Obviously many people do not understand what a cult really is.

"A cult is a structured group, most of whose members demonstrate unquestioned loyalty to a dynamic leader. The cult leader governs most, if not all, aspects of the lives of his or her followers, often insisting that they break all ties with the world outside of the cult."

People who support DJT as a Presidential Candidate are not in a Cult regardless of the TDS people's wishful and ill-intentioned opinions are. Jesus is not running for office so pragmatically we are left with what we evaluate as the least of the worst... frequently.

Thank you.

ProbTDS/Anti TDS is  something

wow...this thread is a prime indicator that the left lives here now

all the pussies that suffer from "Orange Man Bad Syndrome"


this country is fucked

@BWood point to where anyone in this thread has defended, or argued for any sort of leftist ideology, or criticized Trump for being too conservative. Give specific examples.

You sound trigged btw.

Usually statements such as these don't fly on a gun forum but cult of personality, blind loyalty, or whatever you want to call it keeps him popular.

Don't give up brother. We need to resist and educate others everyday, and maybe we can enlighten a few along the way. Maybe for them to be introspective and ask themselves to think beyond themselves and seek what is good and works best for the Country. There are problems and extremes to be found on both sides, but the Left is causing the most damage today. IMO

I sure wish the hell I could forget all about the Ukrainiacs.  They’re much worse than the Jihad Jabbers.

Haven't seen one yet so, no idea what you're talking about.

Every one I can think of has just been some ginned up fake news BS from "Conservative" Nuthouse.

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You say we shouldn't criticize Trump for one single thing like not pardoning the J6ers while he pardoned corrupt Democrats and drug dealers but, we should just totally throw DeSantis under the bus as a "piece of shit" because of something he may or may not be aware some underling did on social media.

Seems rational and totally not cult-like at all.

For the record, he should fire that person if he knows about what he did. Happy? Now your turn to admit Trump massively fucked up leaving the J6ers to rot in prison. Bet you can't.

Looting, destruction of property, theft, and interfering in an election process?

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Anyone who worships a politician is a fucking moron.

LOL

What a failure of a post.

You should feel bad.

So, ANTIFA/BLM or Jan 6 idiots?

Interfere ?,   you mean like the dems have done for the last X election cycles ? ,   except they could never find a dem Senator to sign off .    Gosar had Cruz sign ,  they weren't afraid .  Now tell us how Cruz doesn't know shit about anything .

Both idiots but I'm referencing the jan 6 idiots.

Yes, by trying to stop the certification of the election they were interfering

LoL

pop your head out of your lower posterior and tell us how you pardon someone when you have no idea who to pardon, and  for what.

They’re all shit

Bet DeSantis wished he had a following like that.

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That’s all I’ve been saying.

Pardon everybody ,  cop beaters , window breakers and ANTIFA .   Let them all go .   That would go over real well .

most of them are. you can show them trump giving fauci the medal at the end of his term, you can show them trump bragging yesterday about operation warp speed, you can show them trump telling kemp to shut down georgia and he was in charge not kemp. they'll yella tyou until they pass out from a lack of oxygen about how it never happened. They're just as bad as the left.

Donald Trump left them out to dry because he does not care one iota about his base, other than the fact that some of them donate, they all vote, and rally attendance strokes his ego.

Once you wrap your head around this, everything else will start to make sense.

Trump loves fast food and so do I.  I don't eat much of it these days because it's not good for me, but I do crave it all the time.  I loved when he had Clemson to the WH and he (spent his own money) to have a large spread of McDonald's, Chick-Fil-A, BK, Dominos, etc.  "Journalists" said he was "self-owning" and it was cheap for a billionaire or whatever but those kids seemed happy to have it.  Trump was right when he said 20-year olds wanted to eat that stuff.

Waiting for 3 For Fag to come in and post about the McChicken.  That's some cult shit if you ask me.

Perhaps you should follow your own advice and pop yours into a book or well sourced online piece.

This has been hashed and re-hashed in many threads but I'll repeat it for your benefit.

It's called a blanket pardon or amnesty, which the President has full power of. A Presidential pardon need not be 1) for a specific person, 2) for a specific crime, and 3) may be issued at any time after the crime has allegedly been committed and even before any legal proceedings have been started. The only limit is that they only apply to Federal crimes.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/how-the-president-grants-pardons-under-the-constitution

Types of Pardons

The Congressional Research Service’s January 2020 report on presidential pardon powers lists five types of clemency that fall under the president’s powers. A full pardon relieves a person of wrongdoing and restores any civil rights lost. Amnesty is similar to a full pardon and applies to groups or communities of people.

https://www.heritage.org/report/the-presidents-broad-power-pardon-and-commute

The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity…. A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender…so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President's discretion.

And yes, if Trump had given a blanket pardon/amnesty to all the J6ers, some guilty criminals would indeed go free.

“The law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer.”

Arfcom full of RINOs? Dems? Gonna keep voting the same way for the same non-results? That's the definition of insanity.  
MAGA ain't a cult, it's a return to normalcy, a rejection of wokeness, a good economy, and a strong military. Politicians suck, which is why it was awesome to have a non-politician for once, but it was the ideals, the common goals, not the man, that made him popular.   Personally I'm not fond of his speaking style;  while he's sometimes funny, he's often cringe too. But I'll take him over any Dem or RINO any day.

"The law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer."

Congratulations!! Spoken like a TRUE Trump Cultist!

As you yourself phrased it Maybe YOU should pull your head out of your "lower posterior"    

You've been schooled on this in other threads BEFORE - Yet Trump Simps keep claiming "I don't know how Trump could have pardoned those January 6th people".

This has been discussed over and over.  Trump COULD have pardoned those January 6th people who "deserved" it, while punishing the "Violent Antifas" / "Rioting 'Patriots' " who "deserved" it.

How you ask?   As has been explained  before again and again and yet again

Ford pardoned Nixon for any & all offenses committed over a date range and it did it BEFORE Nixon had any charges filed against him.

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/speeches/740061.asp

Carter pardoned all Draft Dodgers (named & unnamed) for their offenses over a date range AND specifically EXCLUDED those who had committed Violence.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/11967.html

Trump COULD have easily issued something like this.

... THEREFORE, I, Donald J Trump, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto all parties, named or unnamed, present at the protest at the United States Capital in Washington D.C. on January 20th, 2021 from 9am to 9pm for all offenses against the United States which that person has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period of January 20, 2021. This pardon shall EXCLUDE any & all persons, named or unnamed, who committed acts of violence at the United States Capital in Washington D.C. on January 20th, 2021.

Signed Donald J. Trump.

The "lost tourists" (non-violent people inside the Capital) get pardons

The "Violent" rioters get to go court & hopefully a long time in Federal Prison.

Trump could have PARDONED those people -  if only he had actually valued them anywhere near where he did himself.

The January 6th people clearly committed "crimes" (on Trump's behalf) on January 6th 2021 - some big crimes of violence & many small crimes like tresspassing.

Trump had until Noon on January 20th 2021 to pardon them - but instead Trump issued pardons to Drug Dealers & Fraudsters - several times AFTER January 6th.

Just face the facts & admit it - Trump COULD have pardoned any of the January 6th people, (named or unnamed) for crimes (specified or unspecified) at the Capital on January 20th of 2021 AND Trump could have placed the exception retaining prosecution for those committing "Crimes of Violence" that day.  Protect the innocent & punish the bad.

But Trump CHOSE not too.   Anyone who cares about MAGA needs to remember when Trump had to choose between his people & himself - Trump said "FUCK THEM" and instead chose himself.

If the cruise ship strikes a reef & starts sinking, the Captain who plotted the course that drove the ship upon the rocks better not be hoping in the lifeboat to sail away and leave everyone else to drown.

Trump jetted on January 20th off to sunny Florida with ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS of "stop the steal" 'donations' - while leaving his loyal followers to hang while Trump ran off.  Since January 20th, Trump hasn't spent a CENT to help ANY of the January 6th people. Not for bail. Not for Legal Council. Not in Support for their families financial needs.  He just ran off and left them to their fate.  WHAT a miserable Chick Shit - and YOU & your fellow Trump Suckers want to put THAT miserable shitbag back into the Oval Office Again...

Bigger_Hammer

Its touching to see that 3 of the biggest anti Trumpers on Arfcom are concerned for the very people they constantly deride and call cultists. The never Trumpers don't give a shit about Trump supporters in jail, they laughed and called them dumbasses and now cry crocodile tears for them sitting in jail.
Talk about disingenuous blowhards.

Do you really expect people to read all of that  boomer tirade?

They may be misguided idiots but that doesn't mean they deserve to be political prisoners badly mistreated by the crushing Leviathan state, or ignored by Trump in favor of the likes of Rod Blagojevich or Kodak Black.

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Obviously not the MAGAbots since readings for fags and ya’ll keep repeating the same debunked BS.

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I mean, no.

There is a distinct subset here that I don’t expect read much of anything of substance.

Its touching to see that 3 of the biggest Trump Suckers on Arfcom are Not concerned for the very people they claim to support. The Trump Suckers clearly don't give a shit about Trump supporters in jail, they cry tears about how Trump was more powerless and/or stupid than Gerald Ford or Jimmy Carter.   And Trump Cultists duck the Big Question - Trump called "his people" to come to his aid for January 6th at the US Capital - and then Trump jetted off with a hundred million dollars leaving his own most loyal supporters to their fate - Trump ran off to same himself.  What kind of a Chickenshit "leader" does that to "his people"?  And they want this guy back as their "Leader"... Talk about disingenuous blowhards.

Have you ever thought of loyalty from the top down? Clearly that doesn't exist in Trump World.  It's all about what is BEST for TRUMP.  

One of my favorite quotes is by General George S. Patton, Jr., he captured the need of loyalty to flow not only from the bottom to the top, but from the top down as well when he states:

"There's a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and is much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates."

What's funniest is that the Biggest Trump Cult Supporters are the True "Q Crewe" like this poster who clearly didn't learn that loyalty is a two way bond.  The loony Q-Crew really seriously believe the fantasy & guzzle that Q-laide that Trump will magically "drain the swamp", "arrest the traitors", and restore America to a golden age - all in just a few months with "Trump Magic".  (of course Trump didn't do any of that in his first 4 years - When did Trump ever get around to locking up Crooked Hillary?



Bigger_Hammer

@gwitness

Any thoughts on your newfound knowledge on the breadth and depth of the power of the Presidential pardon and Trump's lack of utilization of it for the J6ers?

You forgot demonic.

Bigger_Hammer

What's worse, Orange Man Bad and Mean Tweets, or the cult of Brandon?

What's worse, AIDS or cancer?

As you can see clearly in the image, one cult will literally give you the AIDS.

There is nothing that says Republicans have to accept a Terrible General Election Candidate for OUR ballot in 2024.

If the Democrats want to run a old idiot with lots of legal issues as their candidate in 2024 - nothing says Republicans have do the same.  

Bigger_Hammer

And the other is arguably a cancer upon Constitutional Conservatism, so where's that leave us?

did he actually do this? or was it a bad idea that got smothered?