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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:19:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only other option was Hillary. I don't even want to hear the garbage that any republican would have beat her due to running a lousy campaign. Trump rattled her campaign, big time. The simple truth is she didn't know how to handle his style. NOBODY knew how to handle his style. Trump's campaign was unprecedented. You might not want to hear it but it's fucking true ANY of the candidates would have beat HRC. You had your pick of the litter and you collectively decided to quadruple down on the lifelong Democrat from NYC. ...Because reasons! |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A democrat troll arguing about Trump being a gun banner is kinda funny You pro gun control and me still not buying into MAGA. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:20:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, but don't you have your own administration to deal with? You know, that Muslim thing going on? Canada is a lost cause. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:22:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In that case, you dont know what a strawman is my dude. I could hit you with a strawman of my own and ask you where in the constitution does the government have the authority to purchase and provide civilans with arms and ammo, but I'm really not interested in having this discussion. You're being silly and you know it. To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; A law requiring children to be trained in the use of firearms for future service in the militia would fall under the "raise and support Armies" clause. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:23:56 PM EDT
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What gun or gun related items were banned by a federal agency while Obama was President? 
ETA: This also seriously hurt suppressor manufacturers. Their are still folks waiting for the HPA to pass before they buy a can. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:26:10 PM EDT
[#6]
If he is looking down the barrel, I hope it is unloaded.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:28:29 PM EDT
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Article I, Section 8, Clause 12 To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; A law requiring children to be trained in the use of firearms for future service in the militia would fall under the "raise and support Armies" clause. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: In that case, you dont know what a strawman is my dude. I could hit you with a strawman of my own and ask you where in the constitution does the government have the authority to purchase and provide civilans with arms and ammo, but I'm really not interested in having this discussion. You're being silly and you know it. To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; A law requiring children to be trained in the use of firearms for future service in the militia would fall under the "raise and support Armies" clause. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:28:35 PM EDT
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My administration isn't worth changing. Canada is a lost cause. 
Bizarro world. I was against him a long time ago. I couldn't believe him. I recanted. I publicly took my medicine. Accepted my flogging. And I admitted this guy is really trying to change things. I acknowledge he ain't the best on 2A, by the way do yall even have one of those? If you can't see the overall good in what he is doing, you live to far away. YOU ARE WRONG to come in here and constantly trash him. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:31:38 PM EDT
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Trump lost me over the whole bump stock thing. He’s a real piece of shit. I He gets booted out of office. He’s a phony a fake a fraud and a A liar. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better buy a bumpstock soon. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But.... the shall not be infringed part of this isn’t clear and could use some additional legislation to clear it up. LMAO A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed Either you believe in infringement or you don't. I assume you to be an absolutionist and therefore any restriction to be the sign of an "anti-gunner" Your support for Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton notwithstanding for the purposes of this discussion. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:36:05 PM EDT
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Remember, folks, the NRA isn't a gun rights advocacy group. They are a gun industry lobbying group.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:38:13 PM EDT
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Remember, folks, the NRA isn't a gun rights advocacy group. They are a gun industry lobbying group. NSSF is the gun industry lobby. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:40:00 PM EDT
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I'm a big Trump supporter. But pursuing this seriously would be a mistake on a number of levels. I'd still vote for him over any Democrat they put up, but I sure won't be as enthusiastic about my support.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:43:58 PM EDT
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Without reading, I'm going to predict that a half dozen trumpsuckers have already tried to explain how this is just strategery and he didn't really mean it. At least two extra special trumpsuckers unironically attempted to convince us that 3D printed find should be banned. Because background checks.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:45:16 PM EDT
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I'm a big Trump supporter. But pursuing this seriously would be a mistake on a number of levels. I'd still vote for him over any Democrat they put up, but I sure won't be as enthusiastic about my support. He can't ban 3D printers or CNC machines. If they are going to ban lines of code then that is a 1st amendment intrusion as well as practically impossible. You can watch videos on youtube on how to make home made explosives. Ammunition restrictions for under 18 render it a moot point anyway. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:46:06 PM EDT
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No. NSSF is the gun industry lobby. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Remember, folks, the NRA isn't a gun rights advocacy group. They are a gun industry lobbying group. NSSF is the gun industry lobby. Bless your heart. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:48:47 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/1YX0JzQ.jpg Wonder what the NRA said to him? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/31/trump-takes-aim-at-3d-printed-guns-doesnt-seem-to-make-much-sense.html |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He does not seem to realize, nobody is selling them to the public they are home made no better no worse than what a lot of us already do with lowers and some pistols. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:50:59 PM EDT
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So you believe that machine guns should be sold to children? Either you believe in infringement or you don't. I assume you to be an absolutionist and therefore any restriction to be the sign of an "anti-gunner" Your support for Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton notwithstanding for the purposes of this discussion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: But.... the shall not be infringed part of this isn’t clear and could use some additional legislation to clear it up. LMAO A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed Either you believe in infringement or you don't. I assume you to be an absolutionist and therefore any restriction to be the sign of an "anti-gunner" Your support for Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton notwithstanding for the purposes of this discussion. You will not find ANYWHERE where my stance was otherwise. Feel free to look through my posts and while your at it please look for comments supporting Hillary as well. I’m sure that if we look back through your posts we will find more than a few that are contrarian to your present stance. Just one “shall not be infringed” or “Molon Labe” and your position becomes less defendable and a whole lot more obtuse. And since your so obsessed with this arming children gotcha. My minor child is already listed as a member of my trust which contains several machine guns and other class three fun. But I guess I’m a little bit of a hypocrite because I didn’t add her till she was about two. One the plus side I didn’t wait for the socialist MG handout to arm my preschooler.I know that you just think I’m a leftist troll but that’s just because your so blinded by partisan BS that you either can’t or won’t see that not everyone falls neatly into one or the other neat tidy little groups that your mindset thinks that everyone fits in. In your world everything is black and white but in reality it’s 95% grey zone. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:52:18 PM EDT
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i like trump on a hell of lot of things even though he is piss poor about gun issues. yeah he hasnt signed any antigun law yet.but he hasnt signed any law that specifically grants more freedom for the RKBA, he gives some noncommittal speeches at the NRA meeting every year and ay slips service about the 2nd amendment but hasnt done anything about getting rid of even simple things like reversing obamas EOs.
He doesnt seem to actively trying to pass more gun laws in practice even if he seems to signal it in words but I dont know how much of that is just cause a republican congress hasnt passed anything and sent it to him I guess if the demshits take control of congress at some point and start sending him some gun law bills we will find out just how much of a champion of the RKBA he is or if it was all bullshit campaign speeches. truth is love trump or hate him I doubt seriously he really cares about guns and gun rights much. which is fine as long as he isnt restricting it but this playing word games and signaling he would be willing and "something should be done" does piss me off, I dont care what kind of bullshit political games he is supposedly playin |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:53:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Must be why he is educating himself on the issue. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:54:16 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My stance is unchanged. I believe that the 2A says what it means and means exactly what it says as it is written. You will not find ANYWHERE where my stance was otherwise. Feel free to look through my posts and while your at it please look for comments supporting Hillary as well. I’m sure that if we look back through your posts we will find more than a few that are contrarian to your present stance. Just one “shall not be infringed” or “Molon Labe” and your position becomes less defendable and a whole lot more obtuse. And since your so obsessed with this arming children gotcha. My minor child is already listed as a member of my trust which contains several machine guns and other class three fun. But I guess I’m a little bit of a hypocrite because I didn’t add her till she was about two. One the plus side I didn’t wait for the socialist MG handout to arm my preschooler.I know that you just think I’m a leftist troll but that’s just because your so blinded by partisan BS that you either can’t or won’t see that not everyone falls neatly into one or the other neat tidy little groups that your mindset thinks that everyone fits in. In your world everything is black and white but in reality it’s 95% grey zone. So while you support Hillary Clinton et al, you are an absolutist when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and believe that guns should be available to anyone at anytime regardless their criminal past or age. So why is this your sword to fall on. Certainly background checks and FFLs are a much more onerous intrusion on the 2nd Amendment. Why do you crawl out of your hole now? Why aren't you taking to the streets to demand the repeal of all laws pertaining to the 2nd. 3d printed guns seems to be a minor point to an absolutist such as yourself. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:55:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would hope so, Although I stand behind him with my support because he is doing a lot of good stuff, there is a bunch of stuff he had very limited knowledge of. Only in GD land is the NRA a bunch of gun banners in cahoots with Diane Feinstein. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:56:23 PM EDT
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Only in the deluded think tank that is GD can this be interpreted as anything other than anti 2a. I know. I know. You’re sorry my girl lost. I’m sorry we all lost. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:56:59 PM EDT
[#26]
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Your position on bumpstocks is the same as those held by Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer. If you are going to pull an appeal to authority you need to go all the way. As for David Kopel, here's his position on the matter: Any person who thinks what is in the quote above either has NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT or something much, much worse. I've read a lot from Kopel and from what I can tell, he doesn't know what a bump stock is or how a bump stock works. Of course that doesn't matter because supports the NFA structure as it exists and existing regulations on machine guns (he called for legislation adding bump stocks to the NFA registry and offering a limited tax free amnesty here). You openly support a Federal executive agency altering federal statute that has the potential to render all or some of your fire arms as contraband and you support that. But some some tweets about 3D printed guns is what gets you in a fighting mood?  |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:58:13 PM EDT
[#27]
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I don’t get trump sometimes. Why in the world would you want to piss off the core of your base. It's outside of his experience and frame of reference. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 3:59:52 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think he realizes that this is an issue. It's outside of his experience and frame of reference. Same with bump stocks. good or bad, thats how it is. this is more a 1st amendment issue than a 2nd amendment issue. once he learns that home made guns can't be sold legally already, there really isn't much he can do. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:00:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The best I can realistically hope for in a president is that if he has a question on guns, he asks the NRA. thats about as good as it gets. Only in GD land is the NRA a bunch of gun banners in cahoots with Diane Feinstein. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:00:04 PM EDT
[#30]
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If anybody post a meme of Sherman burning anything, I will report it.  |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:02:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Without reading, I'm going to predict that a half dozen trumpsuckers have already tried to explain how this is just strategery and he didn't really mean it. At least two extra special trumpsuckers unironically attempted to convince us that 3D printed find should be banned. Because background checks. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:02:51 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The best I can realistically hope for in a president is that if he has a question on guns, he asks the NRA. thats about as good as it gets. Only in GD land is the NRA a bunch of gun banners in cahoots with Diane Feinstein. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I would hope so, Although I stand behind him with my support because he is doing a lot of good stuff, there is a bunch of stuff he had very limited knowledge of. Only in GD land is the NRA a bunch of gun banners in cahoots with Diane Feinstein. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:02:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you believe that machine guns should be sold to children? Either you believe in infringement or you don't. Yes. Now, what is the definition of "child"? |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:02:53 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: link? |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:05:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't an issue for 95% of gun owners. Same with bump stocks. good or bad, thats how it is. this is more a 1st amendment issue than a 2nd amendment issue. once he learns that home made guns can't be sold legally already, there really isn't much he can do. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:05:55 PM EDT
[#36]
The guy doesn't know shit about guns or the constitution or what his lawful role is as President. Nothing he says surprises me at this point.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:07:02 PM EDT
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One thing is for certain is they aren't 2a purists. They DO believe there is room for negotiation on the "shall not be infringed" part which rightfully has people worried. the fact is, like all other amendments (except maybe the 3rd) there are laws which infringe against the plain language and meaning of the constitution. the 10th has been completely evicerated. the 9th as well. the 1st of course. You can beat your chest all day long on how "pure" you are but its irrelevant in the real world. I would like someone to explain what they think Trump is going to do about 3d printed guns. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK. So while you support Hillary Clinton et al, you are an absolutist when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and believe that guns should be available to anyone at anytime regardless their criminal past or age. So why is this your sword to fall on. Certainly background checks and FFLs are a much more onerous intrusion on the 2nd Amendment. Why do you crawl out of your hole now? Why aren't you taking to the streets to demand the repeal of all laws pertaining to the 2nd. 3d printed guns seems to be a minor point to an absolutist such as yourself. So while your a staunch conservative and a constitutional litterateur of the highest degree but you support common sense gun laws like restrictions on firearms across a number of fronts just as long as President MAGA says it’s cool. I guesss you supported the re-examining and reclassification of bump stocks And applauded along side Trump when the republican governor of FL raised the min age. I’m sure you support removing gun rights from felons that have served their time and people who have been served with a domestic protection orders. No doubt you support stripping gun rights from medical marijuana users. I’m not saying you have to support the 2a as it is written but you don’t get to play the conservative card if you don’t. I have no doubt that you won’t read this let alone address it but instead will post some BS to avoid the real topic as you have all along so far. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:15:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:16:33 PM EDT
[#40]
"OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT BIG ORANGE MEANIE...
picked Chris Christie for VP insulted "gold star families" threw the election to Hillary nominated his sister to SCOTUS signed DACA amnesty didn't give us a tax cut confiscated muh bumpstock colluded with Russia starved us because of his trade war started a nuclear war with the NORKs left those poor chillenz at the border nominated Rudy Giuliani to SCOTUS banned 3D gunz stuck a plastic straw in that poor turtle's nose FUCK DRUMPFFFF!!" 
3+ years of constant childish whining, bullshit predictions, oozing mendacious concern, and not enough integrity to admit your comically idiotic track record, and you all still expect to be taken seriously. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: less than 1/10th of one percent of gun owners are 2a purists. the fact is, like all other amendments (except maybe the 3rd) there are laws which infringe against the plain language and meaning of the constitution. the 10th has been completely evicerated. the 9th as well. the 1st of course. You can beat your chest all day long on how "pure" you are but its irrelevant in the real world. I would like someone to explain what they think Trump is going to do about 3d printed guns. So why tweet about things that don't need tweeting about? I am not against him trolling...and adopted changed attitude. I came over to the fight fire with fire side, I used to think it wasn't presidential. But all he did was sow fear into his base and give liberals hope. I don't get it. Why not just find another thing to tweet about, there are plenty. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:18:39 PM EDT
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Without reading, I'm going to predict that a half dozen trumpsuckers have already tried to explain how this is just strategery and he didn't really mean it. At least two extra special trumpsuckers unironically attempted to convince us that 3D printed find should be banned. Because background checks. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:18:46 PM EDT
[#43]
New Jersey AG claimed judge ruled in NJ favor and Cody backed down but Cody & his lawyer said that’s bullshit
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:22:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:22:49 PM EDT
[#45]
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Exactly, WHAT is he going to do about 3d printed guns? Nothing himself.... So why tweet about things that don't need tweeting about? I am not against him trolling...and adopted changed attitude. I came over to the fight fire with fire side, I used to think it wasn't presidential. But all he did was sow fear into his base and give liberals hope. I don't get it. Why not just find another thing to tweet about, there are plenty. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:24:09 PM EDT
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The guy doesn't know shit about guns or the constitution or what his lawful role is as President. Nothing he says surprises me at this point. You'll step up to the challenge, right 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:24:15 PM EDT
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Oh sure it was an unprecedented disaster. You might not want to hear it but it's fucking true ANY of the candidates would have beat HRC. You had your pick of the litter and you collectively decided to quadruple down on the lifelong Democrat from NYC. ...Because reasons! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The only other option was Hillary. I don't even want to hear the garbage that any republican would have beat her due to running a lousy campaign. Trump rattled her campaign, big time. The simple truth is she didn't know how to handle his style. NOBODY knew how to handle his style. Trump's campaign was unprecedented. You might not want to hear it but it's fucking true ANY of the candidates would have beat HRC. You had your pick of the litter and you collectively decided to quadruple down on the lifelong Democrat from NYC. ...Because reasons! It's not your opinions that make people dislike you, so much as your lack of qualifications for having them. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:27:18 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, the guy's obviously an idiot. I'm sure you could do a better job. You'll step up to the challenge, right If he thinks banning 3d printed guns is the "right thing to do" or if he thinks most people want that, that's what he'll do. Probably by executive branch rule-making. He doesn't know anything about 3D printing, or home made guns, or guns in general, either. And yeah, as far as your rights are concerned, I would do a better job. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:28:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, the guy's obviously an idiot. I'm sure you could do a better job. You'll step up to the challenge, right |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 4:33:00 PM EDT
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He tweeted himself into the Presidency and you're advising him on proper tweeting subjects? I don't get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Exactly, WHAT is he going to do about 3d printed guns? Nothing himself.... So why tweet about things that don't need tweeting about? I am not against him trolling...and adopted changed attitude. I came over to the fight fire with fire side, I used to think it wasn't presidential. But all he did was sow fear into his base and give liberals hope. I don't get it. Why not just find another thing to tweet about, there are plenty. Do you like it that he tweeted this? Do you think this is a great thing he did? By the way, he worked his way into the presidency. He trolled his way into the presidency during debates. He did many things to get into the presidency that all came together. But thanks for writing your own narrative. |
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