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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:59:43 AM EST
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So I finally got the #5 picked 4 times. Doesn't seem too bad for a complete rookie
Gotta take a break and do some yard work. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 9:27:15 AM EST
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I have a couple S&G locks, have not attempted at all, they have shrouded/doors on the key ways. I use ABUS when I need a lock, they are so unique most folks wouldn’t understand how to defeat them if all they’ve ever seen was tumbler locks. Better off cutting through the wall than trying to defeat one of those locks they’re so tough. Never have been able to open a 5200 series, I did open one of the “harder” masterlocks, with no tension tumbler, and security pins a couple times. It was hit or miss. They have 3 serrated pins and two spools, so you have to pick it until it false sets on the spools, then deal with those. The game changer for me on those locks was a tight fitting top of keyway tension wrench and a .015" deep hook pick. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 12:24:51 PM EST
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Anyone know if owning locks picks is legal in NYS (upstate)
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Posted: 4/6/2019 1:03:13 PM EST
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IANAL, but a quick google search says about the same thing as IN law. If you’re not using them to burgler, you’re fine. Are there locksmiths in NYS? I bet they have them.
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Posted: 4/6/2019 4:41:42 PM EST
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I have a few padlocks that are keyed with a Medico core. Wonder if they are pickable. I have never tried.
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Posted: 4/11/2019 9:37:07 PM EST
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I found 7 loto locks the other day that were from.someone who quit and I'm assuming has the key, key way was tight as hell but was finally to get them picked after about 10 mins of messing with them.
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Posted: 4/13/2019 11:32:45 PM EST
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Finally thought to open that chinese lockpick kit I got from woot or tmart. Clear plastic lock. Less than helpful instructions, but after playing with the stuff for awhile, it started to make sense. I was regularly opening the lock while watching TV and doing it by feel.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 8:59:57 PM EST
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Finally thought to open that chinese lockpick kit I got from woot or tmart. Clear plastic lock. Less than helpful instructions, but after playing with the stuff for awhile, it started to make sense. I was regularly opening the lock while watching TV and doing it by feel. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 9:06:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, but GD has plenty of booger pickers.
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Posted: 4/22/2019 12:50:50 PM EST
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Posted: 4/26/2019 2:04:07 PM EST
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That wasn't near as difficult as I thought it would be. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/322675/rps20190422_124952_954_jpg-921371.JPG |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:50:35 PM EST
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Mastwrlocks are great starter locks super easy to get in most of the time Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That wasn't near as difficult as I thought it would be. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/322675/rps20190422_124952_954_jpg-921371.JPG Unfortunately, I've already made this one a rattle so now I have to attempt to rebuild it. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:57:55 PM EST
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I own my own business ( not lock picking). There are times I pick 20 locks a day ranging from pad locks, safe locks, door locks, dead bolts, gun locks, car doors, and more. I picked it up as a hobby knowing I'd use it. My line of work it's a must. My pick rate is about 95%.
I picked up a number of pick sets to have, car jigglers, and a auto slim Jim, wedge, and inflated kits. It's all payed itself of within the first day of use. |
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Posted: 4/30/2019 3:05:03 PM EST
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That wasn't near as difficult as I thought it would be. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/322675/rps20190422_124952_954_jpg-921371.JPG |
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Posted: 5/2/2019 1:43:58 PM EST
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That’s impressive. I can’t open my Masterlock LOTO looks like that yet. Still having trouble with the ABUS LOTO locks too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That wasn't near as difficult as I thought it would be. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/322675/rps20190422_124952_954_jpg-921371.JPG Both my disk locks and one master lock are actually more difficult to open. |
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Posted: 5/2/2019 7:59:02 PM EST
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Does anyone want to help me figure out how to put together a lock picking pass around box kind of thing?
I was thinking about something cheap to ship, like a small flat rate box and throwing a couple of locks in, and mailing it around to give interested people the opportunity to try different locks and maybe different tools. I have a couple of locks that I wouldn't mind passing around, and I could probably even build a challenge lock. I just have no idea how to organize something like that. |
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Posted: 5/2/2019 10:43:49 PM EST
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Does anyone want to help me figure out how to put together a lock picking pass around box kind of thing? I was thinking about something cheap to ship, like a small flat rate box and throwing a couple of locks in, and mailing it around to give interested people the opportunity to try different locks and maybe different tools. I have a couple of locks that I wouldn't mind passing around, and I could probably even build a challenge lock. I just have no idea how to organize something like that. It would be way cheaper to start just passing them around. So DFARM. Want to set up a little trade? We'll pass them onto the next arfcommer after we are done? |
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Posted: 5/2/2019 11:55:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes I'm definitely interested in something like this. I'm bored of my locks to the point that I'm not playing with them anymore. I'm also to the point that I don't want to spend money on a bunch of new locks. It would be way cheaper to start just passing them around. So DFARM. Want to set up a little trade? We'll pass them onto the next arfcommer after we are done? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:14:15 AM EST
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I tinker with picking, now and again. Get a set of bump keys. They work shockingly well. I bumpkeyed open my office door in may 5-10 secs. When I travel I pick the mini bar in the room for fun. I dont take anything but its fun to practice on.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:26:33 AM EST
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OST, I want to fuck around with this.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 8:44:25 PM EST
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Finally found the pics of my drunken night on ebay. Also a bonus convertible pic I made
  
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Posted: 5/4/2019 10:32:31 AM EST
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Finally found the pics of my drunken night on ebay. Also a bonus convertible pic I made https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151113_160316_zpsitaf2mw5.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151112_215611_zps4ayu9osz.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151112_215706_zpsgbms1rwa.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151112_215630_zpsszqx57vo.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/IMG_20151122_200314_zpsavm7b47w.jpg |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 9:07:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWeird delayed double tap
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Posted: 5/4/2019 9:20:03 PM EST
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That is awesome. Back when I was guerilla lock smithing a lot, I was stuck building padlock sets using pins harvested from locks that others had cut off. Lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Finally found the pics of my drunken night on ebay. Also a bonus convertible pic I made https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151113_160316_zpsitaf2mw5.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151112_215611_zps4ayu9osz.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151112_215706_zpsgbms1rwa.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/20151112_215630_zpsszqx57vo.jpg https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/mm182/E-mag/IMG_20151122_200314_zpsavm7b47w.jpg |
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Posted: 5/5/2019 10:54:58 PM EST
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I like the tuxedo set but I put shrink tubing on them so they aren't so hard on the fingers. I have some Peterson picks too. The stuff on Amazon looked cheap but it's been a couple years since I checked them out. |
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Posted: 5/5/2019 11:09:06 PM EST
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If I had to.do it in would use something like this
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Posted: 5/7/2019 1:25:58 PM EST
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If I had to.do it in would use something like this https://cdn-tp3.mozu.com/24645-37138/cms/37138/files/3aefe9e6-1f71-457c-b917-82550da32b00?quality=50&_mzcb=_1556655581642 |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 2:53:39 PM EST
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If I had to.do it in would use something like this https://cdn-tp3.mozu.com/24645-37138/cms/37138/files/3aefe9e6-1f71-457c-b917-82550da32b00?quality=50&_mzcb=_1556655581642 
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Posted: 5/8/2019 2:43:10 PM EST
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If I had to.do it in would use something like this https://cdn-tp3.mozu.com/24645-37138/cms/37138/files/3aefe9e6-1f71-457c-b917-82550da32b00?quality=50&_mzcb=_1556655581642 
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Posted: 5/8/2019 2:43:50 PM EST
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We got a pro over in the WI hometown forum
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Posted: 5/8/2019 8:58:06 PM EST
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Posted: 5/8/2019 9:12:14 PM EST
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Also made this but haven't had much time to play with it.I did realize I have room for 2 more locks, maybe different brands.
 Attached FileThe locks aren't perfectly level with each other, but they both turn easily. |
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Posted: 5/8/2019 9:15:09 PM EST
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Also make this but haven't had much time to play with it.I did realize I have room for 2 more locks, maybe different brands. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102203/KS_JPG-939116.JPG The locks aren't perfectly level with each other, but they both turn easily. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 10:01:20 AM EST
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Makes a world of difference. It seems for me it is WAY easier if you can hold it in your hand. 
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Posted: 5/12/2019 11:22:07 AM EST
[#35]
Yes, and with the keyway pointed the "wrong" way or in a corner where its difficult to get at.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 11:32:25 AM EST
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I use a little set I bought about 20 years ago at a gun show. Think it was about $20.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 11:38:24 AM EST
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After watching a few pen testing talks on YouTube, I've been paying a lot more attention to alternate methods of entry rather than picking locks. The fun part is that my employer tends to change vendors a lot, so we have a ton of different systems at work for me to mess with. We also have tons of locks of all types, so I have a lot to mess with in that regard too. Of course the fact that I'm allowed literally everywhere in the plant makes this a nice perk.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 12:06:43 PM EST
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What locks do you have now? I'll dig through the collection and grab a couple. We'll get something figured out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yes I'm definitely interested in something like this. I'm bored of my locks to the point that I'm not playing with them anymore. I'm also to the point that I don't want to spend money on a bunch of new locks. It would be way cheaper to start just passing them around. So DFARM. Want to set up a little trade? We'll pass them onto the next arfcommer after we are done?  Attached FileI got through all these in less than 10 minutes Friday night. Even the master in the lower right that used to give me trouble opened easily. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 1:10:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DFARM Do you still want to do a trade? Take your choice or take them all, just offer up something fair in return. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/322675/rps20190512_120442_175_jpg-942768.JPG I got through all these in less than 10 minutes Friday night. Even the master in the lower right that used to give me trouble opened easily. The only downside is that I don't have keys for most of them. They all work and I've opened most of them, but I got them by picking locks that were going to be cut off because the keys were lost. I'll send the locks that I come up with to you in a small flat rate box, then you can add what you want and pass the box on to the next interested person. Just IM me your address and I'll get the box out sometime this week. Should we start a new thread to manage the pass around, or does the @poisontree care if we do that in here? |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 1:23:20 PM EST
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I'm sure that i have a couple of extra American 5200 series and pac-locks that I can send out. Maybe another one or two odd balls. The only downside is that I don't have keys for most of them. They all work and I've opened most of them, but I got them by picking locks that were going to be cut off because the keys were lost. I'll send the locks that I come up with to you in a small flat rate box, then you can add what you want and pass the box on to the next interested person. Just IM me your address and I'll get the box out sometime this week. Should we start a new thread to manage the pass around, or does the @poisontree care if we do that in here? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: @DFARM Do you still want to do a trade? Take your choice or take them all, just offer up something fair in return. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/322675/rps20190512_120442_175_jpg-942768.JPG I got through all these in less than 10 minutes Friday night. Even the master in the lower right that used to give me trouble opened easily. The only downside is that I don't have keys for most of them. They all work and I've opened most of them, but I got them by picking locks that were going to be cut off because the keys were lost. I'll send the locks that I come up with to you in a small flat rate box, then you can add what you want and pass the box on to the next interested person. Just IM me your address and I'll get the box out sometime this week. Should we start a new thread to manage the pass around, or does the @poisontree care if we do that in here? |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 1:24:11 PM EST
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I'm going to start keeping an eye out at work for random abandoned locks, I know we have a bunch. Most are shitty master locks, but we use Americans for LOTO, and I know there are lot of Abus as well.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 5:20:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK, sounds good. At that I'm just going to send the locks pictured to the first that calls dibs, on the condition that you pass them off to another ARFcommer in a reasonable amount of time. It'd be cool to end up with an ever evolving set of locks to pass around. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:08:36 PM EST
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Hell yea, looks like yall got a good thing going now. I would like to participate but with work and overtime I just cant do it right now.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:11:18 PM EST
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Do I NEED a top of the keyway tension wrench? Or are the ones that came with my Sparrow Tuxedo set sufficient? I'm wondering why they didn't include a single top of the keyway wrench, unless they are just a matter of preference.
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:36:55 PM EST
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Do I NEED a top of the keyway tension wrench? Or are the ones that came with my Sparrow Tuxedo set sufficient? I'm wondering why they didn't include a single top of the keyway wrench, unless they are just a matter of preference. The first top of keyway wrenches I got were the ones from sparrows that have a comb pick on the other end. I don't use them often since they are usually too thin for the keyway. I like a tight fitting wrench, especially when there are security pins as you have a lot of control when the wrench isn't flopping all over the place in the keyway. I ended up making my own wrench from a hitch pin clip that fits snug for the locks that I used to pick a lot. I'd just make them if you want to try it out. It'll fit your lock better and probably be cheaper to boot. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:39:54 PM EST
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Do I NEED a top of the keyway tension wrench? Or are the ones that came with my Sparrow Tuxedo set sufficient? I'm wondering why they didn't include a single top of the keyway wrench, unless they are just a matter of preference. I have both the heavy bar set and the flat bar knurled set from Sparrow and use them all. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 6:47:10 PM EST
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I would just wait until you've opened the ones that I send and add them to the box with yours. It'd be cool to end up with an ever evolving set of locks to pass around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: OK, sounds good. At that I'm just going to send the locks pictured to the first that calls dibs, on the condition that you pass them off to another ARFcommer in a reasonable amount of time. It'd be cool to end up with an ever evolving set of locks to pass around. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to send a guy starting out a bunch of hard locks though. |
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Posted: 5/12/2019 7:00:02 PM EST
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Hell yea, looks like yall got a good thing going now. I would like to participate but with work and overtime I just cant do it right now. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 12:47:43 AM EST
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I've been going through the garage and all our drawers looking for old padlocks now. I may just have to buy some. I kinda want to buy some of the acrylic lock sets to practice on as well. I just ordered a three set of tubular impressioning lock picks as well, which comes with one practice lock. So I'm going to need to find some more tubular locks to practice on as well.
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Posted: 5/14/2019 4:13:11 PM EST
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Had some supplies come in today so I thought I'd try fixing my master 410 loto that I had turned into a rattle. It was a bit more difficult than I thought it would be but I eventually managed to pull it off. I had chewed up a couple of springs when I disassembled it and the ones I ordered were too wide so I had to modify a lighter spring. Since I ordered the cheapest pinning tweezers off of ebay that's exactly what I got. I had to spend about 10 minutes modifying it to get it to be usable. I also put a piece of tape on the core to keep it from turning into a rattle again it should just lock up the core now but it'll be a much easier fix next time.
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