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"Barack, I'm not going to say it again..........get your narrow ass in the kitchen and make me a sandwich!!!"............Harriet Tubman.
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Having nothing to do with subject at hand, this continues your fine tradition of rubbish replies. States aren't people, and the Federal government, unlike police, has been given no power or authority to "kill" a State, whether it is in or out of the Union at any particular point. Plus, isn't it supposed to be Congress that declares ware? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dick Heller believed he had the right to own a gun, and was ultimately proven correct. That doesn't mean that had he opted to express his rights by standing in his yard threatening people with an AR that he wouldn't have found himself rendered dead as the result of law enforcement action. Having nothing to do with subject at hand, this continues your fine tradition of rubbish replies. States aren't people, and the Federal government, unlike police, has been given no power or authority to "kill" a State, whether it is in or out of the Union at any particular point. Plus, isn't it supposed to be Congress that declares ware? You don't "declare war" in a law enforcement operation against a hostile armed force within your borders. |
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You don't "declare war" in a law enforcement operation against a hostile armed force within your borders. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dick Heller believed he had the right to own a gun, and was ultimately proven correct. That doesn't mean that had he opted to express his rights by standing in his yard threatening people with an AR that he wouldn't have found himself rendered dead as the result of law enforcement action. Having nothing to do with subject at hand, this continues your fine tradition of rubbish replies. States aren't people, and the Federal government, unlike police, has been given no power or authority to "kill" a State, whether it is in or out of the Union at any particular point. Plus, isn't it supposed to be Congress that declares ware? You don't "declare war" in a law enforcement operation against a hostile armed force within your borders. Wasn't in their borders anymore. That's kind of the point. Unless, of course, you can point me to some clear, unequivocal language in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the ratification documents that states a sovereign State joining the Union has made an irrevocable, irreversible act, and that the Federal government may prevent the same with force. You know, kind of like I have repeatedly posted where the States reserved the right to secede? Strangely, in all these conversations, you have yet to do so. Why? |
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Wasn't in their borders anymore. That's kind of the point. Unless, of course, you can point me to some clear, unequivocal language in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the ratification documents that states a sovereign State joining the Union has made an irrevocable, irreversible act, and that the Federal government may prevent the same with force. You know, kind of like I have repeatedly posted where the States reserved the right to secede? Strangely, in all these conversations, you have yet to do so. Why? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Dick Heller believed he had the right to own a gun, and was ultimately proven correct. That doesn't mean that had he opted to express his rights by standing in his yard threatening people with an AR that he wouldn't have found himself rendered dead as the result of law enforcement action. Having nothing to do with subject at hand, this continues your fine tradition of rubbish replies. States aren't people, and the Federal government, unlike police, has been given no power or authority to "kill" a State, whether it is in or out of the Union at any particular point. Plus, isn't it supposed to be Congress that declares ware? You don't "declare war" in a law enforcement operation against a hostile armed force within your borders. Wasn't in their borders anymore. That's kind of the point. Unless, of course, you can point me to some clear, unequivocal language in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the ratification documents that states a sovereign State joining the Union has made an irrevocable, irreversible act, and that the Federal government may prevent the same with force. You know, kind of like I have repeatedly posted where the States reserved the right to secede? Strangely, in all these conversations, you have yet to do so. Why? You are asking irrelevant questions. The only thing relevant is that there was disagreement over whether secession was a right. One faction believed it was. Another believed it was not. The faction that believed it was, thought they could get their way by force of arms. At that point, even factions that didn't give a shit had to take a side. My Dick Heller analogy made my point perfectly, but you dismissed it out of hand. |
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"Come with me if you want to live" - Harriet Tubman http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I_Mi_KKOnUI/VxhF7G5cdTI/AAAAAAAAKoU/zeeGuhs_S6wF4k07t7CvJV6Wd3A9hRkAQCK4B/s1600/Harriet%2BTubman.jpg Anyone plan on selling these as stickers? View Quote I would 100% approve of this bill. What a great story and lesson to teach our kids. |
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You are asking irrelevant questions. The only thing relevant is that there was disagreement over whether secession was a right. One faction believed it was. Another believed it was not. The faction that believed it was, thought they could get their way by force of arms. At that point, even factions that didn't give a shit had to take a side. My Dick Heller analogy made my point perfectly, but you dismissed it out of hand. View Quote You are delusional. There is no "belief" about it. It is spelled out: AGAIN - (see the bold parts ....) New York ratification document: "...That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness; that every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by the said Constitution clearly delegated to the Congress of the United States, or the departments of the government thereof, remains to the people of the several states, or to their respective state governments, to whom they may have granted the same; and that those clauses in the said Constitution, which declare that Congress shall not have or exercise certain powers, do not imply that Congress is entitled to any powers not given by the said Constitution; but such clauses are to be construed either as exceptions to certain specified powers, or as inserted merely for greater caution." Virginia ratification document: "WE the Delegates of the people of Virginia, duly elected in pursuance of a recommendation from the General Assembly, and now met in Convention, having fully and freely investigated and discussed the proceedings of the Federal Convention, and being prepared as well as the most mature deliberation hath enabled us, to decide thereon, DO in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known that the powers granted under the Constitution, being derived from the people of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power not granted thereby remains with them and at their will:" Rhode Island ratification document: "...III. That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness. ..." Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ... Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; ... mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms ("of Government", editor's addition) to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing ... a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Walter Williams on the subject: "At the 1787 Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made to allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison, the acknowledged father of our Constitution, rejected it, saying: “A Union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a State would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound ... There’s more evidence seen at the time our Constitution was ratified. The ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said that they held the right to resume powers delegated, should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought that they could not maintain their sovereignty. ...” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/secession-its-constitutional/#wC4mRJUxcs8omdHi.99" Words mean things. Any "belief" that States CANNOT secede is dishonest or delusional. |
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[Regarding the newly-founded Underground Railroad system circa 1851]
"Somebody's gotta go back and get a shit-load of dimes!" - Harriet Tubman |
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MLK was a much more significant actor in American events. While Tubman's actions show personal courage, and MLK has some baggage, he was much more significant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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MLK would have been an even more controversial choice. You could at least throw around a few details about his life to say why you disagree. Tubman is more bullet proof in the respect. MLK was a much more significant actor in American events. While Tubman's actions show personal courage, and MLK has some baggage, he was much more significant. MLK was a complete bullshit artist . His speeches plaugerised. Fucked hookers and a commie . This is a great choice. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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belief? bitch, I got proof https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CEDJKgYuXV8%2FUWHP01HRy3I%2FAAAAAAAAC-E%2FNHT_q1cwE5k%2Fs1600%2Fappomattox-1.jpg&f=1 View Quote What you have is not proof that secession is unconstitutional or illegal. What you have is proof that Yankees will act in an unconstitutional and illegal manner to get what they want - in the manner of the abusive spouse in the wife beater staggering drunkenly through the trailer park yelling at his battered spouse that "You ain't leaving me! I'll kill you first. If'n I can't have you, no one can!" Such is not what our union was intended to be - we have the words and acts of the Founders to illustrate that. Might does not make right. |
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"Dwarf? I thought you said go down on the wharf!" Harriet Tubman
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belief? bitch, I got proof https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CEDJKgYuXV8%2FUWHP01HRy3I%2FAAAAAAAAC-E%2FNHT_q1cwE5k%2Fs1600%2Fappomattox-1.jpg&f=1 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You are asking irrelevant questions. The only thing relevant is that there was disagreement over whether secession was a right. One faction believed it was. Another believed it was not. The faction that believed it was, thought they could get their way by force of arms. At that point, even factions that didn't give a shit had to take a side. My Dick Heller analogy made my point perfectly, but you dismissed it out of hand. You are delusional. There is no "belief" about it. It is spelled out: AGAIN - (see the bold parts ....) New York ratification document: "...That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness; that every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by the said Constitution clearly delegated to the Congress of the United States, or the departments of the government thereof, remains to the people of the several states, or to their respective state governments, to whom they may have granted the same; and that those clauses in the said Constitution, which declare that Congress shall not have or exercise certain powers, do not imply that Congress is entitled to any powers not given by the said Constitution; but such clauses are to be construed either as exceptions to certain specified powers, or as inserted merely for greater caution." Virginia ratification document: "WE the Delegates of the people of Virginia, duly elected in pursuance of a recommendation from the General Assembly, and now met in Convention, having fully and freely investigated and discussed the proceedings of the Federal Convention, and being prepared as well as the most mature deliberation hath enabled us, to decide thereon, DO in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known that the powers granted under the Constitution, being derived from the people of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power not granted thereby remains with them and at their will:" Rhode Island ratification document: "...III. That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness. ..." Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ... Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; ... mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms ("of Government", editor's addition) to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing ... a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Walter Williams on the subject: "At the 1787 Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made to allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison, the acknowledged father of our Constitution, rejected it, saying: “A Union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a State would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound ... There’s more evidence seen at the time our Constitution was ratified. The ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said that they held the right to resume powers delegated, should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought that they could not maintain their sovereignty. ...” Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/secession-its-constitutional/#wC4mRJUxcs8omdHi.99" Words mean things. Any "belief" that States CANNOT secede is dishonest or delusional. belief? bitch, I got proof https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CEDJKgYuXV8%2FUWHP01HRy3I%2FAAAAAAAAC-E%2FNHT_q1cwE5k%2Fs1600%2Fappomattox-1.jpg&f=1 Burn. |
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. " Harriet Tubman
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"This gun is only legal in 3 states - and this ain't one of 'em ...." - Harriet Tubman
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"People don't think the universe be like it is, but it do."- Harriet Tubman
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"The double tap is a myth. Shoot the threat until it goes away. Only then will his sole find peace." -Harriet Tubman
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"We're gonna drop ordinance on the motherfuckers until they give up, die or there is nothing for them to fight over." H. Tubman
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"All I have in this world is my word and my balls, and I don't break 'em for nobody." Harriet Tubman
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"I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!" - Harriet Tubman
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"If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you." - Harriet Tubman
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain."
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"I see the democrats are still at it..............now they want to enslave everyone"................Harriet Tubman.
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"I don't know nothing about birthing no babies" - Harriet Tubman
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Which is JUST AS STUPID of a reason. People not liking something because the left likes it are acting like children. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Great choice for the $20 bill. I am surprised she was chosen to tell you the truth. I had reasoned this out in my mind, there was one of two things I had a right to, liberty or death; if I could not have one, I would have the other. Tubman Why is it so surprising? Libtards make decisions according to touchy feelies, not logic, and they picked Tubman because she was the perfect person to placate Obama's reverse racist hordes. The reason why they put her on the $20 and not the $10 as they originally intended is entirely due to that Broadwaty musical making Hamilton look cool. It's Touchy Feelies influencing the decision making process again. Heck, I'll even put money on the Libtards not even knowing Tubman was a Republican. They are low-information voters and they have been indoctrinated into thinking DEMOCRATS GOOD, REPUBLICANS BAD too thoroughly. I think it is you who has the touchy feelies. Why isn't she a good choice? Freedom lover - check Fought for freedom - check Injured for freedom - check Stood up for what is right - check Promoted voting rights for women - check Christian - check gun user - check Republican - check What argument could you possibly have that she isn't a good candidate to be put on the $20? Oh wait - she's black. Well shit. How you going to rationalize that, huh? Your touchy feelies don't like that, do they? It isn't because she's black. It's because this is something the left wants. Which is JUST AS STUPID of a reason. People not liking something because the left likes it are acting like children. If logical reasons are what you seek, then here ya go. The government doesn't have money to waste to redesign money, 10 years this is supposed to take before the new bills happen. Aside from tooling, and whatever else goes into the new design, just factor in that is ten years of however many fed employees salary. 100k a year times 10 years times how many people? There are much more deserving people to put on a note. The current theme of the notes are presidents and founders of the nation or parts of. In general, people that made America what it is for all Americans. Not some bullshit that helped 300 people if that's even right? I would be happier with George Washington Carver, a black man thatsdiscoveries helped everyone. The first black Marshall. First black congressman/senator/governor if their past is respectable. Your basic complaint is nobody likes Tubby because we must be racist. So congrats on outing yourself as a SJW plant. |
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"Anything is a dildo if you're brave enough" - Harriet Tubman, circa 2007
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"Hey Hillary...........why don't you come over tonight and try to personally take my firearms?"..........Harriet Tubman.
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"My father used to say that not playing to win is like sleeping with your sister. Sure she's a great piece of tail, with a blouse full of goodies, but... it's just illegal. Then you get into that whole inbred thing. Kids with no teeth who do nothing but play the banjo... eat apple sauce through a straw... pork farm animals." - Harriet's brother, Harry Tubman
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"Hey Sharpton..........shut up and come over hear and learn how to really fight against the odds"..............Harriet Tubman.
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