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Link Posted: 3/22/2019 8:49:35 AM EST
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I got into lockpicking because of GD mentioning it and something to learn with my boys. My 6 year old picked a master lock before he went to school this morning. It's no big feat but lpl and bb make it look way easier than it is, especially raking.

I bought this cheap set from China on lockpickinglawyer and bosnianbills recommendation. It was only 10$ on the slow boat and  came with a wallet set and clear demonstration lock. It's held up so far, no broken picks yet. It was just enough to get my feet wet and figure out what else I needed so I have some hooks and tensioners coming from sparrow.

I'm a complete amateur but looking over the padlocks at Walmart I know I could pick them all. I'm gonna snag a practice lock off ebay next so I can rekey for more of a challenge.

Link Posted: 3/22/2019 11:11:53 AM EST
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Are you building challenge locks?
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Currently, I'm using the Sparrows 6 pin re-keyable (Schlage pattern) practice locks.  They are quite loose as far as locks go but seem to be on par with regular Schlage residential cut cylinders.  
ABUS makes line of cylinders for padlocks using re-keyable Schlage pins this will be my next tighter tolerance area to work on.

The Sparrows pick gun works ok but is noisy, bump keys work good on some locks too but neither are an end all. Picking one pin at a time is still the art of the whole thing.

A few times a month we have a group of local guys that get together for steak night at a machine shop afterhours.  Lots of times I bring my bag of locks and picking tools for us to mess around with.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 1:20:51 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/22/2019 1:43:10 PM EST
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If you don't want to waste time, get a masterpick kronos.  Opens locks like butter.
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I will look into it
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 1:53:29 PM EST
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I think I have used my padlock shims more than my picks.
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Shims look fun too.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 2:13:25 PM EST
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Aren't those things like, $300?
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 2:25:40 PM EST
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I got into lockpicking because of GD mentioning it and something to learn with my boys. My 6 year old picked a master lock before he went to school this morning. It's no big feat but lpl and bb make it look way easier than it is, especially raking.

I bought this cheap set from China on lockpickinglawyer and bosnianbills recommendation. It was only 10$ on the slow boat and  came with a wallet set and clear demonstration lock. It's held up so far, no broken picks yet. It was just enough to get my feet wet and figure out what else I needed so I have some hooks and tensioners coming from sparrow.

I'm a complete amateur but looking over the padlocks at Walmart I know I could pick them all. I'm gonna snag a practice lock off ebay next so I can rekey for more of a challenge.

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I used to pick the locks at the high school I went to. If was my fun lunch activity. The fun ended when someone complained.

The school wasn't happy that I could open every lock in the school, even the ones they didn't have keys for. (It was a very old school)
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 2:31:23 PM EST
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No, that's called the "master key"
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 2:48:10 PM EST
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Working on an American 1100 with this bitting.

Fun.

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Yikes...hope that last one is first bind.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 5:08:48 PM EST
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I need to get a more mobile vice and get back to practicing but have pretty much every tool you can imagine.

Large sparrows kits, and kits from peterson, I just picked up a multipick kronos electric pick (very nice).

My favorite set was was a pair of wallet size titanium flat bogata picks from an EDC/survival website. I had by far the most success with those until i lost the small hook one.

My favorites are bypass tools, it’s not picking it’s cheating the system. I’m a security manager by profession, no real need to be able to do this but I like to know how so I can imagine and demonstrate how folks would try to penetrate physical security.

+1 on Bosnianbill he makes it all look easy, and he’s realistic, doesn’t mess around if he’s on a paid case and can’t open it in a minute or two he brute forces through the problem set really quickly. The only thing I really don’t have in my collection is bump keys.

ETA- since getting into the hobby i’ve grown a box of random and strange locks, I chose to secure my stuff with locks I know I can open (deterent locks) or if I really want it protected I buy high security abus locks from securitysnobs.com
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This.  Picking a lock is hard work compared to other ways to get through most doors - especially if they spring for some Medico super high security lockset.  In modern office buildings, a can of air usually gets you through doors faster than picking if they have standard PIR REX sensors.  GE has very secure dual sensor REX sensors that require a moving body - but they cost more so aren't too common.

Going over or under a door to pull the handle is quick.

I just moved a large client of ours - no more details to protect the innocent - (I built out their IT infrastructure) and was shocked.  Their brand new REX sensors are can of air easy.  The keypad locks all have the master code set to the street address.  Prox cards are easy to copy.  Arrrgh.

I have picked my way into server rooms that no one had a key to.  That generally shocks them when you're through the door in about a minute.  Had to do plenty of network equipment enclosures also.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 5:46:05 PM EST
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I used to pick the locks at the high school I went to. If was my fun lunch activity. The fun ended when someone complained.

The school wasn't happy that I could open every lock in the school, even the ones they didn't have keys for. (It was a very old school)
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I got into lockpicking because of GD mentioning it and something to learn with my boys. My 6 year old picked a master lock before he went to school this morning. It's no big feat but lpl and bb make it look way easier than it is, especially raking.

I bought this cheap set from China on lockpickinglawyer and bosnianbills recommendation. It was only 10$ on the slow boat and  came with a wallet set and clear demonstration lock. It's held up so far, no broken picks yet. It was just enough to get my feet wet and figure out what else I needed so I have some hooks and tensioners coming from sparrow.

I'm a complete amateur but looking over the padlocks at Walmart I know I could pick them all. I'm gonna snag a practice lock off ebay next so I can rekey for more of a challenge.

https://des.gbtcdn.com/uploads/2015/201508/heditor/201508271133569795.jpg
I used to pick the locks at the high school I went to. If was my fun lunch activity. The fun ended when someone complained.

The school wasn't happy that I could open every lock in the school, even the ones they didn't have keys for. (It was a very old school)
That's awesome!

I just ran into the first I cannot pick and it surprised me. It's the brinks r60 from Walmart at the bottom. There is heavy spring tension and I can get a deep false set and then nothing with no feedback. I have about half an hour on it. I wouldn't think it to be difficult looking at similar locks on YouTube.

In the he upper right is my favorite. It's not terribly difficult with only 4 pins but it gives amazing counter rotation feedback on two pins in the back. A great trainer for sure.

Upper left claims 9/10 on security and is a breeze to pick. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 5:52:25 PM EST
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I've got a stainless steel pick set from HPC.  I also have a small set of titanium picks.  Damnest thing.  I never learned how to use a pick gun properly.  I can manually pick a lock, I can use bump keys, I just never learned the trick to use the gun.  I can also pick an Ace tubular lock, with a special pick.

The best way to learn is to get a piece of plywood, and mount it to a frame.  Go to your hardware store and buy various locks.  Drill holes in the plywood and mount the locks.  You can easily build a practice set, using real world locks.  You can get practice locks at places like southord.com, but it'll cost you more for an inferior lock
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 5:53:17 PM EST
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So I have a really hard time picking the brass lock that came with my Sparrow set, I think I’ve succeeded maybe two times. After watching some more videos I decided to try some door locks around my house. They were much easier, and prompted by my new found success I just ordered some more picks from Sparrow.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 6:11:17 PM EST
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That's another thing, I wore blisters on my middle finger knuckle.  I was wondering how to get some more comfortable picks.  I may have to check out some rubber tubing or something.
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Home Depot has a rubber dip you can use
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 6:19:03 PM EST
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Cool thread.

Buddy of mine got heavy into lockpicking as a hobby, taught me a few things, well enough to get most Masterlocks and cheapies. I have been meaning to pick up a set of picks for myself, bought a couple as Christmas gifts for people, forgot to grab one for myself.

Somebody may or may not have picked the gate lock for a few thousand acres of forest service access roads/trails and used it as a private offroad park during the 1990s.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 6:22:37 PM EST
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Any recommendations on a starter set?
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I picked up a picking set (pun not intended) from amazon which included 20 or so picks and a practice lock to pass time and gain a skill.
Any recommendations on a starter set?
I've been a big fan of the kits I got from The Open Organization of Lockpickers page.  The Tremendous Twelve Toolkit is very nice.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 6:29:13 PM EST
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Tag. It's something I've always been interested in, but never really done it, save the odd times i had to get in a desk drawer...but that's not exactly difficult.  I swear I have read that the metal "bristles" from a street sweeper can be made into decent picks.  I have no idea, but I see them all the time when I am out running.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 7:23:03 PM EST
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So I have a really hard time picking the brass lock that came with my Sparrow set, I think I’ve succeeded maybe two times. After watching some more videos I decided to try some door locks around my house. They were much easier, and prompted by my new found success I just ordered some more picks from Sparrow.
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Hell yea, I'm going to order a set from sparrow
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 7:30:38 PM EST
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Lol one of the last times this topic came up i got drunk and ordered a sparrows lock set, lock pin set, and key cutter.

It has come in handy a few times but people can freak out and I'm sure you will be the first they point a finger at if stuff goes missing
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 7:33:36 PM EST
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Its tactical was big on picking sets last I remember. Unsubscribed from their mailer late last year- so don’t remember 100%.

But they seemed to have quality stuff way back when.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 7:44:06 PM EST
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Hell yea, I'm going to order a set from sparrow
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You won't be disappointed, they're some of the best picks on the market IMO.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 7:46:06 PM EST
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Lol one of the last times this topic came up i got drunk and ordered a sparrows lock set, lock pin set, and key cutter.

It has come in handy a few times but people can freak out and I'm sure you will be the first they point a finger at if stuff goes missing
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I get that a lot when I tell people I lock pick.

"What are you going to steal?"

Me: "Not a damn thing, I'm not a fucking thief."
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 7:55:48 PM EST
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These locks are pretty easy and fun to pick.

The Master No5 is pathetic.
The Brinks Commercial is easy.
The Brinks R60 and R70 were somewhat challenging, but easy once you figure them out.

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Link Posted: 3/22/2019 8:16:21 PM EST
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Any better than a lock-pic gun?
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 9:50:39 PM EST
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These locks are pretty easy and fun to pick.

The Master No5 is pathetic.
The Brinks Commercial is easy.
The Brinks R60 and R70 were somewhat challenging, but easy once you figure them out.

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So what's the secret with the r60? How old is it? It's the first one that I haven't got through, not that I've tried anything considered difficult.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 10:05:42 PM EST
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I've dabbled at it for a few years.  Got to where I could manage most residential deadbolts and normal padlocks.

It's a perishable skill though and I have not had extra time to mess with it lately. When I've needed to do it a couple times to help with lockouts, I had no luck. Forget about old locks that have been out in the weather.

For practical use, bypass tools are great to have and know how to use.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 10:10:47 PM EST
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youtube

lock picking lawyer

you're welcome
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 10:12:54 PM EST
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Work smart, not hard... This is the 21st century.

[567] Ramset Fail? Abus "Rock" 83/80
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 10:16:35 PM EST
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I've dabbled at it for a few years.  Got to where I could manage most residential deadbolts and normal padlocks.

It's a perishable skill though and I have not had extra time to mess with it lately. When I've needed to do it a couple times to help with lockouts, I had no luck. Forget about old locks that have been out in the weather.

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My biggest problem was on a door is way different than sitting watching tv with the door lock in your hand. I built a piece of wood to mount like a on an actual door. Also lube the lock before attempting to open it helps a ton
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 10:29:40 PM EST
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Tag. It's something I've always been interested in, but never really done it, save the odd times i had to get in a desk drawer...but that's not exactly difficult.  I swear I have read that the metal "bristles" from a street sweeper can be made into decent picks.  I have no idea, but I see them all the time when I am out running.
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You can make pretty decent stuff with street sweeper bristles, or the stainless strips out of windshield wipers. I've made a couple of decent "bogata" sets from them.
Link Posted: 3/22/2019 10:35:27 PM EST
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I'm not very good, but after learning the basics at "teach what you know" gathering a few years ago I'm passable at picking a lot of simple locks, mostly padlocks.

I did buy a new front door lock shortly after picking it in under 20 seconds. That was a little disturbing
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 2:08:59 AM EST
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I'm not very good, but after learning the basics at "teach what you know" gathering a few years ago I'm passable at picking a lot of simple locks, mostly padlocks.

I did buy a new front door lock shortly after picking it in under 20 seconds. That was a little disturbing
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The deadbolt on the back door of my old house opened with a single rock from a bogataw, every time. Took longer to get the tension wrench positioned than open the lock.

I never worried much. Most criminals don't pick locks, and if they really wanted in, they could break the glass. Alarm system nullified chance of a stealthy entry.
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 7:21:55 AM EST
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I fiddle around with it.  Gets me into locked control boxes when customers change locks.
I really need a spinner.   Man that sounds like fun.  Spinner.....wish I had a spinner
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 7:58:58 AM EST
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Tag
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 11:05:50 AM EST
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been thinking about getting a set and playing with it, may come in handy at work where everyone locks themselves out of everything.

what are the bypass tools/techniques people are talking about? How about that can of air?
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 11:19:44 AM EST
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I like Sparrow and even Southard, but Peterson makes the best tools IMO.

https://www.thinkpeterson.com/
Link Posted: 3/23/2019 11:41:56 AM EST
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been thinking about getting a set and playing with it, may come in handy at work where everyone locks themselves out of everything.

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Like I mentioned above be careful about telling/showing work people about your skill. You will get blamed for EVERYTHING that goes missing.
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 5:49:11 AM EST
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I like Sparrow and even Southard, but Peterson makes the best tools IMO.

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It seems like sparrow has more picks for around the same money.  Should I stay away from the .15 thickness stuff?
Link Posted: 3/24/2019 8:56:42 AM EST
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My neighbor decided to lose his keys while out drinking yesterday. My new skill got him inside to sleep it off and I owe it all to GD.

It was a schlage, I had to rake it into a deep false set and then pick what was left to get it to open. I'm thinking the rakes in my Chinese kit are not really up to snuff since I never seem to have much luck with raking. I need to buy that worm and snake that Bosnianbill always seems to use.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 11:53:42 AM EST
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IIRC, possession of a lockpick in Ohio is illegal.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 6:20:05 PM EST
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Re-ignition of thread.

I’ve broken a couple picks in the last few days picking.

Anyone have experience or links to quality long-term Steel or Titanium picks?

I’ve been using the Sparrow’s which are supposedly overkill but apparently my picking is strong.
Link Posted: 3/25/2019 9:01:29 PM EST
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Rakes break. If you are breaking hooks, you need to change up your technique.

I keep a couple extra tripple peak rakes from sparrows on hand because that seems to be the one I always break.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 11:16:31 AM EST
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Once again GD is spending my money.  I already had a decent Southord set but couldn't resist the urge to try the Sparrows Tuxedo set along with a few extras.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 11:30:01 AM EST
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Try peterson for their lockpicking tools. Sparrow is overpriced and there are only a few of their tools you want to use anyway.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 11:40:26 AM EST
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Reddit lock picking sub is a good resource. They have different "belts" you can get after reaching certain milestones. I know it sounds a little goofy but I've found it's actually very useful for finding locks appropriate for my skill level and progressing at a steady pace.

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Link Posted: 3/27/2019 12:16:16 PM EST
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Reddit lock picking sub is a good resource. They have different "belts" you can get after reaching certain milestones. I know it sounds a little goofy but I've found it's actually very useful for finding locks appropriate for my skill level and progressing at a steady pace.

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I’ve picked every Master lock I have including one you have pictured mulptiple times.

I cannot pick the ABUS 72/40 for the life of me.

Thanks for the suggestions regarding picks guys, I’ll check out Peterson.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 12:17:06 PM EST
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Yea both of those guys make it look easy.  Do you know any good sources on better picks than the chinesium ones I have.  I broke a city rake AMD another pick the other night.  I did get a meal out of a pick bet though which is good.
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I'm a neophyte, but it's fun so far.

Bosnian Bill in YouTube makes some good videos on the subject. He makes it look easy though.
Yea both of those guys make it look easy.  Do you know any good sources on better picks than the chinesium ones I have.  I broke a city rake AMD another pick the other night.  I did get a meal out of a pick bet though which is good.
Sparrows.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 12:41:26 PM EST
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I used to work maintenance for a school district. Most of the structures were old. It is very easy to open classroom doors as they are used frequently, just rattle the knob vigorously back and forth and the door will open. I made my own picks out of nails or wire. The hardest to pick was a filing cabinet, the small lock in the upper right hand corner. Another hard to pick was a lock with a key that had small detent holes instead of teeth. Fun stuff picking locks.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 8:03:44 PM EST
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I've picked every Master lock I have including one you have pictured mulptiple times.

I cannot pick the ABUS 72/40 for the life of me.

Thanks for the suggestions regarding picks guys, I'll check out Peterson.
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Yeah, I pretty much zoomed through the masters. I'm stuck on the ABUS 55/40 and my dads old Junkunc Bros. from his army footlocker.
Link Posted: 3/27/2019 8:10:39 PM EST
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This is where you need to go
https://www.sparrowslockpicks.com/
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