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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:03:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Never done a full on cow but I have done deer, hog, birds of different assortment (chicken, duck, dove, and quail), and a few other misc thing.  I think if faced with hunger I would be fine.
Hell I have even seen several autopsies not that I want to eat human.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:03:38 PM EDT
[#2]
I can, we used to process our deer ourselves when I was a kid. I take them to the processor now out of convenience.  I've never done anything bigger than a deer though, cow might be a challenge.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:05:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:05:45 PM EDT
[#4]
Does swallowing a bug count?
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:06:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes, a variety of fish, a variety of game birds, rabbits, squirrels and Deer.  Not for food, although they are edible, Muskrats and Raccoons.  Muskrats smell very bad when skinned, pee yew.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:11:01 PM EDT
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Wrong, pluck and enjoy
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Wild birds are easy.

Pheasant/turkeys you cut the breasts out and use the rest for coyote bait.
Duck/goose you cut the breast out and turn it into summer sausage.....and use the rest for coyote bait.
Grouse/quail you go Indiana Jones and pull the breast/breastbone out and use the rest for coyote bait.


Wrong, pluck and enjoy

Agree.  Lots of deliciousness in legs, wings, carcass, and offal.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:13:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Nice back fat on that buck.

Of course as a hunter my answer is yes I can.
Use to eat the tree rats all of the time as a kid.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:18:16 PM EDT
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Fish: Yes.

Deer and other four legged critters: yes, though not quickly or terribly efficiently

Birds: Honestly, never done it.  I suspect I'd figure out, though the first couple might be a real mess.
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A good set of poultry shears, a flexible boning knife, and - after a few - you'll be a pro.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:19:14 PM EDT
[#10]
I can do the classic gut, then hang, or I can do the poacher's special.  Poacher's special gets 90% of the useful meat off an animal without having to even gut the animal.   You end up walking out of the woods with a pack full of boned out meat, heart, and liver.  Leave all the guts, head, skin, and bones behind.  It took me 20 minutes to do the first deer myself after an old boy showed me how to do it.  

Of course to remain legal, the head with tag on it was taken out, but that was just to stay legal.  I don't eat the head, nor do I need the brains for tanning the hide.   It is actually easier than gutting the animal.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:26:19 PM EDT
[#11]
I haven't fully prepared any animals but fish, but I'm sure I could probably figure it out;

-kill it
-skin it
-remove poopy stuff
-cut it for cooking
-cook it
-eat it

Is that the gist of it?
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:26:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Field to fork.

Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:27:06 PM EDT
[#13]
fish, squirrel, and chicken. never done anything bigger than that.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:28:04 PM EDT
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Yeah that's what I was going for

But hell I think even the majority of the population under about 30 now a days would be scared to even take a knife near an animal
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Yes I do, but I am over 30!

Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:29:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Have the skills, the tools (and back ups), and do it regularly.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:29:45 PM EDT
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I believe you are looking for "efficiently"

Any idiot with a knife can cut a chunk of meat off an animal.  Getting as little waste as possible is the challenge.
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It's eerie how FP usually NI.  I can shoot a deer and hack off a piece of hind leg to roast, so I am certainly a hunter.  No problem there.  It's the rest of the deer going to waste that makes me a poor hunter.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:29:56 PM EDT
[#17]
Sure, but I would do a lot of cuts with the bone still attached.  More flavor plus less waste.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:30:35 PM EDT
[#18]
If it swims, walks, crawls, flies, slithers, or chirps.... I can kill it, process it, preserve it, and prepare it.

Cook it, can it, dry it, pickle it, salt it, and barrel it.

But I am a homesteader who lives in the woods most of the time.

Most people will be dead if our world ever goes tits up. Just a fact. Hope it doesn't happen.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:30:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Have done dozens of times.  Usually throw money at it these days.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:33:18 PM EDT
[#20]
Hmmmm...what other skills do they lack.?

My wife might recall her mother's skills.  Her mom actually processed chickens in front of the children.  Mine didn't and despite growing up on a farm I've never heard her claim to have done it..

Hopefully youtube will save the day.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:35:29 PM EDT
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It's eerie how FP usually NI.  I can shoot a deer and hack off a piece of hind leg to roast, so I am certainly a hunter.  No problem there.  It's the rest of the deer going to waste that makes me a poor hunter.
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I believe you are looking for "efficiently"

Any idiot with a knife can cut a chunk of meat off an animal.  Getting as little waste as possible is the challenge.


It's eerie how FP usually NI.  I can shoot a deer and hack off a piece of hind leg to roast, so I am certainly a hunter.  No problem there.  It's the rest of the deer going to waste that makes me a poor hunter.



There is also the "after". It's hard to eat 30 pounds of deer meat before it spoils. So the ability to preserve it without refrigeration is another topic. Especially in the warmer climates.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:39:11 PM EDT
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Was processing some chickens yesterday to fill out the freezer before the long of winter and got to thinking.

If shit really did "hit the fan" with the way society is today I think a lot of people would be fucked even with livestock right in front of them. Just seems like a lot of people now a days wouldn't know how to slaughter even a chicken or process a deer.

Sure there's animals I haven't done but the general process is similar for most animals.

So GD if there was a live chicken or pig or any animal in front of you do you possess the knowledge and skills to process is (relatively correctly) into useable food?
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I've done hundreds of birds when I was younger and hunting with my dad.   Birds and small game wouldn't be an issue.  Never done anything larger but I'm good with a knife and know the theory so I'd be ok.   The first few large game might be a bit rough though.  
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:40:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Learned to hunt and fish by age 5.

Cleaning and cooking came a few years later.

Not much more rewarding than harvesting ones own meal....from kill to grill.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:40:48 PM EDT
[#24]
Yes but I'm not confident in field dressing.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:41:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Yes.
I haven't done a beef in years but I'm pretty current on deer and elk.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:48:00 PM EDT
[#26]
It wouldn't be pretty, as I have no practical experience with anything other than fish, but I do have the general knowledge and would figure it out the rest.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:52:22 PM EDT
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With fish yeah. Never been hunting I'm sure I could get some meat but it sure as hell wouldn't be efficient. 
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This.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:55:16 PM EDT
[#28]
Proficient like a butcher, or like in the assembly line style vee-hook-on-the-wall rabbit raising thread?  No.

I have processed squirrel, pigeon, and deer with a passable result, but certainly not with the speed and efficiency of some of my friends.

Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:57:28 PM EDT
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Wild birds are easy.

Pheasant/turkeys you cut the breasts out and use the rest for coyote bait.
Duck/goose you cut the breast out and turn it into summer sausage.....and use the rest for coyote bait.
Grouse/quail you go Indiana Jones and pull the breast/breastbone out and use the rest for coyote bait.
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Lot of waste there.   there's a bunch of good meat on the pheasant and turkey thighs, plus the drum sticks and backs are good to boil for broth.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:57:37 PM EDT
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Was processing some chickens yesterday to fill out the freezer before the long of winter and got to thinking.

If shit really did "hit the fan" with the way society is today I think a lot of people would be fucked even with livestock right in front of them. Just seems like a lot of people now a days wouldn't know how to slaughter even a chicken or process a deer.

Sure there's animals I haven't done but the general process is similar for most animals.

So GD if there was a live chicken or pig or any animal in front of you do you possess the knowledge and skills to process is (relatively correctly) into useable food?
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You would be surprised what humans would do in order to survive.

That friendly old grandma that lives in 2B? She would eat your STILL LIVING dog if she were hungry enough.

Link Posted: 12/19/2016 1:59:55 PM EDT
[#31]
I can turn God's creatures into motherfucking high cuisine.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:00:34 PM EDT
[#32]
Sure.

If it's a chicken.  Wait for egg, eat egg, repeat.  
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:01:31 PM EDT
[#33]
you can eat anything on an  animal.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:02:21 PM EDT
[#34]
Process into raw meat? Yup all day.  Cook it?  Yup-may not be up ARF dinner pic standards but can eat.  Preserving for later use?  Not so much.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:02:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Lol, yes. And so does anyone else, even if they don't know it yet.

They just have to get hungry enough.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:03:21 PM EDT
[#36]
Lol. 
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:06:22 PM EDT
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Was processing some chickens yesterday to fill out the freezer before the long of winter and got to thinking.

If shit really did "hit the fan" with the way society is today I think a lot of people would be fucked even with livestock right in front of them. Just seems like a lot of people now a days wouldn't know how to slaughter even a chicken or process a deer.

Sure there's animals I haven't done but the general process is similar for most animals.

So GD if there was a live chicken or pig or any animal in front of you do you possess the knowledge and skills to process is (relatively correctly) into useable food?
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I think they would be too. Would they be able to get meat in their mouths? Yes.  Would much of it be contaminated or make them sick? Yes. Sooner or later if they don't know what they are doing they are going to get sick. Never mind being able to process it properly so it tastes good.




Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:08:01 PM EDT
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This. I'd waste more meat than some, faaaar less than most.
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IDK, I'm old and just started hunting 10 years ago. I found that the 30.06 wasted more meat than my butchering.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:09:19 PM EDT
[#39]
No I do not. But I know how to brew mead and how to make internet porn work.

So, I can barter my way for food.  
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:10:03 PM EDT
[#40]
When I first moved out on my own, skinless, bonless chicken breast was two bucks a pound and then price doubled, so I bought a whole bird at 99 cents a pound. There I stood in my kitchen, trying to cut up a whole (already gutted, cleaned, and ready for the oven) bird into it's constituent parts, and finding myself grossed out by it.

Twenty some years later, I'm now going out into the woods and reducing living wild animals into meat for my table.  So, yeah, I think I could handle it fine.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:11:45 PM EDT
[#41]
Spilling any of the gut or stomach content on the carcass greatly accelerates the decaying process, so knowing how to properly clean game can mean the difference between dying from food poisoning or not.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:12:49 PM EDT
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Was processing some chickens yesterday to fill out the freezer before the long of winter and got to thinking.

If shit really did "hit the fan" with the way society is today I think a lot of people would be fucked even with livestock right in front of them. Just seems like a lot of people now a days wouldn't know how to slaughter even a chicken or process a deer.

Sure there's animals I haven't done but the general process is similar for most animals.

So GD if there was a live chicken or pig or any animal in front of you do you possess the knowledge and skills to process is (relatively correctly) into useable food?
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Yes.. but it wouldn't be as pretty or efficient as many here
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:15:44 PM EDT
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Yeah that's what I was going for

But hell I think even the majority of the population under about 30 now a days would be scared to even take a knife near an animal
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I think you underestimate the power of hunger. 
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:19:30 PM EDT
[#44]
I don't personally possess the skills, but I do possess them.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:19:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Hell yes.  What self-respecting manperson doesn't?

Been fishing and hunting damn near my whole life.  Teaching my kids the same.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:20:41 PM EDT
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I don't like plucking, but had the mind to research and build a very effective tub plucker.  I have little desire to pluck one chicken at a time, but a batch of 10 is no real problem.  Pigs used to be a lot of work, but getting much better with practice.  (Did my first chicken a couple years ago, did a batch of 35 last year.  Did hogs for years, but last year went gutless.  For years made 50-100lbs of sausage at a party.  Got uninvited because I was Republican (rather than blue dog democrat).  New smoker needs about 20 minutes of work to fire up and test, but I am sick and it is fucking cold outside.  Really sucks because I fully planned making sausage this week.  Should not have built it in the cold last week I guess.

will post pic in a few minutes.  It is built to use a controlled draft smoke generator, regulated by a BBQ guru.  Walls are airgapped ply (weatherproofed with sheet metal), with the draft being between the inner and outer wall (to both insulate and prevent natural draft-due to the controlled draft smoke generator).  I need to test to see if I want to use stove gasket on the door,  still need to bend the lip of the door back and plumb in the smoke generator.

everyone keeps asking me if it will cold smoke. It was not designed to cold smoke, but I could easily modify the smoke generator to do it.  Currently the smoke generator will be housed inside for heat.  If I move it outside, I could run cold smoke through it.  The current smoke generator is a micro UDS (made from a tamale pot), but all fire basket.  If I want cold, I will just use my BBQ UDS and take a hose from the smokestack.
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not sure what is up.  Attached the pics this afternoon, edit mode still shows them, but they are not displaying anymore. Oh well.  I ended up "finishing" the smoker and doing a test smoke.  It was working beyond my hopes.  Hit temps effortlessly, held them.  All I needed to do is run out the test to its end.  Then things went to shit.  I had the temp set at 150, planning on ramping it after 1 1/2 hours to 160 or 170.  I was checking it every 10-15 minutes.  At about 1:15, I went outside and heard my guru alarm-and saw flames...  The grill in the tamale pot had melted, dropping hot coals on the bottom of the pot.  They inturn melted through the bottom of the tamale pot and into the ducting of air intake.  That caught on fire, burning out the bottom of the smoker.  I think the damage was mostly limited to the tamale pot, floor, and ducting.  I did not have my anti backdraft device installed, so the blower motor was damaged, but still runs.  Luckily I had removed the controller from its box for the test.  I caught the flames shortly before they went up the chimney ducting-there was some charring up to the walls-that would have probably gotten the fire department on scene...  

I could have stopped all of this with a steel fire pan (I have had a commercial pizza pan in the fire box of my UPS for years-which I thought was also aluminum), but did not expect 2 layers of the tamale cooker to fail.  Likewise, the anti backdraft device was only out because I wanted to test the design did not need it.  Will post some of this on the UDS mother thread, as the tamale cooker was originally from a smokie joe UDSplan.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:20:46 PM EDT
[#47]
Fish yes, bigger animals no
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:21:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:25:05 PM EDT
[#49]
Yes, even made a thread about doing it.....

It's meat time
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 2:27:26 PM EDT
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This. I'd waste more meat than some, faaaar less than most.
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That's what soup/stock is for.  Toss what's left of the carcass in a pot of water.  Zero waste.
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