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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:35:14 PM EDT
[#1]
I just ordered a quadcopter off Amazon.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:36:09 PM EDT
[#2]
So is this new registration just for quadcopters.......or will I have to register all of my RC planes and Helicopters also???
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  Wait, so does that make model rockets missiles now?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So if I build a scale model Minuteman III, does that mean all the independent reentry vehicles have to be registered too? Off to call the FAA! Wait, so does that make model rockets missiles now? Everyone register each individual bottle rocket come July. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So is this new registration just for quadcopters.......or will I have to register all of my RC planes and Helicopters also??? ALL R/C aircraft   |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:41:37 PM EDT
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There were plenty in GD begging for the government to do something about those pesky drones I was not one of them, but mostly this is due to the DJI Phantom operators. Nearly every incident of a drone/multicopter violating restricted airspace, or flying into buildings in NYC have been phantoms. Irresponsibility and total disregard for safety and privacy seem to come in every DJI box. I don't think it has a lot to do with terrorism necessarily. Why bother with a drone carrying a pound of explosives , when the jihadis can find some idiot kid to put on a vest with 50 lbs of explosives and ball bearings, and walk right up to the target? If it comes to paying for this, I will not. Why, when my RC model will eventually reverse itself into a pile of balsa sticks or shards of foam? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:44:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Good luck with that, it's not enforceable and will be roundly ignored.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:45:37 PM EDT
[#7]
I'll get right on that.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:45:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:45:55 PM EDT
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Thinking about this....since I do most of flying in local parks and fields at the local high/middle schools, I will probably cave and register my 2 planes.
Call it what you want, but I would rather register while free, than get fucked by some JBT.
Ill do what I can with my local AMA to fight this. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:46:30 PM EDT
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So is this new registration just for quadcopters.......or will I have to register all of my RC planes and Helicopters also??? All of them unless they weigh less than 0.55 LBS. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:46:55 PM EDT
[#11]
What do I do if I sell one of my R/C aircraft to someone else? How do I transfer my numbers.
Should it have to go through an R/C aircraft dealer? Close the R/C aircraft loophole. 
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:48:28 PM EDT
[#12]
I think some of you guys are missing the upside to all of this. I'm a recognized pilot now! Chicks dig pilots!
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:50:00 PM EDT
[#13]
Will not comply.... I don't have a drone though
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:50:46 PM EDT
[#14]
all those fuckers with drones ruined it, like people that open carry
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:51:38 PM EDT
[#15]
I believe I heard them say it was only $5 to register. I guarantee you they're spending more on this program than they'll be taking in.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:52:48 PM EDT
[#16]
They let terrorists in the country but make good citizens have to register. Fucking unbelievable.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:53:01 PM EDT
[#17]
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I think some of you guys are missing the upside to all of this. I'm a recognized pilot now! Chicks dig pilots! the arfcom store needs to carry aviator jackets now! |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:54:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=19856 WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) today announced a streamlined and user-friendly web-based aircraft registration process for owners of small unmanned aircraft (UAS) weighing more than 0.55 pounds (250 grams) and less than 55 pounds (approx. 25 kilograms) including payloads such as on-board cameras. ... Registration is a statutory requirement that applies to all aircraft. Under this rule, any owner of a small UAS who has previously operated an unmanned aircraft exclusively as a model aircraft prior to December 21, 2015, must register no later than February 19, 2016. Owners of any other UAS purchased for use as a model aircraft after December 21, 2015 must register before the first flight outdoors. Owners may use either the paper-based process or the new streamlined, web-based system. Owners using the new streamlined web-based system must be at least 13 years old to register. Yay more gov regulation  Edited to add... The FAA estimates that in calendar year 2014, 200,000 small unmanned aircraft were operated in the NAS in model aircraft operations. During this period, the FAA received 238 reports of potentially unsafe UAS operations. In order to implement the new streamlined, web-based system described in this IFR, the FAA will incur costs to develop, implement, and maintain the system. Small UAS operators will require time to register and mark their aircraft, and that time has a cost. The total of government and registrant resource cost for small unmanned aircraft registration and marking under this new system is $56 million ($46 million present value at 7 percent) through 2020. Many of us use foam board to creat disposable air frames and reuse electronics for things like air combat and experimental designs. Now your saying if I cut 4 pieces of foam and slap electronics on it, I have to "register it" with the government to go crash it in a derby?.. FUCK THAT. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:54:51 PM EDT
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The same way they and every other agency enforce our draconian laws: wait until you pop up on their radar and then strike. Maybe your neighbor is mad your dog pissed on their lawn and they report you. Maybe they investigate you for a crime you had nothing to do with and they see this by chance. Maybe you post a video on face book or pictures of your brand new X and sitting in the background is something some bureaucrat sees in between porn viewing sessions and investigates. On and on it goes. That's what makes these laws so brilliant and terrifying: they can't get everyone but they can absolutely destroy us should the right people take an interest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And if I build my own, never register it, and only fly it responsibly and never cause any problems... how are they going to know? The same way they and every other agency enforce our draconian laws: wait until you pop up on their radar and then strike. Maybe your neighbor is mad your dog pissed on their lawn and they report you. Maybe they investigate you for a crime you had nothing to do with and they see this by chance. Maybe you post a video on face book or pictures of your brand new X and sitting in the background is something some bureaucrat sees in between porn viewing sessions and investigates. On and on it goes. That's what makes these laws so brilliant and terrifying: they can't get everyone but they can absolutely destroy us should the right people take an interest. Exactly this. And it will never stop until everything is controlled. 
Death by a thousand laws,rules,registrations,regulations,licenses,etc..... |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:57:18 PM EDT
[#20]
Fox is doing a segment of this coming up after the commercial right now.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:57:47 PM EDT
[#21]
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the arfcom store needs to carry aviator jackets now! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think some of you guys are missing the upside to all of this. I'm a recognized pilot now! Chicks dig pilots! the arfcom store needs to carry aviator jackets now!
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:59:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ALL R/C aircraft Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So is this new registration just for quadcopters.......or will I have to register all of my RC planes and Helicopters also??? ALL R/C aircraft  |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:59:06 PM EDT
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Good luck with that, it's not enforceable and will be roundly ignored. Pretty much. But it does give the FAA something to throw at someone being an idiot with one.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:59:19 PM EDT
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Unbelievable. I've been flying RC for decades. This is beyond ridiculous. I'll probably quit before I "register" a damn thing. So pissed... That is an easy story to craft Lost all your guns planes in a boating accident plane crash? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:59:24 PM EDT
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Q. Do I have to register a paper airplane, or a toy balloon or Frisbee?
A. No. Even if these things could be considered "drones" or "unmanned aircraft" and met the minimum weight threshold of 250 gm/0.55 lb., the registration rules also require that they be a part of an "unmanned aircraft system." An "unmanned aircraft system" includes the communication links and components that control the small unmanned aircraft along with all of the other elements needed to safely operate the drone. Paper airplanes, toy balloons, Frisbees, and similar items are not connected to such control system. Q. What about tethered drones? A. Both tethered and untethered UAS must be registered. Are kites that weigh more than 0.55lb supposed to be registered? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 2:59:32 PM EDT
[#26]
So if I'm flying my unregistered home-built foam RC plane in my backyard that weights a few grams over .55lbs.....I can be charged up to a $27,500 fine?? WTF?? Who approved this crap???
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:01:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So if I'm flying my unregistered home-built foam RC plane in my backyard that weights a few grams over .55lbs.....I can be charged up to a $27,500 fine?? WTF?? Who approved this crap??? Its pretty much a hidden tax they hope to make on enforcement. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:03:44 PM EDT
[#28]
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I believe I heard them say it was only $5 to register. I guarantee you they're spending more on this program than they'll be taking in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I believe I heard them say it was only $5 to register. I guarantee you they're spending more on this program than they'll be taking in. The fee will get rescinded. Quoted:
Q. Do I have to register a paper airplane, or a toy balloon or Frisbee?
A. No. Even if these things could be considered "drones" or "unmanned aircraft" and met the minimum weight threshold of 250 gm/0.55 lb., the registration rules also require that they be a part of an "unmanned aircraft system." An "unmanned aircraft system" includes the communication links and components that control the small unmanned aircraft along with all of the other elements needed to safely operate the drone. Paper airplanes, toy balloons, Frisbees, and similar items are not connected to such control system. Q. What about tethered drones? A. Both tethered and untethered UAS must be registered. Are kites that weigh more than 0.55lb supposed to be registered? Those were a hazard to air navigation way before the quad copter revolution. I'd send you contact information to a helo pilot that hated kites, but he was killed in an helo accident not related to kites. He survived the kite incidents. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:06:35 PM EDT
[#29]
56 Million for a system to take and store registration for users and their UAS?
And that's only for 4 years?! Holy shit that's absurd. It could be done for 1/10th of that cost. Not to mention 238 unsafe reports out of 200,000 UASs in CY 2014 equates to a tenth of one percent of all UASs being flown in an unsafe manner... |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:09:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So is this new registration just for quadcopters.......or will I have to register all of my RC planes and Helicopters also??? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:09:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:13:10 PM EDT
[#32]
We all know that the Jihadies will be the only one's registering their RC drones, planes, and helicopters.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:19:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryPretty much. The author of that book went through alot of shit just trying to be a small commercial farmer. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:24:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:25:02 PM EDT
[#35]
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Unbelievable. I've been flying RC for decades. This is beyond ridiculous. I'll probably quit before I "register" a damn thing. So pissed... I'm torn. I want to say fuck you. But on the other hand, I would rather not become a felon for flying a toy. This insane asylum is being run by the nuts. Fucking bull shit. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:28:03 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/1BMF/media/8060print_zpszx7lmsle.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/1BMF/8060print_zpszx7lmsle.jpg</a> Wait... so that will mean I'm going to be multi-engine qualified. Fuck yea |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:29:26 PM EDT
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I just ordered a quadcopter off Amazon. Reported. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:29:33 PM EDT
[#38]
As I said in the other thread this sports are so "acceptable". Anything beyond sitting on your couch drooling like a moron watching more morons throw a ball around like primates is suspicious. It's especially suspicious if it involves learning or specialized knowledge in anything involving mechanics and electronics.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:29:56 PM EDT
[#39]
what if you just fly it indoors?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:30:08 PM EDT
[#40]
All it takes is a few idiots to fuck up everybody's fun.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:30:28 PM EDT
[#41]
I suspect the large styrofoam gliders will need to be registered now.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:30:47 PM EDT
[#42]
Can you tell them to "Go fly a kite" or is that now dangerously close to registration?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:31:17 PM EDT
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what if you just fly it indoors? What if you only shoot your SBR indoors? Same mentality applies I assume. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:31:19 PM EDT
[#44]
Hoooollllllyyyyyyyyyyy shit
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:31:34 PM EDT
[#45]
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I suspect the large styrofoam gliders will need to be registered now. Are they over .55 lbs? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:31:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/1BMF/media/8060print_zpszx7lmsle.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/1BMF/8060print_zpszx7lmsle.jpg</a> Tom needs to go on a diet. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:32:05 PM EDT
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What if its a preprogramed GPS flight and I can't change the flight after it takes off?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:33:14 PM EDT
[#48]
Will no comply. The FAA already got bitch slapped for trying to regulate non-commercial RC aircraft. It's out of their jurisdiction.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:33:38 PM EDT
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Wait... so that will mean I'm going to be multi-engine qualified. Fuck yea Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/1BMF/media/8060print_zpszx7lmsle.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/1BMF/8060print_zpszx7lmsle.jpg</a> Wait... so that will mean I'm going to be multi-engine qualified. Fuck yea I need to go update my logbook with all my F15 flight time. I'm a lot closer to 1500 hours than I thought. 
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Posted: 12/14/2015 3:34:04 PM EDT
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I can see the compliance rate for this being close to zero. The real question is.... Will people's accounts be locked for saying they "did not comply"?
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