Canada healthcare is the future, especially if we go socialist/ communist. “ oh you’re fat and need constant medical care? Well, you just used up your allotment of healthcare for life with this visit at age 30. Guards, please assist fatty here to the assisted suicide dept.  NEXT !

If they do treat you, they will demand cash up front, “ oh, you need an expensive surgery due to your obesity? Well best sell your car / house / sign over your 401k, because that’s the only way we’re doing it.

I've recently heard a few different morbidly obese people comment that they started blood pressure medicine in high school

Some people are like me, and just say fuck it I’m going to live until I die and I’m going to enjoy myself in between then.

I’m not into any hard drugs and I don’t drink, but I am 47 years old 6 foot tall and have never weighed more than 150 pounds. I don’t gain weight, and I can lose 5 pounds a day on demand. My entire life I eat anything and everything I want at any time. I haven’t been to a doctor in over 20 years and I don’t go unless there is a major issue. I refuse to be a cash cow for a corrupt health system. Again I plan on living until I die and enjoying myself while I’m here.

The end.

That could be his problem. He may have wanted a family and at his age its becoming a vanishing dream.


I’ve found that the stress that comes along with raising a family is rather fulfilling.

Yes. Every time I go to work.

My wife & I workout/train religiously. She's a triathlete, I run, we both workout in our barn several nights a week.

Routinely, someone we know will casually mention how they're trying to get in shape or "doctor told me to lose thirty/eighty/two hundred pounds..." etc.

I've realized they want you to give them a "cheat code" or tell them you'll do it for them somehow.

A Master Chief in our squadron would smoke 3–4 packs of Paul Mall non filters in an 8-hour shift.  He would buddy light one off the other all day.  When we were deployed, it was worse.  We were rationed to 6 cartons a month, and he would pay non-smokers $100 a month to go get him more because he would be through his monthly allotment in a week.  He wasn't allowed to work on the flight deck because he could move fast enough or very far without stopping to catch his breath.

Just before I got out, the Navy started yearly P.T. tests, and he had to get waivers because he could do any of the exercises required to pass.  When he was getting the waivers, he was told that he had less than 1/8 of his total lung capacity left and if he didn't stop smoking, he wouldn't last much longer.

About 6 months after I got out, I heard from a couple buddies that he died smoking up to the very end.

every morning in the mirror, getting things back in check again.

my cousin drank herself to death in her early 30s, real shame too she was a wonderful person, not a mean bone in her entire body she just couldn't get control.

dang op sorry about your friend, but thanks for posting this.

Its convinced me to go on a 48hr fast.  maybe with enough support I can do it 3days or maybe even 96hr like I was able to manage only once about 5 years ago.  all >24hr attempts after that 96hr one have failed misreably.

and last week i really gave my pancreas the business.  i got to do something.
im not really all that fat, i lift almost every day, never smoke but have been downing a glass of red wine almost every day.... but last week i really hammered on my glands with the sugar.  almost to the point im wondering if my wife is trying to kill me.

Yes, my older Brother. Dead at 58 due to cancer from smoking, refusal to have annual checkups, or ever see a doctor, where the cancer probably would have been spotted early and of course continuing to smoke till the day he died.

I have an ex-girlfriend I've kept in touch with who discovered her love for marijuana, which in turn ignited a love of snacks, and has resulted in at least 150 lbm of weight gain since when we were dating. It's sad, she was gorgeous, 5'6" busty, brilliant blue eyes. She's totally destroyed her health now and just keeps doubling down on stoner culture.

It's very sad, she's a good person but can't or won't see what's happening.

I had a cousin get one of the stomach surgeries. He somehow managed to hide that he was an alcoholic. I guess after the surgery his stomach could only hold so much, so he had to choose alcohol or food and water.

The last I heard he was vomiting blood.

Congrats on getting something like easily treatable colon cancer because DURR HEALTH SYSTEM

I had four weekend neighbors who were drunks, one is now dead.

One is 400 lbs and just came up for the weekend. He brought 60 bears and drank all 60 plus a half of bottle of vodka. Sad thing is the guy had a lap band put in years ago to help lose weight and he is heavier than ever because of his drinking. He has some heart issues now and is on meds for it.

Another has been a functional alcoholic for his entire adult life, now 70. He is also a pain pill popper and a two pack a day smoker. By his own admission he had tried ever drug there was to be had during his life. Two years ago he had a serious heart where they cracked him open. He now has a major issue with a blockage in his leg. He said he will switch to vaping. As if that is going to help him.

Another one is a beer a day guy with the rest of the day being spent by consuming a never ending glass of vodka on ice.  His wife died from alcoholism, she was also a two pack a day woman.  Looking at old pictures it was amazing how her looks transformed as her alcoholism got worse.

My buddy who died had diabetes like his father and just like his dad they started cutting toes off and than a finger. They wound up taking his leg and shortly thereafter he died. He would come up with a case of alcohol for a few days and several cakes. He would test his blood sugar and smile if it was in a good range which meant he could drink more.

Life long friends wife died just before Christmas. She apparently drank herself to death in about five years.

Former coworker.

Was huge when I started working. Fought with company insurance to get lap band surgery. Since she had a long history of weight related issues, they made her go through counseling, eat a strictly controlled diet, lots of conditions had to be fulfilled both before the surgery and for years AFTER the surgery.

She got much thinner and fit, and was happy.

Since she couldn’t take out her destructive impulses on herself with food, she turned to destructive sexual behavior, even going so far as it get herself held hostage by a rapist.

Once the dietary and psychological requirements were met, she went back to self destructive eating. She blew up even bigger than she was before, and started drinking bottles of alcohol at a time. I once saw her drink a 750 of Eagle Rare in like half an hour.

Because of the surgery, she was supposed to take specific vitamins, and she didn’t   She had the expected joint issues from weight as well.  She ate herself into the hospital, and then died.

Her family said it was cancer. We all know better.

“Eatin like some damn rabbit all the time.  Dat ain’t livin”.  Dying ain’t much of a living either.

Yes,

High school buddy who went Marines with me drank himself to death at the age of 44. He was STA 1/3 SS.

Frickin' sucked to watch, he just would not stop.

I have a good friend that is an alcoholic and a smoker and has died twice. He has a pacemaker , at 51 , and continues to drink , smoke , and eat shitty food. He now shuffles like an old man of 90 and constantly complains about having to walk too far if we go anywhere. I have a feeling his veins are like cement and it's just a matter of when the next one hits him.

I've tried talking to him about trying to get a little healthier , but not going to do it.

Well.. to be fair if you're 90, fuck it why not.

But smoking is a bad one, I don't get it. You haven't heard rationalizing until you've heard a 65 year old explain why they won't stop smoking.

Fuck em.

Every single type 2 diabetic I know.

Oh well. This world is turning to shit and 99% of the people in it are shit. I’ve raised my children and enjoyed most everything that I wanted to in this life. When it’s over, whether it be tomorrow or in 50 years, no complaints.

I see it every day. People like that give me job security. I'm an RN working on the OR. Had a lady in the OR a month or so back for a leg amputation. The vascular surgeon was pissed. He had done a bypass to supply blood flow to the leg a couple of months before. Long, complex procedure which worked well, the leg had great pulses afterwards. The patient goes home, sits on her ass and continues smoking two packs a day, the bypasses close up and the leg now has to go.

When my father was dying from a kidney stone caused blockage he demanded to be let out of the hospital after going through dialysis. He insisted that he would rather die than go through that again.

He was also screaming for a ?? he didn't even wait to leave the parking lot of the hospital before he lit up. If he had any strength left I have no doubt that he would have torn his way out of that hospital to the nearest 7/11.

Sometimes doing the right thing becomes too difficult so they give up.
Not saying I agree and also not saying a healthy person could understand but it's true.

80% of chronic diseases are caused by lifestyle. Smoking, drinking, eating and living a sedentary lifestyle are killers. It’s obvious to all, but when you’re an addict or have mental illness that manifests with addiction it’s difficult to break through to them.

We should be focusing on prevention at a very early age (think health class in elementary school and a re-emphasis on the importance of gym class). Beating these kids with knowledge on their personal health would probably result in a decline of such things over the long run.

What we are currently doing is a threat to national security in terms of cost and able bodied people.

Watching it right now unfortunately. BIL has been a HEAVY smoker since I've known him (8years). He has known about spots in his lungs for a few years now. Today he is unable to walk, has ulcers popping up in his colon, has pancytopenia.....and awaiting an appointment at M.D. Anderson.  I hope for the best, but seeing how quickly he's going down I honestly don't see this going in a good direction for him.

I once had a patient at the VA who suffered from Buerger's disease (which leads to gangrene of fingers and toes and is markedly worsened/caused by tobacco use). By the end of my residency the guy had lost all of his fingers and thumbs on each hand, a digit or two at a time, over the course of my 5 years.

I was walking into the hospital and notice this vet outside smoking, holding the cigarette between his palms. He sees me notice him, and just asks, "Why not?" Very fatalistic, but he was smiling when he asked.

Super sad.

I have a friend who had a heart attack 10 years ago but he chugs down a ton of energy drinks, and is addicted to vaping.
His voice sounds like he's underwater but he says it keeps him off of cigarettes and alcohol.
Some people just can't live without vices.

I've a friend with COPD who smoked cigarettes incessantly.  Using a n oxygen machine, then having a cigarette.  He suffered a stroke, was comatose in an icu.  Doctor had the "quality of life........" conversation with family.  

He came out of the coma that day. It was fairly long road back to health.  He's stopped smoking, lost weight, and now eats healthy, he's changed for the better.

Both my father and mother-n-law.

FiL is a diagnosed diabetic, MiL has diagnosed heart disease - if she doesn't have diabetes now she has to be on her way to it. Both have shit diets and do zero physical activity. Both make comments about how they should eat like I do every time I have a meal at their place, but neither ever actually does anything about it. I'd be more than willing to help them (doctors have just told them to take their meds and nothing else), but they can't be troubled to actually do it.

My fil gave up on life and took up the couch.  Went from really fit to half dead in under two years, even took up smoking again after having a stroke.

It's a cowards suicide I believe. They're terrified of death but also don't wish to live.

Sister in law got both knees replaced.  Sits around smoking 2 packs a day, eats nothing healthy.  Still cant walk acroos the room without moaning abd grunting.  Sells junk in yard sales to buy cigs.  Getting ready for a disability check.  She wont last 5 more years if shes lucky.  Already had a tumor cut off her kidney.

Had a summer job growing up in Germany. US Airforce set up a thing called "Summer Hire" and us kids could work for 3-4 days a week at labor jobs for minimum wage.
I drew the Painting crew. We painted curbs and parking lots on a Base. Job was pretty cool for a 13 year old.

We used to roll in a big blue chevy AF Van that had a flammable sticker on the side. Our boss a AF sargeant smoked while driving that thing, he used to put a hole in his respirator so he could smoke while painting. Got cancer and quit everything, lost a ton of weight and went through the whole program back in the states.
Kicked it and came back over to Germany and he was back to smoking and drinking nonstop. Died a few years later.

Some people are born to flame out. Let em do it, and enjoy the time with em.

Friend one: Supposedly a smart dude, 3 MS degrees, a master computer scientist, etc. When I met him he was 6' and 260.
I never salt my food and watched this guy unscrew the caps on salt shakers and dump it on his food.
He was diagnosed with high blood pressure. What did he do? started ordering all kinds of different salts from all over the world, celebrating the fact that he loved salt.
He could not walk up a single flight of stairs and acted like he would pass out if we had to walk more than 100 yards.
He ballooned up to 300 and finally (after his daughter was born) he had lap band surgery and lost over 100 lbs.
I told him I was proud of him and he said, "It doesn't matter."
Then he started eating fried chicken like it was going out of style, drinking 2 six packs a night, 2 pizzas all to himself, just as if he was trying to be defiant to everyone who warned him.
About a year later (if that) he was over 300 again.

Friend 2: About 5'9" and 250 when I met him, but he carried it well, had a cheerful personality and a healthy glow to his skin.
Then he got attacked by a homeless POS and was left for dead.
After that attack he got up to 450. He eats about 10 shitty meals a day KFC, Popeyes, Taco Bell, Truck stop Chinese food, buffets, etc. The more unhealthy the better!
His skin looks dull He wears the same outfit for weeks and dirty crocs.
His house is straight out of Hoarders: Buried Alive. His bathroom porcelain is black. He went from being a top ranked employee to being threatened with losing his job, his family doesn't see him anymore, his friends don't call. Hasn't had a girlfriend in over a decade.
He used to be a big deal with a social media app known for food reviews. He was the big Kahuna in his area and used to post hundreds of pics with him and these yound girls who thought he was a cute teddy bear. They started disinviting him because now he was like a smelly old fat guy who didn't practice basic hygiene.
He swears he's not diabetic while I've watched him just fall asleep at 7 pm and have no idea he is doing it.
I've tried doing an intervention with friends, etc. but no one else seems to care to help him. I can't do much being  in another state.
During Covid he caught it bad and actually passed out in his truck and when he missed a spot on his route; they found him by gps and rushed him to the ER. The docs told him he had died from heart failure but they brought him back to life. He was comatose for 5 days, too.
I thought that might have put the fear of God into him but nope. He keeps on with the same behavior.
Worst thing out of that was his sister went to his house and hauled away at least a 1,000-piece gun collection and several hundred custom knives and sold them out from under him because she thought he was dead.

I watched a guy slowly drink himself to death at the VFW.

He was there daily and gradually drank more and more as time went by. We tried to intervene and get him help, but he wouldn't do it. His life went downhill until Cirrhosis ended it.

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Neighbor killed himself with alcohol over the course of a few years, selfishly leaving behind a wife, and kids 9 and 12 right when they most needed a dad.

Broke my heart the other day, little boy was playing catch with himself in the front yard and tossed the ball to me after getting my attention getting out of the car.

My brother in law is dying from a heart ruined by nearly 50 years of recreational drug use. He is in a Dallas cardiac icu at death’s door.

He’s only 62. He looks more like late 80s.

Always has a reason for failures. Drug addiction. Felt he deserved a pass and sympathy because he’s an addict.

Basically a nice guy.  Will die owning 80 acres of land east of Dallas. Been living in a decaying Mobil home with his demented wife. Refused to sell a create a decent life for him and his wife because owning land made him important in his own mind.

He is on the verge of dying intestate. His wife’s blood sucking family will fight over what the lawyers don’t take.

had a heart attack at age 44.  when i woke up, doc says "you can keep smoking and probably be dead in 5 years, or quit and live another 50."

not only did i quit, nowadays i take vitamins and vegetables and shit.

I think I remember you posting that you had a heart attack - maybe like 6 or 8 years ago?  Didn't you used to have an avatar of a fish and a woman in a yellow raincoat?

Over 90 years old?  Well, apparently whatever they have done is WORKING.  Don't fix what ain't broke.  Who cares if they want to smoke.  After 90 years on this earth and the shit the world is doing now, can't blame them for smoking or leaving the oxygen tank in the car, they are probably ready to go.

I woke up sick probably a hundred times a year for more than a decade, so i guess that person is me.  But, don’t worry, I  stopped doubling down on it a while ago.

I think the root cause for most is addiction.  Drugs, food, alcohol, unhealthy behaviors… it takes many forms.  I still talk shit about addicts and say give them what they want, I don’t care.  But, being there myself, it makes me sad when I see addictions destroying what I’m sure are some legit, good people.

RN checking in here.
Saw it all the time when still worked the hospital.
See it still while pulling per Diem Home Health Hospice.
Choices have consequences.

My ex wife’s brother. Drank like a fish continually ignoring health issues. Died of cirrhosis at the age of 40. Dude was one of the most genuinely nice guys ever.

Not a mean drunk at all. More of a sloppy “I love you man” type drunk. One hell of a river guide as well.

A lifetime of living in Moab is very bad for one’s health.

The people mentioned here, and I know a few of them as well, are hardly "enjoying" themselves.

Interesting though, this is one of the most common retorts by said people. Not only are not enjoying themselves, they are a burden on everyone around them.

They are quick to bring up the mythological old man, women, whatever, that lived to be 100 while smoking 3 packs a day, meanwhile they can't even bathe themselves.

Yeah.

All the time.

With those pesky vegans.