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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:45:52 PM EDT
So my new double wall oven's power lead does not reach my junction box that the old one reached. My thoughts are I can install a new junction box and splice with metal conduit and same gauge wire to the old junction box?
The oven: GE Double Wall Oven  Attached FileEDIT: Im thinking now maybe the top tow capped blue boxes might have 220 wire, that just needs to be connected at the panel. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:48:31 PM EDT
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Can you replace the oven wiring with longer wires?
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:55:39 PM EDT
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Can you replace the oven wiring with longer wires? |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:01:21 AM EDT
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Yes.
edit: just make sure you size your conduit right. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:07:18 AM EDT
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Splice the cord
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:11:29 AM EDT
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Is this your situation: cord or flex/wire of new oven is to short to reach the existing box with the 240 ckt in it? Just clarifying that I understand your OP.
Can you post a few photos as well?... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:14:02 AM EDT
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Are you starving until it is operational?
Can we send emergency Meals on Wheels? |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:20:10 AM EDT
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I would not splice anything. Do it right. Longer appliance cord or new line to the box.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:21:31 AM EDT
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install a 220 recep in the wall and use an appliance cord, never worry about wire nuts again.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:23:35 AM EDT
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I removed the rear panel to learn the power leads fo deep into the guts. They don't appear to be easily replaceable. At all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you replace the oven wiring with longer wires? |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:23:53 AM EDT
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Is this your situation: cord or flex/wire of new oven is to short to reach the existing box with the 240 ckt in it? Just clarifying that I understand your OP. Can you post a few photos as well?... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:24:16 AM EDT
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What model oven?
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:25:37 AM EDT
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Maybe not easy, but probably the best option. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:26:56 AM EDT
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What model oven? |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:31:13 AM EDT
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Is there a reason not to just use a 240v extension cord?
If it's a dumb idea feel free to call me an idiot, I dont mess with anything that isnt 110 |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:33:00 AM EDT
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Is there a reason not to just use a 240v extension cord? If it's a dumb idea feel free to call me an idiot, I dont mess with anything that isnt 110 |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:35:08 AM EDT
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Yeah I really don't know. But there is no terminal on the cable. It's meant to terminate in a junction box. Not the typical 4 prong 220 cable you'd attach to a dryer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there a reason not to just use a 240v extension cord? If it's a dumb idea feel free to call me an idiot, I dont mess with anything that isnt 110 |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:36:41 AM EDT
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Is the existing junction box directly below where you need the new box to go? Have any pictures?
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:40:11 AM EDT
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Digging into the oven to install a longer cord is easier than cutting out drywall and installing a junction box and conduit. I would go that route.
If that's absolutely out of the question I would make my own extension cord with insulated m/f crimp terminals and heat shrink. And hope the home inspection doesn't catch it at sell time. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:42:08 AM EDT
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I had to do this when I remodeled my kitchen, what I did is run the main wire into a new junction box and then jumped that to a new plug for the range, it was under the supervision of an electrician and approved by the county inspector, did that over 12 years ago and have never had a problem.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:42:52 AM EDT
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Is the existing junction box directly below where you need the new box to go? Have any pictures? |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:43:37 AM EDT
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Yeah I really don't know. But there is no terminal on the cable. It's meant to terminate in a junction box. Not the typical 4 prong 220 cable you'd attach to a dryer. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:44:40 AM EDT
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Digging into the oven to install a longer cord is easier than cutting out drywall and installing a junction box and conduit. I would go that route. If that's absolutely out of the question I would make my own extension cord with m/f crimp terminals and heat shrink. And hope the home inspection doesn't catch it at sell time. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:45:24 AM EDT
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It's about 1 foot below where I need it. Sorry no pics right now. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:46:23 AM EDT
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I have room to install the metal junction box onto the outside of the drywall. Is that against code? That is how the current box is installed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Digging into the oven to install a longer cord is easier than cutting out drywall and installing a junction box and conduit. I would go that route. If that's absolutely out of the question I would make my own extension cord with m/f crimp terminals and heat shrink. And hope the home inspection doesn't catch it at sell time. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:47:28 AM EDT
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edit: wrong model
Ovens come equipped with a 40" long conduit. If a longer conduit is desired, there may be one available for
your model. To check availability or order parts, call 1.800.GE.CARES. Another alternative is to add a new junction box and run new wire behind wall to old box. All splices should be in a junction box, up to your local code. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:49:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are only dealing with a foot or so, get a new cord and dig in and put it on the new range or have an electrician make a short extension cord for you. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:54:00 AM EDT
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Can I not make my own 'extension' cord by soldering onto the existing wire? I'd really rather not completely disassemble the oven - and this seems like a rather crazy solution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: If you are only dealing with a foot or so, get a new cord and dig in and put it on the new range or have an electrician make a short extension cord for you. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:54:29 AM EDT
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Can I not make my own 'extension' cord by soldering onto the existing wire? I'd really rather not completely disassemble the oven - and this seems like a rather crazy solution. By the way, what model range did you buy, I have really never seen one you have to dismantle to put a cord on it? |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:55:05 AM EDT
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Can I not make my own 'extension' cord by soldering onto the existing wire? I'd really rather not completely disassemble the oven - and this seems like a rather crazy solution. You need to make the splice in a junction box. Dont mess with the cord. You will need armored wire if running on the surface. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:59:46 AM EDT
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Just put a new box above the one you have transfer the oulet in the bottom box to the top and splice the wires in the old box running the correct size wire to the new box. You need to make the splice in a junction box. Dont mess with the cord. You will need armored wire if running on the surface. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:08:33 AM EDT
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This is easy enough for me. Is attaching a metal junction box to drywall a garden variety move? Your problem will be finding the correct sized armored wire in a cheap enough length. Probably need 10/3 depending on how it is wired. How is the wire get to the existing box now? From the wall? Or conduit? Its not rocket science but you prob should have a bit more knowledge before taking this on. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:24:23 AM EDT
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I am not an electrician and it is late but usually you dont run romex in conduit and you definitely dont expose it.
Since I imagine behind your stove is a dry location i believe you could run a short section of romex in your conduit. Or just get thhn and don't worry about it. Sparkys will be along to check my work i hope. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:39:55 AM EDT
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Home Depot as well as Lowe's sell 10 6/3 range cords, they are about $38.00 a piece, if you are one foot short on a range with a 4 foot cord, you can get 4 foot, 5 foot, 6 foot or 10 foot cords for them.
I would still like to see the back of the range at your connections if possible. Or at least know the brand and model. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:47:39 AM EDT
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Uh, you screw it to a stud. Your problem will be finding the correct sized armored wire in a cheap enough length. Probably need 10/3 depending on how it is wired. How is the wire get to the existing box now? From the wall? Or conduit? Its not rocket science but you prob should have a bit more knowledge before taking this on. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:52:12 AM EDT
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Home Depot as well as Lowe's sell 10 6/3 range cords, they are about $38.00 a piece, if you are one foot short on a range with a 4 foot cord, you can get 4 foot, 5 foot, 6 foot or 10 foot cords for them. I would still like to see the back of the range at your connections if possible. Or at least know the brand and model. https://m.lowes.com/pd/GE-Self-Cleaning-True-Convection-Double-Electric-Wall-Oven-Stainless-Steel-Common-27-Inch-Actual-26-75-in/50080730 When I pull the oven back out to wire it in I'll remove the back panel again and snap a pic. But the power lines dissappear into the interior without easy access that I could tell. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:52:53 AM EDT
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240, 241... Whatever it takes
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:54:58 AM EDT
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I am not an electrician and it is late but usually you dont run romex in conduit and you definitely dont expose it. Since I imagine behind your stove is a dry location i believe you could run a short section of romex in your conduit. Or just get thhn and don't worry about it. Sparkys will be along to check my work i hope. Some places it's done all the time, other places you just don't see it at all. You can run it in conduit but you don't see that much at all since it's designed to be run exposed. Sicne MC is now a thing you're seeing that used more and more instead or NM for these applications. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 1:59:55 AM EDT
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Install new jbox. Run MC cable from old jbox to new jbox. Wire in new stove to new j box.
Do not use an extension cord. Some inspectors allow NM exposed inside of cabinets, MC is the best way though |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 2:13:26 AM EDT
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This is not a plug in range system, it is designed to be hardwired into the junction box and based on the owners manual has a 10 foot conduit hook up included with the range, it is not designed to be a plug in. If you are uncomfortable with this type of system, you are going to be ahead of the game by calling an electrician..
I am really good and home remodeling, but if you spent that much on this range system, spend another couple of hundred and have an electrician come out and hook it up properly. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 8:55:41 AM EDT
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This is not a plug in range system, it is designed to be hardwired into the junction box and based on the owners manual has a 10 foot conduit hook up included with the range, it is not designed to be a plug in. If you are uncomfortable with this type of system, you are going to be ahead of the game by calling an electrician.. I am really good and home remodeling, but if you spent that much on this range system, spend another couple of hundred and have an electrician come out and hook it up properly. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:00:12 AM EDT
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Splice the cord |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:02:47 AM EDT
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Yes this exactly. The box is in the rear of a drawer below the oven cavity. The new oven has the power line exiting the oven much higher than the old one. The cavity actually has 2 covered blue junction boxes but it doesn't seem they're wired in. I tested one with no voltage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this your situation: cord or flex/wire of new oven is to short to reach the existing box with the 240 ckt in it? Just clarifying that I understand your OP. Can you post a few photos as well?... If already wired but not terminated on a breaker it may be an easy (enough) job to get this other cable connected and energized. It's tough to help from this side of my phone though... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:05:06 AM EDT
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This will be safe....
Pull a new cable to the oven. Don’t risk your house over 100.00 bucks worth of wire. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:05:10 AM EDT
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Use metal coat hangars and wire nut them together maintaining 87mm of air gap and you'll be good to go
Think telephone pole looking wires... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:06:56 AM EDT
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Can I not make my own 'extension' cord by soldering onto the existing wire? I'd really rather not completely disassemble the oven - and this seems like a rather crazy solution. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: If you are only dealing with a foot or so, get a new cord and dig in and put it on the new range or have an electrician make a short extension cord for you. Is the flex metallic? I assume it is 1/2" steel/aluminum flex... |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:09:45 AM EDT
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This is easy enough for me. Is attaching a metal junction box to drywall a garden variety move? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just put a new box above the one you have transfer the oulet in the bottom box to the top and splice the wires in the old box running the correct size wire to the new box. You need to make the splice in a junction box. Dont mess with the cord. You will need armored wire if running on the surface.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:13:43 AM EDT
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install a 220 recep in the wall and use an appliance cord, never worry about wire nuts again. Coiling it a bit will make installation much easier. Make certain to keep the cord away from potentially hot surfaces. |
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:16:30 AM EDT
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I would go b to home depot and buy 2 feet of 40 amp rated cord and the correct male/female plugs.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:27:17 AM EDT
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Call a couple appliance repair places and electricians and ask how much to put a longer cord or have them hook it up. Then you will know if the hassle is worth the effort.
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:51:25 AM EDT
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install a 220 recep in the wall and use an appliance cord, never worry about wire nuts again. |
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