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Posted: 9/12/2022 8:14:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2022 8:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm quoting from Wikipedia only because I'm lazy. I know it's a den of leftists, but this sounds about right to me: Watership Down has been described as an allegory, with the labours of Hazel, Fiver, Bigwig, and Silver mirror the timeless struggles between tyranny and freedom, reason and blind emotion, and the individual and the corporate state. Adams draws on classical heroic and quest themes from Homer and Virgil, creating a story with epic motifs. WD is not a children's cartoon. It tackles very adult themes. It's only an animated cartoon because at the time they had no way to do CGI and there's no way to get live rabbits to do all that shit. All that said, I'd consider letting my child watch it because it has important things to say, and violence is a reality of human existence. Dreck like this fucking "Little Demon" thing has no place being shown to kids or IMO even existing. I'm sure our idiotic and immoral society will just love it though. It's just another of the thousand cuts... All that bluster, but you obviously didn't see parents dragging little Jeffy and Darla out of the theater while they were crying their eyes out ehen it opened. They didn't check what the intended audience of that movie was, just as you have not. Go yell at the clouds. |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 8:18:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a mason that let's his children follow the "kid's yoga" videos on YT. She would probably throw holy water on me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Was it Molon Lobster or something like that who though yoga was satanic and schools that had kids doing yoga in PE were corrupting them? Man, this sounds similar. My aunt (a Protestant Minister) thinks yoga is evil. She said it was introduced to the west to trick Americans into worshiping false gods and the fitness aspect of it is all a ruse to trick people. She also thinks Masons worship Satan. There’s no convincing her otherwise.  I'm a mason that let's his children follow the "kid's yoga" videos on YT. She would probably throw holy water on me. Nah. Protestants don’t really believe in Holy Water so you’re safe.  |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 8:19:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2022 8:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Do what thou wilt" is certainly a tenet of Satanists. Whether or not it appears in some "official" Satanic text is not the point. Just type that phrase in google, click "images" and then say with a straight face it isn't Satanic. As far as the second quote goes all I can say is that if that is an actual tenet of the "Satanic Temple" then that's even more damning for some folks here because that's what basically what people are arguing in this thread in defense of this show. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Do what thou wilt" is not a tenet of the Satanic Temple, but this one is. "The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own." "Do what thou wilt" is certainly a tenet of Satanists. Whether or not it appears in some "official" Satanic text is not the point. Just type that phrase in google, click "images" and then say with a straight face it isn't Satanic. As far as the second quote goes all I can say is that if that is an actual tenet of the "Satanic Temple" then that's even more damning for some folks here because that's what basically what people are arguing in this thread in defense of this show. Here's all the tenets. A lot of people would do well to follow them once in awhile. 
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Posted: 9/12/2022 9:50:31 PM EDT
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I’m outraged that you are outraged. It’s outrageous!
Actually, I think you’re pathetic that you’re so worried about a cartoon that you can’t even watch right now. Get a life. Seriously. Go do something. |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 10:23:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's all the tenets. A lot of people would do well to follow them once in awhile. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0428/0465/files/The_SEVEN_FUNDAMENTAL_TENETS_I_One_should_strive_to_act_with_compassion_and_empathy_toward_all_creatures_in_accordance_with_reason._II_The_struggle_for_justice_is_an_ongoing_and_neces_17c76a13-8f0b-4d0a-883f-9f950138519b.png?v=1639020013 
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Posted: 9/12/2022 10:52:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m outraged that you are outraged. It’s outrageous! Actually, I think you’re pathetic that you’re so worried about a cartoon that you can’t even watch right now. Get a life. Seriously. Go do something. Thats not how these threads work. He is warning you that your unguarded offspring will be contaminated by the horned red man because you are not looking after your sheep...eeer.....Kids. I think he may even have some literature that can help. |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 10:56:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: So disney is making an animated cartoon. It's about a lady who had sex with the devil and she now has a 13 year old daughter who is the anti-christ. Currently on fx and hulu, and they've already announced they're going to be broadcasting it on D+ in NZ and australia ... no timeline for the u.s. https://www.disneyplusinformer.com/when-is-little-demon-coming-to-disney-plus/ I guess after getting caught trying to groom kids and than openly doubling and tripling down on that, they've decided they decided to be more open and honest and start trying to openly joke as if evil is not real and something you can make less of. Anyone care to take bets about how long it takes for them to start broadcasting this series directly to kids on kids networks? The devil is as real as the cartoon is real. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 5:52:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did we just do this thread? https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/New-Disney-series-Little-Demon-Antichrist-is-the-lead-character/5-2582505/ |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 5:57:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a fun show that is no different than what we used to watch on Adult Swim 20 years ago Lucy, daughter of the devil. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 6:01:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Been done in 2005 if not earlier with Lucy: Daughter of the Devil. https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/04/lucy_the_daughter_of_the_devil.jpg DJ Jesus!! |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 6:10:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did but Karens gotta Karen Those pearls are not going to clutch themselves. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 6:34:17 AM EDT
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Still a show about getting kids to accept having sex with adults. Still a show where the Satan is cool! Still a show that is anti- Christian. Lot of pedo's around here. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 6:40:06 AM EDT
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It ain't good. It is just more of our cultural creep down the toilet. Frogs take a while to boil apparently.
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Posted: 9/13/2022 7:35:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Moral religious police are ALWAYS bad. You believe whatever the fuck you want. The moment they try to regulate a consensual non-violent activity that that adults want to engage in is a constitutional violation. I couldn't care less about what any Christian, Muslim, pagan, satanic, Buddhist, or other feel good rule book says. The US, as much as a lot of people here want it to be, is not a fundamentally Christian country. It is at its foundation a country of choice. But... but... but so many people chose wrong. "You can have freedom, if you do what I think you should be doing." |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 7:52:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Adults do have the choice to be corrupted. They have the choice to sin and do all sorts of horrible things. You just can't say that choosing to be corrupted and to sin is moral or "American" without being wrong or lying. Edited to add: everyone always goes on and fucking on about freedom. Rightly so I guess, we're certainly losing it piece by piece. However, with freedom comes RESPONSIBILITY. In fact, the more freedom you have, the more responsibility you have. You have the choice to do evil, but not the FREEDOM to do evil. If you define "to be corrupted and to sin" in terms of what your your particular religion does and doesn't allow, I damned well can and should describe that as American. In fact, that is the purpose of America. That I don't have to live by your religion and you don't have to live by mine. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 7:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still a show about getting kids to accept having sex with adults. Still a show where the Satan is cool! Still a show that is anti- Christian. Lot of pedo's around here. I haven't seen this show. Please, tell me how it is about getting kids to accept having sex with adults. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 8:14:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. LOTs of pagans that don't have anything to do with Satan. Hahahaha, yeah that's like saying a lot of Socialist and Marxist loving Democrats have nothing to do with Communism...  Are their some pagans who just enjoy the Celtic traditions or those who see themselves as druids prancing about the woods? Sure...but paganism loves the label of "diversity", yet all that diversity leads down the same path eventually. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:25:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hahahaha, yeah that's like saying a lot of Socialist and Marxist loving Democrats have nothing to do with Communism... Are their some pagans who just enjoy the Celtic traditions or those who see themselves as druids prancing about the woods? Sure...but paganism loves the label of "diversity", yet all that diversity leads down the same path eventually. ROCK6 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. LOTs of pagans that don't have anything to do with Satan. Hahahaha, yeah that's like saying a lot of Socialist and Marxist loving Democrats have nothing to do with Communism... Are their some pagans who just enjoy the Celtic traditions or those who see themselves as druids prancing about the woods? Sure...but paganism loves the label of "diversity", yet all that diversity leads down the same path eventually. ROCK6 How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:28:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DJ Jesus!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Been done in 2005 if not earlier with Lucy: Daughter of the Devil. https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/04/lucy_the_daughter_of_the_devil.jpg DJ Jesus!! "Hey, Lucy's dad!" |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:37:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:43:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep. LOTs of pagans that don't have anything to do with Satan. Hahahaha, yeah that's like saying a lot of Socialist and Marxist loving Democrats have nothing to do with Communism... Are their some pagans who just enjoy the Celtic traditions or those who see themselves as druids prancing about the woods? Sure...but paganism loves the label of "diversity", yet all that diversity leads down the same path eventually. ROCK6 How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? Edit to add: If you want to normalize paganism, as stated: go trick or treating; or put up a Christmas tree and exchange gifts during the 12 days of Christmas; or make an Easter basket. Or use words like January and Thursday. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:59:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? Everything that is not God is Satan, so all the time? |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:02:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything that is not God is Satan, so all the time? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? Everything that is not God is Satan, so all the time? Is pizza God or Satan? |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is pizza God or Satan? Depends on the toppings and type. White pizza, anchovies, black olives, or peppers = Satan Of course, some people will say that Hawai'in pizza (ham and pineapple) is Satan, but they are wrong. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:09:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: I’m outraged that you are outraged. It’s outrageous! Actually, I think you’re pathetic that you’re so worried about a cartoon that you can’t even watch right now. Get a life. Seriously. Go do something.  Attached FileQuoted: Still a show about getting kids to accept having sex with adults. Still a show where the Satan is cool! Still a show that is anti- Christian. Lot of pedo's around here.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:10:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is pizza God or Satan? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? Everything that is not God is Satan, so all the time? Is pizza God or Satan?  |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:15:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, so when it's not you getting stabbed in the eye and insulted, it's ok, and you don't have to turn your brains on and think. Do you also believe that molech worship isn't real either? ^^^ Yes, I'm asking you, that's not rhetorical. Would you laugh at a movie that made the horrors of murder and war out as something not evil, because they did it in a joking way? Even though it was teaching that bad stuff is not bad, it's good or at least indifferent? "This means nothing, so we can joke about it." As for harry potter: The worst sin of those books is that they frankly sucked. The writing was bland and the characters weren't compelling. Somewhere down the list was whatever effect they had in normalizing occult stuff (which, if you know what the word occult means, a contradiction). ETA: as for disney's part in this ... as I pointed out in the OP - how long before they are directly marketing this to children?  It's hard to take people here seriously. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:17:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on the toppings and type. White pizza, anchovies, black olives, or peppers = Satan Of course, some people will say that Hawai'in pizza (ham and pineapple) is Satan, but they are wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is pizza God or Satan? Depends on the toppings and type. White pizza, anchovies, black olives, or peppers = Satan Of course, some people will say that Hawai'in pizza (ham and pineapple) is Satan, but they are wrong. 
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Posted: 9/13/2022 12:46:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still a show about getting kids to accept having sex with adults. . You can't just drop that without specific examples to back your claim. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 1:35:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't just drop that without specific examples to back your claim. That's not how this works Rage porn doesn't need facts or references just emotions. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 1:42:23 PM EDT
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Did the mother agree to have the baby in exchange for a Datsun 280 ZX?
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:42:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's hard to take people here seriously. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ah, so when it's not you getting stabbed in the eye and insulted, it's ok, and you don't have to turn your brains on and think. Do you also believe that molech worship isn't real either? ^^^ Yes, I'm asking you, that's not rhetorical. Would you laugh at a movie that made the horrors of murder and war out as something not evil, because they did it in a joking way? Even though it was teaching that bad stuff is not bad, it's good or at least indifferent? "This means nothing, so we can joke about it." As for harry potter: The worst sin of those books is that they frankly sucked. The writing was bland and the characters weren't compelling. Somewhere down the list was whatever effect they had in normalizing occult stuff (which, if you know what the word occult means, a contradiction). ETA: as for disney's part in this ... as I pointed out in the OP - how long before they are directly marketing this to children? It's hard to take people here seriously. "I won't pick anything specific so it will be impossible to reply to what I've said and I won't have to show anyone what my cards are" 
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:45:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Been done in 2005 if not earlier with Lucy: Daughter of the Devil. https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/04/lucy_the_daughter_of_the_devil.jpg Wow, now there's a show that hasn't crossed my mind in many years |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit to add: If you want to normalize paganism, as stated: go trick or treating; or put up a Christmas tree and exchange gifts during the 12 days of Christmas; or make an Easter basket. Or use words like January and Thursday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep. LOTs of pagans that don't have anything to do with Satan. Hahahaha, yeah that's like saying a lot of Socialist and Marxist loving Democrats have nothing to do with Communism... Are their some pagans who just enjoy the Celtic traditions or those who see themselves as druids prancing about the woods? Sure...but paganism loves the label of "diversity", yet all that diversity leads down the same path eventually. ROCK6 How often does Lucifer show up in Norse or Greek or Roman or Slavic or Sami, etc. religions? Edit to add: If you want to normalize paganism, as stated: go trick or treating; or put up a Christmas tree and exchange gifts during the 12 days of Christmas; or make an Easter basket. Or use words like January and Thursday. I always have to chuckle when I see that. People who go this route don't apply their standards equally, and say that anything they do because christians do it is christianity. Also, clearly, if someone did something simliar before, it's not possible for anyone to do anything even remotely similar for ... (gasp) different reasons and ends. This kind of reasoning is classic in leftist-progressivist politics and we (correctly) point that out to make it obvious. Than we turn around and use the exact same forms ourselves. ----- Also, if you were going to try for snark, well, pagans used to be considered rural people, backwoods hicks who stuck to the previous ways. I mean, if yall wanna be religious rednecks...
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:48:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, now there's a show that hasn't crossed my mind in many years Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Been done in 2005 if not earlier with Lucy: Daughter of the Devil. https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/04/lucy_the_daughter_of_the_devil.jpg Wow, now there's a show that hasn't crossed my mind in many years Once again proving hollywood is creatively bankrupt.  I guess after all the other reboots and remakes they're down to scraping the rust and crud off the bottom of the barrel. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:54:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still a show about getting kids to accept having sex with adults. Still a show where the Satan is cool! Still a show that is anti- Christian. Lot of pedo's around here. Wtf? |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, if you were going to try for snark, well, pagans used to be considered rural people, backwoods hicks who stuck to the previous ways. I mean, if yall wanna be religious rednecks... I was, indeed, aware that is something the Catholic Church would say when attempting to control a people. So... you're calling pagans liberty loving conservatives?
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:54:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:56:46 PM EDT
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So don’t watch.
Problem solved. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:00:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once again proving hollywood is creatively bankrupt. I guess after all the other reboots and remakes they're down to scraping the rust and crud off the bottom of the barrel. It’s only rust or crud to you, because you have previously consumed it. For people that have never seen the OG point break, the newer one was just as shallow and mildly entertaining as the original. It’s just your old, familiar perspective clouding your view. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:01:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was, indeed, aware that is something the Catholic Church would say when attempting to control a people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Also, if you were going to try for snark, well, pagans used to be considered rural people, backwoods hicks who stuck to the previous ways. I mean, if yall wanna be religious rednecks... I was, indeed, aware that is something the Catholic Church would say when attempting to control a people. ... what has the catholic church got to do with this? That didn't exist in any meaningful way before 600 ad, long after what happend with constatius and his sire constantine screwing up the churches. So... you're calling pagans liberty loving conservatives? Nah. Just a bunch of sunburned people who bitterly cling to their altars and statues of molech and baal. 
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s only rust or crud to you, because you have previously consumed it. For people that have never seen the OG point break, the newer one was just as shallow and mildly entertaining as the original. It’s just your old, familiar perspective clouding your view. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Once again proving hollywood is creatively bankrupt. I guess after all the other reboots and remakes they're down to scraping the rust and crud off the bottom of the barrel. It’s only rust or crud to you, because you have previously consumed it. For people that have never seen the OG point break, the newer one was just as shallow and mildly entertaining as the original. It’s just your old, familiar perspective clouding your view. I never watched it. Didn't even know what it was or that it existed before I saw him mention it. Yes, you'zun caught me, I was presuming hollyweird was acting like hollyweird always does. Goofy me, I forgot, we're supposed to wub on hollywood.
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:05:11 PM EDT
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Already been done. Lucy Daughter of the Devil.
And that show, Lucifer, ain't to great either. Tons of evil stuff out there today. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:06:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... what has the catholic church got to do with this? That didn't exist in any meaningful way before 600 ad, long after what happend with constatius and his dire constantine screwing up the churches. Nah. Just a bunch of sunburned people who bitterly cling to their altars and statues of molech and baal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Also, if you were going to try for snark, well, pagans used to be considered rural people, backwoods hicks who stuck to the previous ways. I mean, if yall wanna be religious rednecks... I was, indeed, aware that is something the Catholic Church would say when attempting to control a people. ... what has the catholic church got to do with this? That didn't exist in any meaningful way before 600 ad, long after what happend with constatius and his dire constantine screwing up the churches. So... you're calling pagans liberty loving conservatives? Nah. Just a bunch of sunburned people who bitterly cling to their altars and statues of molech and baal. The church didn't begin to colonize Scandinavia or the Slavs until ~700-1100AD. The Germanic were around the same time. Ireland and Scotland and England were a bit before that, but not much. Molech and Baal are both from ancient middle eastern religions, neither of which would have had the term "pagan" properly applied to them, as those religions existed (and essential stopped existing LONG before the church started conquering Europe... and also... weren't in Europe). ... I'm just saying, this show has nothing to do with pagans or normalizing paganism. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:06:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. LOTs of pagans that don't have anything to do with Satan. The Bible teaches that all pagans are children of the wicked one. They (you IIRC) have everything to do with Satan. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:08:24 PM EDT
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Not your grand daddies Disney...
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you have no idea what I have or haven't read and you can't have a good reason for posting this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ah, so when it's not you getting stabbed in the eye and insulted, it's ok, and you don't have to turn your brains on and think. Do you also believe that molech worship isn't real either? ^^^ Yes, I'm asking you, that's not rhetorical. Would you laugh at a movie that made the horrors of murder and war out as something not evil, because they did it in a joking way? Even though it was teaching that bad stuff is not bad, it's good or at least indifferent? "This means nothing, so we can joke about it." As for harry potter: The worst sin of those books is that they frankly sucked. The writing was bland and the characters weren't compelling. Somewhere down the list was whatever effect they had in normalizing occult stuff (which, if you know what the word occult means, a contradiction). ETA: as for disney's part in this ... as I pointed out in the OP - how long before they are directly marketing this to children? You know how I know you haven't read classical literature? I know you have no idea what I have or haven't read and you can't have a good reason for posting this. I have a very good reason. You are showing your ignorance to the fact that literature has depicted humans struggle with moral fortitude and committing horrendous acts throughout its 2500+ years of existence. You must be totally outraged by the lascivious and murderous acts in ancient Greek texts and horrified by a humanized Satan in works like Paradise Lost or Foust. Yet these works are celebrated by scholars and religious leaders alike. For you to judge the very fabric of humanity by shredding people exploring various points of view and challenging its audience to confront their own ideology paints a clear picture of yourself. I don't need anyone telling me what I want to create nor what I want to consume. You are outraged because something doesn't align with your morality. That's cool for you, but don't push that on me. Lastly, you are upset about a cartoon. A Cartoon For Adults
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Posted: 9/13/2022 3:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bible teaches that all pagans are children of the wicked one. They (you IIRC) have everything to do with Satan. Amazing that one religion would say negative things about a competing religion. Next you will say that Democrats say negative things about Republicans. |
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