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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If really forward looking... http://shuffsparkerizing.com/wp-content/gallery/mag-fed/012mg62nutmegport1500.jpg in .276 Pederson. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Americans looked at the STG-44 and said LOL No Way! Then the Soviets shat forth a mountain of Kalashnikovs and after the US encountered them, thought golly, maybe a box magazine fed Garand isn't the hotness we thought it was Very forward thinking IMO and would have saved us 20+ years of nonsense to come to same conclusion. M2 carbine would have been a good jumping off point though. If really forward looking... http://shuffsparkerizing.com/wp-content/gallery/mag-fed/012mg62nutmegport1500.jpg in .276 Pederson. Bullpup, lightweight, high-velocity intermediate cartridge, standard-issue optical sight  |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:19:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But the RPG-7 wasn't an "invention" so much as a development - after all, it was the 7th model of a handheld anti-tank rocket launcher, with the RPG-2 being the first model actually fielded by the Soviets. The Bazooka was the first, though the Soviet RPG series was a definite refinement, being much quicker and easier to load. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes. We literally copied some of their mobile bridging equipment during the Cold War. In more modern terms, we had RPG-7s produced in US under contract for FMA. But the RPG-7 wasn't an "invention" so much as a development - after all, it was the 7th model of a handheld anti-tank rocket launcher, with the RPG-2 being the first model actually fielded by the Soviets. The Bazooka was the first, though the Soviet RPG series was a definite refinement, being much quicker and easier to load.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:21:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. And the RPG-2 was a soviet copy of a German weapon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But the RPG-7 wasn't an "invention" so much as a development - after all, it was the 7th model of a handheld anti-tank rocket launcher, with the RPG-2 being the first model actually fielded by the Soviets. The Bazooka was the first, though the Soviet RPG series was a definite refinement, being much quicker and easier to load. Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. And the RPG-2 was a soviet copy of a German weapon. For non-guided munitions the RPG-7D (takedown version) is pretty much ideal except for some minor ergonomic issues that could be fixed in an Americanized weapon of the same basic design. Light, ability to launch a wide variety of payloads, very simple and cheap to make, and reusable. Add better materials and more efficient rockets and you'd have a real winner. Though the new lightened Carl G is pretty amazing as well, and probably a better fit for US service if we actually issue it in wide numbers. I want to see a multi-launcher Carl-G setup, like a Ontos turret but small enough to fit on a smaller vehicle RWS |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The US had been testing auto-loading tanks since before WW2 True but we are speaking of actually putting these things to practical use. While on that topic 6. Composite armor arrays. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:26:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Putting men in space   Women too technically
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Russians stole everything from Germany. So did we |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle Bullpup, lightweight, high-velocity intermediate cartridge, standard-issue optical sight http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/British_Assault_Rifles_MOD_45162602.jpg It would have been interesting to see mass production and adoption of those rifles. They would have had to have worked out some bugs. But I would have liked to have seen it. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True but we are speaking of actually putting these things to practical use. While on that topic 6. Composite armor arrays. Nvrmnd misread |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So did we Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Russians stole everything from Germany. So did we It all came down to which captured NAZI scientist your side got... |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 1:56:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. 
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Posted: 5/17/2021 2:20:51 PM EDT
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Built-in wire cutter on bayonet scabbards was inspired by Soviet model, IIRC.
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Posted: 5/17/2021 2:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif On 29 July 1955, U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower announced through his press secretary that, during the International Geophysical Year (IGY), the United States would launch an artificial satellite. Four days later, Leonid Sedov, a leading Soviet physicist, announced that they too would launch an artificial satellite. On 8 August, the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union approved the proposal to create an artificial satellite. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 2:51:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Soviets got to Berlin before we did. That means they got first dibs on Nazi rocket scientists and we got the leftovers. The Russians were absolutely ahead of us in the space race at the start but it was German brains that put them there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif On 29 July 1955, U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower announced through his press secretary that, during the International Geophysical Year (IGY), the United States would launch an artificial satellite. Four days later, Leonid Sedov, a leading Soviet physicist, announced that they too would launch an artificial satellite. On 8 August, the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union approved the proposal to create an artificial satellite. Sergei Korolev was the father of the Soviet space program. Depending on who you ask, ours is either Jack Parsons, or Wernher von Braun. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 3:05:06 PM EDT
[#14]
 The Engines That Came In From The Cold - And how The NK-33/RD-180 Came To The USA |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 3:06:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So did we Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Russians stole everything from Germany. So did we Like what? |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 3:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t recall this item back in the Cold War era https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5000CB05-78E7-43CF-B675-EA0638E700D7_jpe-1944771.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/5AA8FE2A-071B-4724-B95F-CBB5DA565C9F_jpe-1944772.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/882D802D-89D0-4818-AF75-6513FF0CB438_jpe-1944773.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/41F76426-3E41-4195-B9EB-F0E68725D601_jpe-1944777.JPG You know how I know those two boys ain't southern?. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 3:44:19 PM EDT
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I read somewhere that we reverse engineered this antitank grenade but never put it into production
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Posted: 5/17/2021 4:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RPG isn't in English. In Russian it is an acronym which means hand-held anti-tank grenade-thrower. ... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. And the RPG-2 was a soviet copy of a German weapon. RPG isn't in English. In Russian it is an acronym which means hand-held anti-tank grenade-thrower. ... This. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 4:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. And the RPG-2 was a soviet copy of a German weapon. RPG isn't in English. In Russian it is an acronym which means hand-held anti-tank grenade-thrower. ... This. Cool, didn't know that. ???-7, ?????? ??????????????? ?????????? – Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomyot |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 4:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, didn't know that. ???-7, ?????? ??????????????? ?????????? – Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomyot Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. And the RPG-2 was a soviet copy of a German weapon. RPG isn't in English. In Russian it is an acronym which means hand-held anti-tank grenade-thrower. ... This. Cool, didn't know that. ???-7, ?????? ??????????????? ?????????? – Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomyot If you're studying Russian, as I recall, have some fun with the root word for that "myot" part, it's the verb "??????." Damn near impossible to translate. I person can ?????? a spear, or a stick, and sometimes a sack or a bundle. Possible a rock, but not really, maybe if underhand, like a lob. And... here's the kicker... it's a verb for what a bird does with its eggs. So, it's a grenade layer. Edit.. actually, I don't think it works for birds. That was a brain fart. But it is the verb for fish laying eggs, though. I guess it's the imagery of the projection. Edit 2. Here's a reference with context sentences. https://ru.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/?????? |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 5:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of you're studying Russian, as I recall, have some fun with the root word for that "myot" part, it's the verb "??????." Damn near impossible to translate. I person can ?????? a spear, or a stick, and sometimes a sack or a bundle. Possible a rock, but not really, maybe if underhand, like a lob. And... here's the kicker... it's a verb for what a bird does with its eggs. So, it's a grenade layer. Edit.. actually, I don't think it works for birds. That was a brain fart. But it is the verb for fish laying eggs, though. I guess it's the imagery of the projection. Edit 2. Here's a reference with context sentences. https://ru.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/?????? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even though everyone calls the RPG-7 a rocket propelled grenade, the projectile isn't even rocket propelled. And the RPG-2 was a soviet copy of a German weapon. RPG isn't in English. In Russian it is an acronym which means hand-held anti-tank grenade-thrower. ... This. Cool, didn't know that. ???-7, ?????? ??????????????? ?????????? – Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomyot Of you're studying Russian, as I recall, have some fun with the root word for that "myot" part, it's the verb "??????." Damn near impossible to translate. I person can ?????? a spear, or a stick, and sometimes a sack or a bundle. Possible a rock, but not really, maybe if underhand, like a lob. And... here's the kicker... it's a verb for what a bird does with its eggs. So, it's a grenade layer. Edit.. actually, I don't think it works for birds. That was a brain fart. But it is the verb for fish laying eggs, though. I guess it's the imagery of the projection. Edit 2. Here's a reference with context sentences. https://ru.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/?????? I am, but haven't much lately....the apps only take you so far. Need to converse with the wife in Russian to really get it to sink in. ^ this all sounds about right for Russian though lol |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 5:53:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're studying Russian, as I recall, have some fun with the root word for that "myot" part, it's the verb "??????." Damn near impossible to translate. I person can ?????? a spear, or a stick, and sometimes a sack or a bundle. Possible a rock, but not really, maybe if underhand, like a lob. And... here's the kicker... it's a verb for what a bird does with its eggs. So, it's a grenade layer. Edit.. actually, I don't think it works for birds. That was a brain fart. But it is the verb for fish laying eggs, though. I guess it's the imagery of the projection. Edit 2. Here's a reference with context sentences. https://ru.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/?????? It's not unusual for a word like this, in many languages, to be used for unrelated, though figuratively similar, applications. Kind of like saying "throwing together dinner", or "throwing a dinner". In that case the word "throwing" means putting things together in a fast haphazard way. If you think this Russian word is "near impossible to translate", imagine how you learned the meaning of the English word "to throw" given the multiple different meanings it has. In any case, the Russian word for "machine gun" literally means "bullet thrower". |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 5:56:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vodka. Predates the USSR by just a little bit. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 6:07:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not unusual for a word like this, in many languages, to be used for unrelated, though figuratively similar, applications. Kind of like saying "throwing together dinner", or "throwing a dinner". In that case the word "throwing" means putting things together in a fast haphazard way. If you think this Russian word is "near impossible to translate", imagine how you learned the meaning of the English word "to throw" given the multiple different meanings it has. In any case, the Russian word for "machine gun" literally means "bullet thrower". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you're studying Russian, as I recall, have some fun with the root word for that "myot" part, it's the verb "??????." Damn near impossible to translate. I person can ?????? a spear, or a stick, and sometimes a sack or a bundle. Possible a rock, but not really, maybe if underhand, like a lob. And... here's the kicker... it's a verb for what a bird does with its eggs. So, it's a grenade layer. Edit.. actually, I don't think it works for birds. That was a brain fart. But it is the verb for fish laying eggs, though. I guess it's the imagery of the projection. Edit 2. Here's a reference with context sentences. https://ru.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/?????? It's not unusual for a word like this, in many languages, to be used for unrelated, though figuratively similar, applications. Kind of like saying "throwing together dinner", or "throwing a dinner". In that case the word "throwing" means putting things together in a fast haphazard way. If you think this Russian word is "near impossible to translate", imagine how you learned the meaning of the English word "to throw" given the multiple different meanings it has. In any case, the Russian word for "machine gun" literally means "bullet thrower". "Take" is another one in english. For most Russian verbs I can conceptualize a consistent metaphorical meaning to help me remember when to use it. ?????? completely trips me up. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 6:14:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: In terms of any sort of military equipment. Well, in case it has not been said: The Satellite |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 6:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are correct. A soviet mathematician worked out the equations you could use to model how much light would refract off of different geometric shapes. Soviet military looked at it, said "this has no military purposes, go ahead and publish it worldwide" because apparently the commies forgot that radar and light are both electromagnetic phenomena. Some dude at Lockheed saw it and snapped it right up to make the Have Blue model. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I may not be remembering correctly, but Have Blue stealth was based off of a Soviet mathematicians works You are correct. A soviet mathematician worked out the equations you could use to model how much light would refract off of different geometric shapes. Soviet military looked at it, said "this has no military purposes, go ahead and publish it worldwide" because apparently the commies forgot that radar and light are both electromagnetic phenomena. Some dude at Lockheed saw it and snapped it right up to make the Have Blue model. Yep: "To design the aircraft, the Skunk Works' design team leveraged the mathematics published by Soviet physicist and mathematician Petr Ufimtsev regarding the reflection of electromagnetic waves.[1] A stealth engineer at Lockheed, Denys Overholser, had read the publication and realized that Ufimtsev had created the mathematical theory and tools to do finite analysis of radar reflection." A lot more detail in Ben Rich's book, Skunk Works: A Personal Memoir of My Years at Lockheed. |
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Posted: 5/17/2021 7:41:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Basketball
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Posted: 5/18/2021 2:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 round magazine What weird is that the US ran 30rds all through WW2 in the Grease Gun, and also knew that both the STG44 an AK47 used 20rd mags. Meanwhile, we used 20rd mags in 7.62 M14's, and then developed 5.56 because it was 1/2 the weight of 7.62...and rather then embracing greatness and issuing 40rd mags as standard, went full retard and ran 20's in 5.56. |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 2:41:44 AM EDT
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If I recall correctly, I believe the Soviets originated the idea of 30 rounds as a standard magazine capacity.
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Posted: 5/18/2021 11:34:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would have been interesting to see mass production and adoption of those rifles. They would have had to have worked out some bugs. But I would have liked to have seen it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle Bullpup, lightweight, high-velocity intermediate cartridge, standard-issue optical sight http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/British_Assault_Rifles_MOD_45162602.jpg It would have been interesting to see mass production and adoption of those rifles. They would have had to have worked out some bugs. But I would have liked to have seen it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 11:38:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I recall correctly, I believe the Soviets originated the idea of 30 rounds as a standard magazine capacity. Not even remotely a Soviet invention. |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 1:50:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Yeah I think the US initially kept the 20rd capacity for the AR because semi-auto marksmanship was the primary training doctrine, and it allowed for a lower position in prone (therefore rendering the rifleman a smaller target, theoretically).
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