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Posted: 5/12/2019 8:16:16 AM EST
Or rather that people will willing put up with such a bull shit move if they ever tried it?
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:17:41 AM EST
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Why yes, yes he does. As do all the other anti-gunners.  We law abiding gun owners are the problem here.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:18:51 AM EST
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I know we don't believe in polls, but Fox showed a poll about a week ago showing something like 90% of those polled agree with an AWB.

ETA: maybe not 90% but it was a crazy high number, which shocked me.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:19:15 AM EST
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he thinks if we don’t they (the government) have the tools to handle it
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:19:47 AM EST
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If he had any balls whatsoever he’d offer to be the one to come get them.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:20:54 AM EST
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

He doesn’t care what you or I think about his plans because he believes we’re criminals already.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:21:03 AM EST
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Fuck that jag off !

Corey booker = mocha Jesus 2.0 ?
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:21:31 AM EST
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And it will. Why do you think GD neckbeards?

People won't do shit but sell their shit for an 8700% profit, and shit
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:21:58 AM EST
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Do any of the supreme elite politician overlords ever offer to be the one to do it?

They'll get it eventually, if not federal then state by state which is already in progress.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:22:49 AM EST
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

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Don't lump all people from NJ in with that communist dick sucking faggot.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:22:51 AM EST
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Did you really think an anti-American muslim with ties to actual terrorists would ever get elected to Congress?  Did you really think the concept of more than male and female sexes would actually exist and be lauded as the new norm?

A few more mass shootings by some fucktard before 2020, a lot more anti2A propaganda stories spewed up by the MSM for the pablum-sucking American sheeple and, yeah, I really think an outright semi auto ban will fly in the US.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:24:14 AM EST
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He and others running for POTUS sure think it is a winning strategy, one thing is for sure if the do somehow get elected running on this platform it become a mandate and a death knell to the 2nd.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:24:33 AM EST
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Don't lump all people from NJ in with that communist dick sucking faggot.
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

He doesn’t care what you or I think about his plans because he believes we’re criminals already.
Don't lump all people from NJ in with that communist dick sucking faggot.
I didn’t. Reread my post.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:25:05 AM EST
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He and others running for POTUS sure think it is a winning strategy, one thing is for sure if the do somehow get elected running on this platform it become a mandate and a death knell to the 2nd.
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Just a matter of time with the changing demographics
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:26:13 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:27:24 AM EST
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I know we don't believe in polls, but Fox showed a poll about a week ago showing something like 90% of those polled agree with an AWB.

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Polls can be easily manipulated to say whatever you want.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:27:52 AM EST
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It's just a stepping stone to their actual goal of banning all guns.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:28:21 AM EST
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Booker is an American black male, far and away the most murderously violent group in contemporary Western society.
He will say and/or do anything to distract white Americans from that fact; and when he can’t distract them from it,
he’ll blame them for it.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:28:23 AM EST
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I don't trust polls at all. Zero faith because they're run by people with an agenda.
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I know we don't believe in polls, but Fox showed a poll about a week ago showing something like 90% of those polled agree with an AWB.

ETA: maybe not 90% but it was a crazy high number, which shocked me.
I don't trust polls at all. Zero faith because they're run by people with an agenda.
Amen to that !!
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:29:07 AM EST
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I don’t doubt it one bit.

It’s been 25 years since the first one .

Now think how much the media and education propaganda have dumbed down the general public.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:31:41 AM EST
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I agree with your post.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:31:43 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:31:44 AM EST
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he thinks if we don’t they (the government) have the tools to handle it
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Or rather that people will willing put up with such a bull shit move if they ever tried it?
he thinks if we don’t they (the government) have the tools to handle it
They (the government) have the tools to handle the drug epidemic.  Do they?  How about this so called immigration epidemic?

Having the tools, and actually using them are 2 different things.

What will happen is, some of them will be turned in.  A lot of them won't.  Most of them will end up in closets and attics.  Will they be used?  Occasionally.  Will government use this as an excuse to further erode our Constitutional rights?  Absolutely.

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Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:32:06 AM EST
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I know we don't believe in polls, but Fox showed a poll about a week ago showing something like 90% of those polled agree with an AWB.

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I am 57 years old and have owned a land line phone or a cell phone for since I was 20 years old. 37 years...

I have NEVER been contacted for a poll OR my opinion on anything by anyone...

Who,what,where,when,how these POLLS?
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:32:35 AM EST
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

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Growing up in nj the only people I saw who had guns were the police, criminals and my grandpa(ww2 bring backs)  soon as he died grandma sold all of it to some guy from pa for $500

Guns are very taboo in nj from my experience
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:33:06 AM EST
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Gotta believe real common sense will prevail and people will not trade freedom and personal power for restriction and false promises of security.

So what if 100% of the time that hasn't been the case in the past, this time will be different.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:33:18 AM EST
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He wants registration, which is easier than an outright ban.

Which will lead to ban and confiscation after a few more years of conditioning.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:35:07 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:36:06 AM EST
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Cory is like many others running for president they have never experience anything out side the big city they live in and therefore have a very limited education. If they get elected their education will be on a very steep curve.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:36:19 AM EST
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I am 57 years old and have owned a land line phone or a cell phone for since I was 20 years old. 37 years...

I have NEVER been contacted for a poll OR my opinion on anything by anyone...

Who,what,where,when,how these POLLS?
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I know we don't believe in polls, but Fox showed a poll about a week ago showing something like 90% of those polled agree with an AWB.

ETA: maybe not 90% but it was a crazy high number, which shocked me.
I am 57 years old and have owned a land line phone or a cell phone for since I was 20 years old. 37 years...

I have NEVER been contacted for a poll OR my opinion on anything by anyone...

Who,what,where,when,how these POLLS?
When you need a poll, you make up the numbers to fit your agenda.  It's the American way.  It's also cheaper than actually hiring a polling firm. Nobody checks so why not?
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:36:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:38:04 AM EST
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Booker is an American black male, far and away the most murderously violent group in contemporary Western society.
He will say and/or do anything to distract white Americans from that fact; and when he can’t distract them from it,
he’ll blame them for it.
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Truths & facts would, indeed, be counterproductive to his efforts...
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:39:08 AM EST
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If they keep pushing it nonstop every year and make it a cornerstone of their platform, it morphs into "reasonable".
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:41:22 AM EST
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I hope to God himself they follow this strategy. Put it out front and run with it.

If "We the People"(TM) formed a Constitutional convention and repealed the Amendment I would know in my heart that it was a mistake but at least the taking of my inalienable (look the word up if you don't know what it means) right would have been done the legal and correct way.

Read that Amendment, read the Constitution and tell me HOW IN THE LORD'S GOOD NAME THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO ESCAPE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION.

"We the People" need to take charge of the federal and state governments and put them back on their leash.
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He and others running for POTUS sure think it is a winning strategy, one thing is for sure if the do somehow get elected running on this platform it become a mandate and a death knell to the 2nd.
I hope to God himself they follow this strategy. Put it out front and run with it.

If "We the People"(TM) formed a Constitutional convention and repealed the Amendment I would know in my heart that it was a mistake but at least the taking of my inalienable (look the word up if you don't know what it means) right would have been done the legal and correct way.

Read that Amendment, read the Constitution and tell me HOW IN THE LORD'S GOOD NAME THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO ESCAPE THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION.

"We the People" need to take charge of the federal and state governments and put them back on their leash.
It’s good to be the king...
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:41:54 AM EST
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FPNI. I guarantee Booker hasn’t given it an iota of thought. It’s just the leftists default position these days.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:43:45 AM EST
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Polls are generally meant to influence, not forecast.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:43:55 AM EST
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Booker is an American black male, far and away the most murderously violent group in contemporary Western society.
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he’ll blame them for it.
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That right there is a perfect description of Cory Booker, add in much ignorance and arrogance too.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:45:54 AM EST
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Eventually, hopefully later than sooner, Booker, and all of us, will get the chance to find out. It will come eventually. Or at least, the attempt.
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I didn’t. Reread my post.
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

He doesn’t care what you or I think about his plans because he believes we’re criminals already.
Don't lump all people from NJ in with that communist dick sucking faggot.
I didn’t. Reread my post.
You're right. My apologies.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:47:10 AM EST
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The goal of the anti-gun left is to completely eliminate privately owned firearms.  Some are more bold than others in their proposals but they are all working towards the same end goal.
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

He doesn’t care what you or I think about his plans because he believes we’re criminals already.
Don't lump all people from NJ in with that communist dick sucking faggot.
I didn’t. Reread my post.
You're right. My apologies.
No problem.

(NJ expat here with friends still behind enemy lines. Speaking from experience, not randomly shitting on everyone in NJ)
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:50:16 AM EST
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Assault weapon is an undefined and scary term to people.

After you establish an undefined scary thing, you can then lump in whatever you want under an AW ban.

If someone in here thinks “people” in a lot states want freedom over being able to have whatever gets lumped into an AWB you’re nuts.

Let’s be honest the left isn’t only against guns and freedom, they are against anything they portray is a traditional value to white men.

Most stereotypical gun owners are white men so anything opposed to those traditions, is a good thing to most folks on the left.

It’s more of a how can we piss them off situation than a what’s best for me situation.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:50:44 AM EST
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He wants registration, which is easier than an outright ban.

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We've already got registration. We register every handgun we buy. We don't register long guns but I'm sure the state keeps records of ever 4473 that gets filled out.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:53:06 AM EST
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No problem.

(NJ expat here with friends still behind enemy lines. Speaking from experience, not randomly shitting on everyone in NJ)
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He is from NJ. Like many from there he has no idea about guns or the mindset of the rest of the country when it comes to guns.

When he pictures a gun owner in his mind he pictures a criminal.

He doesn’t care what you or I think about his plans because he believes we’re criminals already.
Don't lump all people from NJ in with that communist dick sucking faggot.
I didn’t. Reread my post.
You're right. My apologies.
No problem.

(NJ expat here with friends still behind enemy lines. Speaking from experience, not randomly shitting on everyone in NJ)
Wife and I have been fighting to get out of this socialist shit hole for a few years. We got close in 2017 but failed. We'll try again in a couple more years.
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He wants registration, which is easier than an outright ban.

Which will lead to ban and confiscation after a few more years of conditioning.
We've already got registration. We register every handgun we buy. We don't register long guns but I'm sure the state keeps records of ever 4473 that gets filled out.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:54:59 AM EST
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Try to be a Timmy

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That right there is a perfect description of Cory Booker, add in much ignorance and arrogance too.
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Booker is an American black male, far and away the most murderously violent group in contemporary Western society.
He will say and/or do anything to distract white Americans from that fact; and when he can’t distract them from it,
he’ll blame them for it.
That right there is a perfect description of Cory Booker, add in much ignorance and arrogance too.
It is perfect. Don't forget how much we are hated for having the temerity to vote
for someone they did not want. The jackass wants to punish us for that. Gun control
is just one element of the festival of doom he has planned...of that you can be sure.
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 8:57:42 AM EST
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From 2018...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243860/snapshot-majority-oppose-ban-assault-rifles.aspx

This doesn't mean you are wrong. you can skew the results of a poll by how you as the question.

And one other thing about polls is they rarely measure the intensity with which someone holds a belief.

In the above case it is a simple yes/no question of whether you want to ban the semi automatic firearms known as assault rifles.

And let's say that the answers to the question are 60/40% in favor of banning these guns. Seems pretty clear cut as to what the politically smart thing to do is. But suppose you asked the same question, gave the following possible answers, and got the following responses...

0.01% Absolutely, ban assault rifles and I will happily send myself and my children into people's homes to either die, or kill them and their families, in order to remove these horrible engines of mass murder.

1% Absolutely, ban assault rifles. I'm not personally going to go die or kill for it, but I am happy if gun owners and their children get killed and I will be fine with paying the tax bill for this program.

5% Sure, and I'm fine with people going to prison for having them and I'll even pay more taxes to get rid of these evil killing machines. I'm not going to fight for it though, I'm against violence except for violence done by ANTIFA or the government on my behalf. But I won't personally participate.

10% Yes, I want to see them banned, and I will vote based on a candidates position on assault rifles because no gun needs a shoulder thing that goes up. But I won't pay more taxes and I'm not going to consent to having my house searched in the middle of the night. And I really don't want to see millions of Americans sent to prison, because I secretly know it's the gun owning Americans who produce all the wealth that goes to pay my welfare and they can't work if they are in prison.

44% Sure, I guess, maybe. I mean I won't vote on the issue, I don't care really. But I am expected to say yes, so yes.

20% Absolutely not. I will actively oppose any politician who votes for more gun control and fund their opponents. I'm probably not going to go start a revolution over this though. But if one starts I'll support it, at least from the rear.

10% Absolutely not, I will oppose any politician who supports more gun control and I will not comply, at least until the swat team shows up at my door. I will encourage my state and local officials to ignore these laws and if my state decides to fight over the issue I will join in.

10% Absolutely not, over my dead body and I mean it.

Given a spread like that the 60/40 split isn't so clear cut. And that's the problem politicians really face. There are millions upon millions of Americans who will actively vote against gun control. Supporting gun control earns you lifelong political enemies. But there aren't that many rabid anti gun people. The lukewarm gun control supporters are not going to ever actually have their votes turn on that issue. So in reality that 60/40 split is more like a 15/40 split with another 45% or so just not really caring one way or another.
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