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Posted: 4/25/2020 5:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To all of you that say don't buy anything from China, here is an example of the problems we face. Today I realized that I need to buy some good C clamps because the ones that I was using were cheap junk (they are old, off brand, and I have no idea where they were made). Well I started shopping online and found some that looked quality and had good reviews (I won't mention the brand because it doesn't matter) for about $25 each. Of course they were made in China. I then searched for a made in USA C clamp, and found one brand that still manufacture them in the USA. Guess what the price was? $117.00 each. I told my son "either we pay the Chinese communists, or we go bankrupt." So which one would you buy? Which one will most people choose? Do you see the problem? Buy used. Money stays here and demand lowers |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 5:58:31 PM EDT
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This type of disruption will serve a needed service. I will get roasted for this, but it is like a forest fire. Thins things out a bit. The weak and sickly will get eaten, while the strong in the herd will live to fight another day. In the Dow 33,000 economy, anybody and everybody was doing gangbusters.
Are you a shitty A/C tech? No problem, buy a van and make a mint! Don't like your job at the factory? Fuck it, I'll start a pool cleaning service! In the mean time, legitimate hard working folks with a strong work ethic can't succeed because every Tom, Dick and Fuckstick is out there undercutting their prices, ripping people off, and generally fucking up the system. This will clean out the chaff and the strong will find a way to survive. Meh, I'm probably wrong. What the fuck do I know. |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 6:06:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy used. Money stays here and demand lowers Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To all of you that say don't buy anything from China, here is an example of the problems we face. Today I realized that I need to buy some good C clamps because the ones that I was using were cheap junk (they are old, off brand, and I have no idea where they were made). Well I started shopping online and found some that looked quality and had good reviews (I won't mention the brand because it doesn't matter) for about $25 each. Of course they were made in China. I then searched for a made in USA C clamp, and found one brand that still manufacture them in the USA. Guess what the price was? $117.00 each. I told my son "either we pay the Chinese communists, or we go bankrupt." So which one would you buy? Which one will most people choose? Do you see the problem? Buy used. Money stays here and demand lowers |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 6:17:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: We have to get back to work..  So go. Seriously. Organize 10,000 people to go re-open businesses and get this moving. What will the authorities do about it? What about the following week when its 100,000 back to work? Don't rely on the government and its timetable to get this done. Do it yourself. |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 7:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People are not running out of money. Everyday I break the sales record set the previous day. When this started every day’s sales numbers were like Black Friday, now they are double Black Friday and still going up. In a store that should sell $700,000 of product a week, I sell $300,000+ a day and a remarkable percentage of those sales are cash. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Paying employees? Chump shit. How about a million+ bux in inventory that has been thrown out the past few weeks for expiring in her warehouses. Why havent they been selling that instead of throwing it out? Are normal kitchens not good enough to cook it? Sell to whom? People are running out of money. Get to no money and there is no buying food. Donate it? Have you ever tried giving restaurant and commercial packaged kitchen food to a charity? I had the Salvation Army and an evangelical soup kitchen turn down perfectly good food because it wasn't coming from a commercial grocer. Sell it to retail grocers like Wegman's or Publix? Not from a non commercial source where they can be certain it was stored properly. Each passing day I am happier that I have enough land to grow my own food. It we hit 25% unemployed we'll see a return to Great Depression and wandering bands of the homeless and malnourished, People are not running out of money. Everyday I break the sales record set the previous day. When this started every day’s sales numbers were like Black Friday, now they are double Black Friday and still going up. In a store that should sell $700,000 of product a week, I sell $300,000+ a day and a remarkable percentage of those sales are cash. What are you selling? |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 9:39:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you selling? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Paying employees? Chump shit. How about a million+ bux in inventory that has been thrown out the past few weeks for expiring in her warehouses. Why havent they been selling that instead of throwing it out? Are normal kitchens not good enough to cook it? Sell to whom? People are running out of money. Get to no money and there is no buying food. Donate it? Have you ever tried giving restaurant and commercial packaged kitchen food to a charity? I had the Salvation Army and an evangelical soup kitchen turn down perfectly good food because it wasn't coming from a commercial grocer. Sell it to retail grocers like Wegman's or Publix? Not from a non commercial source where they can be certain it was stored properly. Each passing day I am happier that I have enough land to grow my own food. It we hit 25% unemployed we'll see a return to Great Depression and wandering bands of the homeless and malnourished, People are not running out of money. Everyday I break the sales record set the previous day. When this started every day’s sales numbers were like Black Friday, now they are double Black Friday and still going up. In a store that should sell $700,000 of product a week, I sell $300,000+ a day and a remarkable percentage of those sales are cash. What are you selling? Probably weed. |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 10:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should stick to talking about cop stuff. Your knowledge of trains is about as bad as your knowlegde of the history of the .40 S&W. OH, no, he didn't! |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 11:13:09 PM EDT
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Home improvement industry.
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Posted: 4/25/2020 11:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: buy once, cry once  |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why arent they getn bailout money and paying employees ? Something doesnt add up, the PPP is designed for this exact reason. There was a local report of people being pissed off because their boss didn't lay them off, they would have made more money on unemployment. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:03:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should stick to talking about cop stuff. Your knowledge of trains is about as bad as your knowlegde of the history of the .40 S&W. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Once the states start opening things up the economy will rebound but it won't as fast as we would like. There has been too much structural damage done to have a rapid recovery. It took us over a year to recover from the trillion dollar hit to the economy by 911. It will take us several years to fully recover from this 5-7 trillion dollar hit. If Trump gets reelected we will probably be back to 3.5-4.0% unemployment by the end of his next term. If Biden is elected we will probably be in the 7.0% range. *I'm not a Train Conductor or Engineer, this is just a metaphor. You should stick to talking about cop stuff. Your knowledge of trains is about as bad as your knowlegde of the history of the .40 S&W.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:17:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To all of you that say don't buy anything from China, here is an example of the problems we face. Today I realized that I need to buy some good C clamps because the ones that I was using were cheap junk (they are old, off brand, and I have no idea where they were made). Well I started shopping online and found some that looked quality and had good reviews (I won't mention the brand because it doesn't matter) for about $25 each. Of course they were made in China. I then searched for a made in USA C clamp, and found one brand that still manufacture them in the USA. Guess what the price was? $117.00 each. I told my son "either we pay the Chinese communists, or we go bankrupt." So which one would you buy? Which one will most people choose? Do you see the problem? Maybe start manufacturing C clamps? If that’s not a rhetorical question I’d say buy the Chinese version until you’re in a position to buy American or American C clamps are available at a lower price, which I think will happen eventually for a lot of American products. Demand is going to increase, and competition will produce lower prices. You’re more valuable to the nation and your family doing business. Going bankrupt is a loss for your family and this country, China wins in that scenario. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:26:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So go. Seriously. Organize 10,000 people to go re-open businesses and get this moving. What will the authorities do about it? What about the following week when its 100,000 back to work? Don't rely on the government and its timetable to get this done. Do it yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We have to get back to work.. So go. Seriously. Organize 10,000 people to go re-open businesses and get this moving. What will the authorities do about it? What about the following week when its 100,000 back to work? Don't rely on the government and its timetable to get this done. Do it yourself. Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:36:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:40:36 AM EDT
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.gov doesn't treat tax dollars like they had to work for them. Out of touch at all levels
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:10:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably weed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Paying employees? Chump shit. How about a million+ bux in inventory that has been thrown out the past few weeks for expiring in her warehouses. Why havent they been selling that instead of throwing it out? Are normal kitchens not good enough to cook it? Sell to whom? People are running out of money. Get to no money and there is no buying food. Donate it? Have you ever tried giving restaurant and commercial packaged kitchen food to a charity? I had the Salvation Army and an evangelical soup kitchen turn down perfectly good food because it wasn't coming from a commercial grocer. Sell it to retail grocers like Wegman's or Publix? Not from a non commercial source where they can be certain it was stored properly. Each passing day I am happier that I have enough land to grow my own food. It we hit 25% unemployed we'll see a return to Great Depression and wandering bands of the homeless and malnourished, People are not running out of money. Everyday I break the sales record set the previous day. When this started every day’s sales numbers were like Black Friday, now they are double Black Friday and still going up. In a store that should sell $700,000 of product a week, I sell $300,000+ a day and a remarkable percentage of those sales are cash. What are you selling? Probably weed. Shitty weed if his sales have dropped by 60% |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:12:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe start manufacturing C clamps? If that's not a rhetorical question I'd say buy the Chinese version until you're in a position to buy American or American C clamps are available at a lower price, which I think will happen eventually for a lot of American products. Demand is going to increase, and competition will produce lower prices. You're more valuable to the nation and your family doing business. Going bankrupt is a loss for your family and this country, China wins in that scenario. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To all of you that say don't buy anything from China, here is an example of the problems we face. Today I realized that I need to buy some good C clamps because the ones that I was using were cheap junk (they are old, off brand, and I have no idea where they were made). Well I started shopping online and found some that looked quality and had good reviews (I won't mention the brand because it doesn't matter) for about $25 each. Of course they were made in China. I then searched for a made in USA C clamp, and found one brand that still manufacture them in the USA. Guess what the price was? $117.00 each. I told my son "either we pay the Chinese communists, or we go bankrupt." So which one would you buy? Which one will most people choose? Do you see the problem? Maybe start manufacturing C clamps? If that's not a rhetorical question I'd say buy the Chinese version until you're in a position to buy American or American C clamps are available at a lower price, which I think will happen eventually for a lot of American products. Demand is going to increase, and competition will produce lower prices. You're more valuable to the nation and your family doing business. Going bankrupt is a loss for your family and this country, China wins in that scenario. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:25:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Americans and going nuts buying Chinese goods. Look here with the baofeng radios, Primary Arms/Holosun/Sig Optics, and every piece of tacticool gear thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: To all of you that say don't buy anything from China, here is an example of the problems we face. Today I realized that I need to buy some good C clamps because the ones that I was using were cheap junk (they are old, off brand, and I have no idea where they were made). Well I started shopping online and found some that looked quality and had good reviews (I won't mention the brand because it doesn't matter) for about $25 each. Of course they were made in China. I then searched for a made in USA C clamp, and found one brand that still manufacture them in the USA. Guess what the price was? $117.00 each. I told my son "either we pay the Chinese communists, or we go bankrupt." So which one would you buy? Which one will most people choose? Do you see the problem? Maybe start manufacturing C clamps? If that's not a rhetorical question I'd say buy the Chinese version until you're in a position to buy American or American C clamps are available at a lower price, which I think will happen eventually for a lot of American products. Demand is going to increase, and competition will produce lower prices. You're more valuable to the nation and your family doing business. Going bankrupt is a loss for your family and this country, China wins in that scenario. The basically slave labor goods from China are way less than the US where min wage is 7.5x an hour what most workers make in a day, plus taxes! Getting off that teet is gonna require some pain, for consumers, businesses, and the .gov at every level |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:40:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope There should have never been any shutdown. Survival of the fittest, if you think you will die stay home. Absolutely this. Way back when all this economic shutdown crap was starting everyone KNEW covid-19 almost entirely only affected elderly and unhealthy with the occasoinal younger person. The covid19 CARES act should have been aimed at the vulnerable to enable them to stay at home and shelter. For anyone of any age diagnosed and hospitalized with COVID19, anyone over 45 with significant comorbidities, anyone over 65 years old period; the CARES act should have provided qualified people with expanded UI, job protection for when the pandemic is over, trumpbucks to cover increased cost of home-delivered goods, adequete access to PPE, locked down nursing/retirement homes, etc... Give the most at risk people the tools needed to enable them to protect themselves. If they want to go out and risk getting china flu then that's on them. There should have been no total shutdown. Yeah, you'd lose a couple hundred/thousand more "young" people but he economy as a whole would be in the toilet like it is today, the stimulus would have been much cheaper, and the economy wouldn't have to try to heal from a near standstill. Let the bulk of the low-risk working age people continue working and keep the economy pumping. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:53:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China is Asshole. So is Iran and North Korea. Russia is too. And so are Islamic terrorists. Blame them for this virus. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 4:13:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To all of you that say don't buy anything from China, here is an example of the problems we face. Today I realized that I need to buy some good C clamps because the ones that I was using were cheap junk (they are old, off brand, and I have no idea where they were made). Well I started shopping online and found some that looked quality and had good reviews (I won't mention the brand because it doesn't matter) for about $25 each. Of course they were made in China. I then searched for a made in USA C clamp, and found one brand that still manufacture them in the USA. Guess what the price was? $117.00 each. I told my son "either we pay the Chinese communists, or we go bankrupt." So which one would you buy? Which one will most people choose? Do you see the problem? |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 4:30:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should stick to talking about cop stuff. Your knowledge of trains is about as bad as your knowlegde of the history of the .40 S&W. ok boomer. 
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Posted: 4/26/2020 5:22:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. There are a lot of exceptions. I still go to work in an office (ecommerce) and almost every office on our block is still open. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 5:24:15 AM EDT
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No no no, we all need to starve to death. Much better than maybe getting the flu.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 8:33:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you want a quality C clamp that is US made or not? If buying some good C clamps to reliably run your business bankrupts you, maybe the problem is not the clamps? Yeah, paying four times as much for equivalent tools is just good business sense.
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Posted: 4/26/2020 8:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can blame China for Covid-19, we can't blame China for the insane unconstitutional government overreaching respsonse to Covid-19. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Blaming our government for this virus is kinda like blaming the NYC city council for 9/11 This virus exists to the extent it does because China lied and concealed the truth. They are responsible for this. Every other government is simply trying to choose the least worst path through this mess...because there is no good path. I'd be fine with Trump sending a letter to China stating that we have elected to default on 100% of our debt to them, that we consider their neglect an act of war, and that in response we are writing our debt to them off our books...end of game. Fuck them...their industry...their economy...and the nations who foster them. I'm not sure who would be more pissed....China, or all the nations they owe (our) money to. Correct answer. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:00:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a "Safer at Home" order and there are no consequences (coded law) to ignoring them. They are a list of recommendations. It's being left to city police departments and county sheriffs to enforce. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. It is a misdemeanor in Pinellas County |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:25:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a misdemeanor in Pinellas County Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. It is a misdemeanor in Pinellas County  I love seeing that political parties really aren't as divided as people thought they were. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:29:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL.... you have Republican gun grabbing Sheriff Bob Gualtieri and I'm in Leon with Democrat Sheriff Walt McNeil where it isn't a misdemeanor. I love seeing that political parties really aren't as divided as people thought they were. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. It is a misdemeanor in Pinellas County I love seeing that political parties really aren't as divided as people thought they were. The few PCSO deputies I have interacted with have been highly professional and Sheriff Bob seems to run a tight ship, but his comments on open carry were unforgivable. For those who don’t know, the Sheriff publicly said that if the FL legislature allowed open carry, he would give all his deputies a standing order to prone out open carriers at gunpoint and cuff them, then figure out if they were up to no good, were prohibited persons, etc. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 10:12:50 AM EDT
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None of this bad stuff can't be happening according to the stock market
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Posted: 4/26/2020 10:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The few PCSO deputies I have interacted with have been highly professional and Sheriff Bob seems to run a tight ship, but his comments on open carry were unforgivable. His comments on red flag laws aren't much better. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 10:17:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Won't happen. Americans are addict to cheap Chinese goods. Loook at Arfcom and we aren't even a microcosm of the nation's population. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Baofeng-5-pack-on-WOOT/5-2321808/? Look at how many threads pop up about Baofeng radios, ChiCom made Red Dots, Tacticool Gear made overseas, etc.... The average American Consumer is even worse. Who here knows how to make red dots and radios? Building for sale. Big bitch is for assembling optics.  Neck beard radio assembly/manufacturing buildings.  Pay 8.5 million for the whole place. Not a penny more. Quick Google search of the area... Oooof. Unemployment rate4.8% Poverty level21.3% Median household income$39,330 Median earnings male$28,692 Median earnings female$22,484 Hire and train locally. If folks are taking home after tax and health insurance, say. 700 per week each? That's going to render free shit army values irrelevant. Tie conservative values and a strong pro2A stance, pride in craftsmanship/quality? Crank out a high volume to be priced competitively... MADE IN USA no chicom support? I think it could be done. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 10:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you selling? Probably groceries, cleaning supplies, sporting goods, home gym equipment, home office supplies, video games, cooking supplies, or any of the other stuff that is booming. Some market sectors are seeing daily sales numbers they have never seen outside of Black Friday. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of this bad stuff can't be happening according to the stock market .You seem confused about what the stock market is. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:49:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Wife and I had a trip planned for our 25th wedding anniversary to Florida for the first of May, everything went down the tubes once things started shutting down. My wife and I were going to Europe this year for our 50th anniversary. Forget about that. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 1:50:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both gave the money back. Under duress... Or, should I say, once the sunlight shone on them. TC |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 2:07:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why arent they getn bailout money and paying employees ? Something doesnt add up, the PPP is designed for this exact reason.  
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The few PCSO deputies I have interacted with have been highly professional and Sheriff Bob seems to run a tight ship, but his comments on open carry were unforgivable. For those who don’t know, the Sheriff publicly said that if the FL legislature allowed open carry, he would give all his deputies a standing order to prone out open carriers at gunpoint and cuff them, then figure out if they were up to no good, were prohibited persons, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. It is a misdemeanor in Pinellas County I love seeing that political parties really aren't as divided as people thought they were. The few PCSO deputies I have interacted with have been highly professional and Sheriff Bob seems to run a tight ship, but his comments on open carry were unforgivable. For those who don’t know, the Sheriff publicly said that if the FL legislature allowed open carry, he would give all his deputies a standing order to prone out open carriers at gunpoint and cuff them, then figure out if they were up to no good, were prohibited persons, etc. Sounds like tyranny. They are getting good at it at this point |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 3:49:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We have to get back to work.. So go. Seriously. Organize 10,000 people to go re-open businesses and get this moving. What will the authorities do about it? What about the following week when its 100,000 back to work? Don't rely on the government and its timetable to get this done. Do it yourself. Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. If I had a business that was about to go under anyways, I'd open back up. You've got nothing to lose at that point. 
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Posted: 4/26/2020 4:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like tyranny. They are getting good at it at this point Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Send the police? Businesses are closed by government decree in Florida. Local and state. You know what local government LOOOOVES from the state? Unfunded mandates. You're going to get a lot of city cops and deputies going, "fuck it." This state is borderline ungovernable and law enforcement is just good enough to keep people from overtly killing each other in the street. It is a misdemeanor in Pinellas County I love seeing that political parties really aren't as divided as people thought they were. The few PCSO deputies I have interacted with have been highly professional and Sheriff Bob seems to run a tight ship, but his comments on open carry were unforgivable. For those who don’t know, the Sheriff publicly said that if the FL legislature allowed open carry, he would give all his deputies a standing order to prone out open carriers at gunpoint and cuff them, then figure out if they were up to no good, were prohibited persons, etc. Sounds like tyranny. They are getting good at it at this point Tyranny is really easy when the doomer sheep are begging you for it. 
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Posted: 4/27/2020 4:21:54 AM EDT
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 Under then Gov. Rick Scott's two terms, the GOP gutted the unemployment system. Republicans were cheering the cuts when the good times were happening and the economy was rocking. But they didn't build a rainy day fund for possible economic downturns. Now as a US Senator, Rick Scott is further rubbing it in Floridians' faces. Rick Scott, who gutted Florida's unemployment system, says coronavirus stimulus will pay low-wage workers too much Florida Sen. Rick Scott says unemployed people make too much money, won't 'go back to work' Rick Scott says Americans would rather collect unemployment than go to work - moot point considering that most claimants can't get any benefits at all. Gov. DeSantis says unemployment system was 'designed to fail' - DeSantis slammed the Rick Scott-era website.  |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 4:22:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2020 6:00:31 AM EDT
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When a good chunk of our population is over the age of 60 and they're the most at risk. It irks them and many younger voters too because it is being interpreted as DeSantis not caring about the elderly. These people have families. Furthermore, there is the issue of DeSantis sweeping nursing home deaths under the rug.
Florida won't say which group homes have had coronavirus Gov. DeSantis faces pressure to ID hard-hit nursing homes Miami Herald drafted a suit seeking ALF records. DeSantis aide pressured law firm not to file it DeSantis twists arm of Miami Herald attorney Explosive': Office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Attempted to Squash Newspaper's Lawsuit Seeking Coronavirus Records The State under DeSantis' directions originally wouldn't say which facilities were infected. It took the threat of a lawsuit to get that information out to the public. That plus his statement, means the totality of the situation paints a bleak picture in the scope of Public Opinion and Public Perception of him right now. Florida is a crucial swing state with tiny margins. The goal is to attract the fence sitters to the Right so they can maintain majority. The State has 5.04 million registered Democrats voters, compared to 4.79 million registered Republicans. An additional 3.78 million voters are registered with minor parties or have no party affiliation. If Florida Republicans want to maintain power in statewide elections, they need to court those 3.78 million independents. Many of them are Centrist or Slightly Left. Making disparaging remarks during a press conference about the elderly doesn't help. Public perception sways public opinion and public opinion is what makes or breaks politics. There is a reason why politicians have public relation handlers. Tampa Mayor Jane Castor gets 78% approval rating in pandemic, outdoing DeSantis, Trump, new poll shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' confusing coronavirus response is hurting his public standing Florida governor sees approval rating drop amid virus outbreak DeSantis is dropping in popularity, but Trump is doing worse in FL. Poll: DeSantis fares better on COVID-19 test than president Biden has slim lead over Trump in Florida in new Fox News poll If there is one thing I've learned, down ballot consequences do happen when the publicly perceived leadership of the Party drops in poll numbers and approval ratings. If Trump loses support and DeSantis loses support, that effects the Congressional and State Legislative elections. Furthermore, it can effect Trump's own campaign. Remember, FL went for Obama twice and Trump won FL with less than a 2% lead over Hillary. DeSantis barely beat Gillum in too and that was also a tiny lead. The key to winning FL is winning the fence sitters. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 7:43:08 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like your neighbor just didn't have the business acuity/agility to repurpose her food service sales into the consumer grocery market while this shut down plays out. Hell, the grocery stores were running out of stuff because people were buying multiple units...like food service sized packs. Worst case scenario she could have donated it all to food pantries and taken a write off. With the PPP money available, she should have been able to keep those people on her payroll. With the government dough being made available...there's damn little reason anybody with enough sense to operate a business is being forced to permanently close down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No cruise ships, no hotel stays, no tourism, no beaches. These D.C. government robots with paychecks coming off the money press are so out of touch with how many Americans have nothing coming in right now. My neighbor owns a commercial food distribution biz that services restaurants and she can't afford to reopen it. All the employees(50-60) are hosed. We have to get back to work.. Sounds like your neighbor just didn't have the business acuity/agility to repurpose her food service sales into the consumer grocery market while this shut down plays out. Hell, the grocery stores were running out of stuff because people were buying multiple units...like food service sized packs. Worst case scenario she could have donated it all to food pantries and taken a write off. With the PPP money available, she should have been able to keep those people on her payroll. With the government dough being made available...there's damn little reason anybody with enough sense to operate a business is being forced to permanently close down. How much money can a business get for the PPP? Can it be used to pay rent as well? I talked to a business owner who told me his monthly rent is $26,000.00 |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 7:44:15 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Government ruins everything. No exceptions. . |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:10:25 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct answer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Blaming our government for this virus is kinda like blaming the NYC city council for 9/11 This virus exists to the extent it does because China lied and concealed the truth. They are responsible for this. Every other government is simply trying to choose the least worst path through this mess...because there is no good path. I'd be fine with Trump sending a letter to China stating that we have elected to default on 100% of our debt to them, that we consider their neglect an act of war, and that in response we are writing our debt to them off our books...end of game. Fuck them...their industry...their economy...and the nations who foster them. I'm not sure who would be more pissed....China, or all the nations they owe (our) money to. Correct answer. Yes and no. China released the virus, AND set the example of perceived needed response to it. As much as they denied it, we (and by extension, world leaders) watch them physically cut off roads, lock people in buildings, and demand complete economic shutdown. When things progressed to looking bad in Iran (and Italy), who followed similar measures, it all but guaranteed similar response world wide. I'm not saying that following the world WAS right, but its not like we are the only country to do so, and we all started by watching China. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:13:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a local report of people being pissed off because their boss didn't lay them off, they would have made more money on unemployment. PPP funds ran out rather fast, and a lot of small business did not get approved |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 1:58:01 PM EDT
[#49]
update:
Neighbor tells me they closed doors for good yesterday. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 2:23:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: update: Neighbor tells me they closed doors for good yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted: update: Neighbor tells me they closed doors for good yesterday. these guys? Man, that sucks. My neighbor owns a commercial food distribution biz that services restaurants and she can't afford to reopen it. All the employees(50-60) are hosed. |
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