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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:24:30 PM EST
I was talking to someone today and was told that they are not allowed to have sharpened bayonets anymore. I have a Vietnam era M7 bayonet for my AR15 and it's razor sharp. Any truth to this?
As an added bonus to this thread, I just bought a M6 Bayonet for my M1A. It's new old stock, still sealed in it's original packing dated 1968. I'll post picks and see if it arrives dull or sharpened. Bayonet arrived today, made by Imperial and...it's SHARP!      
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:25:30 PM EST
[#1]
There were probably too many dipshits cutting themselves.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:27:10 PM EST
[#2]
I don't know about that, but they're probably forbidden from sharpening them themselves. You just KNOW some jackass will try to use a grinder of something.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:28:22 PM EST
[#3]
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I was talking to someone today and was told that they are not allowed to have sharpened bayonets anymore. I have a Vietnam era M7 bayonet for my AR15 and it's razor sharp. Any truth to this? |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:30:26 PM EST
[#4]
Our reserve unit never issued out bayonets. Our unit was deployed to Iraq in 2004-2005, and 2006-2007. I was there the first deployment ETSd before the second, not even sure Supply even had bayonets in inventory.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:32:34 PM EST
[#5]
They have been that way for a long time. I served in Vietnam and the bayonets we were issued weren’t sharpened; that is why they issued us K-Bars too.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:33:33 PM EST
[#6]
Ours weren't razor sharp but they weren't dull either. Felt like they were sharpened on a coarse grit belt sander.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:34:19 PM EST
[#7]
Those could hurt someone.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:35:16 PM EST
[#8]
Last month I ran across a thread on this in one of the knife forums I visit. The consensus was that a bayonet isn't supposed to be sharp because it's a stabbing weapon and you don't want a sharp blade to cut into and then get stuck between two ribs. There were stories of guys who said they sharped theirs and had them replaced and told not to do it again.
Who knows if this is the reason. ETA FWIW I have 3 bayonets, 1 is Polish, 1 is Bulgarian and 1 is Russian. They are all dull AF. The Polish and the Russian bayos are brand new never issued. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:35:57 PM EST
[#9]
Damn, I guess he was right. Doesn't make any sense, best weapons in the world but a sharp knife is too dangerous.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:36:41 PM EST
[#10]
Bayonets were not supposed to be sharp.
Stabby stabby. Not slashy slashy. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:37:02 PM EST
[#11]
A dull or damaged blade actually causes more damage as it leaves a ragged wound. A sharp blade leaves a cut so smooth it is easily stitched up with little scarring. I want my bayonet blade to have a damaged edge and just sharp enough to cut.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:37:43 PM EST
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:40:42 PM EST
[#13]
I always figured they were multi purpose, use as bayonet and as knife around camp or something.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:44:08 PM EST
[#14]
Could be like swords were back in the day. Issued dull and only sharpened in preparation for war.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:46:47 PM EST
[#15]
The two most dangerous things in the world are an unloaded gun and a dull knife...……….
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:48:56 PM EST
[#16]
Only time I used a bayonet or even had one was basic training.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:49:47 PM EST
[#17]
All I know was that the squad I was in during basic training are probably part of the reason.
On bayonet training day, we were on the opposite corner of the field from the drill sgt giving instructions. We paired off, made two opposing lines, and fixed bayonets. Right at the end of the training, a drill sgt finally noticed that we all had the scabbards lying in a pile with exposed blades. After a brief period of horror and shouting from the DS, we realized that the rest of the company was sparring with scabbards on. DS remembers that he had told us that if everyone in a group is wrong in the same way, that none of us were wrong. 
I will never forget how big his eyes got when he saw 10 or 12 privates swinging live bayonets at each other, but we all had eyepro and full canteens, so not sure what he was worried about... |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:49:48 PM EST
[#18]
Bayonets aren’t needed.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:53:14 PM EST
[#19]
bayonets are obsolete
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:54:35 PM EST
[#20]
We always took our bayonets to the field, and they were very sharp. I have a half-moon scar on my left pointer finger that proves it.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 5:56:31 PM EST
[#21]
Bayos don't need to be sharp. That said, thats the kind of thing that is at commander discretion. I am unaware of any AR that says I can't sharpen my bayonet...if I where ever issued one, ours stayed buried in the connex.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:03:57 PM EST
[#22]
I bought one of those European surplus M1 carbine bayonets before Christmas. Sliced my finger absentmindedly wiping dust off the spine. Sharp as a razor.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:04:21 PM EST
[#23]
Mine is sharp as fuck because all my knives are and it didn't take much to get it there. However, leaving it unsharpened sounds like a better idea.
Start a thread on how to dull a bayonet 
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:05:21 PM EST
[#24]
For most of military history bayonets were issued with dull blades.
Exceptions were when certain soldiers decided for whatever reason to sharpen them. As for the bayonet being obsolete line, well. One of my favorite jokes. "You must know you have a bad gun when it has a knife on the end." [I'm particularly imagining commie weapons which attached folding bayonets] "Here's a rifle that can kill a man at 200 yards, but just in case that doesn't work, ere is a little kniofe on the end to stab em with."
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:07:41 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
bayonets are obsolete |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:08:35 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From one who never needed one? |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:11:28 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ours weren't razor sharp but they weren't dull either. Felt like they were sharpened on a coarse grit belt sander. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:14:50 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Bayonets were not supposed to be sharp. Stabby stabby. Not slashy slashy. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:15:24 PM EST
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Army isn't training it anymore. I did bayo in basic 2008, I want to say 2009 they stopped |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:15:29 PM EST
[#30]
All those commandos out there that want a bayonet would only open MREs and carve dicks into trees with it, that is if they even knew how to sharpen a knife to begin with. The only benifit I see a bayonet being in today's deployment rotations is defending against angery feral pigs in a training environment.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:15:35 PM EST
[#31]
My unit was finally issued our long awaited pig stickers...
A week later they got Revoked, because a black guy and a white guy got in a knife fight in the back of a deuce-n-a-half....over an orange water cooler. That was pretty typical of the Army experience. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:17:21 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We always took our bayonets to the field, and they were very sharp. I have a half-moon scar on my left pointer finger that proves it. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:18:19 PM EST
[#33]
lol what.
Only retards sharpen the bayo. And sharp knifes get stuck in the ribs. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:18:52 PM EST
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The Civil War is a war where alot of people have this perception, that guys used bayonets all the time on charges. Shelby Foote, noted Civil War historian, says that bayonet charges even in the Civil war were very rare. And that was with muzzle loaders that were the standard issue.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:19:11 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All those commandos out there that want a bayonet would only open MREs and carve dicks into trees with it, that is if they even knew how to sharpen a knife to begin with. The only benifit I see a bayonet being in today's deployment rotations is defending against angery feral pigs in a training environment.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:22:50 PM EST
[#36]
I've never taken the bayonets out of our arms room, but I have inventoried them.
Both the M7s and M9s we have are sharp. You couldn't shave with them, but they are definitely sharp enough to cut through skin. Every single one looked new and unissued, most even had the manufacturer's oil or grease still on the blade. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:23:10 PM EST
[#37]
We had them and know how to use them as well. As for the army who knows. One of our levels of force on guard duty was to affix said bayonet.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:23:33 PM EST
[#38]
Being a tanker, I never even saw a bayonet .
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:23:59 PM EST
[#39]
They are very good at herding the huddle masses onto the cattle cars to send them to re education camps.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:26:11 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Being a tanker, I never even saw a bayonet .
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:30:04 PM EST
[#41]
Every time I was issued a shoulder weapon I was issued a bayonet; including shotguns while on guard duty.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:30:58 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Only time I used a bayonet or even had one was basic training. It's your funeral... |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:33:07 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
They are very good at herding the huddle masses onto the cattle cars to send them to re education camps. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:34:03 PM EST
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All those commandos out there that want a bayonet would only open MREs and carve dicks into trees with it, that is if they even knew how to sharpen a knife to begin with. The only benifit I see a bayonet being in today's deployment rotations is defending against angery feral pigs in a training environment. |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:34:14 PM EST
[#45]
I own an m7 and 1905 that are and came that way, an M9 that’s so so and a M5a1 that is dull as all hell. I think it’s just not a priority.
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:36:20 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me guess, you're drawing dick pics in the dirt with them? Twirling them around and throwing them at trees in boredom?
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:37:50 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
you don't have a shower bayonet? It's your funeral... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only time I used a bayonet or even had one was basic training. It's your funeral... |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:41:00 PM EST
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:42:39 PM EST
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Just a guess, you weren't a grunt, were you? |
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Posted: 3/18/2019 6:46:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just a guess, you weren't a grunt, were you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Let me guess, you're drawing dick pics in the dirt with them? Twirling them around and throwing them at trees in boredom? LOL |
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