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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:24:58 PM EST
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Bro they'll cut a silk scarf in half just from gravity!
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:25:16 PM EST
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Not a sword guy and Hollywood blows things out of proportion but can samurai swords do the kind of damage they portray? You mean like cutting a person in half? Yup |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:25:24 PM EST
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47Ronin type damage?
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:25:55 PM EST
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Just a brittle sword, not magical in any way.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:26:16 PM EST
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Massive blood gushing etc
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:27:34 PM EST
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They remove heads and limbs.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:27:47 PM EST
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Check out the Nanking massacre.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:28:05 PM EST
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Massive blood gushing etc |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:29:07 PM EST
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Chip and break when they hit bone? Yep.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:30:38 PM EST
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Against unarmored opponents, they were pretty nasty. Against a medieval knight, wouldn't do much. Unless like any sword you get the tip through a slot or opening in the armor.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:32:02 PM EST
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/
But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:33:29 PM EST
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They were big, long and sharp. So, yeah, they'd hack off a limb or a head or pretty much gash the fuck out of someone dead.
But, so would a big axe. Or a big hand/half swod. What Hollywood gets wrong is the endless parrying and sword-on-sword blows during real fights. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:33:37 PM EST
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Not a sword guy and Hollywood blows things out of proportion but can samurai swords do the kind of damage they portray?  Japanese Katana VS European Longsword - Samurai sword VS Knight Broadsword |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:34:11 PM EST
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/ But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:34:49 PM EST
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They can saw through a 2x4 and cut a tin can (not the aluminum crap, either) in half, and yet still cleanly slice through soft bread.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:35:30 PM EST
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Swords aren't as sharp as knives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/ But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:36:59 PM EST
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they are great against unarmed civilians.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:38:24 PM EST
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Swords aren't as sharp as knives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/ But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:38:57 PM EST
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/ But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:40:04 PM EST
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The katana had superb cutting power, more so than the majority of European swords.
The reason was the curved shape of the blade and the very sharp edge. The edge shape was complex and it could be made sharper than Euro blades since it was harder (and consequently more brittle). Euro swords evolved for the armored battlefield, and were much better for that. But they had less cutting ability. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:40:32 PM EST
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All I know is I wouldn't want to get in a sword fight unless I had a full auto MP5 with HST.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:42:05 PM EST
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Well they might be as sharp as YOUR knives, but they aren't as sharp as mine. Most swords have a much thicker edge geometry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/ But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess.  my katana will shave arm hair.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:43:39 PM EST
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May your knife chip and shatter.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:43:39 PM EST
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:43:58 PM EST
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Well they might be as sharp as YOUR knives, but they aren't as sharp as mine. Most swords have a much thicker edge geometry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have you ever cut yourself with a brand new benchmade? I'd imagine that a 3 foot knife that sharp could lop off a head pretty easy if you were skilled enough/ But I'm like you op I don't know shit about swords that's just a guess. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:44:24 PM EST
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 Bottles beware! |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:45:00 PM EST
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nice work. Love the mirror finish. What do you sharpen with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
nice work. Love the mirror finish. What do you sharpen with? |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:45:21 PM EST
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No a collector but in the old days they used to measure how many bodies stacked on top of each other a clean downward thrust would cut. A good sword could cut 3 torsos.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:45:54 PM EST
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Depends on the maker.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:45:59 PM EST
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They cut marginally better than some other swords due to the blade shape. Similar to a cavalry saber but not quite as much as a talwar-type blade. They were made of soft iron with a steel edge welded on. They were not tempered so they would bend and stay bent. They were no sharper than any other sword. They were not good at piercing, and so were not very good against someone with metal armor. They can be compared to a short, overweight European saber.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:46:47 PM EST
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The endless smaking swords together in combat was bullshit. No sword would have survived a battle intact enough to use again. I can imagine 3/8" deep gashes from full force blows edge to edge. It's silly.
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:46:49 PM EST
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The katana had superb cutting power, more so than the majority of European swords. The reason was the curved shape of the blade and the very sharp edge. The edge shape was complex and it could be made sharper than Euro blades since it was harder (and consequently more brittle). Euro swords evolved for the armored battlefield, and were much better for that. But they had less cutting ability. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:47:29 PM EST
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Not a sword guy and Hollywood blows things out of proportion but can samurai swords do the kind of damage they portray? As for chopping people, it's like a Ginsu knife times 20, it's going to leave a huge gash. But, it's not going to break a bone though like a heavy sword could. But if it hits something very solid like rock or metal, it's going to dent or break and edge is going to get dull. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:47:57 PM EST
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Holy shit. You win the derp today |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:47:57 PM EST
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:48:17 PM EST
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Not really, they just leave a giant wound that bleeds out very fast.
In terms of strength, they are actually very fragile. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:48:54 PM EST
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Check out the Nanking massacre. Spelling? Bayonets and machine guns did most of the killing. Keep in mind that just about all the Jap officers that had one were not trained to use it. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:49:47 PM EST
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The endless smaking swords together in combat was bullshit. No sword would have survived a battle intact enough to use again. I can imagine 3/8" deep gashes from full force blows edge to edge. It's silly. 
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:49:49 PM EST
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I've practiced iado, kenjitsu, and kendo. Give me a proper European saber everyday of the week
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:50:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryMovie I'm currently watching
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:51:31 PM EST
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:52:06 PM EST
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The katana had superb cutting power, more so than the majority of European swords. The reason was the curved shape of the blade and the very sharp edge. The edge shape was complex and it could be made sharper than Euro blades since it was harder (and consequently more brittle). Euro swords evolved for the armored battlefield, and were much better for that. But they had less cutting ability. The Europeans had awesome cutting swords as well, such as falchions and messers. They also used them quite a bit, but Hollywood seems to like knights and so we see swords that are optimized for piercing armor and not for cutting. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:52:13 PM EST
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A good sword made from a high quality steel will easily remove a head, arm, or leg. Expect to pay over $1,000 and that won't get you anything fancy.
A good "Samurai" sword is not brittle. (They are differentially heat treated.) I trained under the highest ranking Grandmaster of Iai-Jutsu in the USA. Iai-Jutsu is the quick draw/quick kill art of the Samurai. Draw sword as enemy is attacking, deflect incoming blow, remove enemies head, deblood sword, resheathe sword. Object was to have your sword resheathed before your enemies head hit the ground. Under 3 seconds total. Hollywood depictions of Samurai are BS. Typical sword fight was over in 3 seconds, with one person dead. Unarmed combat would end in under 10 seconds, with one person dead. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:54:36 PM EST
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The samurai sword is not a thick steel blade like European swords. It's lighter and has a razor sharp edge. So samurai wore armor made of bamboo and leather so as not to get cut, but it wasn't metal plates like European armor. As for chopping people, it's like a Ginsu knife times 20, it's going to leave a huge gash. But, it's not going to break a bone though like a heavy sword could. But if it hits something very solid like rock or metal, it's going to dent or break and edge is going to get dull. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a sword guy and Hollywood blows things out of proportion but can samurai swords do the kind of damage they portray? As for chopping people, it's like a Ginsu knife times 20, it's going to leave a huge gash. But, it's not going to break a bone though like a heavy sword could. But if it hits something very solid like rock or metal, it's going to dent or break and edge is going to get dull. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:55:01 PM EST
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Holy shit. You win the derp today |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:56:06 PM EST
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Holy shit. You win the derp today Euro swords can be just as sharp with very good steel. Have you tried Tameshigiri with both? I have. I'd prefer a euro hand and a half sword or a saber over a katana. Longer blade, better cutter, and more hand protection. I have way more experience with katanas as well but see their shortcomings. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:56:24 PM EST
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The samurai sword is not a thick steel blade like European swords. It's lighter and has a razor sharp edge. So samurai wore armor made of bamboo and leather so as not to get cut, but it wasn't metal plates like European armor. As for chopping people, it's like a Ginsu knife times 20, it's going to leave a huge gash. But, it's not going to break a bone though like a heavy sword could. But if it hits something very solid like rock or metal, it's going to dent or break and edge is going to get dull. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not a sword guy and Hollywood blows things out of proportion but can samurai swords do the kind of damage they portray? As for chopping people, it's like a Ginsu knife times 20, it's going to leave a huge gash. But, it's not going to break a bone though like a heavy sword could. But if it hits something very solid like rock or metal, it's going to dent or break and edge is going to get dull. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:56:36 PM EST
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The samurai sword is not a thick steel blade like European swords. It's lighter and has a razor sharp edge. So samurai wore armor made of bamboo and leather so as not to get cut, but it wasn't metal plates like European armor. As for chopping people, it's like a Ginsu knife times 20, it's going to leave a huge gash. But, it's not going to break a bone though like a heavy sword could. But if it hits something very solid like rock or metal, it's going to dent or break and edge is going to get dull. Longsword: 3lbs (1.36kg), blade length: 36.25" (92.1cm), blade thickness: @1/8" (.32cm), grip length: 9.25" (23.5cm) to end of pommel Katana: 3lbs 2oz. (1.42kg), blade length: 28.75" (73.0cm), blade thickness:@3/16" (.48cm), tsuka (grip) length: 11" (27.9cm) to end of kashira Note the Katana is thicker, slightly heavier, and has less reach. A Katana can outcut a Longsword, but is inferior in the thrust, has shorter reach, and would be inferior in exploiting weak points in armor. |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:57:40 PM EST
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Well, he got the sharper than Euro blades part right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy shit. You win the derp today |
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Posted: 4/4/2017 6:58:47 PM EST
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