby when they were twenty and thirty, but the minute they hit forty it was non-stop war forever. Peace? Fuck that noise, bomb them all! Everyone needed to be bombed to prove how bad ass the old bastards were. There is nothing, literally nothing, that America's worst generation didn't fucking destroy. History will remember them, and future generations will piss on their greedy fucking graves. /rant |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:05:24 PM EDT
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Only within the past 40 or so years we have seen the greatest wealth transfer in history.
First to Japan and Korea and the Pacific rim, then since the 1990s to China. Asia has gotten incredibly wealthy at our expense. Trump is fighting this almost single handedly. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:05:58 PM EDT
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There is a group that came after us boomers. All Y'all are called whiny little crybabies, free shit army, and snowflakes! |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:07:21 PM EDT
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I'm neither Boomer or Millennial, and I think the notion is ridiculous. If you can't get what you want out of this country it's your fault, no one else's. Only in GD can someone expect personal responsibility from others but blame all their failings/hardships on someone else. Well, maybe DU, as well. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:08:25 PM EDT
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LBJ, and the rest of Congress that voted in the Great Society, Not Boomers, FDR, and Congress that voted in Social Security, Not Boomers. President Nixon and the Congress that took us off the Gold Standard and let the dollar free float......not Boomers. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:08:45 PM EDT
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Looks like the US has survived those dirty, stinkin' Boomers
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:10:01 PM EDT
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what gets me is that the OP didn't mention the free shit crowd, the generations of free shit layabouts that have been willingly soaking the country for Food, Housing, Utilities, 'Bama Phones, 'Bama's Stash, Free Internet, Free Gov'ment Cheese, Free School Lunches for their kids and all the rest. No, just shove the blame off on the Boomers, well I'm a Boomer, I'm 65 and I've been working continually since I was 15. I plan to keep working for decades to come.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:10:22 PM EDT
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Looks like the US has survived those dirty, stinkin' Boomers https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/60489/gdpia_JPG-923902.JPG US GDP (inflation adjusted) This is why they hate you. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:10:23 PM EDT
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FDR did.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:11:07 PM EDT
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Of course. They inherited the world's greatest creditor nation with the best infrastructure in history, decided that paying for it (or fiscal responsibility of any kind) were for suckers, and they borrowed and spent every dime on history's greatest orgy of greed and excess. They spent all their own money, and their kid's money, and grandkid's money, and great grandkid's money all on themselves. Because fuck it, let the grand kids foot the bill, am I right? And were that not enough, they were too fucking lazy to even take care of the things they were gifted. Infrastructure? Education? Liberty? Fuck all that, it's time for another euro vacation and a new granite counter top. Hell, these assholes were anti-WAR until the minute they were too old to serve themselves. It was "give peace a chance" baby when they were twenty and thirty, but the minute they hit forty it was non-stop war forever. Peace? Fuck that noise, bomb them all! Everyone needed to be bombed to prove how bad ass the old bastards were. There is nothing, literally nothing, that America's worst generation didn't fucking destroy. History will remember them, and future generations will piss on their greedy fucking graves. /rant |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:14:04 PM EDT
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Of course. They inherited the world's greatest creditor nation with the best infrastructure in history, decided that paying for it (or fiscal responsibility of any kind) were for suckers, and they borrowed and spent every dime on history's greatest orgy of greed and excess. They spent all their own money, and their kid's money, and grandkid's money, and great grandkid's money all on themselves. Because fuck it, let the grand kids foot the bill, am I right? And were that not enough, they were too fucking lazy to even take care of the things they were gifted. Infrastructure? Education? Liberty? Fuck all that, it's time for another euro vacation and a new granite counter top. Hell, these assholes were anti-WAR until the minute they were too old to serve themselves. It was "give peace a chance" baby when they were twenty and thirty, but the minute they hit forty it was non-stop war forever. Peace? Fuck that noise, bomb them all! Everyone needed to be bombed to prove how bad ass the old bastards were. There is nothing, literally nothing, that America's worst generation didn't fucking destroy. History will remember them, and future generations will piss on their greedy fucking graves. /rant |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:14:27 PM EDT
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Eh; kinda. They didn't necessarily squander the current wealth they had in-hand, so much as build and commit to liabilities, that make it heavily burdensome on the next generation. Social Security is the big one, since they retire with something like 40 years left to live, yet get full SS and more expensive medical and pharma now. Here's what the SS% of GDP has been doing. It crept from 4.5% of the GDP in the 1980s to as high as 6% of GDP, which actually is a lot. But not as dire as people act: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v75n1/v75n1p1-chart01.gif Which doesn't look so bad, until you stop and look how the next (and current) generation's wealth generation activity is fairly substantially being diminished and diverted to pay for that, which you can see in this graph. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Payroll_tax_history.jpg/800px-Payroll_tax_history.jpg My own opinion is because we have a smaller and smaller portion of the population actually working and making wealth, so they have to pay for everyone else. And you can see how SS Disability grew, though not all of that is Baby boomer retiree's; as a substantial growth in the liability has occurred due to younger generations also all claiming disability coverage: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/chartbooks/disability_trends/chart01.gif Though the oligarchy is taking their substantial cut now too, so that they can continue that trend of fairly substantial polarization of wealth that's occurred and was (likely still is) accelerating. https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/idsoFdCI5b2s/v1/-1x-1.png It's not all bad, in many ways the average American is still wealthier than his historic counter-part. But that wealth is considerably less than it otherwise could be, when you consider the rate of wealth generation he is producing per unit hour today, compared to his predecessor.  . Very nicely done.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:16:41 PM EDT
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what gets me is that the OP didn't mention the free shit crowd, the generations of free shit layabouts that have been willingly soaking the country for Food, Housing, Utilities, 'Bama Phones, 'Bama's Stash, Free Internet, Free Gov'ment Cheese, Free School Lunches for their kids and all the rest. No, just shove the blame off on the Boomers, well I'm a Boomer, I'm 65 and I've been working continually since I was 15. I plan to keep working for decades to come. 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:18:30 PM EDT
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No, politicians raped the treasury. If we all payed into social security, where is it?
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:20:24 PM EDT
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First generation born with a silver spoon in its mouth.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:21:38 PM EDT
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Don’t worry. For the Boomers who are still able-bodied, you will be selected for the labor camps. You can work there until the day you die! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what gets me is that the OP didn't mention the free shit crowd, the generations of free shit layabouts that have been willingly soaking the country for Food, Housing, Utilities, 'Bama Phones, 'Bama's Stash, Free Internet, Free Gov'ment Cheese, Free School Lunches for their kids and all the rest. No, just shove the blame off on the Boomers, well I'm a Boomer, I'm 65 and I've been working continually since I was 15. I plan to keep working for decades to come. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:26:25 PM EDT
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Yep. As a late stage boomer I can attest that you younger guys are the cleanup crew for a party you weren't invited to attend.
How about we knock it off with the blame the boomers threads already? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:26:41 PM EDT
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Yes and they changed the values of the Country as well, they also fairly screwed up their kids, who screwed up their kids.
But, it started with “The Greatest Generation.” Not sure what made them so great, still trying to have that one answered. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:26:59 PM EDT
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First generation born with a silver spoon in its mouth. You knew they were gonna try to hog everything for themselves. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:27:05 PM EDT
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What constitutes a generation produces as much argument as .45 vs 9mm. Most would agree that a single generation spans 18 years and ends as soon as its first members hit adulthood, and since the Post War Baby Boom generation didn't start until AFTER WWII in 1946 that would mean it ended about 1964. And since even your article admits Gen X could be counted starting in the mid-60s, I stand by my numbers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We first need to agree on what constitutes a "Boomer". Baby Boom Generation: anyone born from 1946 to 1964. Baby Bust aka Generation X: anyone born from Millennials: Anyone born from 1983 to 2000. Keep in mind that most Boomers weren't able to vote until the 1970s, because the voting age was 21 back then. Period: 1961 1981 Most would agree that a single generation spans 18 years and ends as soon as its first members hit adulthood, and since the Post War Baby Boom generation didn't start until AFTER WWII in 1946 that would mean it ended about 1964. And since even your article admits Gen X could be counted starting in the mid-60s, I stand by my numbers. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:27:16 PM EDT
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Ageism thread.
Let me tell you, when you have a lot fewer years in front of you than behind you don't really care about the "Who Shot John" games. 
Old Morgan sums it up nicely.
 Stop wasting my time... |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:28:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was born in '63, and do not claim the boomer label. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was born in '63, and do not claim the boomer label. 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:35:37 PM EDT
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short answer: yes... Their parents, the Greatest Generation, fought WWII. They left for France and the Pacific at 17 and 18, fought overseas for years, came home, used the GI Bill to get an education or a trade, then worked their asses off to pay off the tiny house they built. The lived depression-era living, saving a little of each paycheck and accumulating a small nest egg. Their children, the Boomers, lived in an age of plenty. They grew up, often with new schools. They went to college in a time when tuition was cheap and you actually could pay your way with a part time and/or summer job. The started work in an era when the corporate pension existed: Work 20, 25 years, retire at 55 with 60% pension. Had inexpensive health insurance. They voted themselves great government handouts and ran up a zillion in national debt. They started the "But I Want it Now" lifestyle. They spend 110% of what they earned, have nothing set aside for retirement, and are relying on someone else to care for them. They had it all: Cheap college, cheap housing, great benefits. They stand to benefit from the greatest transfer of wealth in history, as their parent die and leave them the nest egg. The children of Boomers?: Lets see. they are inheriting an essential broke country. Education is now unaffordable. Those that go to college will have massive debt. When they start work, their real wages - accounting for inflation- are considerably lower than the Boomers. They will not have a pension, instead get a 401K. Those few that do have pensions are in "tier 5" or some altered plan that requires higher contributions, longer work span, for far less benefits. When they marry and have kids, family insurance plans are far more expensive. Oh, and since the Boomers still demand more than their fair share of the pie, this generation will pay higher taxes, which are funneled directly to the Boomers. Boomers lived in a gravy age, consuming the wealth of their parents, and they are now - as a generation - going to impoverish their children and grandchildren.... |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:39:30 PM EDT
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Thanks for the cash
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:39:42 PM EDT
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Yep. As a late stage boomer I can attest that you younger guys are the cleanup crew for a party you weren't invited to attend.
How about we knock it off with the blame the boomers threads already? |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:40:16 PM EDT
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Yeah they fucked us. That's why I enjoy seeing them working past retirement age for insurance. I hope everything hurts all the time, and you'll be getting the cheap funeral. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:41:31 PM EDT
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I was born in '62, and I've always been considered a Boomer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:42:34 PM EDT
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The humorous part is you're being stereotyped by a cohort that falls on the floor screaming at the first whiff of demographic stereotyping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:52:51 PM EDT
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You're off a half a generation or so. I'm in the middle of the Baby Boomers, neither my wife nor I inherited a dime, we had to pay for our parents assisted living. I had to pay off my own college loans and then paid for my kids college so they won't have any. Get $1,000 a month from my 1st employer, where I worked 17 years, when I turn 65. I get no pention from the next 3 employers. College in Florida is free for the 1st two years with dual enrollment and anyone with a 3.5 gpa can get a 4 year degree gratis. So much for unaffordable. If you are dumb enough to rack up tens of thousands in loans at some small private college for a liberal arts degree and your parents let you and didn't pay, ? Your family is to blame. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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short answer: yes... Their parents, the Greatest Generation, fought WWII. They left for France and the Pacific at 17 and 18, fought overseas for years, came home, used the GI Bill to get an education or a trade, then worked their asses off to pay off the tiny house they built. The lived depression-era living, saving a little of each paycheck and accumulating a small nest egg. Their children, the Boomers, lived in an age of plenty. They grew up, often with new schools. They went to college in a time when tuition was cheap and you actually could pay your way with a part time and/or summer job. The started work in an era when the corporate pension existed: Work 20, 25 years, retire at 55 with 60% pension. Had inexpensive health insurance. They voted themselves great government handouts and ran up a zillion in national debt. They started the "But I Want it Now" lifestyle. They spend 110% of what they earned, have nothing set aside for retirement, and are relying on someone else to care for them. They had it all: Cheap college, cheap housing, great benefits. They stand to benefit from the greatest transfer of wealth in history, as their parent die and leave them the nest egg. The children of Boomers?: Lets see. they are inheriting an essential broke country. Education is now unaffordable. Those that go to college will have massive debt. When they start work, their real wages - accounting for inflation- are considerably lower than the Boomers. They will not have a pension, instead get a 401K. Those few that do have pensions are in "tier 5" or some altered plan that requires higher contributions, longer work span, for far less benefits. When they marry and have kids, family insurance plans are far more expensive. Oh, and since the Boomers still demand more than their fair share of the pie, this generation will pay higher taxes, which are funneled directly to the Boomers. Boomers lived in a gravy age, consuming the wealth of their parents, and they are now - as a generation - going to impoverish their children and grandchildren.... Millennials love to make assumptions... |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:26:56 AM EDT
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This baby boomer was raised poor and worked and paid into the system for over fifty years without ever drawing a unemployment check. The only thing the government ever gave me was a tour of Vietnam. All this socialism really blossomed under LBJs great society and like rust it has never stopped. If there is anything free to you someone else has to pay for it. Socialism is a mouse never asking why there is free cheese in the mouse trap. There is a great storm of socialism coming, prepare for it the best you can and never stop fighting against it.
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:33:15 AM EDT
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Do any of you know how much wealth has been stolen through the machinations of the not federal" Federal Reserve" over the last 106 years of their wealth stealing empire?
Y'all are squabbling over the scraps just like they want you to. Makes the job of fucking you out of your future easier for them.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:36:34 AM EDT
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Kind of. Their parents did a lot of pillaging with social programs under FDR and LBJ. Boomers have the cold war, more social programs, college for everyone...
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:42:22 AM EDT
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There is an 80's song by Mike and The Mechanics titled "The Living Years" that lyrically opens with "Every generation, blames the one before". Deal with yours, and shut the fuck up. LIFE. LIFE, is what you make it. End of story. I'm SOOO sorry that you POS degree in social sciences doesn't allow you to prosper. Not my fault that you can't even drive a manual shift car, let alone change its flat tire. IMO, you are hindered in life by your own laziness, or will to strive for greatness.
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Posted: 4/25/2019 12:48:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conflating GDP with remuneration for the bottom 90% for cheap shots about good feels? This is why they hate you. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 1:02:44 AM EDT
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We're going to hyperinflate our way out of debt. If you understand our modern monetary system and fractional reserve banking, that's always been the plan.
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Posted: 4/25/2019 1:14:40 AM EDT
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No. They got screwed over in a few different ways. It sure would have helped if they had voted differently - I wish they had elected Ross Perot.
I don't know if Generation Zyklon is going to put up with their antics though. I have to figure out a way to save my parents from the day of the pillow so my children can have grandparents. Just be quiet, take the grandkids fishing, and cash your old age pensions while we save the bees. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 1:20:10 AM EDT
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fact is we are squandering it now more than ever, who needs a car that goes 230mph when they are stuck behind an econobox or a 3/4 ton4wd that never leaves the pavement?
no the squandering is now ! |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 1:27:09 AM EDT
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Over promising on Medicare/SS while not paying enough into the system to cover future costs. Doing the same on pensions and retiree health benefits that has resulted in untold fortunes of unfunded liabilities both in the private and public sector. Both cases above are likely to see huge bailouts at taxpayer expense, despite the fact that SS/Medicare already make up roughly HALF the budget. They are not entirely to blame but god damn did they throw fuel on the fire.
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Posted: 4/25/2019 1:52:55 AM EDT
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No..couple gens later had to have free stuff
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Posted: 4/25/2019 5:47:45 AM EDT
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All I know is my parent's pension is six figures until the day they die. That is a deal that nobody from my generation will ever receive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All I know is my parent's pension is six figures until the day they die. That is a deal that nobody from my generation will ever receive. Lets say this fantasy were true, have you fucked up so bad as their child that they will spend it all and you'll get no inheritance? |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 6:24:37 AM EDT
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Smells like rancid pablum in here.
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Posted: 4/25/2019 6:29:02 AM EDT
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No, I have a successful career and load up my 401k and IRA like everyone else. My parents won't ever need to touch their savings. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All I know is my parent's pension is six figures until the day they die. That is a deal that nobody from my generation will ever receive. , , , , , , , , Lets say this fantasy were true, have you fucked up so bad as their child that they will spend it all and you'll get no inheritance? Or just not enough? Thats not a good look. Greed is an ugly look for you. If your parents won't have to touch their savings, where is it going to go? To you? And in their excess of wealth being passed on to you, Aren't you also benefiting by these programs you will never be a direct part of. Yeah, greed green is not a good look. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 6:30:55 AM EDT
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Smells like rancid pablum in here. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 6:31:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Generation X or Gen X is the demographic cohort following the baby boomers and preceding the Millennials. Demographers and researchers typically use birth years ranging from the early-to-mid 1960s to the early 1980s. Wikipedia Period: 1961 1981 |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 6:32:25 AM EDT
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There is an 80's song by Mike and The Mechanics titled "The Living Years" that lyrically opens with "Every generation, blames the one before". Deal with yours, and shut the fuck up. LIFE. LIFE, is what you make it. End of story. I'm SOOO sorry that you POS degree in social sciences doesn't allow you to prosper. Not my fault that you can't even drive a manual shift car, let alone change its flat tire. IMO, you are hindered in life by your own laziness, or will to strive for greatness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
There is an 80's song by Mike and The Mechanics titled "The Living Years" that lyrically opens with "Every generation, blames the one before". Deal with yours, and shut the fuck up. LIFE. LIFE, is what you make it. End of story. I'm SOOO sorry that you POS degree in social sciences doesn't allow you to prosper. Not my fault that you can't even drive a manual shift car, let alone change its flat tire. IMO, you are hindered in life by your own laziness, or will to strive for greatness. Quoted:
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Posted: 4/25/2019 6:33:08 AM EDT
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Screw that. I a man tired of them NOT RETIRING, staying way too long in upper positions, the bitching that no one wants to work' or has work ethic. Maybe because it's a dead end job while we all have to wait for them to die off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah they fucked us. That's why I enjoy seeing them working past retirement age for insurance. I hope everything hurts all the time, and you'll be getting the cheap funeral. Or, maybe, just maybe, you are not as valuable to the company as you think you are and they are more valuable to the company then you may believe. You are a number that makes money for the company you work for. So are they. |
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