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Posted: 2/10/2023 11:30:19 AM EDT
FBI To Retract Catholic 'White Supremacist' Memo, Launch Internal Investigation

The FBI has vowed to launch an internal investigation to look into a now-retracted, leaked document which advised the agency to infiltrate groups of Roman Catholics which were 'at risk of committing acts of extremist violence,' the Daily Caller reports.
Father Alessandro da Luz elevates the chalice as he celebrates a traditional Latin Mass on Aug. 11, 2020, at Our Holy Redeemer Church in Freeport, N.Y. (CNS photo/Gregory A. Shemitz)

According to the document, Catholics "characterized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council" are prone to embracing "anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ and white supremacist ideology."

The Second Vatican Council, which concluded in 1965, supplanted the 16th-century Latin mass with the vernacular Novus Ordo form - which some groups have rejected while attempting to preserve the old Latin liturgy while continuing communion with Rome.

The FBI document cites the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), including the group's list of "Radical Traditional Catholicism Hate Groups."

   The document showed that the FBI’s field office in Richmond was considering infiltrating groups of traditionalist Roman Catholics who prefer the Latin mass, a whistleblower revealed Wednesday.

   Former FBI agent and whistleblower Kyle Seraphin published the alleged document, which he wrote is “dated January 23, 2023” and originated with an “intelligence analyst within the Richmond Field Office.” Seraphin, who describes himself as a “confirmed Catholic” in his bio, did not say how he obtained the document. -Daily Caller

According to the agency, the document, which originated from the Richmond field office, "does not meet the exacting standards of the FBI" (lol), and the Bureau will probe how it came to be, reads the report.

   According to a new whistleblower document, the FBI used deranged SPLC claims to justify targeting Catholic parishes and societies for infiltration to spy on "rad trads," whom the FBI claims are often violent racist terrorists. https://t.co/ZJr2h0DS0G
   — Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 8, 2023

"Upon learning of the document, FBI Headquarters quickly began taking action to remove the document from FBI systems and conduct a review of the basis for the document," the FBI told the Caller. "The FBI is committed to sound analytic tradecraft and to investigating and preventing acts of violence and other crimes while upholding the constitutional rights of all Americans and will never conduct investigative activities or open an investigation based solely on First Amendment protected activity."
'Sound analytic tradecraft...'

According to the FBI report, the agency assessed with "high confidence" that threats from so-called 'radical traditional Catholics' (RTCs) can be dealt with via "source development," among other strategies.

   The document expresses the FBI’s concern that racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists (RMVEs) will use traditionalist Catholic social media groups and parishes as “facilitation platforms to promote violence.” It also connects RTCs to an “increase in hostility toward abortion-rights advocates on social media in the run-up to and aftermath of” the Supreme Court decision that overturned Roe v. Wade.

   Among the Catholic or Catholic-adjacent groups mentioned in the document are the traditionalist Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), the right-wing Catholic news outlet Church Militant and “groypers,” the nickname for followers of traditionalist Catholic political commentator and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes. -Daily Caller

According to the memo, there is a "growing collaboration" between Church Militant and Fuentes' America First group, which shows evidence of increasing ties between traditional Catholics and extremist groups.

"The FBI report is based on ‘reporting’ by far-left extremists group and media outlets which clearly demonstrate zero understanding of Catholic theology. Those voluminous errors then found their way into this FBI report where flat out false conclusions are drawn," Church Militant told the Caller, adding that they have "zero connection" to Fuentes.

"Church Militant (and all faithful Catholics) in no way hates women, blacks, jews, immigrants or anyone else we may be accused of hating. To disagree with social or political points of view does not signify ‘hate’. It signifies disagreement."

"Likewise, to bolster its fear-mongering, the FBI report goes on to try and draw an imaginary link between Catholics and ‘white supremacy’ yet never defines what that ubiquitous term actually means," the statement continues. "Church Militant does not believe that ‘whites are superior’ or non-white races are somehow inferior. We are faithful catholics and Catholic teaching abhors such a notion. CM has zero connection to any person or outfit who espouses these anti-Catholic ideologies and condemns such beliefs. The FBI report falsely suggests that all of this is bound up in potential violence aimed at abortion supporters. For the record, Church Militant in no way shape or form supports physical violence against those with whom we disagree on moral/political issues of the day."
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:37:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:38:45 AM EDT
[#2]
DEUS VULT!!
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:40:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Can't wait for the investigation results to be released a year from now at 4pm on a Friday, stating that they can't identify the author of the memo and no evidence of wrongdoing was found.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:42:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:43:26 AM EDT
[#5]
They're just testing the waters.

They intentionally release stuff like this to gauge public outcry/backlash, while at the same time, planting a seed in people's minds that "This is normal for the government to do." They then redact it, knowing that less people will see the redaction than saw/heard of the original release, and anyone who mentions it will get shouted down by people who say "Oh they didn't mean that" or "They redacted that, so you're wrong".

Then, later, they release a less extreme version of it, and people are already softened up to the idea that "Oh yeah this is what the government does", and then the less extreme version slowly gets ramped up into the more extreme version through years of administrative bloat and taxpayer funding.

Our government is out of control.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:44:14 AM EDT
[#6]
Have they thought about investigating the SPLC racist terrorist organization?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:48:52 AM EDT
[#7]
Imagine if it was a dude who moonlighted with Babylon Bee and he just left it on his work computer
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:49:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Kyle Seraphin?


Kinda close to Seraphim
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:50:48 AM EDT
[#9]
Bullshit.  They are only investigating who leaked their true agenda.  Make no mistake, they are still the enemy of the United States
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:51:13 AM EDT
[#10]
Oh yeah, that makes me feel sooooo much better.... I'm sure they have their Top Men™ on the case.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:51:26 AM EDT
[#11]
Also allow me to translate for everyone reading, I speak FIB.


"We are very sorry this memo became public knowledge, we are still going to infiltrate traditional Catholic circles, and there's nothing you can do about it "
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:52:27 AM EDT
[#12]
That is one fucked up organization

Yeah, I'm talking about YOU F B I
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:52:47 AM EDT
[#13]
did they forget about BLM and ANTIFA?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:53:36 AM EDT
[#14]
Retraction without prejudice....  Theyll just do it again but in a different way.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:55:22 AM EDT
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They're just testing the waters.

They intentionally release stuff like this to gauge public outcry/backlash, while at the same time, planting a seed in people's minds that "This is normal for the government to do." They then redact it, knowing that less people will see the redaction than saw/heard of the original release, and anyone who mentions it will get shouted down by people who say "Oh they didn't mean that" or "They redacted that, so you're wrong".

Then, later, they release a less extreme version of it, and people are already softened up to the idea that "Oh yeah this is what the government does", and then the less extreme version slowly gets ramped up into the more extreme version through years of administrative bloat and taxpayer funding.

Our government is out of control.
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This. Just like all the theater with covid was to test our compliance to some even worse bullshit down the line. Pretty easy to see, if you're not an idiot sheep.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 11:57:02 AM EDT
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Can't wait for the investigation results to be released a year from now at 4pm on a Friday, stating that they can't identify the author of the memo and no evidence of wrongdoing was found.
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No need to wait, you let the cat out of the bag.
You will now be blamed for interfering with the investigation and face legal consequences for doing so.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:02:40 PM EDT
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What? Their guiding star? Ha!
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:03:16 PM EDT
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Odd. Aren't traditional racists/white supremacists also anti-Catholic?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:05:44 PM EDT
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Not in Italy
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:06:19 PM EDT
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Since the FIB fits the profile of traditional racist / white supremacists, I would say yes they are anti Catholic / anti Christian
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:09:33 PM EDT
[#21]
With energy like that why can't we stop all the Chinese fentynal coming across the Mexican border?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:10:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Southern Poverty Law Center deciding who are extremist/racist again.  Maybe we should be labeling them as the extremist organization since they keep attacking traditional American Values.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:15:28 PM EDT
[#23]
I could never believe anything FBI as a juror.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:17:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Translation: oops, we got caught...again.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:20:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:22:48 PM EDT
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I agree.

I think the Republicans need to make sure that no Federal Agency or any contractor under a Federal Agency contracts or subcontracts with SPLC and that no Federal tax dollars are granted to it either directly or indirectly.  

Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:25:18 PM EDT
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They're just testing the waters.

They intentionally release stuff like this to gauge public outcry/backlash, while at the same time, planting a seed in people's minds that "This is normal for the government to do." They then redact it, knowing that less people will see the redaction than saw/heard of the original release, and anyone who mentions it will get shouted down by people who say "Oh they didn't mean that" or "They redacted that, so you're wrong".

Then, later, they release a less extreme version of it, and people are already softened up to the idea that "Oh yeah this is what the government does", and then the less extreme version slowly gets ramped up into the more extreme version through years of administrative bloat and taxpayer funding.

Our government is out of control.
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Well stated.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:33:41 PM EDT
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Bub...America is lost.

Did Hillary ever get locked up?

Did Mehico ever pay for the wall?

Forget complicated things like that. Did the stupid reps ever find out who delivered and paid for even 1 pallet of bricks for Antifa in the Summer of Love 2020? Or who was buying the commercial fireworks for them to shoot at the police? You've LOST!

Let's get on with secession.

If this isn't clear to you all, that you can never win this fight, then you are doomed. There are no gods, no kraken or Trump saviors that can save the USA.

The ONLY possible hope for a chunk of traditional America to survive is this; form a conservative Union of States to secede.  You can only survive in a Union that is mostly devoid of dems and is based on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Don't you realize that if the filthy dems can convince the dictionary to change the definition of a woman to include a man with a penis...then they can do anything? You've LOST!

But forget that for a second. The reps have proven consistently, continually, positively, without a doubt and over the long haul, to be NO match for fighting the filthy dems. It is like a rabbit (reps) fighting a tiger. (dems) Reps are impotent. Accept that and move on.

Your every waking second, every waking minute and every waking hour should be spent on secession. It isn't like you haven't had a chance. You have had decades of chances and have continually and consistently failed in the most pitiful and shameful manner possible.

If you don't secede, you will be under perpetual dem rule and eventually be disarmed. Every year that goes by, more and more old conservatives die off and more genderqueer kids get to vote. Secede and form the Union, while you have a chance. You've LOST!

After secession life won't be better than it was in the old USA...but the old USA is gone. You will have to judge how things will be under perpetual dem rule with no secession. There is always a cost to change. And with no change, America is doomed to implode under the destructive dem policies that are meant to bring down the country.

The ONLY hope is secession of conservative states. Put the cork back in the butt of the homosexuals, transqueers and pedoscum.

If no secession, then the dems will eventually own all 50 states and the pedoscum will be free to groom. Remember...love is love. You can't stop a pedoscum from loving...equity and justice, you know. 

And as a bonus, the transqueers will be free to convince your kindergarteners to mutilate their privates. You've LOST!


Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:37:22 PM EDT
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They are BLM and ANTIFA.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:40:16 PM EDT
[#30]
They investigated themselves and....
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:42:58 PM EDT
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Southern Poverty Law Center deciding who are extremist/racist again.  Maybe we should be labeling them as the extremist organization since they keep attacking traditional American Values.
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SPLC and ADL need to be barred from participation or data sourcing with any Federal agencies due to their own extreme bias.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:49:14 PM EDT
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They are BLM and ANTIFA.
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They are BLM and ANTIFA.



There are millions of Americans that still have yet to realize this.

I highly recommend for those that do not see it, to research the Chinese Cultural Revolution and how the communist of China secretly funded and supported college aid youth to do their dirty work with full government  deniability.  The same types of things that went on in China are going on here in America.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:50:52 PM EDT
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The SPLC is a fucking Hate Group that makes all their bones by slandering anything remotely resembling right leaning folks with untrue, hateful, made up bullshit.

Generating an intelligence assessment based on anything the SPLC generates is a clear political Conflict of Interest.  It's like deciding what to make for dinner every night based on what your four year old thinks is healthy for you.  

The FBI clearly doesn't have enough real shit to do.  Either find something actually productive that doesn't involve making shit up based on political bullshit in order to violate citizens like the KGB and FSB, or get rid of them.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:51:11 PM EDT
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SPLC and ADL need to be barred from participation or data sourcing with any Federal agencies due to their own extreme bias.
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Southern Poverty Law Center deciding who are extremist/racist again.  Maybe we should be labeling them as the extremist organization since they keep attacking traditional American Values.

SPLC and ADL need to be barred from participation or data sourcing with any Federal agencies due to their own extreme bias.


FACT.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 12:56:00 PM EDT
[#35]
Our own government is at war with us.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:00:34 PM EDT
[#36]
So who can investigate the FBI?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:03:27 PM EDT
[#37]
How did the FBI get this fucking bad? Do they believe their own bullshit?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:04:26 PM EDT
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Agree completely. They are horrifically political, biased, and racist organizations.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:08:45 PM EDT
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:10:05 PM EDT
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They're only "investigating" because they got caught. What other groups have they already infiltrated that they didn't get caught with?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:29:19 PM EDT
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They're just testing the waters.

They intentionally release stuff like this to gauge public outcry/backlash, while at the same time, planting a seed in people's minds that "This is normal for the government to do." They then redact it, knowing that less people will see the redaction than saw/heard of the original release, and anyone who mentions it will get shouted down by people who say "Oh they didn't mean that" or "They redacted that, so you're wrong".

Then, later, they release a less extreme version of it, and people are already softened up to the idea that "Oh yeah this is what the government does", and then the less extreme version slowly gets ramped up into the more extreme version through years of administrative bloat and taxpayer funding.

Our government is out of control.
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Attachment Attached File


Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:31:32 PM EDT
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Those are the glowies' useful idiots.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:35:08 PM EDT
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Sounds like SPLC is becoming a terrorist movement, knowing they have gov le agency backing them, they are weaponizing their "list" against folks they don't like.

IIRC, this happened before....early 20th century...TOMT
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:36:57 PM EDT
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Retracting the memo because they got caught, not because they realized their actions are illegal, unconstitutional and contrary to the FBI oath of office.

Which means, they will reword/edit the memo for public consumption then go back to their woke boogeyman hunt.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:39:30 PM EDT
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How long do you give it until Serafin has an accident or is found with a pistol brace with a computer full of CP?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 1:46:55 PM EDT
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The SPLC is a fucking Hate Group that makes all their bones by slandering anything remotely resembling right leaning folks with untrue, hateful, made up bullshit.

Generating an intelligence assessment based on anything the SPLC generates is a clear political Conflict of Interest.  It's like deciding what to make for dinner every night based on what your four year old thinks is healthy for you.  

The FBI clearly doesn't have enough real shit to do.  Either find something actually productive that doesn't involve making shit up based on political bullshit in order to violate citizens like the KGB and FSB, or get rid of them.
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Not really.  The four-year-old is not committed to destroying half of the family.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 2:07:04 PM EDT
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Is the investigation over all ready?  Simple misprint?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 2:22:42 PM EDT
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Bub...America is lost.

Did Hillary ever get locked up?

Did Mehico ever pay for the wall?

Forget complicated things like that. Did the stupid reps ever find out who delivered and paid for even 1 pallet of bricks for Antifa in the Summer of Love 2020? Or who was buying the commercial fireworks for them to shoot at the police? You've LOST!

Let's get on with secession.

If this isn't clear to you all, that you can never win this fight, then you are doomed. There are no gods, no kraken or Trump saviors that can save the USA.

The ONLY possible hope for a chunk of traditional America to survive is this; form a conservative Union of States to secede.  You can only survive in a Union that is mostly devoid of dems and is based on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Don't you realize that if the filthy dems can convince the dictionary to change the definition of a woman to include a man with a penis...then they can do anything? You've LOST!

But forget that for a second. The reps have proven consistently, continually, positively, without a doubt and over the long haul, to be NO match for fighting the filthy dems. It is like a rabbit (reps) fighting a tiger. (dems) Reps are impotent. Accept that and move on.

Your every waking second, every waking minute and every waking hour should be spent on secession. It isn't like you haven't had a chance. You have had decades of chances and have continually and consistently failed in the most pitiful and shameful manner possible.

If you don't secede, you will be under perpetual dem rule and eventually be disarmed. Every year that goes by, more and more old conservatives die off and more genderqueer kids get to vote. Secede and form the Union, while you have a chance. You've LOST!

After secession life won't be better than it was in the old USA...but the old USA is gone. You will have to judge how things will be under perpetual dem rule with no secession. There is always a cost to change. And with no change, America is doomed to implode under the destructive dem policies that are meant to bring down the country.

The ONLY hope is secession of conservative states. Put the cork back in the butt of the homosexuals, transqueers and pedoscum.

If no secession, then the dems will eventually own all 50 states and the pedoscum will be free to groom. Remember...love is love. You can't stop a pedoscum from loving...equity and justice, you know. 

And as a bonus, the transqueers will be free to convince your kindergarteners to mutilate their privates. You've LOST!


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Why does this post smell like cat piss?
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 2:23:40 PM EDT
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The only thing they will investigate is who leaked the memo.
Link Posted: 2/10/2023 2:27:17 PM EDT
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