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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:08:41 PM EDT
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You don't "give any fucks" that they knowingly provided products with severe defects to troops that were going into harms way? Their employees readily acknowledged these concerns, yet they were swept under the rug by their president for nearly a decade. Their president even fired the co-founder of the company who appeared to be constantly pressuring him to disclose these issues to Crane, presumably because of those actions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm looking everywhere for my fucks to give. Still haven't found any... You don't "give any fucks" that they knowingly provided products with severe defects to troops that were going into harms way? Their employees readily acknowledged these concerns, yet they were swept under the rug by their president for nearly a decade. Their president even fired the co-founder of the company who appeared to be constantly pressuring him to disclose these issues to Crane, presumably because of those actions. Yeah, if only they had just sold defective products to private users and used the proceeds of those sales to provide top notch merchandise to .gov contracts they would have been ok. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:25:50 PM EDT
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Lol... white knighting. I didn't even report being threatened. And, I never said he was a scam artist, nice jump in (pseudo) logic there. I said it was an exploitation of the situation. Nice try though.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's cool. I used the report for the first time ever. You called out another member first as a scam artist and then was asked by multiple people to stop trashing this thread. http://rlv.zcache.com/no_one_likes_a_tattle_tale_basic_round_button_keychain-rfd24056531a84c8a867e1d407fa32ca3_x7j3z_8byvr_324.jpg Lol... white knighting. I didn't even report being threatened. And, I never said he was a scam artist, nice jump in (pseudo) logic there. I said it was an exploitation of the situation. Nice try though. I don't like tattle tails either but I don't want this thread locked. Conspiro you don't call out members as scam artists when they aren't scamming anyone. Why do you think you where threatened? You called out a member. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:39:08 PM EDT
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I don't like tattle tails either but I don't want this thread locked. Conspiro you don't call out members as scam artists when they aren't scamming anyone. Why do you think you where threatened? You called out a member. Dude, where did I call anyone a scam artist? I have a differing opinion on the ethics of sending in optics that are more than a decade old with no problems, but that is discussion about ethics. Nowhere did I say or even insinuate that anybody was a scam artist. You fabricated that. It was purely a debate about ethics. As for threatening, when a person makes a veiled threat of "unless you want to say that to my face, then we can work it out" ... that's a veiled threat. But I didn't report it, because I didn't take it seriously because I doubt the dude is going to come all the way to Alaska to "work it out" with me. And if he did, he's got bigger problems if a debate on the internet compelled him to travel here to "work it out" with me. Hence, I didn't report it. As I've said before, I don't debate the validity of the claims or of people sending in their optics for refunds if they're damaged, or even if new, but some people are taking it a bit too far, in my opinion. That this pisses people off so much really shows that some people are a little too emotionally invested in this subject, which is puzzling. I mentioned the only optic I've ever had fail on me, in negative degree weather, was an Aimpoint. Subsequently, their customer service failed me at the time, and that was when I decided to give Eotech a try. If mine fail, I'll probably get in line, just like everybody else. I'll give them the opportunity to fix it (just like I did with Aimpoint) and if they don't make good on it, I'll move on. No love lost, no love gained. To me, and this is strictly opinion, I wouldn't put my faith in any optic the relies solely on batteries to function at all. That's an entirely other debate, though. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:47:25 PM EDT
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Dude, where did I call anyone a scam artist? I have a differing opinion on the ethics of sending in optics that are more than a decade old with no problems, but that is discussion about ethics. Nowhere did I say or even insinuate that anybody was a scam artist. You fabricated that. It was purely a debate about ethics. As for threatening, when a person makes a veiled threat of "unless you want to say that to my face, then we can work it out" ... that's a veiled threat. But I didn't report it, because I didn't take it seriously because I doubt the dude is going to come all the way to Alaska to "work it out" with me. And if he did, he's got bigger problems if a debate on the internet compelled him to travel here to "work it out" with me. Hence, I didn't report it. As I've said before, I don't debate the validity of the claims or of people sending in their optics for refunds if they're damaged, or even if new, but some people are taking it a bit too far, in my opinion. That this pisses people off so much really shows that some people are a little too emotionally invested in this subject, which is puzzling. I mentioned the only optic I've ever had fail on me, in negative degree weather, was an Aimpoint. Subsequently, their customer service failed me at the time, and that was when I decided to give Eotech a try. If mine fail, I'll probably get in line, just like everybody else. I'll give them the opportunity to fix it (just like I did with Aimpoint) and if they don't make good on it, I'll move on. No love lost, no love gained. To me, and this is strictly opinion, I wouldn't put my faith in any optic the relies solely on batteries to function at all. That's an entirely other debate, though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like tattle tails either but I don't want this thread locked. Conspiro you don't call out members as scam artists when they aren't scamming anyone. Why do you think you where threatened? You called out a member. Dude, where did I call anyone a scam artist? I have a differing opinion on the ethics of sending in optics that are more than a decade old with no problems, but that is discussion about ethics. Nowhere did I say or even insinuate that anybody was a scam artist. You fabricated that. It was purely a debate about ethics. As for threatening, when a person makes a veiled threat of "unless you want to say that to my face, then we can work it out" ... that's a veiled threat. But I didn't report it, because I didn't take it seriously because I doubt the dude is going to come all the way to Alaska to "work it out" with me. And if he did, he's got bigger problems if a debate on the internet compelled him to travel here to "work it out" with me. Hence, I didn't report it. As I've said before, I don't debate the validity of the claims or of people sending in their optics for refunds if they're damaged, or even if new, but some people are taking it a bit too far, in my opinion. That this pisses people off so much really shows that some people are a little too emotionally invested in this subject, which is puzzling. I mentioned the only optic I've ever had fail on me, in negative degree weather, was an Aimpoint. Subsequently, their customer service failed me at the time, and that was when I decided to give Eotech a try. If mine fail, I'll probably get in line, just like everybody else. I'll give them the opportunity to fix it (just like I did with Aimpoint) and if they don't make good on it, I'll move on. No love lost, no love gained. To me, and this is strictly opinion, I wouldn't put my faith in any optic the relies solely on batteries to function at all. That's an entirely other debate, though. Why do you think you where threatened and called names? Do you think I had to do with your rei boot post?Go re read it. I thought it was a dick post and derailing the thread and it wasn't even addressed to me. It's not a matter of how old his optic. mine is 3 years old and I don't trust it either. His 14 year old optic May last 20 years longer but no one trusts eotech what so ever. We all want the $400-$600 quality optic we paid for. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:47:28 PM EDT
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Just sent my RMA request for two EXPS3's with a 2013 manufacture date. We shall see.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:48:05 PM EDT
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I'm curious about the delay in approving the requests. Still waiting for mine.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:49:19 PM EDT
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I would love to see a pic of the pile of returned EOTechs. I'm betting it would rival the pic Mark LaRue posted of all the broken ARMS mounts he took in trade toward LaRue mounts way back when. 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:55:07 PM EDT
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Why do you think you where threatened and called names? Do you think I had to do with your rei boot post?Go re read it. I thought it was a dick post and derailing the thread and it wasn't even addressed to me. It's not a matter of how old his optic. mine is 3 years old and I don't trust it either. His 14 year old optic May last 20 years longer but no one trusts eotech what so ever. We all want the $400-$600 quality optic we paid for. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh... LOL (At myself) 
I'm going to go ahead and apologize. You, and he, meant a post about boots, not a boot (used as an adjective) post. "Boot," is a term used for new recruits that don't know shit. Reading this before coffee, forgetting the exact REI post, I read it as you calling me a "boot" ... so, for that, I apologize. That said, the veiled threat is still valid, it's pretty clear from what he typed. We can agree to disagree on 14 year old optics, getting MSRP in return. Basically, as he said earlier in the thread, a "free rental"
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:55:22 PM EDT
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Hey, how about you two shut the fuck up so this thread stays open. No one gives a fuck what either of you think.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:55:34 PM EDT
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:01:32 PM EDT
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Email sent to their customer support guys on 6 Dec, just got an email authorizing the return on 8 Dec. Details to follow as this moves forward.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:03:16 PM EDT
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Hey, how about you two shut the fuck up so this thread stays open. No one gives a fuck what either of you think. C'mon, you gotta admit, the amount of sequins flying off their purses is impressive. 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:04:00 PM EDT
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You guys shipping them, are you shipping hard case and all or just the sight? No hard case with my 553, just the box and the styro. insert that came with it. Took pics before I shipped it off as a CYA measure if there are any shenanigans. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:05:24 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:06:03 PM EDT
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You guys shipping them, are you shipping hard case and all or just the sight? Shipped mine with everything OEM: box, Allen wrenches, etc. Call me a softie but if they're willing to pay me back I figure they should get everything back. Hell, I included a copy of hte original receipt, too. 
ETA - Cool Avatar. Great movie
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:07:06 PM EDT
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Like Chevrolet? 
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How can people defend a product when the manufacturer of said products has said all of their products of this category are broken and do not work as intended? Like Chevrolet?
What about Toyota? Or VW? 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:07:39 PM EDT
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:09:23 PM EDT
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I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:10:02 PM EDT
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Looks like refunds only. I don't think they know how to fix them permanently. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So are they offering repairs or just refunds? Sorry if it's been covered.
PS: What's the MSRP on a 552? Looks like refunds only. I don't think they know how to fix them permanently. Nope, No permanent fix has been found in almost a decade so I guess there isn't one to be had. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:12:28 PM EDT
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I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. Yeah I like the EO reticle much more than the standard dot. I really hate this whole situation. On the receipt, I hope that's not an issue. Mine was gifted to me so I'm sure the receipt is long gone. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:13:32 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:15:19 PM EDT
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As I've said before, I don't debate the validity of the claims or of people sending in their optics for refunds if they're damaged, or even if new, but some people are taking it a bit too far, in my opinion. That this pisses people off so much really shows that some people are a little too emotionally invested in this subject, which is puzzling. Quote HistoryQuoted:
As I've said before, I don't debate the validity of the claims or of people sending in their optics for refunds if they're damaged, or even if new, but some people are taking it a bit too far, in my opinion. That this pisses people off so much really shows that some people are a little too emotionally invested in this subject, which is puzzling. With all due respect, don't you think that's up to L3 to decide? After all they are the ones actively approving or denying the claims. They aren't just rubber stamping claims either, I've seen some people say they were denied. L3 is being being given manufacture dates, serial numbers, and are apparently reimbursing up to MSRP so it would seem they have plenty of information to decide if they want to approve or deny the claim. I understand where you're coming from but since it really does come down to L3 approving or denying the claim, it would seem that all any discussion about whether anyone is "right" or "wrong" to file a claim is just increasing the signal to noise ratio in an otherwise important thread especially since you don't have the internal manufacturing data that the people approving or denying claims do. Just my opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it. Quoted:
I'm curious about the delay in approving the requests. Still waiting for mine. I don't think they have many people working on fielding them because they didn't bank on this blowing up on social media the way it has. I think of the approved RMAs I've seen shared there has only been 2 L3 employees' names signing them. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:15:50 PM EDT
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I'd order a T2 right on the spot. Sent my EOTech back today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would love to see a pic of the pile of returned EOTechs. I'm betting it would rival the pic Mark LaRue posted of all the broken ARMS mounts he took in trade toward LaRue mounts way back when.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:16:59 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. No idea. Dan L. the consumer specialist guy, requested a receipt from me. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:17:34 PM EDT
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh... LOL (At myself)
I'm going to go ahead and apologize. You, and he, meant a post about boots, not a boot (used as an adjective) post. "Boot," is a term used for new recruits that don't know shit. Reading this before coffee, forgetting the exact REI post, I read it as you calling me a "boot" ... so, for that, I apologize. That said, the veiled threat is still valid, it's pretty clear from what he typed. We can agree to disagree on 14 year old optics, getting MSRP in return. Basically, as he said earlier in the thread, a "free rental"
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Why do you think you where threatened and called names? Do you think I had to do with your rei boot post?Go re read it. I thought it was a dick post and derailing the thread and it wasn't even addressed to me. It's not a matter of how old his optic. mine is 3 years old and I don't trust it either. His 14 year old optic May last 20 years longer but no one trusts eotech what so ever. We all want the $400-$600 quality optic we paid for. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh... LOL (At myself)
I'm going to go ahead and apologize. You, and he, meant a post about boots, not a boot (used as an adjective) post. "Boot," is a term used for new recruits that don't know shit. Reading this before coffee, forgetting the exact REI post, I read it as you calling me a "boot" ... so, for that, I apologize. That said, the veiled threat is still valid, it's pretty clear from what he typed. We can agree to disagree on 14 year old optics, getting MSRP in return. Basically, as he said earlier in the thread, a "free rental"
I try to talk to people on the internet as I would in real life. It keeps things more civil so we can keep at the topic on hand that is hating on the shitbirds at eotech. I'm just wondering how many on here plan on keeping their eotechs. The reasons I haven't sent it in yet is because my only eotech resides on a range gun. My other fear is eotech approves all these returns and then does not pay out. Then I have no money or no shitty optic that wanders at high and low temperatures |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:17:39 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. How old is yours? Model? How much you ask back for it? I have seen some people say they were also asked for receipts, told them they didn't have them, and were told to go ahead and send them in anyway. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:18:32 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:18:46 PM EDT
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Do y'all know if the Law Guns 553 / SU-231s are eligible for this? I highly doubt it, but though I'd ask.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:19:53 PM EDT
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I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. You guys that like the EOTech reticle might want to check out the Meprolight M21. It has a "Bull's Eye" reticle that is very similar to the EOTech's. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:20:16 PM EDT
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How old is yours? Model? How much you ask back for it? I have seen some people say they were also asked for receipts, told them they didn't have them, and were told to go ahead and send them in anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. How old is yours? Model? How much you ask back for it? I have seen some people say they were also asked for receipts, told them they didn't have them, and were told to go ahead and send them in anyway. 553 2012 manufacture date. I asked for what I paid, I had my receipt. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:21:49 PM EDT
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Do y'all know if the Law Guns 553 / SU-231s are eligible for this? I highly doubt it, but though I'd ask. I think I saw one user earlier in this thread or the other say he sent in an RMA and, I want to say, was approved. Don't hold me to that as I can't be 100% sure without looking it up. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:22:07 PM EDT
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. You guys that like the EOTech reticle might want to check out the Meprolight M21. It has a "Bull's Eye" reticle that is very similar to the EOTech's. Is that the Israeli one they put on Tavors? |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:23:20 PM EDT
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I think I saw one user earlier in this thread or the other say he sent in an RMA and, I want to say, was approved. Don't hold me to that as I can't be 100% sure without looking it up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do y'all know if the Law Guns 553 / SU-231s are eligible for this? I highly doubt it, but though I'd ask. I think I saw one user earlier in this thread or the other say he sent in an RMA and, I want to say, was approved. Don't hold me to that as I can't be 100% sure without looking it up. Thanks |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:23:39 PM EDT
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With all due respect, don't you think that's up to L3 to decide? After all they are the ones actively approving or denying the claims. They aren't just rubber stamping claims either, I've seen some people say they were denied. L3 is being being given manufacture dates, serial numbers, and are apparently reimbursing up to MSRP so it would seem they have plenty of information to decide if they want to approve or deny the claim. I understand where you're coming from but since it really does come down to L3 approving or denying the claim, it would seem that all any discussion about whether anyone is "right" or "wrong" to file a claim is just increasing the signal to noise ratio in an otherwise important thread especially since you don't have the internal manufacturing data that the people approving or denying claims do. Just my opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
With all due respect, don't you think that's up to L3 to decide? After all they are the ones actively approving or denying the claims. They aren't just rubber stamping claims either, I've seen some people say they were denied. L3 is being being given manufacture dates, serial numbers, and are apparently reimbursing up to MSRP so it would seem they have plenty of information to decide if they want to approve or deny the claim. I understand where you're coming from but since it really does come down to L3 approving or denying the claim, it would seem that all any discussion about whether anyone is "right" or "wrong" to file a claim is just increasing the signal to noise ratio in an otherwise important thread especially since you don't have the internal manufacturing data that the people approving or denying claims do. Just my opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it. Quoted:
I try to talk to people on the internet as I would in real life. It keeps things more civil so we can keep at the topic on hand that is hating on the shitbirds at eotech. I'm just wondering how many on here plan on keeping their eotechs. The reasons I haven't sent it in yet is because my only eotech resides on a range gun. My other fear is eotech approves all these returns and then does not pay out. Then I have no money or no shitty optic that wanders at high and low temperatures I respect both of these responses, and will bow out of the dialogue to lower the signal to noise ratio. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:24:05 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. How old is yours? Model? How much you ask back for it? I have seen some people say they were also asked for receipts, told them they didn't have them, and were told to go ahead and send them in anyway. 553 2012 manufacture date. I asked for what I paid, I had my receipt. Gotcha. Was just trying to figure out if it was because it was too new or the reimbursement price was too high or some combination. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:24:34 PM EDT
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. You guys that like the EOTech reticle might want to check out the Meprolight M21. It has a "Bull's Eye" reticle that is very similar to the EOTech's. Is that the Israeli one they put on Tavors? Yep! |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:24:43 PM EDT
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What's the MSRP of an EoTech 557?
I think I paid like $550 for it, but not sure. I definitely don't have the receipt. Bought it in 2008 and it's long gone. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:25:19 PM EDT
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I got a reply today and sent mine in. They asked for a receipt. https://media.giphy.com/media/I5xVnGJRHZZf2/giphy.gif "Thank you for contacting EOTech. In order to process your refund request we will need you to supply the amount you are requesting. Also, the place of purchase and a receipt, if available. Please attach it to this existing request and forward it back to complete this request so we may proceed in reviewing your request." |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:26:01 PM EDT
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I try to talk to people on the internet as I would in real life. It keeps things more civil so we can keep at the topic on hand that is hating on the shitbirds at eotech. I'm just wondering how many on here plan on keeping their eotechs. The reasons I haven't sent it in yet is because my only eotech resides on a range gun. My other fear is eotech approves all these returns and then does not pay out. Then I have no money or no shitty optic that wanders at high and low temperatures Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why do you think you where threatened and called names? Do you think I had to do with your rei boot post?Go re read it. I thought it was a dick post and derailing the thread and it wasn't even addressed to me. It's not a matter of how old his optic. mine is 3 years old and I don't trust it either. His 14 year old optic May last 20 years longer but no one trusts eotech what so ever. We all want the $400-$600 quality optic we paid for. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh... LOL (At myself)
I'm going to go ahead and apologize. You, and he, meant a post about boots, not a boot (used as an adjective) post. "Boot," is a term used for new recruits that don't know shit. Reading this before coffee, forgetting the exact REI post, I read it as you calling me a "boot" ... so, for that, I apologize. That said, the veiled threat is still valid, it's pretty clear from what he typed. We can agree to disagree on 14 year old optics, getting MSRP in return. Basically, as he said earlier in the thread, a "free rental"
I try to talk to people on the internet as I would in real life. It keeps things more civil so we can keep at the topic on hand that is hating on the shitbirds at eotech. I'm just wondering how many on here plan on keeping their eotechs. The reasons I haven't sent it in yet is because my only eotech resides on a range gun. My other fear is eotech approves all these returns and then does not pay out. Then I have no money or no shitty optic that wanders at high and low temperatures Thought the same thing myself but figured I had to roll the dice anyways since my options were to hold onto it even with the reticle showing signs of the delamination issue and it already having been sent back once due to loss of nitrogen purge rendering the reticle useless in daylight. I had moved on to Aimpoint and the EOTech was on the SO's rifle and hadn't been out of the safe since it was repaired in '13 and it was showing signs of the reticle dimming in any position but dead center of the viewing window when I checked it after seeing this thread.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:30:02 PM EDT
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Arfcom told me Eotechs were just as durable as Aimpoints though.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:30:30 PM EDT
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You guys that like the EOTech reticle might want to check out the Meprolight M21. It has a "Bull's Eye" reticle that is very similar to the EOTech's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. You guys that like the EOTech reticle might want to check out the Meprolight M21. It has a "Bull's Eye" reticle that is very similar to the EOTech's. It's what I'm considering. A friend has a couple of them. My only hesitation is over the tritium only lasting 15yrs, then you have to have it replaced or rely on just the fiber optic part of the unit to light the reticle. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:34:06 PM EDT
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If this snowballs, there is no way a company can give back retail for something sold to a middleman for wholesale in any reasonable quantity. No way!
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:36:12 PM EDT
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It's what I'm considering. A friend has a couple of them. My only hesitation is over the tritium only lasting 15yrs, then you have to have it replaced or rely on just the fiber optic part of the unit to light the reticle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Submitted my RMA a couple hours ago on my EXPS 2. Planning on going with a T-1 (I think) once the refund makes it back. I have a T-2 Micro, and I like the EOtech reticle better. I'm kinda torn here with this whole thing, I sent mine back for a refund. I never had a problem with mine. I like the EOTech reticle, too. Thing is, mine has already been back for fixing after it took a shit on me during a carbine class. At this point, if I can get my full refund on a refirb’d unit, it’d be foolish not to. You guys that like the EOTech reticle might want to check out the Meprolight M21. It has a "Bull's Eye" reticle that is very similar to the EOTech's. It's what I'm considering. A friend has a couple of them. My only hesitation is over the tritium only lasting 15yrs, then you have to have it replaced or rely on just the fiber optic part of the unit to light the reticle. The Mepro has an add-on LED module called a WOR (Wash Out Reducer) that you can use to illuminate it as well. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:44:08 PM EDT
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Eotech just received my EXPS2-0 today (I jumped on this whole thing Friday; manufactured on February 2014). I have my original receipt that I showed them in my initial inquiry email to CS and included a photocopy of it in the box. I will let you all know if I get an email saying the check is in the mail or if it shows up.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:46:44 PM EDT
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Even with the full refund, I'm really bummed about this. My EXPS3 has been awesome, no issues at all. A week ago I would have told you it was by far the best optic on the market. Anyway, off it goes...
Buying a new site is supposed to be fun, but I expect this to be a very disappointing purchase.  |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:50:24 PM EDT
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Even with the full refund, I'm really bummed about this. My EXPS3 has been awesome, no issues at all. A week ago I would have told you it was by far the best optic on the market. Anyway, off it goes... Buying a new site is supposed to be fun, but I expect this to be a very disappointing purchase.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:54:46 PM EDT
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I will have to see if I can find the receipt for my 512 and then figure out what to do with my Larue mount for it. :/
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Posted: 12/8/2015 3:58:37 PM EDT
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I sent my request in on my 512 and 551. I received confirmation on the 551 but not the 512. I've emailed them asking about the 512, no answer yet.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 4:00:24 PM EDT
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Pawn shop owner to new guy walking in ...
"Let me guess, you want EOTechs and broken Craftsman tools."
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