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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:16:30 PM EDT
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Not surprised. The SCOTUS previously said that the feds can't withhold funds because of a reason unrelated to the purpose of the funds. Trump need to figure out a way to get 99% of what he wants with that limitation. He needs better quality lawyers writing up these EOs. He must have some flunky left over from Obama who knows how to write EOs that sound good to Trump but won't pass review. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:17:49 PM EDT
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The judge was appointed to his position in 2002, and was a Republican representative in Illinois. The law is the law, and now it needs to be changed.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:17:52 PM EDT
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Ignore him like he ignores us
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:19:45 PM EDT
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So will the judge force the appropriate person to sign checks? "He's made his decision. Now let him enforce it." 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:22:55 PM EDT
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Newt was right when he ran on curbing the power of judges.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:24:51 PM EDT
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So, by the same logic, unlimited speed limits and 18 year old drinking age here we come?
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:28:56 PM EDT
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Trump is going to have to make an example of one of these cocksuckers.
When they start losing their cushy lifetime jobs (and pensions), maybe they'll quit being fucking outlaws themselves. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:35:30 PM EDT
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I'll never understand how a district judge can rule over the entire country.  This
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:39:12 PM EDT
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Do our judges get to do this when they try to implement more gun control?
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:41:42 PM EDT
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The tyranny of the black robes.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:47:38 PM EDT
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Why do I keep reading and hearing that Obama failed to fill hundreds of positions in the court rooms, yet the few that he appointed keep shitting on President Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why do I keep reading and hearing that Obama failed to fill hundreds of positions in the court rooms, yet the few that he appointed keep shitting on President Trump. The judge, who was appointed by former President Ronald Reagan... 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:49:28 PM EDT
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So funds cant be denied say's the dinosaur huh?
So if they want funds just give these sanctuary citys just $87.00 each and tell them to make it last Can the judge be fired/removed by the DOJ ? |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:49:59 PM EDT
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Guys this is just another battle in the overall war. In this particular battle we will eventually win! How? 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:52:06 PM EDT
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So why can't we get a federal judge to overrule all state level firearms laws just because he feels like it? 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:00:27 PM EDT
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So, by the same logic, unlimited speed limits and 18 year old drinking age here we come? Kids should have fun too 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:00:44 PM EDT
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Not surprised. The SCOTUS previously said that the feds can't withhold funds because of a reason unrelated to the purpose of the funds. Trump need to figure out a way to get 99% of what he wants with that limitation. He needs better quality lawyers writing up these EOs. He must have some flunky left over from Obama who knows how to write EOs that sound good to Trump but won't pass review. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:00:54 PM EDT
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Doesn't the law allow fines for companies that hire undocumented workers? Just send audit teams all over the sanctuary cities inspecting employers' I9 forms and handing out massive fines. Raise some revenue for the deficit, drive out the illegally, make liberals scream: it's a win-win-win. Why does this not happen?
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:01:16 PM EDT
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How the hell can a judge control what the DOJ does with its own grant money? |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:02:17 PM EDT
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Because no one has ever told them to piss off, we're not paying any attention to you. Tell him you send any federal marshalls to arrest us, our federal officers will shoot your federal officers in the face. Wait, are you being serious? |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:04:45 PM EDT
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How the hell can a judge control what the DOJ does with its own grant money? He can't. The issue is that the grant money comes with strings (guidelines that the state must follow) that currently don't say anything about immigration enforcement. However, come Sept. 30, 2017, that federal funding ends. The next grants start 10-01-2017 and the government agency (congress??) that issues these grants can include stipulations including cooperation with ICE as in honoring ICE immigration detainers, not interfering with ICE officers making arrests on state property, and allowing their state/local LEO's to contact ICE (if they so chose) to report the arrest by them of illegal/out of status aliens that ICE may be interested in interviewing. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:29:18 PM EDT
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He can't. The issue is that the grant money comes with strings (guidelines that the state must follow) that currently don't say anything about immigration enforcement. However, come Sept. 30, 2017, that federal funding ends. The next grants start 10-01-2017 and the government agency (congress??) that issues these grants can include stipulations including cooperation with ICE as in honoring ICE immigration detainers, not interfering with ICE officers making arrests on state property, and allowing their state/local LEO's to contact ICE (if they so chose) to report the arrest by them of illegal/out of status aliens that ICE may be interested in interviewing. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:31:43 PM EDT
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Enough of black robes making law! Complete BS. Withhold the funds anyway. Barry broke the law all the time. He's not in jail.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:46:03 PM EDT
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I'll never understand how a district judge can rule over the entire country. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:51:53 PM EDT
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If that's the case why didn't they just make the EO effective 10/1 and avoid the pissing match? Quote HistoryQuoted:
If that's the case why didn't they just make the EO effective 10/1 and avoid the pissing match? Can't find any details on the effective date. Based on a September 5th deadline to apply for the grant, I'd say the money is for after 1 October. The city will request a decision from the judge before the Sept. 5 deadline to apply for the Byrne grant, Siskel said. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:51:58 PM EDT
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Not surprised. The SCOTUS previously said that the feds can't withhold funds because of a reason unrelated to the purpose of the funds. QED |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:54:00 PM EDT
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I'll never understand how a district judge can rule over the entire country. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:56:04 PM EDT
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Why do I keep reading and hearing that Obama failed to fill hundreds of positions in the court rooms, yet the few that he appointed keep shitting on President Trump. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:59:27 PM EDT
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This will be straightened out in October when they hit the reset button.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:06:29 PM EDT
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Too bad judges on our side didn't do this shit when obummer was in office. Do you guys REALLY not remember this stuff? |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:10:22 PM EDT
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They did. Several times. Do you guys REALLY not remember this stuff? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Too bad judges on our side didn't do this shit when obummer was in office. Do you guys REALLY not remember this stuff? |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:14:58 PM EDT
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Federal judge blocks Trump from denying funds to sanctuary cities Federal judge blocks Trump from denying funds to sanctuary cities © Getty A federal judge has blocked the Trump administration's rules requiring so-called sanctuary cities to help enforce federal immigration laws in order to receive funding. U.S. District Judge Harry Leinenweber issued a nationwide preliminary injunction against the Department of Justice (DOJ) on Friday after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced new rules governing DOJ law enforcement grants, The Chicago Tribune reports. The city of Chicago sued the Trump administration last month over the DOJ’s threat to withhold those grants from "sanctuary cities," which are cities that refuse to help federal authorities enforce immigration laws. Leinenweber said in his 41-page ruling that Chicago had shown a "likelihood of success" in its arguments that Sessions exceeded his authority in July when he announced that the DOJ would withhold public safety grants to sanctuary cities. The judge, who was appointed by former President Ronald Reagan, explained that he halted the DOJ policy nationwide because there is "no reason to think that the legal issues present in this case are restricted to Chicago or that the statutory authority given to the Attorney General would differ in another jurisdiction." http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/350937-federal-judge-blocks-trump-from-defunding-sanctuary-cities he ruled it, now let him enforce it |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:16:27 PM EDT
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I don't really remember obummer being denied very much. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:16:30 PM EDT
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People don't think the Federal judiciary be like it is. But it do. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:34:52 PM EDT
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Too bad judges on our side didn't do this shit when obummer was in office. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:36:36 PM EDT
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People don't think the Federal judiciary be like it is. But it do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll never understand how a district judge can rule over the entire country. 
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Posted: 9/15/2017 9:57:58 PM EDT
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Current federal funding cannot be stopped because they already have established agreements in place governing the issuance of these funds which currently do not include immigration enforcement. However, those rules are about to expire come September 30, 2017 which is the end of this federal fiscal year. Which means that the government can write up new rules (these are the strings attached to funding and are not Executive Orders) for the issuance and acceptance by states for federal funds that will be given out to the states for next fiscal year starting 10-01-2017. Those new rules can include requiring that the states honor immigration detainers, allow their law enforcement officers, at their discretion, the freedom to contact ICE and report that they have illegal and/or out of status aliens in their custody on their criminal charges, and agree to not interfere or block ICE officers from arresting illegal/out of status aliens on state property. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 10:10:34 PM EDT
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Judicial insurgency
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Posted: 9/15/2017 10:18:37 PM EDT
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Jesus Christ Reagan appointed him, it says so right up there, ha ha, you guys |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 10:19:29 PM EDT
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I'll never understand how a district judge can rule over the entire country. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 11:30:48 PM EDT
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Good. |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 1:54:39 AM EDT
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How the hell can a judge control what the DOJ does with its own grant money? 
BTW, the Court's decision is located here: Linky |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 2:00:04 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ Reagan appointed him, it says so right up there, ha ha, you guys  Reading is for faggots |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 2:21:33 AM EDT
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Withhold the funds anyways.
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Posted: 9/16/2017 2:28:54 AM EDT
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Withhold the funds anyways. |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 2:34:53 AM EDT
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more tax payer money..... DOJ can't change rules??? If congress gave the president authority over the grant proceedings then rules can be changed, guess its going to a higher court
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Posted: 9/16/2017 2:42:32 AM EDT
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Next murder by an illegal, arrest the judge for being an accessory and aiding and abetting a violent criminal. And don't obey his orders anyways. From the article: "Emanuel has been declaring himself a protector of immigrants in the U.S. illegally since before Trump was sworn in, appearing with U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez within days of Trump's victory over Hillary Clinton to promise he would stand up for Chicago's "values and principles as it relates to inclusion." |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 1:33:54 PM EDT
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So basically let's break the law, allow them to continue to break the law, and reward them as well? Yet we wonder what's wrong?
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