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Posted: 5/16/2021 5:46:23 PM EDT
[#1]
BMP concept
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Posted: 5/16/2021 5:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t recall this item back in the Cold War era https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5000CB05-78E7-43CF-B675-EA0638E700D7_jpe-1944771.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5AA8FE2A-071B-4724-B95F-CBB5DA565C9F_jpe-1944772.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/882D802D-89D0-4818-AF75-6513FF0CB438_jpe-1944773.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/41F76426-3E41-4195-B9EB-F0E68725D601_jpe-1944777.JPG @CarmelBytheSea Not mass issued but troops rolled their own and Thompsons had them well before WW2 My Dad circa 1970 somewhere in Vietnam 
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Posted: 5/16/2021 5:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russiana invented plenty of stuff, AC transformers He’s talkin’ commie Russians... |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 5:47:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I was going to say communism  |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 5:47:27 PM EDT
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Any innovate has been copied by the rest since, or likely before, banging the rocks together.
The Slavs have had some cool ideas that we stole. It doesn't need to be a direct physical copy. Most of the time it's just someone taking the concept and running with it. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 5:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sikorsky-designed helicopters. Igor Sikorsky was most certainly not a Bolshevik. Just FWIW,his son is an absolute bloody legend. His memory at his age is incredible,these videos are fantastic;worth it just for the part about Howard Hughes and Ginger Rogers ??  Sergei Sikorsky Visits Kermit - Howard Hughes Sikorsky S-43  Sergei Sikorsky Visits Kermit - Messerschmitt Bf-108 & Seversky P-35 |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:00:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @CarmelBytheSea Not mass issued but troops rolled their own and Thompsons had them well before WW2 My Dad circa 1970 somewhere in Vietnam https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/921/Y7JJEC.jpg The Vietnam era is a surprise for me. Thompson I plain forgot |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sikorsky-designed helicopters. Igor Sikorsky emigrated from Russia in 1918. He's never been a Soviet citizen. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:02:16 PM EDT
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Armor related ones I can think of offhand. They may not have been the pioneers but certainly ones that put them into general use.
1. Reactive armor such as Kontact 1 and 5. We adapted eventually with Blazer, TUSK 1/2. 2. Passive defense systems such as bar armor, laser sensors, and applique. We adapted eventually with TUSK 1/2 and for the sensor thing with the Boomerang (not a laser sensor though). 3. Active protection systems such as Drodz and Arena. We are finally getting this online with the Trophy system. 4. Passive defense systems such as bar armor and Shtora. We have used the bar armor concept since Mid AFG time frame for bar armor and possibly the Desert Storm era for the Shtora via the USMC MCD. Not a huge success evidently. 5. Auto loaders. We later eventually used them on MGS. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Belvedere has a couple boutique brands out now, one is called Smogory Forest and the other is Lake Bartezek. I suppose if you're a super duper vodka snob you can tell the difference but I couldn't. Both excellent. The grocery store Belvedere is good enough by itself, IMO. Those are beyond that. Duly noted |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:04:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a Romanian gun, not Soviet. Soviet bloc = close enough |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:06:10 PM EDT
[#12]
 Sikorsky Parts |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:11:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Depends on how you define it. You have general categories of equipment like reactive armor and active protection systems that were first developed by the Soviets (with the latter being deployed to Afghanistan in the early 80s) and then specifics like the Navy briefly using the KH-31 as a target drone.
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laughs in M1928 Tommy Gun.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t recall this item back in the Cold War era https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5000CB05-78E7-43CF-B675-EA0638E700D7_jpe-1944771.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5AA8FE2A-071B-4724-B95F-CBB5DA565C9F_jpe-1944772.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/882D802D-89D0-4818-AF75-6513FF0CB438_jpe-1944773.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/41F76426-3E41-4195-B9EB-F0E68725D601_jpe-1944777.JPG Laughs in M1928 Tommy Gun. Chauchat |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:20:42 PM EDT
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Centralized tire inflation system. If you compare US and Soviet rolling stock from the 1970-80 era, their trucks were also far more capable off road, using super single tires for low ground pressure. This was necessary, since east bloc roads were so crappy, and the terrain they traversed was mostly open country.
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:23:17 PM EDT
[#16]
They had a good idea with that chest mag pouch thing. We still had mags on the belt when I was in.
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Posted: 5/16/2021 6:25:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Theres definitely a few Soviet designs we should copy but haven't. -Hand grenades with fuse initiated impact function: after 1-1.5s burn, the grenade becomes impact initiated. So safe to drop, but on a long throw it goes off on impact so the enemy cant throw it back / allows it to be used against enemies on hills without grenade rolling off target. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGN_hand_grenade Just don’t go fishing with one |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't they invent the helmet-mounted missile targeting system for fighters? There is a few things in rocketry they were the first to do as well You had to think in Russian. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the concepts of radar stealth were developed by a Russian scientist We totally used the Soviet research into stealth. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:13:46 PM EDT
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Americans looked at the STG-44 and said LOL No Way!
Then the Soviets shat forth a mountain of Kalashnikovs and after the US encountered them, thought golly, maybe a box magazine fed Garand isn’t the hotness we thought it was… |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:18:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I was going to say communism |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Americans looked at the STG-44 and said LOL No Way! Then the Soviets shat forth a mountain of Kalashnikovs and after the US encountered them, thought golly, maybe a box magazine fed Garand isn’t the hotness we thought it was… Very forward thinking IMO and would have saved us 20+ years of nonsense to come to same conclusion. M2 carbine would have been a good jumping off point though. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The optical IRST system used in Mig-29's and Sukhois is just now being adopted by the west. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/German_MIG-29_Nose.jpg The west is also moving towards an area denial strategy the soviet used for land based air defense. We can no long guarantee numerical or tactical air superiority in theaters like the SCS. *Laughs in F-101, F-102, F-106, F4, F8, and F-14D*  Attached FileEdit: I was obviously late to the mule beating. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:25:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Tetris
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I was going to say communism Sadly, my first thought as well |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BMP concept The 60s/70s/80s dismissive attitude of the concept while at the same time tripping all over ourselves to come up with one is laughable. We caught on eventually though. 15+ years after until it came to fruition. SDM concept is another one that springs to mind. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:42:00 PM EDT
[#27]
Ejection seats on fighter jets perhaps?
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:43:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SDM concept is another one that springs to mind. SVD was doing work, while the US was dicking around trying to find a decent M14 scope mount. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:43:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Igor Sikorsky was most certainly not a Bolshevik. Just FWIW,his son is an absolute bloody legend. His memory at his age is incredible,these videos are fantastic;worth it just for the part about Howard Hughes and Ginger Rogers ??  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ae_-nfmINo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sZjvUpa1gwQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sikorsky-designed helicopters. Igor Sikorsky was most certainly not a Bolshevik. Just FWIW,his son is an absolute bloody legend. His memory at his age is incredible,these videos are fantastic;worth it just for the part about Howard Hughes and Ginger Rogers ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ae_-nfmINo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sZjvUpa1gwSikorsky's son Sergei was my translator at the World Helicopter Championships (can't remember if it was the Castle Ashby event in the UK or Paris--I was at both) when I interviewed members of the Soviet Union's team. It was pretty awesome. 
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:49:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ejection seats on fighter jets perhaps? |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 7:49:26 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The optical IRST system used in Mig-29's and Sukhois is just now being adopted by the west. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/German_MIG-29_Nose.jpg The west is also moving towards an area denial strategy the soviet used for land based air defense. We can no long guarantee numerical or tactical air superiority in theaters like the SCS. F-106 IRST laughs at you. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 8:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Russians didn't even invent vodka; the Polish did. Neutral grain alcohol has been around a lot longer than Russia and Poland. I don't think anybody can claim it with any degree of certainty. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 8:16:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A few countries have bought a US made RPG-7 copy, AirTronic PSRL-1 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/PSRL_Feature-e1543255553574_jpg-1944775.JPG You can tell it's American because it has 15 rails on it. 
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Posted: 5/16/2021 8:33:31 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Armor related ones I can think of offhand. They may not have been the pioneers but certainly ones that put them into general use. 1. Reactive armor such as Kontact 1 and 5. We adapted eventually with Blazer, TUSK 1/2. 2. Passive defense systems such as bar armor, laser sensors, and applique. We adapted eventually with TUSK 1/2 and for the sensor thing with the Boomerang (not a laser sensor though). 3. Active protection systems such as Drodz and Arena. We are finally getting this online with the Trophy system. 4. Passive defense systems such as bar armor and Shtora. We have used the bar armor concept since Mid AFG time frame for bar armor and possibly the Desert Storm era for the Shtora via the USMC MCD. Not a huge success evidently. 5. Auto loaders. We later eventually used them on MGS. I am curious how operating APSs like Trophy get balanced with maintaining a reduced EM signature. With all the EW shit the Russians are using, an APS seems like it would be as much of a hinderance as it would be helpful. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 8:34:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Armor related ones I can think of offhand. They may not have been the pioneers but certainly ones that put them into general use. 1. Reactive armor such as Kontact 1 and 5. We adapted eventually with Blazer, TUSK 1/2. 2. Passive defense systems such as bar armor, laser sensors, and applique. We adapted eventually with TUSK 1/2 and for the sensor thing with the Boomerang (not a laser sensor though). 3. Active protection systems such as Drodz and Arena. We are finally getting this online with the Trophy system. 4. Passive defense systems such as bar armor and Shtora. We have used the bar armor concept since Mid AFG time frame for bar armor and possibly the Desert Storm era for the Shtora via the USMC MCD. Not a huge success evidently. 5. Auto loaders. We later eventually used them on MGS.  Attached FileThe Germans tried some mesh armor as well, as an alternative to their widely used plate skirts  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 8:47:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our century fighters had IRST systems on them.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The optical IRST system used in Mig-29's and Sukhois is just now being adopted by the west. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/German_MIG-29_Nose.jpg The west is also moving towards an area denial strategy the soviet used for land based air defense. We can no long guarantee numerical or tactical air superiority in theaters like the SCS. Our century fighters had IRST systems on them. The first use of an IRST system appears to be the F-101 Voodoo, F-102 Delta Dagger and F-106 Delta Dart interceptors. The F-106 had an early IRST mounting replaced in 1963 with a production retractable mount.[2] The IRST was also incorporated into the Vought F-8 Crusader (F-8E variant) which allowed passive tracking of heat emissions and was similar to the later Texas Instruments AAA-4 installed on early F-4 Phantoms. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 8:52:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No,the South Africans invented it and the Soviets saw how much of an advantage it gave their Mirages over Angola and made a crash program to develop their own. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't they invent the helmet-mounted missile targeting system for fighters? No,the South Africans invented it and the Soviets saw how much of an advantage it gave their Mirages over Angola and made a crash program to develop their own. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 9:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chauchat Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't recall this item back in the Cold War era https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5000CB05-78E7-43CF-B675-EA0638E700D7_jpe-1944771.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5AA8FE2A-071B-4724-B95F-CBB5DA565C9F_jpe-1944772.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/882D802D-89D0-4818-AF75-6513FF0CB438_jpe-1944773.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/41F76426-3E41-4195-B9EB-F0E68725D601_jpe-1944777.JPG Laughs in M1928 Tommy Gun. Chauchat  |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 9:38:51 PM EDT
[#39]
Igor Sikorsky
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Posted: 5/16/2021 9:43:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sikorsky-designed helicopters. He was here when he did. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 9:45:55 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 9:50:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Slat armor dates back to WWII, when the Soviets used bedsprings and fence sections and whatever else was handy to disrupt panzerfausts. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/T-34-85_235_berlin_jpg-1945144.JPG The Germans tried some mesh armor as well, as an alternative to their widely used plate skirts https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/mesh_jpeg-1945155.JPG You are thinking that these two concepts are the same? Soviet concept was to disrupt HEAT penetrating jet while German Concept was to break up 14.5mm penetration. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:10:07 PM EDT
[#43]
State Secret Police.
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:13:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:49:57 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some radar and space program stuff Haha nooooo. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:54:58 PM EDT
[#46]
Grid fins for supersonic weapons.
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:57:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A VFG? M60E3? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't recall this item back in the Cold War era https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5000CB05-78E7-43CF-B675-EA0638E700D7_jpe-1944771.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5AA8FE2A-071B-4724-B95F-CBB5DA565C9F_jpe-1944772.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/882D802D-89D0-4818-AF75-6513FF0CB438_jpe-1944773.JPG Tommy Gun had vfg |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 10:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Top 3 vodka I've ever tried was at a party at the Russian embassy. Bartender didn't know English so I just kept pointing at my glass for more. I tried asking what brand it was but I couldn't understand him so I guess theoretically it could been Polish. Anyway, what Polish vodka does GD recommend? My step Dad was a Smirnoff guy and my Dad drank the Swedish brands like Absolute |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 11:00:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Russians didn’t even invent vodka; the Polish did. And we all know, any time you find four Polish together.... you find a fifth. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 11:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are remembering correctly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I may not be remembering correctly, but Have Blue stealth was based off of a Soviet mathematicians works You are remembering correctly. Denys Overholser recognized the optical solution for reflections of radar frequencies that behaved in a similar manner. . |
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