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Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:46:47 AM EST
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Oh so now THIS is your line in the sand?   When it was bump stocks, not only did you not care, you made thinly veiled threats against those who were against further encroachments upon our 2A rights while you tacitly supported further restrictions.

My position on bumpstocks was the same as the NRA attorneys and David Kopel and Stephen Halbrook.

Trump went further with his lobbying for age restrictions and universal background checks and was humiliated.

Regardless of past differences this new Tweet is Trump A-B testing on the gun rights issue.

Pushing back hard is the only right answer.
I'm going to go out on a limb with a wild guess........

You own a 3D printer.
6 axis CNC and an 07 FFL.
You don't say!?

(I knew that but forgot)
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:47:14 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:48:14 AM EST
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This is why 8 States are now suing the Trump Administration.

I would love to see Texas AG Paxton put out a Twit saying, "You can have our 3D printer drawings from our cold dead printers".
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:49:21 AM EST
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This still doesn't fix what he stated in the original tweet and it's rather disappointing.
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He backed the fuck up when people corrected him for talking out of his ass about something he doesn’t understand.

It’s a lot better than Trump, when called out for ignorance and stupidity on guns, chooses to double down on gun control.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:50:22 AM EST
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in before the quisling squad tells us he meant something else or this is a trick and Trump's really pro 2a
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Clearly hes talking about Glocks
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:53:36 AM EST
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I'm going to go out on a limb with a wild guess........

You own a 3D printer.
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Oh so now THIS is your line in the sand?   When it was bump stocks, not only did you not care, you made thinly veiled threats against those who were against further encroachments upon our 2A rights while you tacitly supported further restrictions.

My position on bumpstocks was the same as the NRA attorneys and David Kopel and Stephen Halbrook.

Trump went further with his lobbying for age restrictions and universal background checks and was humiliated.

Regardless of past differences this new Tweet is Trump A-B testing on the gun rights issue.

Pushing back hard is the only right answer.
I'm going to go out on a limb with a wild guess........

You own a 3D printer.
Denzel-"BOOM"
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:54:40 AM EST
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Fuck James Woods
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:54:48 AM EST
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Here is a principle for you, MIND YOUR CANADIAN BUSINESS.  Foreigners meddling in our affairs and trying to sway opinions kinda pisses me off.

YOU ARE A FOREIGNER.
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It's not personal -- it's only business.

If Cruz or Paul or Santorum had won and said this exact same thing, I'd try to crucify them as well.

Absolutely no offense intended but the reason why it irritates you when I'm critical of the President is because you are heavily invested in the man, Donald Trump, while I am heavily invested in the principles of personal freedom and personal responsibility.

The man himself, or really any man, is essentially meaningless -- ONLY principles matter at this point.  
Here is a principle for you, MIND YOUR CANADIAN BUSINESS.  Foreigners meddling in our affairs and trying to sway opinions kinda pisses me off.

YOU ARE A FOREIGNER.
WORDZ !!!!!

I bet the Canadian has a nice full-size portrait of the queen in his living room just to remind him that he is a subject of the crown and not citizens like us Americans!!
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:55:06 AM EST
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We have to have a winning attitude. The left wants us to quit and infighting isn't a successful approach towards winning. We rally our troops by rationally, calmly and clearly explaining or rather Nolo and our lawyers eloquently laying out the case and then we kick their ass when, where and how we need to. Our side is rational, for the most part, so reason with James Woods or POTUS or via DJT Jr. if we have to and then we're not hanging one by one. Leftists import their voters because they want to overwhelm by superior numbers. Unnecessarily clawing at each other makes them happy because they'd prefer to take us down state by state, person by person. Don't play into their hands. We're winning. We will win
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:55:21 AM EST
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Trump needs to back off guns.  He is winning at so many other things.  I would  hate for him to royally SCREW UP AGAIN.  He cost Florida last time.

DON'T BE  A DICK DONALD.
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He stopped a push for a nationwide bumpstock ban. Rick Scott is the problem.

You don't get his method of getting around liberal tyranny. He out thought them....and you.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:55:22 AM EST
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I dont see how this can be considered any different than the AR15 dimensional schematics and CAD designs that have been out in the wild for decades. As far as I see it, all they've done is change the format of the distributable to a different platform.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:55:22 AM EST
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He should know better.
Woods is fucking with them is how I read it.
I hope you're right, I really do.
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Stop being blindly optimistic. He wasn't fucking with them. Woods doesn't know shit about gun laws and believes in handgun registration. He's a fucking Hollywood actor.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:55:51 AM EST
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So unless you believe every child in america MUST be given a fully auto M4 with 10,000 rounds of ammunition per month for training you are anti-gun, anti-2nd amendment and no different than the Brady Bunch.

a bunch of anti-gun assholes on GD, I tell you.
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I wish he represented the 2nd Amendment.
So unless you believe every child in america MUST be given a fully auto M4 with 10,000 rounds of ammunition per month for training you are anti-gun, anti-2nd amendment and no different than the Brady Bunch.

a bunch of anti-gun assholes on GD, I tell you.
No, there is a lotta ground in between.  We are not far off in thinking.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:57:18 AM EST
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He is not folding. He has been given the nod by that hallowed American institution, the NRA, once again. Just like he got the nod on bump stocks and age restrictions in Florida.

Guess it's time to give the NRA more money.  That will fix things.

Bet Feinstein is orgasming again.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:57:48 AM EST
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Trump knows fuck all about guns.

If my president goes to the NRA for advice about guns, the problem isn't the president.
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Oh, the problem is ABSOLUTELY the president. He's got The Constitution. He's got a deparment of his government that has people with expertise in firearms and firearms laws. He's got all sorts of legal advisors on staff.

Why in the fuck is he talking to the NRA?

He has neither the knowledge to address the subject himself, nor the good judgement to seek out the correct references and advisors with which to educate himself.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:58:45 AM EST
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Are we okay to criticize this? ...or do we need to make excuses for his gun control talk like we did for bump stocks, age limits and due process?
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:59:15 AM EST
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Perhaps.

But you have to give me another explanation on why more people don't care about 3D printed guns and bump stocks if my assessment is wrong.
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I think I see way more people who care than you do. The internet is fucking ablaze with Trump hate every time he says some dumb shit about guns.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:59:34 AM EST
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Jesus, for everything brilliant he does, he falls for the biggest nothingburgers when it comes to firearms.
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Dismantling one of our most basic constitutional rights is not a nothingburger.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:59:35 AM EST
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He stopped a push for a nationwide bumpstock ban. Rick Scott is the problem.

You don't get his method of getting around liberal tyranny. He out thought them....and you.
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Trump needs to back off guns.  He is winning at so many other things.  I would  hate for him to royally SCREW UP AGAIN.  He cost Florida last time.

DON'T BE  A DICK DONALD.
He stopped a push for a nationwide bumpstock ban. Rick Scott is the problem.

You don't get his method of getting around liberal tyranny. He out thought them....and you.
This is one way to look at it.  I don't expect to get anywhere with you in debate.  Enjoy...
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:03:46 PM EST
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So unless you believe every child in america MUST be given a fully auto M4 with 10,000 rounds of ammunition per month for training you are anti-gun
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I normally like and agree with your posts, but you're about 2 seconds away from sounding like some shit I'd expect to read on Vox. Go ahead and throw in a DO YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO NUKES!?!?!? for good measure
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:03:53 PM EST
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Fuck James Woods
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The key part of his sarcastic tweet was the last line about registering voters...

Woods is a troll of the highest order and he lives to knot-up the panties of Liberals.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:05:00 PM EST
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WORDZ !!!!!

I bet the Canadian has a nice full-size portrait of the queen in his living room just to remind him that he is a subject of the crown and not citizens like us Americans!!
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It's not personal -- it's only business.

If Cruz or Paul or Santorum had won and said this exact same thing, I'd try to crucify them as well.

Absolutely no offense intended but the reason why it irritates you when I'm critical of the President is because you are heavily invested in the man, Donald Trump, while I am heavily invested in the principles of personal freedom and personal responsibility.

The man himself, or really any man, is essentially meaningless -- ONLY principles matter at this point.  
Here is a principle for you, MIND YOUR CANADIAN BUSINESS.  Foreigners meddling in our affairs and trying to sway opinions kinda pisses me off.

YOU ARE A FOREIGNER.
WORDZ !!!!!

I bet the Canadian has a nice full-size portrait of the queen in his living room just to remind him that he is a subject of the crown and not citizens like us Americans!!
Yeah! Flame a pro-gun compatriot who just happens to live in another country! Screw that guy!

I suppose it’s easier than getting mad at your “god emperor” who has no clothes...

Whatever salves your conscience.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:05:46 PM EST
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Oh, the problem is ABSOLUTELY the president. He's got The Constitution. He's got a deparment of his government that has people with expertise in firearms and firearms laws. He's got all sorts of legal advisors on staff.

Why in the fuck is he talking to the NRA?

He has neither the knowledge to address the subject himself, nor the good judgement to seek out the correct references and advisors with which to educate himself.
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Trump knows fuck all about guns.

If my president goes to the NRA for advice about guns, the problem isn't the president.
Oh, the problem is ABSOLUTELY the president. He's got The Constitution. He's got a deparment of his government that has people with expertise in firearms and firearms laws. He's got all sorts of legal advisors on staff.

Why in the fuck is he talking to the NRA?

He has neither the knowledge to address the subject himself, nor the good judgement to seek out the correct references and advisors with which to educate himself.
Complicated question and answer.

I would suggest it includes parts or all the following.  3 letter agencies stocked with Obama lovers, still cleaning house.  3 letter agencies don't bring votes, the NRA actually does.  The NRA is the oldest most powerful firearms lobby there is.  It would SEEM(to a non firearms person) that they would have the best interest in gun rights at heart.

We can debate the last reason another time.   But where else is gonna look for 2a advice?  Don JR was in the middle of a divorce.  Yea the NRA is a pretty plausible answer.

Short of him becoming a Constitutional and historical scholar, I think listening to them was his best option when it came down to it(since maybe he didn't know enough about the issue).
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:08:15 PM EST
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My position on bumpstocks was the same as the NRA attorneys and David Kopel and Stephen Halbrook.

Trump went further with his lobbying for age restrictions and universal background checks and was humiliated.

Regardless of past differences this new Tweet is Trump A-B testing on the gun rights issue.

Pushing back hard is the only right answer.
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My position on bumpstocks was the same as the NRA attorneys and David Kopel and Stephen Halbrook.

Trump went further with his lobbying for age restrictions and universal background checks and was humiliated.

Regardless of past differences this new Tweet is Trump A-B testing on the gun rights issue.

Pushing back hard is the only right answer.
Your position on bumpstocks is the same as those held by Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer.

If you are going to pull an appeal to authority you need to go all the way.

As for David Kopel, here's his position on the matter:
KOPEL: I think it depends on, from event to event. I think, in this case, the issue of bump stocks, which can -- it is allegedly seems to be true, make a semi-automatic firearm fire as fast as automatic, probably should be regulated at same level as a machine gun. You should have to go through that same federal process to purchase one.
Any person who thinks what is in the quote above either has NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT or something much, much worse.

I've read a lot from Kopel and from what I can tell, he doesn't know what a bump stock is or how a bump stock works.  Of course that doesn't matter because supports the NFA structure as it exists and existing regulations on machine guns (he called for legislation adding bump stocks to the NFA registry and offering a limited tax free amnesty here).

You openly support a Federal executive agency altering federal statute that has the potential to render all or some of your fire arms as contraband and you support that.   But some some tweets about 3D printed guns is what gets you in a fighting mood?

Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:09:43 PM EST
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Why am I not surprised?

Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:10:12 PM EST
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He is not folding. He has been given the nod by that hallowed American institution, the NRA, once again. Just like he got the nod on bump stocks and age restrictions in Florida.

Guess it's time to give the NRA more money.  That will fix things.

Bet Feinstein is orgasming again.
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In before he folds.  
He is not folding. He has been given the nod by that hallowed American institution, the NRA, once again. Just like he got the nod on bump stocks and age restrictions in Florida.

Guess it's time to give the NRA more money.  That will fix things.

Bet Feinstein is orgasming again.
Meh, trump sent the tweet, not the NRA. The hard to swallow pill for the ‘support trump no matter what’ camp is that he is no friend of the RKBA. Why trust a man that has to be told what to say?

For the record I’m no hard liner for trump or the NRA.  They have both done some good as well as some bad. Quit pretending the fuckers walk on water and call them on their shit when they spew it.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:13:05 PM EST
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The NRA doesn't pass laws.
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In before Wayne sells us down the river...again.
The NRA doesn't pass laws.
No, but Wayne damn sure tells Trump he has not use for something gun related, Trump tweets that he got Wayne's OK and that starts the cascade to the RINOs and Democrats that it is OK to ram another rock in the firearms dam.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:13:23 PM EST
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The key part of his sarcastic tweet was the last line about registering voters...

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Ah, I thought the key part was where he said "Serial number registered handguns protect society and protect responsible gun owners and @NRA members like myself. I personally believe [in] registering handguns"

I understand he backed down but I really dont give a shit. He tweeted that all guns should be serialized and registered. IDGAF what he really meant in terms of 4D space chess
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:17:12 PM EST
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Sad fact is theres just not many freedom lovers left in this country. The urbanization dillutes the spirit, dense areas create a demand for government intervention.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:28:34 PM EST
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For a guiy who ran on a Pro 2nd ticket, he sure seems anti gun...
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I've read the company is called "Defense Distributed" who recently won in Federal Court under First Amendment grounds to put out the blueprint plans.  These DemTard states lost in court and now they want Trump to end this by decree?  LoL. That is not going to happen.   It don't make much sense.
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The key part of his sarcastic tweet was the last line about registering voters...

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If it were sarcasm, there wouldn't be the backpedaling follow up tweets...
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For a guiy who ran on a Pro 2nd ticket, he sure seems anti gun...
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Newsflash, candidates will say anything to garner support come election time.
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If it were sarcasm, there wouldn't be the backpedaling follow up tweets...
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Hey, it's hard to catch sarcasm on the interwebz...
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:48:25 PM EST
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All they have to do is VPN or tor around it.
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Wait, you mean there are ways to spoof your location to appear elsewhere?
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 12:50:58 PM EST
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I've read the company is called "Defense Distributed" who recently won in Federal Court under First Amendment grounds to put out the blueprint plans.  These DemTard states lost in court and now they want Trump to end this by decree?  LoL. That is not going to happen.   It don't make much sense.
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The left thinks they can turn out their base to vote this way. I suspect it will burnout their blue wave but either way be sure to vote
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I'm sure this will end well for us......
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He's working hard not to get my vote in 2020...
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Does site staff knowing that you're trollololololololing?
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 1:02:14 PM EST
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Of course it doesn't make sense to a fucking life-long Democrat billionaire from NYC that has #NYValues.

BETACuck.  
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One day I will rejoice in your banning.
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Why aren't we the mainstream!!??
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I support the 2a while you defend Trump's "reasonable restrictions."

You'd love NY, you'd get on the gun club board right away ranting about how no one needs a bumpstock or plastic gun. "But But lawyer lawyer New York New York"

You've shown you'll go along with whatever gun control Trump tweets about.
Trump represents the viewpoint of the vast majority of gun owners.

To most gun owners, they know fuck all about 80% lowers and 3d printing.

What kind of raving narcissist thinks his personal opinion about anything represents everyone?

Wait, I know. A new york lawyer.

this is a fringe of the gun rights argument.

Again, for the flightless.

We have a president who when confronted with a question on gun rights, asks the NRA.

And, again for the flightless, if it wasn't the same group bashing Trump before the election who are suddenly pearl clutching over absolutely nothing at this point, I would take them more seriously.

As it is now, it appears that the same top_men are desperate to be right about something, anything!, and failing, yet again, miserably.
Why aren't we the mainstream!!??
Good thing we live in a country where the basic laws are based on rights of the individual and not the majority. So fuck off with the "we are the fringe minority" bullshit.
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He hopes the rest of the country's gun laws look like NY's so he can feel better.

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Ermmm....no....

All we did was look up at the writing on the wall while you guys were chanting MAGA and touting his '2A coalition.'
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It's a Done Deal™

And no bumpystock things or kids under 21 owning firearms.
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What gun or gun related items were banned by a federal agency while Obama was President?
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Since Trump has been in office, what gun and or gun related items has been banned by what federal agency?

What law has been passed by Congress that bans anything since Trump has been in office. (for that matter when FBHO was in office)
What gun or gun related items were banned by a federal agency while Obama was President?
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Here's what will happen: Not much, but the door is open even wider for further "conversation" just like last time.  rinse and repeat.
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Winner winner chicken dinner!!1!

It's the sentiment that matters here.

Pretty soon we're going to start getting things like: "See!  The President is the worlds most bigly conservative  and even he supports some gun control!!1!"

That's a pretty shitty trap to set for yourself.  
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Ermmm....no....

All we did was look up at the writing on the wall while you guys were chanting MAGA and touting his '2A coalition.'
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He hopes the rest of the country's gun laws look like NY's so he can feel better.

Schadenfraude is an ugly emotion.
Ermmm....no....

All we did was look up at the writing on the wall while you guys were chanting MAGA and touting his '2A coalition.'
The only other option was Hillary. I don't even want to hear the garbage that any republican would have beat her due to running a lousy campaign. Trump rattled her campaign, big time. The simple truth is she didn't know how to handle his style. NOBODY knew how to handle his style. Trump's campaign was unprecedented.
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What a bunch of fucking bullshit. Bunch of luddites scared of new technology. And now Trump and the Republicans are gonna Fudd it up.

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I've already donated to the defense distributed guy once, gotta do it again I see.
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Since Trump has been in office, what gun and or gun related items has been banned by what federal agency?

What law has been passed by Congress that bans anything since Trump has been in office. (for that matter when FBHO was in office)
What gun or gun related items were banned by a federal agency while Obama was President?
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ATTEMPTED ban on M855 as well but didn't get that one done.
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