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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:18:30 PM EDT
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Left is the side of your trunk you feel your heartbeat the strongest on.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:18:46 PM EDT
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Wat? Seriously. Have you ever picked up a fucking dictionary? How does a dictionary define words? HOLY SHIT, IS IT WITH OTHER WORDS!? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, if you are going to define something in terms of something else, then you need to know what the something else means. Otherwise, all you are doing is substituting different words for "right" and "left" without conveying any real meaning. Have you ever picked up a fucking dictionary? Yeah. If it is that easy then you should be done already. Wat? Seriously. Have you ever picked up a fucking dictionary? How does a dictionary define words? HOLY SHIT, IS IT WITH OTHER WORDS!? Yeah, actually, if you have checked, you will see that the dictionary definition would not be at all meaningful to a person from another planet. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you would assume that there is no way at all to communicate with them then. Right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you are looking at your compass and facing north the hand on the eastern side is your right, the hand on the western side is your left. The question was posed to try to figure out how to communicate the idea to people on another planet, so you would have to include some way that they could determine "north" the same way you do. No it wasn't. This and people on another planet wouldn't speak English so this thread is stupid. So you would assume that there is no way at all to communicate with them then. Right? What if they can't see or hear. How would you explain left and right through the sense of smell? |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:19:49 PM EDT
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The sun rises in the east and sets in the west (clockwise). As you face north. Which is the way a magnetized compass points. Facing north, your hand on the west side is your left. The hand on your east side is your right.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:20:13 PM EDT
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Why do they need to know which hand is left and right? What difference does it make? Well, for one thing, if we wanted to explain something as simple as screws to someone on another planet, we would need to know how. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:20:27 PM EDT
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Well then, if you are as smart as Gomer Pyle, I am sure you can explain it quite easily. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These aliens are receiving audio transmissions from another planet and it sounds like they somehow already understand most of our language and you're trying to teach them preschool stuff that even Gomer Pyle got by the second try? What's the intergalactic equivalent for "Ain't nobody got time for this?" Well then, if you are as smart as Gomer Pyle, I am sure you can explain it quite easily. Do I know where their planet is? Can I figure out what my galaxy looks like from their point of view? I think I can assume they know which galaxy is mine, it's the one where these signals are coming from. See the direction my galaxy appears to be rotating? That's either clockwise or counterclockwise. If they are somewhere on the disk of the Milky Way and can't see the rotation, I'll find one that is directly behind ours from their point of view. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:20:34 PM EDT
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Yeah, actually, if you have checked, you will see that the dictionary definition would not be at all meaningful to a person from another planet. You find me an asshole from another planet, and I'll explain to that asshole what left, right, and retarded propositions are. Go ahead. Find the alien. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:21:22 PM EDT
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... Oh, so you're changing the rules and moving goalposts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Left is 90* counter-clockwise from the direction one is facing; right is 90* clockwise from the direction one is facing. So what is this "clockwise" you speak of? ... Oh, so you're changing the rules and moving goalposts? NO. OP forgot to mention, the person you're asking doesn't own a watch, and can't tell time. 
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:21:26 PM EDT
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The sun rises in the east and sets in the west (clockwise). As you face north. Which is the way a magnetized compass points. Facing north, your hand on the west side is your left. The hand on your east side is your right. Already addressed. Assumes that a person on another planet knows what you mean by "north". |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:21:54 PM EDT
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NO. OP forgot to mention, the person you're asking doesn't own a watch, and can't tell time.
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Left is 90* counter-clockwise from the direction one is facing; right is 90* clockwise from the direction one is facing. So what is this "clockwise" you speak of? ... Oh, so you're changing the rules and moving goalposts? NO. OP forgot to mention, the person you're asking doesn't own a watch, and can't tell time.
They have a digital watch. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:22:50 PM EDT
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My post must have been too deep.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:23:56 PM EDT
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I will have to ask for your proof that no one involved in SETI research ever asked this question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are looking at your compass and facing north the hand on the eastern side is your right, the hand on the western side is your left. The question was posed to try to figure out how to communicate the idea to people on another planet, so you would have to include some way that they could determine "north" the same way you do. No it wasn't. I will have to ask for your proof that no one involved in SETI research ever asked this question. Non-sequitar. In English, that means you failed. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:24:04 PM EDT
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Do I know where their planet is? Can I figure out what my galaxy looks like from their point of view? I think I can assume they know which galaxy is mine, it's the one where these signals are coming from. See the direction my galaxy appears to be rotating? That's either clockwise or counterclockwise. If they are somewhere on the disk of the Milky Way and can't see the rotation, I'll find one that is directly behind ours from their point of view. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These aliens are receiving audio transmissions from another planet and it sounds like they somehow already understand most of our language and you're trying to teach them preschool stuff that even Gomer Pyle got by the second try? What's the intergalactic equivalent for "Ain't nobody got time for this?" Well then, if you are as smart as Gomer Pyle, I am sure you can explain it quite easily. Do I know where their planet is? Can I figure out what my galaxy looks like from their point of view? I think I can assume they know which galaxy is mine, it's the one where these signals are coming from. See the direction my galaxy appears to be rotating? That's either clockwise or counterclockwise. If they are somewhere on the disk of the Milky Way and can't see the rotation, I'll find one that is directly behind ours from their point of view. That is the best explanation so far, but . . . Assumes they would know which way your galaxy is rotating, which would make that impossible for almost all humans, and probably aliens, too. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:24:46 PM EDT
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You find me an asshole from another planet, and I'll explain to that asshole what left, right, and retarded propositions are. Go ahead. Find the alien. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, actually, if you have checked, you will see that the dictionary definition would not be at all meaningful to a person from another planet. You find me an asshole from another planet, and I'll explain to that asshole what left, right, and retarded propositions are. Go ahead. Find the alien. I think any such meeting is likely to be closer to a phone call first, rather than a shake-hands meeting. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:29:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:30:53 PM EDT
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That is the best explanation so far, but . . . Assumes they would know which way your galaxy is rotating, which would make that impossible for almost all humans, and probably aliens, too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These aliens are receiving audio transmissions from another planet and it sounds like they somehow already understand most of our language and you're trying to teach them preschool stuff that even Gomer Pyle got by the second try? What's the intergalactic equivalent for "Ain't nobody got time for this?" Well then, if you are as smart as Gomer Pyle, I am sure you can explain it quite easily. Do I know where their planet is? Can I figure out what my galaxy looks like from their point of view? I think I can assume they know which galaxy is mine, it's the one where these signals are coming from. See the direction my galaxy appears to be rotating? That's either clockwise or counterclockwise. If they are somewhere on the disk of the Milky Way and can't see the rotation, I'll find one that is directly behind ours from their point of view. That is the best explanation so far, but . . . Assumes they would know which way your galaxy is rotating, which would make that impossible for almost all humans, and probably aliens, too. 
I don't know which way this galaxy is actually rotating. But "Put your fingers on the outside and move them to the inside following the natural lines. That's clockwise." |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:30:59 PM EDT
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Extend both hands in front of you, palms forward and fingers spread. Close all fingers except index and thumb into your palm.
Whichever hand looks like a capital "L" is your Left hand, the other one is your right. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:33:43 PM EDT
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OP, we've established you disagree with the dictionary's definition of left and right. Would you say you identify as an illiterate, or would everyone say you're illiterate?
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:36:54 PM EDT
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He's not taking posts that meet his criteria and accomplish what it says in the OP.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:37:48 PM EDT
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Interlace you fingers so that it feels natural. The thumb on top is attached to your left hand. Bullshit, you're a mutant. Why would your dominant hand not be gripping ? |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:39:11 PM EDT
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Well, for one thing, if we wanted to explain something as simple as screws to someone on another planet, we would need to know how. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do they need to know which hand is left and right? What difference does it make? Well, for one thing, if we wanted to explain something as simple as screws to someone on another planet, we would need to know how. Now we're back to clockwise to tighten and counterclockwise to loosen. Instead of those words we could describe angular displacement. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:40:09 PM EDT
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Face the sun coming up, right is South, left is North.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:41:19 PM EDT
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Now we're back to clockwise to tighten and counterclockwise to loosen. Instead of those words we could describe angular displacement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do they need to know which hand is left and right? What difference does it make? Well, for one thing, if we wanted to explain something as simple as screws to someone on another planet, we would need to know how. Now we're back to clockwise to tighten and counterclockwise to loosen. Instead of those words we could describe angular displacement. I hate to be the one to point this out, but not everything is threaded the same way. Some things are lefty-tighty.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:42:05 PM EDT
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Face the sun coming up, right is South, left is North. WHAT IF YOU'RE ON THE NORTH POLE!?!?!? Oh the humanity! |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:43:35 PM EDT
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Hold index finger and thumb straight out. Hand that makes the letter L is your left. You're welcome, cleverly-disguised OP trying to figure out which way is which.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:45:17 PM EDT
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Here is a good write up of what the OP was trying to convey...
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/degrees-of-freedom/handedness-galactic-challenge/ |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:46:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Extend both hands in front of you, palms forward and fingers spread. Close all fingers except index and thumb into your palm. Whichever hand looks like a capital "L" is your Left hand, the other one is your right. And they know what a Latin alphabet English capital "L" looks like |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:46:45 PM EDT
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Extend both hands in front of you, palms forward and fingers spread. Close all fingers except index and thumb into your palm. Whichever hand looks like a capital "L" is your Left hand, the other one is your right. Sorry, these aliens don't have fingers.... or eyes, or ears, or fins, or anything. In fact, you're going to have to explain this like you would an Amoeba. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand go. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:46:56 PM EDT
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WHAT IF YOU'RE ON THE NORTH POLE!?!?!? Oh the humanity! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Face the sun coming up, right is South, left is North. WHAT IF YOU'RE ON THE NORTH POLE!?!?!? Oh the humanity! Or if it is dark. What will we do if it is dark! |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:47:40 PM EDT
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Hold up both your hands thumbs facing each other. The hand where the finger and thumb make an "L" shape is the left hand.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:48:14 PM EDT
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No, actually, that was the kind of thing I expected first. If you have ever played this game, you know that next you have to explain "clockwise". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Left is 90* counter-clockwise from the direction one is facing; right is 90* clockwise from the direction one is facing.  This did not go the way OP expected.No, actually, that was the kind of thing I expected first. If you have ever played this game, you know that next you have to explain "clockwise". Well then every word had to be explained. "Direction" "One" "Facing" And so on... |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:48:45 PM EDT
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Came to post this with the assumption that the digits on the hand are similar to ours; i.e. they have opposable thumbs And they know what an English capital "L" looks like Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Extend both hands in front of you, palms forward and fingers spread. Close all fingers except index and thumb into your palm. Whichever hand looks like a capital "L" is your Left hand, the other one is your right. And they know what an English capital "L" looks like Mexicans have opposable thumbs and the letter L is the same in Spanish 
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:49:42 PM EDT
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What if the whole species is ambidextrous and couldn't give a fuck about left vs right?
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:51:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mexicans have opposable thumbs and the letter L is the same in Spanish Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Extend both hands in front of you, palms forward and fingers spread. Close all fingers except index and thumb into your palm. Whichever hand looks like a capital "L" is your Left hand, the other one is your right. And they know what an English capital "L" looks like Mexicans have opposable thumbs and the letter L is the same in Spanish |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:51:40 PM EDT
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Interlace you fingers so that it feels natural. The thumb on top is attached to your left hand. Not for me.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what is this "clockwise" you speak of? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Left is 90* counter-clockwise from the direction one is facing; right is 90* clockwise from the direction one is facing. So what is this "clockwise" you speak of? Tincidunt tortor blandit ornare duis malesuada habitant, lorem conubia odio amet tempus mauris dictum, platea euismod ultricies lacus blandit dapibus molestie aenean eu fermentum dui imperdiet dapibus quis aliquam, dictumst ad at justo conubia volutpat felis quam, ante curabitur neque tempor inceptos quisque nostra volutpat nec nostra vulputate erat venenatis nec at habitant, porta rhoncus enim donec nisi posuere nec lacus, quam torquent mattis et hendrerit dictumst varius nisl posuere venenatis neque lobortis dolor molestie aliquet tempus donec in, ullamcorper vehicula nunc massa condimentum pharetra potenti. 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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:54:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: Using nothing but words you can type, explain the concept of left and right (as in hands, not politics) such that any reader of your words would know which hand was their left and which was their right. In doing so, you cannot refer to the way in which the language is displayed on the screen. Your explanation will have to work even if the words are only spoken, or if the reader was reading it in some other language that didn't go left to right. Find North by using any of several methods. Facing North, right is the direction from which the sun rises. Left is the direction where it sets. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:54:47 PM EDT
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Left is port and right is starboard
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:55:20 PM EDT
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What if the whole species is ambidextrous and couldn't give a fuck about left vs right? We sent them a case of beer with a screw-top lid. We have to tell them how to open it. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:56:19 PM EDT
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We sent them a case of beer with a screw-top lid. We have to tell them how to open it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What if the whole species is ambidextrous and couldn't give a fuck about left vs right? We sent them a case of beer with a screw-top lid. We have to tell them how to open it. Trick question. We would never send a beer with a screw-top cap to aliens. We would send them good beer. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We sent them a case of beer with a screw-top lid. We have to tell them how to open it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What if the whole species is ambidextrous and couldn't give a fuck about left vs right? We sent them a case of beer with a screw-top lid. We have to tell them how to open it. /thread |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (Look At) CROSS (Up) Boom, bitches.  I was assuming vector math would be denied. Also, depends on handedness of your coordinate systems. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 8:57:19 PM EDT
[#43]
If you draw an imaginary line vertcally to "split" your body, the side with your heart is your left side, the side without it is your right side.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:01:18 PM EDT
[#44]
I have to assume they dont know what a watch is, the sun, heart etc. but they can read English?
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:01:32 PM EDT
[#45]
Get a compass. Face north. Where the sun rises is your right side. Where the sun sets is your left side.
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:03:25 PM EDT
[#46]
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I don't feel like wasting my time because you're going to have some dumb response, but I'd say left is the side of your body that has your heart (from your perspective). Most people don't know the heart is slightly to the left in the vast majority of people. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:10:21 PM EDT
[#47]
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I have to assume they dont know what a watch is, the sun, heart etc. but they can read English? For purposes of possibly communicating with someone from another planet -- yes. Or, at least we have found a common language, such as math, that allows us to communicate meaning. |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:10:41 PM EDT
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Came to post this with the assumption that the digits on the hand are similar to ours; i.e. they have opposable thumbs And they know what a Latin alphabet English capital "L" looks like Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Extend both hands in front of you, palms forward and fingers spread. Close all fingers except index and thumb into your palm. Whichever hand looks like a capital "L" is your Left hand, the other one is your right. And they know what a Latin alphabet English capital "L" looks like Not concerned with aliens until I see and attempt to communicate with them. No one has any idea what we'll be working with. For all we know any sentient aliens we find will be trilaterally symmetrical and have no possible concept of "left" or "right". Their sensory package may include sensitivity to pressure waves and magnetic fields, and the concept of "visible light" may have no meaning whatsoever for them. OPs question is not hypothetical, it is empty and meaningless. Edit: Missing words, grammar |
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:10:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2015 9:12:31 PM EDT
[#50]
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For purposes of possibly communicating with someone from another planet -- yes. Or, at least we have found a common language, such as math, that allows us to communicate meaning. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have to assume they dont know what a watch is, the sun, heart etc. but they can read English? For purposes of possibly communicating with someone from another planet -- yes. Or, at least we have found a common language, such as math, that allows us to communicate meaning. Perfect, so math is universal now? Not a human construct? Then you'll agree that (ETA: counter-)clockwise, as fucking mentioned earlier, can be demonstrated on a coordinate plane by rotating from zero degrees to any positive angle. Now that clockwise is back on your bullshit table, we can use it as explained in the first response. Done. |
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