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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:54:57 AM EDT
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All forms of media are going to pull out all the stops to ensure he loses. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a Twitter ban soon and Google is going to do a lot of fucking with the search results to paint whatever picture they want.
He's got a pretty big hill to climb. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:56:25 AM EDT
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Better to ask, "Do you really think lightning will strike twice?"
Dems in media, tech, leftstream press, and whoreywierd are pulling out all the stops to prevent Trump's reelection. These efforts will make max use of ballot harvesting, illegal immigrants, the dead, and other forms of voter fraud. Trump has a smaller chance to win in 2020 than he did in 2016. Dems are not overconfident and complacent this time. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:56:31 AM EDT
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The Dems have figured out the new way to win - appeal to every wacko out there.
You do not want to pay your bills because you are a victim? The DNC is here for you. You think everyone should have a pony? The DNC is here for you. You want to abort your 5 year old child? The DNC is here for you. You are a man that thinks he is woman that thinks she is a lesbian dog that like male cats? The DNC is here for you. There is strength in numbers and those wackos are strong numbers because wackos will go out and vote. Add in their voter fraud and the media as a working part of the DNC and I think it is going to be tough hill to climb. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:56:36 AM EDT
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I voted good chance because T is in a great position to pess of his base over gun control and further flubbing on the border.
And HRC is still not in prison. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:57:51 AM EDT
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Probably yes, half the country hates him, he barely won 3 blue states that could/will turn back with the right D running. That said, I hope not, Trump is a 2A asshole but I am appreciating his economy, far more than I ever did old Barackus'. Unfortunately the presidential elections are binary. 
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:58:15 AM EDT
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This is the biggest fear I have. I think Donald will take it, but this will be a hard fought election. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably yes, half the country hates him, he barely won 3 blue states that could/will turn back with the right D running. That said, I hope not, Trump is a 2A asshole but I am appreciating his economy, far more than I ever did old Barackus'. I think Donald will take it, but this will be a hard fought election. 
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:58:25 AM EDT
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Trump will win a second term in a walk.
Free shit or not, only the most commie candidate will be the nominee. And it's one or two election cycles away from that being OK. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:59:08 AM EDT
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Dems are not overconfident and complacent this time. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:59:17 AM EDT
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This right here. Lately I've started to become a little worried, they are going to stop at nothing to win this election, in other words they're going to cheat in every way possible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Steal it yes. Beat outright no. Yeah they're going to stop at nothing. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 9:59:27 AM EDT
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It's going to be close.
The demographic shift is something that can't be won...and those numbers are going up by the thousands daily, the fraud will be massive....I'm not that optimistic to be honest. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:01:40 AM EDT
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No idea who will win. But IMO ANY GOP candidate now faces a massive lopsided disadvantage based on 2 things.
1) Hugely effective media campaign against anything right of center. I mean since W they have insinuated every candidate or president with an R is literally Hitler. It does have more impact than those who don't buy it think. 2) DEMs start with a massive advantage with NY and CA in the bag. Rs have o win all the swing states. Lose one, like Florida, and game over. Not saying he can't win. It depends on quality of DEM campaign and state of the economy etc. But it is no sure thing either. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:02:27 AM EDT
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Yep, the country doesn't give a shit about the economy, they put Nancy Piglosi back in power. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:02:55 AM EDT
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FLORIDA. Democrats from Puerto Rico have been flooding into Florida ever since Hurricane Maria devastated the struggling island in September 2017. They absolutely HATE president Trump. That hate will drive many to vote in 2020. Not sure how we can win without Florida. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:04:52 AM EDT
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Without cheating? No
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:05:35 AM EDT
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Never underestimate the enemy. The left has the high ground. And has had it for a long time. Think about everything they control in our society. Frankly, it is amazing that we won in 2016 considering the sheer numbers of leftists and their ability to convert and control people. Being a conservative is as natural as breathing. That is why we do as well as we are without the complicated machine the left wields. The left needs that cradle to grave propaganda machine because they are not just getting people to vote.. They are converting people to a religion. And that requires constant messaging and peer pressure. Never before in history has the lefts propaganda machine been as finely tuned and powerful as it is today. They devoted vast resources researching where they fell short in 2016 and are actively shoring up their cracks in the system for 2020.
Cheating is very much a part of their machine. You could easily see during the midterm elections them trying various ways of counting ineligible votes and seeing how far they could push the limits. Especially in the courts where we don't see things. With leftist judges already sprinkled pretty much everywhere in our legal system, they don't have many obstacles to overcome. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:07:41 AM EDT
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Slight chance - It will depend on 1) Their ticket selection and 2) Whether or not Trump does anything really stupid. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:09:25 AM EDT
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No chance to win legitimately. They have a great chance to steal it with censorship, lies, corruption, and outright voter fraud. I am not confident and worry-free that Trump will definitely win.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:09:45 AM EDT
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Not at the moment but a lot can change in the next year and half.
Look at what happen to the H.W. Bush, he went from hero to zero pretty quick. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:10:07 AM EDT
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Anyone who thinks in this political climate that the Democrats don't at least have a chance is woefully ignorant.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:11:30 AM EDT
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Yes, demographics and media bias go against us.
The left is really fired up for 2020 and were caught napping in 2016. Florida is worrying, as is Arizona. Bad demographic swings in both places If they run a remotely competent GoTV effort I can easily see them reclaiming PA. We need every single vote we can get |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:11:52 AM EDT
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half the county are idiots
so maybe |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:13:45 AM EDT
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I'm afraid Trump has done too little to stop the demographic shift in the U.S. to have any really impact. I voted for Trump based solely on the fact that he took the toughest line on immigration. We have been slowly losing our country to the urban globalist communists for decades and 2016 was a Hail Mary to try to reverse the trend. It was an impossible task given how many communist operatives we now know are operating within the federal bureaucracy and both political parties.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:14:06 AM EDT
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:14:16 AM EDT
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It will be all about voter turnout.
If Republicans are complacent or not happy with Trump (bumpstocks, anyone?) and stay home, he'll lose. MSM and the Democrats are and will continue to do everything they can to keep their base fired up and get them to the polls. I expect there will be a lot of fraud as well. Republicans need turnout to counter the fraud and MSM. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:15:14 AM EDT
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Conservatives don't get involved.
The RNC has it's head up it's ass. There will be massive voter fraud. The big money players will screw with the economy/stock market and cause a recession before the election. The media will scream The Bad Orange Man is even badder than we thought- listen to us! I wish I was wrong, but I'm not. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:17:45 AM EDT
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Well when you consider he barely won both several dem states, and Florida with the fact he has energized all the leftists and pissed off some of his base.
Then further consider his own party works against him, and we've had four more years of moral rot and changing demographics it does not make me comfortable at all about 2020. He may pull it off, he is full of surprises but it will be a very hard nasty fight with a very slim margin if he wins. Even though their party is a collection of crappy nutjob candidates they are starting with very sizable percentage of the vote that won't care and they will engage massive amounts of fraud. So yes they definitely have a decent chance. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:17:56 AM EDT
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Yes, they do. The only reason he won the last time is because Hillary was such an insufferable cunt that even the MSM couldn't hide it. That mistake won't be made again. The behavior of whoever they pick will be carefully cultivated to maximize the contrast between their "reasonable and adult" candidate and paint Trump as a petulant child.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:17:57 AM EDT
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FLORIDA. Democrats from Puerto Rico have been flooding into Florida ever since Hurricane Maria devastated the struggling island in September 2017. They absolutely HATE president Trump. That hate will drive many to vote in 2020. Not sure how we can win without Florida. The Puerto Rican are and have been flooding into PA as well. Some parts of the state I go into, I would have thought I was in San Jaun. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:18:45 AM EDT
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MASSIVE voter fraud will be their weapon.
The leftist media will be in full on Propaganda mode, and corporate censorship (which libertarians love) will be silencing all conservative voices. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:18:58 AM EDT
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Sure they do |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:19:26 AM EDT
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Of course they have a chance. I’m cautiously optimistic he’ll win, but I think it will be close. Then they'll do their usual "it's a mandate" thing to reinforce their cheating. We need to start playing dirty, or get used to losing. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:19:53 AM EDT
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I think Biden will win PA and OH.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:20:29 AM EDT
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Depends. How hard can they crank up the old fraud machine?
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:21:07 AM EDT
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If they dump the 20 seat merry-go-round they're all riding and seriously get behind one strong candidate, I think they have a good shot at it.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:21:49 AM EDT
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Yes.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:21:50 AM EDT
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In a fair fight? No way. But with cheating, sure.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:25:37 AM EDT
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An incumbent usually has a bit of an advantage. Trump is really, really unpopular though and that sort of negates that advantage.
It's really going to come down to who the Democrats nominate. If it's a kook like Bernie or Warren, Trump will probably win rather handily. Someone a little more moderate? It's going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Should be interesting to watch. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:28:19 AM EDT
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A lot will depend on who is the nominee but with the right person they can definitely beat him. He won in 2016 by about 50,000 votes spread over 3 rustbelt states against the democrat with the most baggage imaginable.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:32:37 AM EDT
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An incumbent usually has a bit of an advantage. Trump is really, really unpopular though and that sort of negates that advantage. It's really going to come down to who the Democrats nominate. If it's a kook like Bernie or Warren, Trump will probably win rather handily. Someone a little more moderate? It's going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Should be interesting to watch. They aren't going to portray her the way we think of her here. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:33:38 AM EDT
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you damn sure cant trust polls. I predict almost every poll thats produced over the next 475 days will say trumps opponent is at 90% chance of winning, vs trumps 10%, so trump supporters might as well not waste their time voting for him, the other guy is a sure win.
demorat fraud, voter fraud, fake news fake made up polls, and lets not forget media platforms, google, facebook, etc blocking and banning trump supporters messages while promoting liberal / demorat messages. etc. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:33:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:34:52 AM EDT
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An incumbent usually has a bit of an advantage. Trump is really, really unpopular though and that sort of negates that advantage. It's really going to come down to who the Democrats nominate. If it's a kook like Bernie or Warren, Trump will probably win rather handily. Someone a little more moderate? It's going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Should be interesting to watch. 
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:35:32 AM EDT
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The democrats are the masters of voter fraud. More than 100% turnout, drivers licenses and motor voter for illegals, busing voters to other places, registering the dead, voting multiple times. These are things the democrats excel at.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:36:15 AM EDT
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I'm sure the DNC bosses have already pre-ordained someone that hits several of their SJW check boxes but has the ability to rush towards centrist positions with the help of the media when the time comes. We are just waiting to find out who that someone is.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:36:25 AM EDT
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The Democrat is a lock in NY, NJ, CT, VA, CA, OR, WA, IL, MD, RI, MN. There will be an epic scale of voter fraud in OH, MI, FL, GA, PA, WI. Trump may legitimately win, but unless he wins in a landslide it will be close or a loss in those key states.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:39:57 AM EDT
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the board should get polled on how much 'expression of opinion' should be allow, for people to work towards Trump losing the 2020 general election
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:42:00 AM EDT
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Yes, demographics and media bias go against us. The left is really fired up for 2020 and were caught napping in 2016. Florida is worrying, as is Arizona. Bad demographic swings in both places If they run a remotely competent GoTV effort I can easily see them reclaiming PA. We need every single vote we can get AZ has anchors coming of age, FL has 200k Puerto Ricans and 1,000,000 felons that can now vote there. If the dems run a centrist candidate (like Biden) to pick up the middle of the roaders, low info and union guys and a Hispanic VPOTUS (like Julian Castro) to get the hispanic turnout numbers up, they are going to be tough to beat. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:43:32 AM EDT
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They have a really good chance of winning by stuffing the ballot boxes.
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:44:43 AM EDT
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Conservatives don't get involved. The RNC has it's head up it's ass. There will be massive voter fraud. The big money players will screw with the economy/stock market and cause a recession before the election. The media will scream The Bad Orange Man is even badder than we thought- listen to us! I wish I was wrong, but I'm not. The RNC establishment is upset that Trump showed up and ruined their plans. They were supposed to lose so they could go back to their happy place as the blustery minority party. Making all the noise and feathering their nests (and those of their supporters). There is very little love for a disruptive outsider in DC regardless of party. |
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Posted: 6/27/2019 10:52:17 AM EDT
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I think Warren is actually a strong candidate. They aren't going to portray her the way we think of her here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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An incumbent usually has a bit of an advantage. Trump is really, really unpopular though and that sort of negates that advantage. It's really going to come down to who the Democrats nominate. If it's a kook like Bernie or Warren, Trump will probably win rather handily. Someone a little more moderate? It's going to be an uphill battle for Trump. Should be interesting to watch. They aren't going to portray her the way we think of her here. Who knows, though. Everything's going to be fluid until a nominee is chosen. If the Dems choose someone who can at least be perceived as a moderate (see Obama, 2008) then they've got a chance. They pick someone from the kooky wing of the party and they're probably toast... |
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