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Posted: 1/5/2021 10:50:30 AM EDT
"Someone called and said someone did something but they didn't give much of a description. We need your ID so we can find out whether you're the guy we have no description of."
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Posted: 1/5/2021 10:59:23 AM EDT
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15 minutes?
I'll wait for the cliff notes. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:03:45 AM EDT
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Winning hearts and minds!
Cliff notes: they arrest the guy because he had brown hair and didn’t want to show them ID. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:07:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:08:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 15 minutes? I'll wait for the cliff notes. Cops get a call for a drunk driver, with description of "brown haired guy with 3 year old," and attempt to ID a dude with the 3 year old. Dude knows his rights and refuses. Cops threaten to take his kid and arrest him, and then arrest him and take his kid. The shocking conclusion: The SGT showed up, actually knows the law, manages to actually do the right thing, and cuts him loose. 8/10 for Jack knowing his rights, but should have called for a supervisor immediately. 2/10 for cops arresting for refusal to ID. 7/10 for SGT correcting the idiocy of his supervised. eta: brown hair and rating for coppers |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:09:55 AM EDT
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"Avenge me boy!!!"
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:11:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryPersonally, I would have gone with, "That's some mighty fine police work, boys," but hatless is cool too. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:14:06 AM EDT
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From what I remember, in Texas you have no duty to identify yourself while being detained and is only unlawful if you lie about your identification.
Perhaps I am wrong though. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:14:18 AM EDT
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LOL at the sheeple in the lot praising the cops for stomping all over that dude's rights.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:14:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The shocking conclusion: The SGT showed up, actually knows the law, manages to actually do the right thing, and cuts him loose. 8/10 for Jack knowing his rights, but should have called for a supervisor immediately. I've always looked at "I want to speak to your supervisor," the same as, "If you're an undercover, you have to tell me if I ask." In many places, you don't get to ask to see a boss. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:15:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I remember, in Texas you have no duty to identify yourself while being detained and is only unlawful if you lie about your identification. Perhaps I am wrong though. Officer Blinky tried to stick that to him... Guessing he knew he was in the wrong... Willful ignorance? |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:16:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a thing where this takes place? I've always looked at "I want to speak to your supervisor," the same thing as, "If you're an undercover, you have to tell me if I ask." In many places, you don't get to ask to see a boss. No idea, I can't imagine it would have hurt to do so seeing as the boss was the only uniformed person with half a brain. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:16:30 AM EDT
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Note to self: always ask the cop “oh yeah? What kind of car do I drive?”
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:16:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:17:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I remember, in Texas you have no duty to identify yourself while being detained and is only unlawful if you lie about your identification. Perhaps I am wrong though. You're right. The only time you have to ID yourself in TX is if you're being arrested |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:17:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a thing where this takes place? I've always looked at "I want to speak to your supervisor," the same thing as, "If you're an undercover, you have to tell me if I ask." In many places, you don't get to ask to see a boss. Yep. There is no "right" to see a supervisor. He may even be home in bed in small depts.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:20:56 AM EDT
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Title should probably be "SJW lies about person with Trump Mask".
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:24:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. There is no "right" to see a supervisor. He may even be home in bed in small depts. From what I've ascertained from body cam footage of these types of incidents, while there may be no "right" to see a supervisor, the supervisor being present is usually helpful for everyone involved. I can't think of any that I've watched where the supervising officer didn't show when asked. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:26:14 AM EDT
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Looks to me that arresting officer screwed up and supervisor corrected his error, there should be consequenses to the arresting officer for screwing up like that
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:26:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. There is no "right" to see a supervisor. He may even be home in bed in small depts. It may be policy at departments in some lib areas. When I see it happen in auditor videos, there's usually no crime or RAS to hold the person, so the cops seem happy to call the sup and have the person stick around longer while they wait on them to get there. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:26:56 AM EDT
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It's the guy being attacked by the cops fault.
Everyone knows you have to obey all government employees no matter how unreasonable or invalid their demands are. They should have shot the guy and his son so we'd all know blue lives matter 
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:28:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. The only time you have to ID yourself in TX is if you're being arrested I'd give the supervisor some credit for knowing the law, but he hem haws around about it and even has the officer that arrested the dude tell him that he should give his ID even though the law doesn't require it. It blows my mind that this very basic understanding of the law on how officers should interact with the public isn't known by police officers. Arresting someone for not breaking the law should be much more serious than how they let that play out. Something of that magnitude in my profession would have severe repercussions. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:29:25 AM EDT
[#22]
Fucking hero’s.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:29:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks to me that arresting officer screwed up and supervisor corrected his error, there should be consequenses to the arresting officer for screwing up like that Termination, loss of retirement bennies and banned from working LE jobs/running for public office should be the consequence, IMO. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:30:09 AM EDT
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FTP
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:31:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks to me that arresting officer screwed up and supervisor corrected his error, there should be consequenses to the arresting officer for screwing up like that |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:33:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Termination, loss of retirement bennies and banned from working LE jobs/running for public office should be the consequence, IMO. Would like to know the officers history and get the dads opinion on what should be done before I would go along with that, IMO |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:33:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Termination, loss of retirement bennies and banned from working LE jobs/running for public office should be the consequence, IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks to me that arresting officer screwed up and supervisor corrected his error, there should be consequenses to the arresting officer for screwing up like that Termination, loss of retirement bennies and banned from working LE jobs/running for public office should be the consequence, IMO. For sure. Police need to be held to the highest standards. They have too much authority to allow shitheads in their ranks. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:34:08 AM EDT
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Sgt knows that the cops screwed up and opened themselves to a law suit.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:35:27 AM EDT
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It looks like these police men are in need of further training on investigation and confrontation management. I think the citizen needs to start by talking to the mayor of the city and the police chief. I could see a way of not suing the police department provided they took out an add in the local paper and local radio station admitting what they did is wrong. I've encountered a common situation years ago that I handled by not arguing with the cop on the street. I requested his immediate supervisor to meet me at my home to discuss the matter. To their credit they did send the his supervisor to talk with me on my front door step. I can somewhat identify with the cops in that video, however, this is not the way to provide quality law enforcement services to the community. In my eyes, I am more concerned with their lack of training.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:35:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sgt knows that the cops screwed up and opened themselves to a law suit. He was thinking awful hard about a way to cover his ass and lock the dude up... Thankfully he was honest. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:37:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trying to piece it together, but the audio isn't all that great. It however appears that one of the arresting officers understood he didn't need to show his ID but also didn't object to the arrest and participated in it after the call to arrest was made. Your right ,and he is also a party to the screwup |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:37:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I've ascertained from body cam footage of these types of incidents, while there may be no "right" to see a supervisor, the supervisor being present is usually helpful for everyone involved. I can't think of any that I've watched where the supervising officer didn't show when asked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. There is no "right" to see a supervisor. He may even be home in bed in small depts. From what I've ascertained from body cam footage of these types of incidents, while there may be no "right" to see a supervisor, the supervisor being present is usually helpful for everyone involved. I can't think of any that I've watched where the supervising officer didn't show when asked. Heck, they'd probably chew you out later for not being able to handle your business. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:39:42 AM EDT
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Dont these idiots know theyre under the national spotlight? Why continue to be idiot cops?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:40:37 AM EDT
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LOL At the end, what looks like a manager that just walked to the scene after it was over and seems to know one of the cops and says, "You let him walk away? What the hell?" He didn't even know or understood what happened but seemed bummed that they let the guy go. What's even sadder is he's not the only who has that ignorant mentality.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:41:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We had sergeants that didn't play that game. They would flat out refuse to respond. Heck, they'd probably chew you out later for not being able to handle your business. NY metro area? Yeah... No comment. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:41:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would like to know the officers history and get the dads opinion on what should be done before I would go along with that, IMO When you clearly demonstrate a willingness to violate another person's rights over what amounts to frustration/anger on your part, you've no business working for the public. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:41:39 AM EDT
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The Cops will get paid vacation and the father will get a settlement paid for by taxpayers.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:42:38 AM EDT
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As a side note, if I’m stopped for a traffic violation in Texas I don’t have to identify myself, or at that point I’m arrested for having a tail light out?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:43:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't these idiots know they're under the national spotlight? Why continue to be idiot cops? They don't care. Because they can. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:46:35 AM EDT
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I had something like this happen years ago . Except that it involved one of sons .
Cops showed up at the front door one morning and said that they had a report of someone vandalizing cars in the neighborhood . And they had a tag number . And a description of the person . Supposed to match my son. They proceeded to try and hand me a long line of BS . Finally after I had a much of their lies as I could stand I called my wife and brought her up to speed on the happenings . And I made sure to reaffirm how the car was titled . I turned to the officers and told them to leave my property as quickly as they could . You see all our cars and trucks are titled in my wife's name . And have been for years . Busted . gd |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:47:49 AM EDT
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At least he didn’t have his dog with him.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:48:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont these idiots know theyre under the national spotlight? Why continue to be idiot cops? We have to understand for some people idiot is the very best they can ever accomplish. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:51:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had something like this happen years ago . Except that it involved one of sons . Cops showed up at the front door one morning and said that they had a report of someone vandalizing cars in the neighborhood . And they had a tag number . And a description of the person . Supposed to match my son. They proceeded to try and hand me a long line of BS . Finally after I had a much of their lies as I could stand I called my wife and brought her up to speed on the happenings . And I made sure to reaffirm how the car was titled . I turned to the officers and told them to leave my property as quickly as they could . You see all our cars and trucks are titled in my wife's name . And have been for years . Busted . gd They had a description that matched your son, and a tag number that came back to one of your cars? Unless I misunderstand, that sounds a lot like he did it. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:53:17 AM EDT
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My question is should a cop be crucified over every case of false arrest or do we look at circumstances surrounding it as well as harm done? zero tolerance ?
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:53:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont these idiots know theyre under the national spotlight? Why continue to be idiot cops? Because its normal for them to just fuck everyone. So many other cops there, but none of them are willing to stop a stupid officer. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:54:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking hero’s. Can’t wait for their crying retirement videos. Just as bad as tiktard nurses |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:55:18 AM EDT
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I spy with my little eye....
Another video at a Wal Mart Another wrongfully treated individual involving a mask or Trump merch. (in this case both) Seems to me that police are always willing to go balls deep on folks that won't flip out, cause a scene, and claim racial bias. AND MORE NOTABLY, that WalMArt seems to relish in using the police to enforce Walmarts authoritah |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:55:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont these idiots know theyre under the national spotlight? Why continue to be idiot cops? "When you're dead, you aren't aware of it...it is only painful to others. It's the same when you're stupid.". |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:55:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My question is should a cop be crucified over every case of false arrest or do we look at circumstances surrounding it as well as harm done? zero tolerance ? What circumstances can possibly excuse the absence of Reasonable Articulable Suspicion? |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:56:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 15 minutes? I'll wait for the cliff notes. A couple cops show up to a Walmart in Texas after someone called to report an assumed intoxicated driver with a young kid. Said cops jam up a guy they see in the store, ask & pressure him to show ID, which he refuses. Cops get physical, cuff him, jam his throat against a cooler & take his ID out of his pocket. Little kid is right there watching until Walmart lady grabs him to console. Cops put him in the patrol car & proceed to discuss said happenings with their sargent. Sargent discusses what happened & why, fishes if there are any offenses besides not showing ID that he can be arrested for, then proceeds to tell the arresting cop to let him go with a 'there was a misunderstanding of the law...' explication. Dude got protected & served... |
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